Totally agree with Signe. Its not the money, its the principal. And yes, Farlan was and is fully aware of the status of their game and still employ the shady machinations in order to run their company. Sure, plenty of games have promised great things and failed to deliver, the difference here is Farlan shadowed it with flat out lies and underhanded manipulations.
Releasing SOG as a gift, stating only a bit of the features available in DNL will be implemented yet knowingly release it in a bare bones unworkable server process without any of what they promised along with lame excuse after lame excuse
-- and STILL expecting you to swallow that there is a huge, completely different, working, playable, quest-filled, economy provided, balanced combat, focused skill trees, customizable toon availability and user-friendly interface hidden and just waiting just for you! is completely out of line (my gawd! my english teacher would rip that run-on sentence apart!) .
Stop the SOG. Prepare and implement a closed Beta 1 process right now. Follow that when the login and permabugs are fixed with a few more testers in. When major stability is gained both in login and movement, go for closed Beta 2 allowing for even more testers. Fix what the new testers immediately see and move through the process of additions you want to see, with the major issues first. Take as long as needed to fix them. Implement Beta 3, allowing even more testers. Add in your fluff. Fix it. Take as long as needed. As you will lose testers - add only those that are needed. When you have a reasonably 90% game going, allow for Beta 4 , add more testers. Fix what they immediately see. Add some more fluff. When all that is done, allow for invite only stress testing. (get in on a special deal with some of the major game sites - allowing for easier downloads and a pool of willing testers to choose from) Fix it. Allow for open stress. Fix it. Allow for open beta. fix it. Then and only then release DNL and show all of us, me included, how ye of little faith always loses out.
Originally posted by Smackjabber I was thinking about picking this up but geez you guys are blasting it hard. I'm staying away...
You could still try to get a freebie account and see for yourself..if you are into masochism and like pain and frustration alot -- gotta like it alot though. If anything, it will prove this boards majority perception of the game is right on. Its total crap and dont be a sucker.
heh who knows? After all these months and all the negative you can find anywhere all over the web about this game and he was still contemplating it, he just may be all over it! Different strokes for different folks.......
"I for one will support this game to bitter end or success whatever it will be, but Iam not a blind fanboi who will defend the game and post around how great it is etc"
Hey, remember the other day when we were talking about the definition of the word irony?
Joined 2004 - I can't believe I've been a MMORPG.com member for 20 years! Get off my lawn!
IK, that post only proves you have the mentality of a 10 yr old.
RF Online is now an official GAME!!!! Once you purchased it, and used it, you cant expect a refund.
You CAN expect a refund if the game was unplayable in industry standards (it is not unplayabe in industry standards) , if the game is unavailable to play (which it is not) or was never delivered (you downloaded the official release game).
It is NOT A BETA. It was NOT a preorder. It was an official game release. Statements to this effect are all over the site and when you download.
There is a difference and no, its not a scam. You need to go back and learn some comprehension.
And yes Farlan IS a scam! A pre-order of a game NOT YET RELEASED WITH NO REFUND BEFORE RELEASE is indeed a SCAM.
And the fact that RF ONline has been out for 2 years in Korea, have you even researched this game? If you did you would have known that a new version was made specifically for US/English. Styles of play are different. Agreed there is not much to the game and thus will suffer a huge loss in the US/English version distribution, but the point is, it in NOT what the korean version is -- and in fact, RF ONLINE is a HUGE SUCCESS in Korea.
Do your dang research, Comprehend what the heck it is you are reading, ask your teacher to help you if you are not sure. THEN post an inane inconsequential post and show the world you still have far to go.
Yes, its an offical game release, even has a box. ASking for a refund after you purchased it is ridiculous. It is available to play.You can login. Your characters stay ingame. Content is there. NPCs are there. No promises of "this will be implemented at some later date" when fully released. That would give the option of a refund credence.
Farlan gives no option. Hasnt even released yet and is tied to a beta game that is not a beta, is a beta, not a beta, promises withdrawn and payment upfront with no refund before release.
Two totally different worlds insofar as scams. RFO isnt (altho extremely disappointing - take a cue Farlan). Farlan is a scam.
Hey sorry to say that but RF Online have bugs, does not have any content, except if you think that 1 "quest" per lvl -> kill 20 mobs is content and I could go on ...
And where I like I can return ANY product I want if Iam not satisifed with it ( 8 days from purchase )
And yes even after 2 years game have A LOT of exploits and some bugs that I noticed in first play hour.
AND AGAIN FOR MORONS HOW CAN YOU ASK FOR DNL PREORDER REFOUND IF THE GAME IS NOT OUT YET.
( and everyone that wanted got refound even the new pioneers with no refound policy )
I agree most of customers where "tricked" to buy pre order for SoG spot, however you did not pay for it was a free bonus with it.
And till release is postponed or DnL sux big time at it FARLAN did not scam anyone ...
I haven't been latched on to this game too long, so I haven't grown as bitter as a bunch of you who have endured the last few years of broken promisses and the release of a game that isn't supposed to be anything like the real game. I've managed to get into SoG and do enjoy it for nothing more than just being in another MMO after quite a while of not playing. I do admit that the game is very rudimentary and the bugs are overwhelming for a prototype that is supposed to be going into full scale production in less than 2 months, but if the Devs are being honest with their statement that this is not a BETA version of Dark and Light I can understand them neglecting SoG for the real thing.
That being said, I can't really say where things stand with this game. There are so many contradicitons that it looks like one of George W's "state of the Unions". I'm still holding out on DnL. If they can actually pull out a game that lives up to most of the hype and promises, it will definitely be worth playing. If they just try to scrub SoG and offer it with some flashier graphics and call it a completed game, I'll be keeping far far away from anything that Farlan produces after it.
DnL hopefuls are the same people who refused to give up on Irth Online.
Look, people if it sucks in beta, it will suck at release, and its gonna suck for the 3 months of life it has. Stop wasting your hard earned money on bottles of lies and bags of bull dung.
Originally posted by brostyn DnL hopefuls are the same people who refused to give up on Irth Online. Look, people if it sucks in beta, it will suck at release, and its gonna suck for the 3 months of life it has. Stop wasting your hard earned money on bottles of lies and bags of bull dung.
Oh you meanie you are going to hurt their feelings. They think that Farlan has just been fooling everyone trying to weed out the unfaithful. In April they are going to unleash the real DnL they have been hiding on the MMO world and it will be just awesome, and then when the umpteen gazillion people who desert WoW and CoH and EQII to come over to play DnL, NP3 will take the faithful fanbois and girlz and make them regular demi gods with awesome ingame powers and wealth and they shall pwnz joo fools!!!!
Originally posted by Jackdog Oh you meanie you are going to hurt their feelings. They think that Farlan has just been fooling everyone trying to weed out the unfaithful. In April they are going to unleash the real DnL they have been hiding on the MMO world and it will be just awesome, and then when the umpteen gazillion people who desert WoW and CoH and EQII to come over to play DnL, NP3 will take the faithful fanbois and girlz and make them regular demi gods with awesome ingame powers and wealth and they shall pwnz joo fools!!!!
Exactly Jackdog!... well said thats exactly how I see it... can't wait to be a Demi-God
Beware of the Demi-God blacksac, if I see you I will pick you up and drop you in the ocean to watch you swim back only to be picked up and thrown back in again... Dem-Gods can be cruel... it's in our nature to toy with little mortal lives like yours... hahaha *choke* haha *cough* hahaha
I don't even post much there or here that matter on the game anymore. Don't really give a crap about it much. But I still go over occasionally to read their forums, sometimes it is good for a laugh like today I think I saw funniest thing I ever saw posted on any forum today. Oner of the Devs commented on how he thought the graphics resembled Oblivions, of course the next post was a fanbois agreeing with him. Kinda like comparing the Mona Lisa (Oblivion) to a crucifix in a glass of urine(DnL) if you ask me. I guess their Devs still think anyone really gives a damn/trusts them still.
same. just poppin in to see the latest posts. Truly, after taking a break from the game and the forums over there and here, the intelligence ratio is probably the lowest I have seen anywhere. Its almost like reading a junior high journal.
And yes , the consensus is, for those of us still kinda sorta close to not caring anymore who still try to play the game, it would appear that an incomplete game with promises of features to be implemented within months of the release is what they are planning to do. With those promises however at least I will have my option of a refund until then. Waiting six months to get what you paid for is a good patient wait. Heck, US credit card companies allow up to 2 years, so Im not worried about getting my money back.
I am worried however that the promises of features to come months after official release really wont hold any water. From the looks of things now, that seed is planted and beginning to blossom well within the minds of the few still playing. Again, these features wont have the testing needed as they are obviously still developing as we speak. And as far as their history of promises broken, it would seem releasing a full game is not going to happen either. The fanbois however are going along with it and are happy. They will also probably say some ridiculous things such as "it was never promised" as a full game....etc,. etc. The same games going on all along.
So much for promises. And no, we wont have to admit we were wrong. Releasing a game that is not a completed game , or releasing a game with the features still to be implemented is not a release. Its a beta or trial demo perhaps? But not a full release. Contrary to their previous promises. So, no "admissions to error in judgement" is even to be considered.
Originally posted by Jackdog I don't even post much there or here that matter on the game anymore. Don't really give a crap about it much. But I still go over occasionally to read their forums, sometimes it is good for a laugh like today I think I saw funniest thing I ever saw posted on any forum today. Oner of the Devs commented on how he thought the graphics resembled Oblivions, of course the next post was a fanbois agreeing with him. Kinda like comparing the Mona Lisa (Oblivion) to a crucifix in a glass of urine(DnL) if you ask me. I guess their Devs still think anyone really gives a damn/trusts them still. One more month.
I will admit that i was wrong. I had high hopes for the game but now i've given up on it.
I pre-ordered but got fed up with the game late december never logged back in.
I browsed game forums till late january to leave for a while hoping some progress would be made.
I went back to look last week only to find out that no progress has been made.
Based on the fact that we're one month away from release i wrote a complaint and cancellation form to Click & Buy.
A quote taken from the click & buy site.
Cancellation
If it should happen that a provider's service does not live up to its claims, please contact us at service@eu.clickandbuy.com [/quote]
It's game standard to run a beta to test all release content. Their still doing internal testing and there's not a hint at closed or open beta. Having a normal timepath there's no way to get a final version off the release content. With that i mean atleast 95 % off the release content tested and the version being 80-90% bugfree.
Thus them not living up to their claims i'm issuing a refund.
I am just appalled how little has been done over the months SoG ran.
Originally posted by IKShadow Hey sorry to say that but RF Online have bugs, does not have any content, except if you think that 1 "quest" per lvl -> kill 20 mobs is content and I could go on ... it is content and if you had bothered to find out any more you would see that the grind isnt a "reach level 35 in 3 hours" type of grinding. But then again, you seem to think that Farlan releasing the same way is okay, so why you complaining? As far as the bugs, dude, I was in the beta and I played the full release, the "bugs" as you state are merely that. small bugs in the mechanics of the game, NOT THE SERVER, NOR THE TOONS THEMSELVES LIKE IN DNL. And where I like I can return ANY product I want if Iam not satisifed with it ( 8 days from purchase ) So what are you moaning about? Farlan tries to stop ppl from doing so. And doesnt this go along with , if you buy it without researching it, its your problem? You cant return the game. You CAN get a refund but I would like to see how you justify it to the company. The game is in industry standard playable condition. The servers are available 99.99% -- you got nothing but a crappy game you bought. Since you seem to think DNL is fine and dandy, dont see why you are complaining about another game with much more playability anyway. And yes even after 2 years game have A LOT of exploits and some bugs that I noticed in first play hour. You dont get it do you? RFO is a completely NEW version of the korean RF. It has not been 2 years since its release. Its a brand new game in western release. The eastern korean game is and has been doing quite well. Well enough for them to afford to bring a western version here. The exploits hmmm, didnt see that many in the beta testing nor were there many reported. The bugs are small and can be fixed on the fly or in their scheduled maintainence. Dude, you havent a clue what you are talking about. Slamming that game yet defending SOG is two opposite sides of two different coins dude. Your arguement is ridiculous.
AND AGAIN FOR MORONS HOW CAN YOU ASK FOR DNL PREORDER REFOUND IF THE GAME IS NOT OUT YET.
( and everyone that wanted got refound even the new pioneers with no refound policy ) Those MORONS as you call them did indeed get their refunds. How can you ask? By trying to play a "prelude" that cant be played, no content, server instability, lies from the devs, bugged toons, bugged pets, and nothing to do. By releasing a prelude in such a crappy condition it has indeed given an insight to what DNL will be like. So instead of wasting their money, they are getting it back. Besides, Farlan is the only one that tried to limit the refund on a preorder AND still tries btw (they send you a letter saying you cant have one but all you do is call C&B and your credit card company and presto! refund issued) and besides that fact, FARLAN ASKS FOR THE PAYMENT UPFRONT , AT THE TIME OF PURCHASE--NOT AT SHIPMENT DATE. so yes, it is quite sensible to ask for a refund before it comes out cuz they already took your money and the game they are showing as a prelude is joke of the community.
I agree most of customers where "tricked" to buy pre order for SoG spot, however you did not pay for it was a free bonus with it. By allowing that you got a freebie with another purchase then placing the no refund on the freebie portion is in fact making the purchase that of SOG instead of DNL. Ask C&B , ask any merchant, ask anybody!
And till release is postponed or DnL sux big time at it FARLAN did not scam anyone ... you complain about a crappy game RFO -- obviously bought before you checked out any websites and opinions -- yet you say SOG doesnt suck? DNL will suck. WOuld love to see your tail between your legs and giving a complaint like the one you are giving RFO when you see that DNL is much much worse than even the crappy ripoff RFO.
Sounds like this game has failed pretty bad in beta.. Is the Griffen really worth pre-ordering this game? Or another tactic to get money, pay the bills, and let the player base down after launch? The forums on DnL have not been all that positive either.. It sounds like they need another 6 months to work out the bugs. But once again another game prematurely released..
And yes , the consensus is, for those of us still kinda sorta close to not caring anymore who still try to play the game, it would appear that an incomplete game with promises of features to be implemented within months of the release is what they are planning to do. With those promises however at least I will have my option of a refund until then. Waiting six months to get what you paid for is a good patient wait. Heck, US credit card companies allow up to 2 years, so Im not worried about getting my money back. I am worried however that the promises of features to come months after official release really wont hold any water. From the looks of things now, that seed is planted and beginning to blossom well within the minds of the few still playing. Again, these features wont have the testing needed as they are obviously still developing as we speak. And as far as their history of promises broken, it would seem releasing a full game is not going to happen either. The fanbois however are going along with it and are happy. They will also probably say some ridiculous things such as "it was never promised" as a full game....etc,. etc. The same games going on all along. So much for promises. And no, we wont have to admit we were wrong. Releasing a game that is not a completed game , or releasing a game with the features still to be implemented is not a release. Its a beta or trial demo perhaps? But not a full release. Contrary to their previous promises. So, no "admissions to error in judgement" is even to be considered.
It would now appear as though they are using the :build your own world: as the excuse for the unfinished game release. I was under the impression that SOG was to have built the city/crafting/politics/etc before release. It would appear now however that our ancestors didnt get much done and it will be the same in DNL. Handy excuse for nothing in the game. Dont see how they can call it "freedom" when you have to rely on the incompetent GMs in order to make something happen. This is really turning into an awful idea.
And yes , the consensus is, for those of us still kinda sorta close to not caring anymore who still try to play the game, it would appear that an incomplete game with promises of features to be implemented within months of the release is what they are planning to do. With those promises however at least I will have my option of a refund until then. Waiting six months to get what you paid for is a good patient wait. Heck, US credit card companies allow up to 2 years, so Im not worried about getting my money back. I am worried however that the promises of features to come months after official release really wont hold any water. From the looks of things now, that seed is planted and beginning to blossom well within the minds of the few still playing. Again, these features wont have the testing needed as they are obviously still developing as we speak. And as far as their history of promises broken, it would seem releasing a full game is not going to happen either. The fanbois however are going along with it and are happy. They will also probably say some ridiculous things such as "it was never promised" as a full game....etc,. etc. The same games going on all along. So much for promises. And no, we wont have to admit we were wrong. Releasing a game that is not a completed game , or releasing a game with the features still to be implemented is not a release. Its a beta or trial demo perhaps? But not a full release. Contrary to their previous promises. So, no "admissions to error in judgement" is even to be considered.
It would now appear as though they are using the :build your own world: as the excuse for the unfinished game release. I was under the impression that SOG was to have built the city/crafting/politics/etc before release. It would appear now however that our ancestors didnt get much done and it will be the same in DNL. Handy excuse for nothing in the game. Dont see how they can call it "freedom" when you have to rely on the incompetent GMs in order to make something happen. This is really turning into an awful idea.
It seems that excuses have becoming more and more common with that company.. I see a bad track record developing. Almost reminds me of a young SOE company in the development... I think I'm too scared to give them my money at the present time. I'll wait until I hear some more positive reviews by players.. players only. I don't trust these talking heads like SOE.
Well.....hmmmm...I too am just now checking back here on this game as I heard in a forum in another MMORPG (EQ2) that this game was due to release April 1st? I was hopeful--as there are some very BAD unacceptable changes going on in the game I am currently playing (EQ2) that are imminent (as in Sony is destroying the crafting system in EQ2 in the next Live Update or two) and making EQ2 into an "EQ clone" by turning it slowly into a game ONLY for High end raiding guilds with lots of high end dungeon content and not a whole lot other than that. I myself enjoy crafting in MMORPG's and was looking forward to crafting in D & L but from what I am reading here it appears that crafting is not exactly in the game yet? Or am I misinterpreting this? I was hoping this might be something my husband and I could "move on" to when EQ2 goes belly up (as it is about to do for many of the casual and solo players and ALL of the crafters) but apparently I need to look elsewhere? Thanks anyhow for the information...last thing I need is to hitch my wagon to another game that will end up going down the tubes like Horizons did....
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Totally agree with Signe. Its not the money, its the principal. And yes, Farlan was and is fully aware of the status of their game and still employ the shady machinations in order to run their company. Sure, plenty of games have promised great things and failed to deliver, the difference here is Farlan shadowed it with flat out lies and underhanded manipulations.
Releasing SOG as a gift, stating only a bit of the features available in DNL will be implemented yet knowingly release it in a bare bones unworkable server process without any of what they promised along with lame excuse after lame excuse
-- and STILL expecting you to swallow that there is a huge, completely different, working, playable, quest-filled, economy provided, balanced combat, focused skill trees, customizable toon availability and user-friendly interface hidden and just waiting just for you! is completely out of line (my gawd! my english teacher would rip that run-on sentence apart!) .
Stop the SOG. Prepare and implement a closed Beta 1 process right now. Follow that when the login and permabugs are fixed with a few more testers in. When major stability is gained both in login and movement, go for closed Beta 2 allowing for even more testers. Fix what the new testers immediately see and move through the process of additions you want to see, with the major issues first. Take as long as needed to fix them. Implement Beta 3, allowing even more testers. Add in your fluff. Fix it. Take as long as needed. As you will lose testers - add only those that are needed. When you have a reasonably 90% game going, allow for Beta 4 , add more testers. Fix what they immediately see. Add some more fluff. When all that is done, allow for invite only stress testing. (get in on a special deal with some of the major game sites - allowing for easier downloads and a pool of willing testers to choose from) Fix it. Allow for open stress. Fix it. Allow for open beta. fix it. Then and only then release DNL and show all of us, me included, how ye of little faith always loses out.
pipe dream? For Farlan - I believe so.
The real question would be.
In a few weeks when the supposed release date of April 27 comes.
And the weeks following it.
Will the fanbois admit that they were wrong?
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hehe... I'm sure after seeing that he'll be all over this game like a fly on sh... you know.
"I for one will support this game to bitter end or success whatever it will be, but Iam not a blind fanboi who will defend the game and post around how great it is etc"
Hey, remember the other day when we were talking about the definition of the word irony?
Joined 2004 - I can't believe I've been a MMORPG.com member for 20 years! Get off my lawn!
hmm so you thought Farlan is scaming people.
Check out what i received when I wanted to refound RF Online after 2h when I bought it.
Thank you for submitting your recent request to Codemasters Customer Services concerning RF Online.
Unfortunately due to the nature of the digital downloads we are unable to refund a purchase once the order has been placed.
If you need further assistance, please reply to this email and INCLUDE THIS LINE IN YOUR REPLY:-
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Or include the entire text of this email.
Kind regards
Paul
Codemasters Customer Services
I could care less for 50$ however I expected more from the game that has been out over 2 years ( Korea ...)
Futilez[Do You Have What It Takes ?]
IK, that post only proves you have the mentality of a 10 yr old.
RF Online is now an official GAME!!!! Once you purchased it, and used it, you cant expect a refund.
You CAN expect a refund if the game was unplayable in industry standards (it is not unplayabe in industry standards) , if the game is unavailable to play (which it is not) or was never delivered (you downloaded the official release game).
It is NOT A BETA. It was NOT a preorder. It was an official game release. Statements to this effect are all over the site and when you download.
There is a difference and no, its not a scam. You need to go back and learn some comprehension.
And yes Farlan IS a scam! A pre-order of a game NOT YET RELEASED WITH NO REFUND BEFORE RELEASE is indeed a SCAM.
And the fact that RF ONline has been out for 2 years in Korea, have you even researched this game? If you did you would have known that a new version was made specifically for US/English. Styles of play are different. Agreed there is not much to the game and thus will suffer a huge loss in the US/English version distribution, but the point is, it in NOT what the korean version is -- and in fact, RF ONLINE is a HUGE SUCCESS in Korea.
Do your dang research, Comprehend what the heck it is you are reading, ask your teacher to help you if you are not sure. THEN post an inane inconsequential post and show the world you still have far to go.
LOL Tell it like it is LilBo! LOL
Yes, its an offical game release, even has a box. ASking for a refund after you purchased it is ridiculous. It is available to play.You can login. Your characters stay ingame. Content is there. NPCs are there. No promises of "this will be implemented at some later date" when fully released. That would give the option of a refund credence.
Farlan gives no option. Hasnt even released yet and is tied to a beta game that is not a beta, is a beta, not a beta, promises withdrawn and payment upfront with no refund before release.
Two totally different worlds insofar as scams. RFO isnt (altho extremely disappointing - take a cue Farlan). Farlan is a scam.
Hey sorry to say that but RF Online have bugs, does not have any content, except if you think that 1 "quest" per lvl -> kill 20 mobs is content and I could go on ...
And where I like I can return ANY product I want if Iam not satisifed with it ( 8 days from purchase )
And yes even after 2 years game have A LOT of exploits and some bugs that I noticed in first play hour.
AND AGAIN FOR MORONS HOW CAN YOU ASK FOR DNL PREORDER REFOUND IF THE GAME IS NOT OUT YET.
( and everyone that wanted got refound even the new pioneers with no refound policy )
I agree most of customers where "tricked" to buy pre order for SoG spot, however you did not pay for it was a free bonus with it.
And till release is postponed or DnL sux big time at it FARLAN did not scam anyone ...
Futilez[Do You Have What It Takes ?]
I haven't been latched on to this game too long, so I haven't grown as bitter as a bunch of you who have endured the last few years of broken promisses and the release of a game that isn't supposed to be anything like the real game. I've managed to get into SoG and do enjoy it for nothing more than just being in another MMO after quite a while of not playing. I do admit that the game is very rudimentary and the bugs are overwhelming for a prototype that is supposed to be going into full scale production in less than 2 months, but if the Devs are being honest with their statement that this is not a BETA version of Dark and Light I can understand them neglecting SoG for the real thing.
That being said, I can't really say where things stand with this game. There are so many contradicitons that it looks like one of George W's "state of the Unions". I'm still holding out on DnL. If they can actually pull out a game that lives up to most of the hype and promises, it will definitely be worth playing. If they just try to scrub SoG and offer it with some flashier graphics and call it a completed game, I'll be keeping far far away from anything that Farlan produces after it.
Ok, if it makes you feel better, IKShadow... SoG sucks. DnL doesn't suck yet but will suck later.
DnL hopefuls are the same people who refused to give up on Irth Online.
Look, people if it sucks in beta, it will suck at release, and its gonna suck for the 3 months of life it has. Stop wasting your hard earned money on bottles of lies and bags of bull dung.
I miss DAoC
Exactly Jackdog!... well said thats exactly how I see it... can't wait to be a Demi-God
Beware of the Demi-God blacksac, if I see you I will pick you up and drop you in the ocean to watch you swim back only to be picked up and thrown back in again... Dem-Gods can be cruel... it's in our nature to toy with little mortal lives like yours... hahaha *choke* haha *cough* hahaha
I don't even post much there or here that matter on the game anymore. Don't really give a crap about it much. But I still go over occasionally to read their forums, sometimes it is good for a laugh like today I think I saw funniest thing I ever saw posted on any forum today. Oner of the Devs commented on how he thought the graphics resembled Oblivions, of course the next post was a fanbois agreeing with him. Kinda like comparing the Mona Lisa (Oblivion) to a crucifix in a glass of urine(DnL) if you ask me. I guess their Devs still think anyone really gives a damn/trusts them still.
One more month.
I miss DAoC
same. just poppin in to see the latest posts. Truly, after taking a break from the game and the forums over there and here, the intelligence ratio is probably the lowest I have seen anywhere. Its almost like reading a junior high journal.
And yes , the consensus is, for those of us still kinda sorta close to not caring anymore who still try to play the game, it would appear that an incomplete game with promises of features to be implemented within months of the release is what they are planning to do. With those promises however at least I will have my option of a refund until then. Waiting six months to get what you paid for is a good patient wait. Heck, US credit card companies allow up to 2 years, so Im not worried about getting my money back.
I am worried however that the promises of features to come months after official release really wont hold any water. From the looks of things now, that seed is planted and beginning to blossom well within the minds of the few still playing. Again, these features wont have the testing needed as they are obviously still developing as we speak. And as far as their history of promises broken, it would seem releasing a full game is not going to happen either. The fanbois however are going along with it and are happy. They will also probably say some ridiculous things such as "it was never promised" as a full game....etc,. etc. The same games going on all along.
So much for promises. And no, we wont have to admit we were wrong. Releasing a game that is not a completed game , or releasing a game with the features still to be implemented is not a release. Its a beta or trial demo perhaps? But not a full release. Contrary to their previous promises. So, no "admissions to error in judgement" is even to be considered.
I will admit that i was wrong. I had high hopes for the game but now i've given up on it.
I pre-ordered but got fed up with the game late december never logged back in.
I browsed game forums till late january to leave for a while hoping some progress would be made.
I went back to look last week only to find out that no progress has been made.
Based on the fact that we're one month away from release i wrote a complaint and cancellation form to Click & Buy.
A quote taken from the click & buy site.
Cancellation
If it should happen that a provider's service does not live up to its claims, please contact us at service@eu.clickandbuy.com [/quote]
It's game standard to run a beta to test all release content. Their still doing internal testing and there's not a hint at closed or open beta. Having a normal timepath there's no way to get a final version off the release content. With that i mean atleast 95 % off the release content tested and the version being 80-90% bugfree.
Thus them not living up to their claims i'm issuing a refund.
I am just appalled how little has been done over the months SoG ran.
I did expect setbacks but not on this scale.
It seems that excuses have becoming more and more common with that company.. I see a bad track record developing. Almost reminds me of a young SOE company in the development... I think I'm too scared to give them my money at the present time. I'll wait until I hear some more positive reviews by players.. players only. I don't trust these talking heads like SOE.