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I would like to get an explanation from Sanya

oliverc4oliverc4 Member Posts: 199
I don't play
hib, because its easy mode in rvr. I would like you to explain to me
and all the other people who play alb and mid why it is that every time
you give those two realms something that seems a little powerful, its
insta nerfed into oblivion. While at the same time it seems the Hibs
have an obvious edge when it comes to RVR. Please explain to me why
mushrooms and bainshees can shoot through walls and through the
socalled water plain. Please explain to me what is fair and balanced
about mushrooms living when their caster dies.



All these things have added to the imbalance Mythic has put into
the game. I guess its true that you're trying to screw this game up and
weigh it to one realm so we have to buy warhammer when that comes out.


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  • SyriSyri Member UncommonPosts: 230
    so, i guess hibs don't really have only 1 relic left (which they can't use) and half their frontier overun on the lance/pell/kay/ise cluster... i must be imagining all the alb and mid keeps in hib's frontier. those relic keeps must really be stuffed with alb and mid relics....


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  • MaxziusMaxzius Member UncommonPosts: 248
    This isn't vn and we like it that way.

    Seriously.


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  • RJCoxRJCox Member Posts: 2,686
    Well, I'm not Sanya, but I hope my response will suffice...

    As the person who is tasked with reading the Feedback Forms and tallying them, passing the info up the chain, etc, I can honestly say that the "grass is greener" syndrome runs pretty rampant in DAoC. For every feedback form I get that sounds like yours, complaining that Hib is overpowered; I get 2 others, one complaining about Mid, the other complaining about Albs.

    Different servers have different population breakdowns, etc. Different realms on different servers work better together and have better teamwork, etc. I've played on servers where we were easily outnumbered but due to good leadership and teamwork we weren't just a welcome mat for the other 2 realms.

    I really don't know what answer you're looking for in particular here, if your realm is on the losing end on your server nothing I (or even Sanya) could say is going to change the tides of that war...


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  • ElnatorElnator Member Posts: 6,077


    Originally posted by oliverc4
    I don't play hib, because its easy mode in rvr. I would like you to explain to me and all the other people who play alb and mid why it is that every time you give those two realms something that seems a little powerful, its insta nerfed into oblivion. While at the same time it seems the Hibs have an obvious edge when it comes to RVR. Please explain to me why mushrooms and bainshees can shoot through walls and through the socalled water plain. Please explain to me what is fair and balanced about mushrooms living when their caster dies.

    All these things have added to the imbalance Mythic has put into the game. I guess its true that you're trying to screw this game up and weigh it to one realm so we have to buy warhammer when that comes out.


    Newbie to DAOC alert! 

    Dude I've played every realm in the game.  They're pretty well balanced.  Some individual CLASSES have issues but overall the realms themselves are well balanced.  On some servers hib is better organized, on others it's alb.... on others it's mid.

    But overall the game is pretty well balanced.  Some servers have population imbalances but that has been true since day one.  But overall the game is balanced.  All it really takes to turn the tide is a well organized RVR team.  Go out in a chaotic mob and you will die to forces 1/3 your size (actually I've seen 16 take out up to 50 w/o much issue when they worked well together).

    Coordination, Teamwork and Tactics DO matter in DAOC.  No matter what some other fools may try to tell you.  Go out and ZERG all you want.  The minute that Zerg runs into a well organized force it'll die.  Will YOUR realm have the well organized force or will the enemy?  It really is up to you to decide.  So find a leader in your realm, or become one.  But quit whining about 1 realm or the other being over powered.  Those of us who have played (honestly played) all 3 will be happy to inform you that you're wrong ;)


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  • SlickinfinitSlickinfinit Member UncommonPosts: 1,094

    I am very much new to Daoc but I cant realy see how anyone says Hibs as a realm are overpwered?I play on Gareth server Midgard realm and if us Mids have a good group of organized team players we usualy stomp over foes in the BG's I have visited. Likewise I have been killed many times by a well organized enemy bolth Hibs and Albs. The few classes I dont like to tango with in rvr such as Vamp,Theurg,Reaver,Animist,Sorc, and bainshee's can be killed and  I bet other realms say the same thing of Mids BD's, Thanes and Shadowblades. I had to learn what each of my characters abilities were and what my weaknes was and then attempt to do well in rvr which will still be kinda rough because most players have a 4-6 year head start but I wont complain I will just have to keep learning and putting effort forth.

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  • MaxziusMaxzius Member UncommonPosts: 248


    Originally posted by Slickinfinit

    ... The few classes I dont like to tango with in rvr such as Vamp,Theurg,Reaver,Animist,Sorc, and bainshee's can be killed and  I bet other realms say the same thing of Thanes...


    This made me smile  ;)

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  • ElnatorElnator Member Posts: 6,077


    Originally posted by Maxzius

    Originally posted by Slickinfinit

    ... The few classes I dont like to tango with in rvr such as Vamp,Theurg,Reaver,Animist,Sorc, and bainshee's can be killed and  I bet other realms say the same thing of Thanes...

    This made me smile  ;)


    He must be new as in new since the recent love Thanes got :)  We're a lot more effective in RVR now ;)

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  • EchaniEchani Member Posts: 72
    Love to thanes? That made me smile too :-)  So that's why my Thane was respecced when I came back last week, hmm, I'll have to search for the love we got before I go and gimp spec him, I'll start a new thread asking about the Love Thanes got.   WOOT.

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  • CillasiCillasi Member UncommonPosts: 335

    I'm a long-time, currently inactive, DAOC player.  I've never been much involved in RvR, but I sure can tell you some things about it.

    Every once in a while, one realm on one server will find a "hero."  This is a person who can rally people together, inspire them, organize them, and lead them to victory.  This "commander-in-chief" and his "generals" will lead his realm to dominate the server.  This realm will come to be viewed as overpowered and to have an unfair advantage. 

    As much as I truly, truly hate all forms of pvp/rvr, even I have heard the charismatic voice of some of these leaders and have rushed to defend my realm, all the time thinking "what the hell am I doing...I hate this crap."  I can't explain the excitement and pride at seeing what seems to be everyone in the realm rushing to the frontiers from all parts of the land and feeling part of it. 

    Eventually, people become complacent and feel unthreatened and invincible.  Players stop manning the keeps and scouting the frontiers.  The hundreds of calls-to-arms that go out whenever the enemy invades our territory diminish and even if the call comes, players say "let someone else go" and it all starts to fall apart.

    or...

    Eventually, a wannabe hero or two will decide they can do things better, and maybe they can, however, what they usually accomplish is the destruction of the dynamic team that made things works o well to begin with and it all begins to fall apart.   The original hero usually disappears - to another server and/or another realm - and maybe he/she will effect the same "miracles" again, or maybe not.

    I have watched the "wealth" of realms rise and fall, with one dominating the rvr scene for a few months and then another suddenly rising and wiping out all competition.  I've seen two realms spontaneously cooperate against a seemingly all-powerful third - the enemy of my enemy is my friend - type of thing. 

    No realm is over-powered; rather, opposing realms are often disorganized and uninspired.  I've heard Albs and Mids complain that Hibs are overpowered with their mezz spells, but I've also seen Albs and Mids totally decimate Hibs with a well-organized attack plan and player support.  And, when Albs or Mids are in control, you can bet the Hibs are complaining about how unprotected their casters are and how deficient their armors are, etc.  Yet, with proper organization and direction, those same, weak, unprotected Hibs can decimate an army twice their size. 

    A realm does not sit on top of all six relics for months because the other realms are actively trying to get them back.  They get to keep them because the other realms are apathetic and uninterested or lack direction and leadership or are just not willing to go fight for what they want.  So many times I have heard players whine and moan for somebody else to go take some keeps so they can hunt in Darkness Falls, or even if they are willing to go fight for a little bit, as soon as DF opens, they run back to "play" instead of trying to fortify their position or increase their control. 

    I could go on, but this is long enough.  I think you get my drift

  • Zerocool032Zerocool032 Member Posts: 729


    Originally posted by oliverc4
    I don't play
    hib, because its easy mode in rvr. I would like you to explain to me
    and all the other people who play alb and mid why it is that every time
    you give those two realms something that seems a little powerful, its
    insta nerfed into oblivion. While at the same time it seems the Hibs
    have an obvious edge when it comes to RVR. Please explain to me why
    mushrooms and bainshees can shoot through walls and through the
    socalled water plain. Please explain to me what is fair and balanced
    about mushrooms living when their caster dies.



    All these things have added to the imbalance Mythic has put into
    the game. I guess its true that you're trying to screw this game up and
    weigh it to one realm so we have to buy warhammer when that comes out.




    Jethith Chrisht

    Urg why do people complain about hibernia.  They really arent overpowered. OMFG A 24 VAMPIIR KILLED ME IN THIDRANKI OMFG NERF.  Vampiirs suck at lvl 50, they are butter through my chainsaw.  Banshees, they really dont do as much damage as you think.  Its always the PBAOE that does the real damage.  Everyone says, "Oh noes here comes da banshee run!111."  When its the PBAOE'ers that are killing them.

    I never had problems with hibernia in RvR, they were the easy realm,  midguard was always hard for me.  Please, before you come trolling on the forums, ask yourself why you are getting owned.

    P. S.  Animists piss me off to, but they make great stealther bait. (nerf warlocks :D)

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  • MaxziusMaxzius Member UncommonPosts: 248


    Originally posted by Zerocool032

    Originally posted by oliverc4
    I don't play
    hib, because its easy mode in rvr. I would like you to explain to me
    and all the other people who play alb and mid why it is that every time
    you give those two realms something that seems a little powerful, its
    insta nerfed into oblivion. While at the same time it seems the Hibs
    have an obvious edge when it comes to RVR. Please explain to me why
    mushrooms and bainshees can shoot through walls and through the
    socalled water plain. Please explain to me what is fair and balanced
    about mushrooms living when their caster dies.



    All these things have added to the imbalance Mythic has put into
    the game. I guess its true that you're trying to screw this game up and
    weigh it to one realm so we have to buy warhammer when that comes out.



    Jethith Chrisht

    Urg why do people complain about hibernia.  They really arent overpowered. OMFG A 24 VAMPIIR KILLED ME IN THIDRANKI OMFG NERF.  Vampiirs suck at lvl 50, they are butter through my chainsaw.  Banshees, they really dont do as much damage as you think.  Its always the PBAOE that does the real damage.  Everyone says, "Oh noes here comes da banshee run!111."  When its the PBAOE'ers that are killing them.

    I never had problems with hibernia in RvR, they were the easy realm,  midguard was always hard for me.  Please, before you come trolling on the forums, ask yourself why you are getting owned.

    P. S.  Animists piss me off to, but they make great stealther bait. (nerf warlocks :D)



    a) Warlocks didn't need to be nerfed again
    b) Hibernia IS overpowered at seiges b/c LOS issues allow it to stay so
    c) Bainshee do a shitload of damage
    d) Anyone stupid enough to stand in PBAOE range deserves to die
    e) Animists are the stupidest class ever introduced into a PvP game
    f) Vamps suck

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