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BR6 can you compete?
BuZZKilgore
Member Posts: 525
in Planetside
I see the free version is limited to BR6 can you even compete at that level or is it too low/limited?
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as far as power-ability, no. You can cert anything like tanks, artillery and planes, but certing all soldier weapons at once cant be done with 6 cert points (Heavy weapons + Heavy armor + sniper + ...), but since 1 tank can absorb fire from 30 players with rifles, or 10 players with AT weapons your power-ability isnt hindered whatsoever.
Its pretty ass-backwards, dont ask me why it ended up that way. I have a feeling its not going to be fodder-side, but more mechanized-side.
The short answer is: Yes.
The advantage of having a higher BR is being more versatile, not specifically more 'powerful'. If you create multiple characters you can focus each one on a specific role - like sniping, support, aircraft, tank driving, etc...
At BR 6 you get 11 cert points to play with... trust me, with that you may not be 'an army of one' (medical, heavy assault, piloting, combat engineering, etc etc etc)... but you can be very effective at your chosen role.
Resok
Even at level 1 you can kill ANYONE. Thats why I love this game, its fast paced, lots of action and you dont have to GRIND or spend months to actually become competetive. You create a new char and you are as competetive as anyone else. Its all about YOUR skills, not your character skills. Higher rank only means you have a wider range of things to use, whether that be weapons, vehicles or support like repairing or medical certs.
Im also playing on a free account, so im only BR3, but I hoped into my trusty fury and rained chaos to enemy MAXes from behind the tree... im one sneaky fury-man hehe... and Once I was on top of the hill, while our troops were sieging a terran base on cyssor, and there was this enemy BFR hidden near the repair silo, so I kept shooting it from the top of the hill and killed it easily.. he didnt know what hit him hehe... sweet memories...
I am the type of player where I like to do everything and anything from time to time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor - pre-WW2 genocide.
I'm BR6 right now, I'm an advanced hacker and can drive tanks and repair vehicles. I drive/gun vehicles to the enemy base and follow my squadmates to the control panels, which I then hack to take over the base. The only infantry weapon I possess is a pistol just to make sure I'm not -totally- defenseless. It's very easy for me to get a 2:1 kill ratio and I've capped over 10 bases already. And the thing is, I've been getting plenty of kills at BR2/3.
If you do all the tutorial missions you can and drive every single vehicle at least once in training, you can get up to BR4 even before you see real combat.
While it is true you CAN kill anyone in this game at any lvl... Whats going to happen when his 3 buddys come rolling up behind him and you cant heal/ repair use your second imp to surge or use darklight to kill that cloaker that is watching you...(thats just a few examples)...
At that level yout options are just to limited in what you can use.. So while you can kill ANYONE at that level you will not do it enough to truly compete with some of the higher lvl ememys you will face.. Try owning a grp(or even a few) of TRx or Enforcers at BR6(thats even if they still play).. GL with that.
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You see, every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with their surrounding environment, but you humans do not. You spread to an area, and you multiply, and you multiply, until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet.-Mr.Smith
Tbh, I would have wished they limited players to BR6 from the beginning of the game. I quitted PS a long time ago but I enjoyed the first months when, well a majority of players were between BR6 and BR8.
The thing is that you have to specialize yourself if you want to compete. That way, each soldier is different. When I left the game, every trooper was wearing a Reinforced armor and was carrying an heavy assault gun and an AV.
With this free trial, I'm facing people who chose to only use special assault or be only sniper, or only AV. It's far more interesting.... and it's free
Short answer: no.
For one, you stand no change against mechs that the other people can get and you are often attacked by 3-5 every few minutes since they don't bother fighting other mechs and just look for easy fodder, anyone in reserves.
Your weapons and vehical choice is quite limited since you can't get past br 6 and you often spend more time learning different skills then actually playing where higher br don't need to do it.
It has very limited training "noob" missions and a very high learning curve once you get in the real word since for some reason they didn't let you try real combat with other reserves instead they just send you out and expect you to fight people with 15+ br.
Think of it if you play WoW and all you can do is play in Battle grounds but you are limited to level 10 while everyone else is around 20-25.
Servers are still quite laggy, even if they are down to just 3 and that shows you why they opened the free reserves since changes are reserves outnumber paying players by 5 to one at this point.
The actual infantry combat is sluggish and a pain to hit anyone even 10 feet in front of you since most of the weapons don't shoot directly in a line.
Looks like something I am going to have to unistall since it is quite bad even for a free game for a time.
The same amount of health, stamina and armor you are as competetive in combat as everyone else.
The difference is that higher Battle Ranks are more versatile.
A BR 6 Reaver Pilot is as competetive as a BR 25 Reaver pilot. No difference except skill.
A BR 6 Tank Driver / Gunner is as competetive as a BR 25 Tank Driver / Gunner.
The onyl difference is that you are not so versatile in combat styles infantry like. So a BR 25 will have everything equipped to stand up to infantry, vehicles, maxes, repair himself, heal himself plus drive a buggy or fly.
At BR 6 you have to chose what you want to compete against. So you will be able to stand up to any infantry OR stand up to MAX (so maybe not being able to repair and heal yourself and organize your own transport).
So at lower Battle Ranks you need a team which covers the skills you are not able to cover.
So the only real difference is infantry side. Vehicle Drivers / Gunners, MAX Units, Supporters and Snipers are not really affected by BR. BR doesn't say you can do better, you just can do more.
True it can make a difference but I believe the original question was can you compete? The answear was yes you could compete on an equal footing in these areas, and that extra BR merely brings heightened diversification. The deiversification can up your kill total as you will be more able to choose the correct platform for you current situation; however at BR6 you can be good at what you do specialty wise.
I have one character BR6 he uses maxes.
Today's kill total <mainly aa but did do some anti-personel when tower was getting overrun> 15-10
Yesterdays 22-12
I dare say that is succesfully competeing. Havn't had much luck in other categories yet, but the versatility of the uni-max skill allows me to compete quite well using maxes at only BR6. Yeah more implants would be nice, but they are not critical especially if you concentrate in areas that allow you to kill the enemy before they realize you are there.
I have 2 more on the same server one drives tanks the other flys planes. Defintly would be more convient to have that all in one character, but not $13 a month convient.
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Today's kill total <mainly aa but did do some anti-personel when tower was getting overrun> 15-10
Yesterdays 22-12
I dare say that is succesfully competeing. Havn't had much luck in other categories yet, but the versatility of the uni-max skill allows me to compete quite well using maxes at only BR6. Yeah more implants would be nice, but they are not critical especially if you concentrate in areas that allow you to kill the enemy before they realize you are there.
I have 2 more on the same server one drives tanks the other flys planes.
Im sorry to say but those kill/death stats are horrible and just hammers home what many of us are saying about being able to compete at such a low BR... If I didnt have more then 22 kills in 30 mins of playing I was having a horrible session..And yet thats your kill total for the whole day??? And you say your competing?.. Sorry but your not competing, at all.
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You see, every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with their surrounding environment, but you humans do not. You spread to an area, and you multiply, and you multiply, until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet.-Mr.Smith
Many of you are saying? At this point I show the opnions as 6-2 in favor of yes you can compete. Never thought of 2 as many, but hey I guess we all have our own interpretation of the word.
First off those were on average 1-2 hour session not entire days. Secondly that is better than 1 to 1 with inferior equipment versus enemies with superior fire power(every single aircraft can kill me faster than I can kill them except maybe mosquito that is closer to even). Anti-aricraft work takes patience in many cases you have to wait for the oppnent to come to you. My kill total has gone as high as 36 in an hour its all a matter of how many aircraft happen by. After all at BR6 you are in a max. Maxes are slow not very effective at chasing aircraft you have to wait for one to happen buy. Remember the original purpose of the thread was to ask if you could compete at BR 6. Not be totally uber. Judging by a previous comment in this thread you are hung up on yourself; however by most people's standards the answear is yes through strategy, cunning, patience, and tactics.
In addition I think you fail to put into perspective the standards of operation for various forms of equipment. If you tell me that you can shoot down 30 aircraft in half an hour I will say you are either griefing the spawn or very good at finding locations that attract hordes of aircraft. What I believe is you may be applying a standard for something else versus the equipment available to what people can get with a level of BR 6. Such as a BRT for instance I have watched those drivers mow down infantry guys left and right.
Thus you obviously have a ridiculously high standard to what you consider to be competing. You must be one of those uber 1337 dudes. In previous posts on this forum I have heard vets state that if you are doing better than 1-1 you are doing pretty good. I apologize if me being happy about killing at a 3-2 ratio with crappy equipment just isn't up to your standard. We should all bow down and worship your greatness.
After all that is what you are after with comments like these aren't ya?
In closing if you were smart you would encourage these guys to keep playing so you would have more targets to demonstrate your overwhelming superiority too instead of run them off with your inflated ego trips.
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We should all bow down and worship your greatness.
After all that is what you are after with comments like these aren't ya?
In closing if you were smart you would encourage these guys to keep playing so you would have more targets to demonstrate your overwhelming superiority too instead of run them off with your inflated ego trips.
Yes yes you should bow down to me..Or I might have to log back in one day and WTFPWN! you like I used to do nearly everyone(on second thought scre that im all up in WOW right now killing things).. And I stand by my statements that your stats sucked.. And 1 to 1 is not very good, which "Vets" say that it is?...
Also I dont play this game anymore im just telling the guy like it is and the truth, there is a reason why they original referred to this trial as the "Fodder program" cuz thats all you will be to the higher BR characters.. Fodder... Then need to bring back the old Trial of and can this Everquest trial crap were your capped at such a low level, that or raise the cap to BR12.... BR6 can be gained in a hour of game play if your get in a good grp or are any good at FPS games.
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You see, every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with their surrounding environment, but you humans do not. You spread to an area, and you multiply, and you multiply, until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet.-Mr.Smith
Again your first sentence shows why you are truly here.
Not even playing anymore lol. Please by all means spend $13 and come "WTFPWN" me as you put it. I will be laughing the entire time knowing you wasted money on such a stupid endevour. Again you have a 1337 dude mentality of what constitutes competing.
The op asked if you could compete not as you put it "WTFPWN" everything in sight. Competing for most people (not those that try to overcome their shortfalls in life through video games) means achieving a high enough kill ratio that you feel like you are contributing as oppsed to just stopping bullets.
As far as where I got the opnion of other vets I give you this quote from Azekiel coming from another thread "if your K/D is better than 1:1, you're doing, by definition, better than average."
The fact that you can do that at BR 6 without even grouping means it is possible to compete.
I honestly do not think we are gonna reach an agreement on this matter as we are two different types of gamers. Here let me supply another quote for you.
"Planetside seems to be a hybrid of FPS and MMO - not necessarily a bad thing.. except the two genres attract different kinds of gamers.. MMO are "usually" more soically orientated "more touch feely" or as the FPS players would call em "girly"; where as the FPS players are usually more testosterone driven prefering to measure their skills against someone else whilst screaming abuse down a TS mic - or as MMO players would have it "people who think with their dicks"."
There are those that will incessantly brag about how "uber" they are, and those that find more value in enjoying the game, and if we get an unsolicited positive comment from someone else it makes our day. Our self esteem does not rely on us constantly proclaiming how wonderful we are. Perhaps you need to take a step back and re-evaluate why you play games? Enjoyment or perhaps some other reason?
Sorry for the dip into psychology I am just trying to show you how different styles can have different perceptions of what "competing" is.
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Well, as for competing, I say yes.
Simply cause at BR6 i can get a lobestar and heal all them BR25's in BFR's back to health making a world of trouble for the other empires.
I am usefull aswell as needed. therefore, i am not fodder.
I have also heard from many higher ranks that having so many people in the game gives it more depth, heck i've even heard vets say "holy shiet, with all these players i have to actaully think about tactics", it might sound degrading, but it's true, this "trial" program is actaully helping the game out alot. in more ways then you'de think.
The other day i was just walking around, and someone came up to me and asked if i was in an outfit, i said no, and he was happy to let me in his, he also tought me alot of things about the game, tips, tricks, even after i told him i was in the reserved program, he didnt care, he knew i would be helpfull.
So... answer is yes, i can compete.