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RDM/???
destro3979
Member Posts: 470
im a RDM and need a subjob
i cant decide between
BLM
WAR
SMN
other???
whats best
Comments
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It might be dependent on your race abit but.. You'll get the best bang for your buck from /BLM for the INT and MP. However other options are /WHM that allows you to be a better primary healer with Poisona and Curaga but less INT and MP and /SMN for the large mana pool, Auto-Refresh and decent INT/MND score. Later on (post level 50) /BRD is occasionally seen for Ballad.
You really don't want to use a combat job for RDM as its not that effective in a party. (Solo, fine tho /NIN is very good solo.) I think people forget where as you have some combat abilities you are a Red MAGE, not a Red Warrior, your job is supporting the other mages, and debufing, at first.. later its all that AND refreshing the party AND dispel.. and it can get quite hectic.
Most people use /BLM, its a safe bet, works well and is easy to level. If thats just not going to work for you do /WHM, the last really good option is /SMN but ill warn you about /SMN.. it is about the same effectively as /BLM.. and it takes far more time investment to then BLM does it might be ok but your looking at many many hours of time investment for something thats "about as good, or occasionally not as good" The only people who do this are crazy people or people who already have used SMN as there primary job.
Me as rdm/mnk lol
Er, not WAR.
For parties, either BLM or WHM; WHM is better until you hit the upper 30s, then BLM starts to look better, but either is good. SMN is pretty pointless because all it does is get you MPs, and you're gonna have Refresh.
NIN can be interesting, but is pretty much a choice for soloing.
As with *any* class, THF is useful for farming.
Nothing else has much of a point as a RDM subclass.
Chris Mattern
what about
RDM/DRK
or
RDM/PLD(palidin)
Nope. DRK brings the Absorb spells, but nothing else, and it's not enough, PLD doesn't have anything you can't get with WHM, and meanwhile you're giving up lots of MP. Melee abilities don't matter because RDM doesn't melee past 40 in parties, and if you *do* melee, you can't beat subbing NIN and having Utsusemi and the Dual Wield + En- spells combo.
Chris Mattern
so is
RDM/NIN(solo)
RDM/BLM(party)
RDM/WHM(solo/party)
RDM/SMN(solo)
the best???
Nope. DRK brings the Absorb spells, but nothing else, and it's not enough, PLD doesn't have anything you can't get with WHM, and meanwhile you're giving up lots of MP. Melee abilities don't matter because RDM doesn't melee past 40 in parties, and if you *do* melee, you can't beat subbing NIN and having Utsusemi and the Dual Wield + En- spells combo.
Chris Mattern
Dark sub brings the stun spell at high lvl and ANY rdm that plans to HNM will need drk to atleast 37.
The best depends on the situation at hand. But generally only WHM and BLM are needed for most PT setups. NIN and RNG are good in duo or solo though. Yes a RDM can sidewinder and hit stuff if you skilled up bow. Sidewinder to guillotine makes transfixtion (i think, been a while) and the RDM can still MB, great for duoing o hat eyes with a needy drk.
rdm/smn
makes your mana pool huge as hell which means you can double as a whm or blm depending on your party setup
A whm without the -na spells (status removers, poisona etc), no curaga, divine seal etc. no thanks.
If you are going to be main healer, do us all a favor and sub /whm.
I duno bout the blm part...you get tons of mp thats true but low lvl spells that will nuke for low numbers.
to op: In xp partys I prefer rdm/whm. you get some good utility spells and high mnd for better heals and to land those enfeebles (paralyze, slow etc). I dont think a rdm should nuke much...only for Mana Bursts (of course, this depends on the pt setup).
Anyway, for soloing etc rdm/nin is really strong (at least at the end lvls), but for xp parties I say stick with whm (or blm if the pt got a couple healers and are in need of a little more boom).
If you take BLM, you're not taking it for the nukes--after all, you get the nukes anyways; except for -ga spells, a BLM subjob doesn't give you any attack spells that your main job doesn't give you first. Your BLM sub at half the RDM's level isn't going to raise your Elemental Skill either, since the RDM job will have a higher cap for the skill than the half-level BLM job. Taking BLM doesn't really do a damn thing for your nukes. BLM is for the MPs (including the very useful Conserve MP ability), the elemental enfeebles (choke, rasp, drown, burn, frost, and shock), the -ga enfeebles (especially Sleepga) and the utility spells--warp, escape, tractor. Shock is the first of these to show up, at BLM 16, so you don't get any of this until reach level 32. In fact, a BLM subjob doesn't get you *any* additional spells until 24/12, when you score Drain. WHM is a much better subjob early on, giving you nice -na and -ra spells at even low levels (you get Barstonra at 10/5, the very useful Poisona at 12/6, and the absolutely necessary Protectra I at 14/7). But by the time you get to your forties, BLM starts to look pretty tasty. And while additional MND does help you land Paralyze and Slow, it's additional INT that helps you land Sleep. IMHO, a RDM should cultivate both.
Chris Mattern