Originally posted by hercules As things stands with RV i would not recommend the game to anyone .Maybe it gets better but its certainly has loads of problems and issues and its offically live now so no more beta excuses. Yes i pre ordered RV and yes i am bitterly dissapointed but i want to give the game a chance.
Sorry for ya bro... I hope, for your sake, that it gets better.
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Originally posted by Elnator Originally posted by hercules As things stands with RV i would not recommend the game to anyone .Maybe it gets better but its certainly has loads of problems and issues and its offically live now so no more beta excuses. Yes i pre ordered RV and yes i am bitterly dissapointed but i want to give the game a chance.
Sorry for ya bro... I hope, for your sake, that it gets better.
Ah well you got to try to know.I mean i did not try DnL and though i trust many of those reviewing the game , part of me still remembers all the features that were posted about this game and wants to see it.
Of course i will not spent $50 on DnL(no way!) but part of me will always wonder.
At least here i seen it for myself and it was half the price of DnL too
There are a handful of people here that have posted for a long time and I always read what they have to say. I have come to trust them and I appreciate the comments and their opinion of mmorpgs.
Still, I am so curious and I realize that everyone tastes and preferences are different, so I usually wind up trying out most mmorpgs. I did try out DnL, and believe me, it would be a mistake to purchase that mmo. Listen to the majority regarding that game. I can say that because it isn't the game itself that is such a drawback, it is the developers and management behind the game that is it's biggest cause for failure.
As for Roma Victor, I have read up on the mmorpg and I am interested, although I do listen to some of the things people have to say, and so I am hesitant. Are the problems with the game things like bugs, incompleteness, and things that just don't make sense or don't work? Or does it go deeper, as is the case with games like DnL or SWG?
I'd like to get some more feedback before I give the game a try, but if you know me, I will likely try it out anyway
My stance is simple: I'll try any game in an open beta or a free trial. I will NOT pay for a game until I've had a chance to try it. Not pre-order or any other means. The only way they get me to log in is via open-beta or free trial.
Does that mean I miss out on some of these games that require a pre-order to get into the beta? Sure... it also saves me money and frustration in the long run though
But, that said, if RV offers a free trial or had it offered an open beta... I'd have tried it.
Currently Playing: Dungeons and Dragons Online. Sig image Pending Still in: A couple Betas
That is a good strategy, one I will try to imitate. But I sometimes buy mmorpgs on an impulse, just to see what they are like, even when I am deeply into another mmorpg. I just never know what will be a great game for me until I try it, but I have wasted lots of money on some mmorpgs that I bought without knowing much about them first.
Coming here for opinions about mmorpgs is good, but everyone has different ideas of what makes a mmorpg good for them, so trying them out for yourself is best. I hope that more mmorpgs offer free trials and open beta in the future, because it cna be a good thing for both the players and the people making the game.
I never would have gotten Auto Assault if I didnt try the beta, but then again, I would have purchased Dungeons and Dragons Online before I tried it, but not after.
Originally posted by Elnator My stance is simple: I'll try any game in an open beta or a free trial. I will NOT pay for a game until I've had a chance to try it. Not pre-order or any other means. The only way they get me to log in is via open-beta or free trial.
Does that mean I miss out on some of these games that require a pre-order to get into the beta? Sure... it also saves me money and frustration in the long run though
But, that said, if RV offers a free trial or had it offered an open beta... I'd have tried it.
well i had good experience in the past with pre orders but most i did beta test like wow,EQ2,DAoC.
But yeah i think RV has killed my faith in pre ordering hehe
Originally posted by hercules Originally posted by Elnator My stance is simple: I'll try any game in an open beta or a free trial. I will NOT pay for a game until I've had a chance to try it. Not pre-order or any other means. The only way they get me to log in is via open-beta or free trial.
Does that mean I miss out on some of these games that require a pre-order to get into the beta? Sure... it also saves me money and frustration in the long run though
But, that said, if RV offers a free trial or had it offered an open beta... I'd have tried it.
well i had good experience in the past with pre orders but most i did beta test like wow,EQ2,DAoC.
But yeah i think RV has killed my faith in pre ordering hehe
Key difference: With WoW, EQ2 and DAOC you played them BEFORE pre-ordering, correct? I have no real issues with that logic. If you tried them, and liked them, by all means, pre-order. If you have not yet tried them it's foolish to give them money
And, just a point of fact: Every MMORPG has eventually had a free trial, even WoW. GuildWars being the lone exception but it's not REALLY an MMORPG...
Currently Playing: Dungeons and Dragons Online. Sig image Pending Still in: A couple Betas
Originally posted by Elnator Originally posted by hercules Originally posted by Elnator My stance is simple: I'll try any game in an open beta or a free trial. I will NOT pay for a game until I've had a chance to try it. Not pre-order or any other means. The only way they get me to log in is via open-beta or free trial.
Does that mean I miss out on some of these games that require a pre-order to get into the beta? Sure... it also saves me money and frustration in the long run though
But, that said, if RV offers a free trial or had it offered an open beta... I'd have tried it.
well i had good experience in the past with pre orders but most i did beta test like wow,EQ2,DAoC.
But yeah i think RV has killed my faith in pre ordering hehe
Key difference: With WoW, EQ2 and DAOC you played them BEFORE pre-ordering, correct? I have no real issues with that logic. If you tried them, and liked them, by all means, pre-order. If you have not yet tried them it's foolish to give them money
And, just a point of fact: Every MMORPG has eventually had a free trial, even WoW. GuildWars being the lone exception but it's not REALLY an MMORPG...
Guild Wars had a free trial as well, altough its over now. and it was only for 10 hours.
Originally posted by Gameloading Originally posted by Elnator Originally posted by hercules Originally posted by Elnator My stance is simple: I'll try any game in an open beta or a free trial. I will NOT pay for a game until I've had a chance to try it. Not pre-order or any other means. The only way they get me to log in is via open-beta or free trial.
Does that mean I miss out on some of these games that require a pre-order to get into the beta? Sure... it also saves me money and frustration in the long run though
But, that said, if RV offers a free trial or had it offered an open beta... I'd have tried it.
well i had good experience in the past with pre orders but most i did beta test like wow,EQ2,DAoC.
But yeah i think RV has killed my faith in pre ordering hehe
Key difference: With WoW, EQ2 and DAOC you played them BEFORE pre-ordering, correct? I have no real issues with that logic. If you tried them, and liked them, by all means, pre-order. If you have not yet tried them it's foolish to give them money
And, just a point of fact: Every MMORPG has eventually had a free trial, even WoW. GuildWars being the lone exception but it's not REALLY an MMORPG...
Guild Wars had a free trial as well, altough its over now. and it was only for 10 hours.
Only 'trial' I know of that Guild Wars had was one that if you bought factions you could give a friend a key to try it for 10hrs.... that the one you're thinking of? I think it was 10 hours 'played' time though... which could go by either very fast or very slow, depending on your playstyle 10 hours /played for me is usually about 5-6 days.
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Having played RV as well I'd have to say that its just not ready yet. It has alot of potential but the execution is terrible. I don't think this is due to lazy devs, they are probably the most dedicated dev team you will ever see. The fact is they just don't have the resources to have the game ready so soon.
Originally posted by Drgonzothx Having played RV as well I'd have to say that its just not ready yet. It has alot of potential but the execution is terrible. I don't think this is due to lazy devs, they are probably the most dedicated dev team you will ever see. The fact is they just don't have the resources to have the game ready so soon.
My only response to this is: "If it's not ready, don't release it".
I have never understood this logic of "We'll release it even though it's unfinished.... With the money we milk from the unsuspecting customers we'll have enough to finish it.... maybe".
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Originally posted by Jhughesy Originally posted by hercules Its a game with loads of "on paper" ideas but extremely poorly executed .
Which is pretty much the norm these days.
I hear you can buy in-game things with real money in RV. Is this true? If so, then forget a true player economy.
Well some diehard fans of the game keep saying you will not need to buy money to get a measureable amount of fun even as a casual player.
They tend to point to beta but forget thats beta!It in no way can test an economy based on real money purchase.
Now i seems to recall same been said about every mmorpg which uses this system of no monthly fee but real cash for ingame purchase.
In all the previous ones this was total untrue you needed money to gewt some degree of fun.Ofc its early days and this can neither be proved or disproved so we will see.
But you need to ask yourself.RV will not sell 1m+ copies even if it was fun and well made.Considering its current state it will most likely sale most of whats its going to sell in the inital month and i doubt it will even come close to the 20k mark.So if as the diehards say casual who manage themselves well will never have to buy money then the company will run into difficulties very fast.once that inital money is gone they still have to pay for servers and salaries to keep the game going.
People forget that it pays the devs to encourage people to buy cash.If people do not buy ,then rest assured any dev who relies on this for income will adjust the game to make it so.This is ofc assuming the diehard fans were right in the first place which i doubt.
The orginal poster has the right intentions, but is way off in trying to sell Roma Victor.
I played UO from 97 until the special moves got implemented...I played like 3 times after lol. Some of my best memories ever from a game came from UO. I read the "What makes UO the best ever" thread and it brought back a lot of memories. Anyway, I never got into any other MMO until I tried SWG. That was great, it was the first game to capture my interest siince early UO and the first game since UO that I actually got addicted to. I started playing SWG in 03 I believe and suffered through the CU and eventually quit when the NGE hit. Again, I was searching for the next MMO and nothing could capture my interest...then I read about RV and pre-ordered and gamma tested and am currently addicted.
Now, all three MMO's I have loved had some key things in common, though they aren't even close to identical. The things I loved about UO are comparable to RV. Things like player driven content, housing, free pvp (even more free than UO if you are Barb), the crafting system to name a few (perhaps to name them all...I'm tired right now )
The point is, if you liked UO...its worth your time to at least check into RV. That's as far as the OP should have gone. Don't buy it if your not impressed after you have given it an honest look. It's a niche game. It will never compete with the big boys most likely. But if I had never heard of RV, or if I hadn't ever looked into it, I know I would be thankful to someone that brought it to my intention (what am I saying, I AM thankful someone brought it to my intention and I'm just passing that on to whoever may be interested). I guess I'm a niche gamer, it's ok that I have a different opinion than most gamers.
Does RV have great graphics? Hell no. But I never played UO for the graphics. I don't see why that is the main point of most people saying RV is crap in this thread. The graphics? Come on. I admit, when I first heard of RV I checked it out and saw the screen shots and was dissapointed and forgot about it. Then I heard about it again so I went to check more in depth and eventually pre-ordered it. I must say, the game play and the promise this game holds makes me completely forget about it's bad graphics. I love the game...the visual part of any game tends to grow on you if you enjoy actually playing the game. The opposite doesn't hold true to me. I've played a lot of games that were amazing looking...that lasted about 1 day...then the gameplay flaws stuck out like a sore thumb
Does RV have a lot of developmental issues concerning servers like lag, tracking etc? Certainly, after suffering though a bad mem leak for a few days I was able to play fine for a couple weeks but currently I haven't been able to log on for 12 and a half hours. But, most mmo's suffer these types of problems in the first month. You know, if you have played many MMO's, this sort of thing will be fixed in due time.
In short, I love RV. That doesn't mean everyone will. But if you loved UO or classic SWG or whatever other sandbox style game that has been out there, RV is worth a look. I wont' try to argue that it is fun or a great game...that is all subjective and pointless to debate. You may hate it, that's fine. But this is just to all those people searching for something that can capture their interest again. RV has done that for me, maybe it could for you as well.
Generally, I don't recommend anyone trying RV right now unless they are passionate about playing a Virtual World MMOG and want every advantage possible at the expense of playing on an overloaded server. Since release the server has been unable to handle the players logging in and playing which has resulted in periods of server lag and difficulty in logging in that did not exist during test.
I doubt there are many around here that remember what the release of UO was like or how long it took to get the game running smoothly and fairly balanced. Years is the answer.
However, experienced UO veterans may know that the value of virtual real estate, skills and items is determined in much the same way as the actual, by location and limited supply - that was until EA developers took over UO and destroyed the value of their own game; in the case of UO.
RV is definately not run by anyone that comes close in thinking to the EA appointed UO developers that came after The Second Age.
Originally posted by sempiternal Generally, I don't recommend anyone trying RV right now unless they are passionate about playing a Virtual World MMOG and want every advantage possible at the expense of playing on an overloaded server. Since release the server has been unable to handle the players logging in and playing which has resulted in periods of server lag and difficulty in logging in that did not exist during test. I doubt there are many around here that remember what the release of UO was like or how long it took to get the game running smoothly and fairly balanced. Years is the answer. However, experienced UO veterans may know that the value of virtual real estate, skills and items is determined in much the same way as the actual, by location and limited supply - that was until EA developers took over UO and destroyed the value of their own game; in the case of UO. RV is definately not run by anyone that comes close in thinking to the EA appointed UO developers that came after The Second Age.
This plus about 90% of the stuff is not implemented into the game yet.
Don't be terrorized! You're more likely to die of a car accident, drowning, fire, or murder! More people die every year from prescription drugs than terrorism LOL!
Originally posted by Elnator Again:If there isn't a free trial.. I'm not trying.
I think their servers would split at the seams with a free trial El.
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
Originally posted by sempiternal Generally, I don't recommend anyone trying RV right now unless they are passionate about playing a Virtual World MMOG and want every advantage possible at the expense of playing on an overloaded server
Heck knows what the server capacity is lol.It lagged bad even with pre orders at off peak time.Seems anything can overload this server
im an ex uo player(europa for 4+ years or whatever) and i recomend RV for those who mainly love community and crafting, there isnt too much fighting to do atm.
Originally posted by Marku im an ex uo player(europa for 4+ years or whatever) and i recomend RV for those who mainly love community and crafting, there isnt too much fighting to do atm.
You actually recommend the crafting in this game?
Same crafting that involves make same pile x100000 to build the most primitive hut for days?
Come on!Apart from the community been very nice the game is not even fit to be in alpha .
Lag,boring crafting,poor maunual,horrible tutorial,missing skills,terrible interface interface,graphics so poor they actually cut and paste faces,a flawed engine,horrible movements,bugs and bugs,poor terrian,horrible combat,lack of wildlife etc etc.
I can't recall last time i gave a game the stamp of "stay far way from this junk" but RV certainly deserves the title.
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Ah well you got to try to know.I mean i did not try DnL and though i trust many of those reviewing the game , part of me still remembers all the features that were posted about this game and wants to see it.
Of course i will not spent $50 on DnL(no way!) but part of me will always wonder.
At least here i seen it for myself and it was half the price of DnL too
There are a handful of people here that have posted for a long time and I always read what they have to say. I have come to trust them and I appreciate the comments and their opinion of mmorpgs.
Still, I am so curious and I realize that everyone tastes and preferences are different, so I usually wind up trying out most mmorpgs. I did try out DnL, and believe me, it would be a mistake to purchase that mmo. Listen to the majority regarding that game. I can say that because it isn't the game itself that is such a drawback, it is the developers and management behind the game that is it's biggest cause for failure.
As for Roma Victor, I have read up on the mmorpg and I am interested, although I do listen to some of the things people have to say, and so I am hesitant. Are the problems with the game things like bugs, incompleteness, and things that just don't make sense or don't work? Or does it go deeper, as is the case with games like DnL or SWG?
I'd like to get some more feedback before I give the game a try, but if you know me, I will likely try it out anyway
Does that mean I miss out on some of these games that require a pre-order to get into the beta? Sure... it also saves me money and frustration in the long run though
But, that said, if RV offers a free trial or had it offered an open beta... I'd have tried it.
Currently Playing: Dungeons and Dragons Online.
Sig image Pending
Still in: A couple Betas
That is a good strategy, one I will try to imitate. But I sometimes buy mmorpgs on an impulse, just to see what they are like, even when I am deeply into another mmorpg. I just never know what will be a great game for me until I try it, but I have wasted lots of money on some mmorpgs that I bought without knowing much about them first.
Coming here for opinions about mmorpgs is good, but everyone has different ideas of what makes a mmorpg good for them, so trying them out for yourself is best. I hope that more mmorpgs offer free trials and open beta in the future, because it cna be a good thing for both the players and the people making the game.
I never would have gotten Auto Assault if I didnt try the beta, but then again, I would have purchased Dungeons and Dragons Online before I tried it, but not after.
well i had good experience in the past with pre orders but most i did beta test like wow,EQ2,DAoC.
But yeah i think RV has killed my faith in pre ordering hehe
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well i had good experience in the past with pre orders but most i did beta test like wow,EQ2,DAoC.
But yeah i think RV has killed my faith in pre ordering hehe
Key difference: With WoW, EQ2 and DAOC you played them BEFORE pre-ordering, correct?
I have no real issues with that logic. If you tried them, and liked them, by all means, pre-order. If you have not yet tried them it's foolish to give them money 
And, just a point of fact: Every MMORPG has eventually had a free trial, even WoW. GuildWars being the lone exception but it's not REALLY an MMORPG...
Currently Playing: Dungeons and Dragons Online.
Sig image Pending
Still in: A couple Betas
well i had good experience in the past with pre orders but most i did beta test like wow,EQ2,DAoC.
But yeah i think RV has killed my faith in pre ordering hehe
Key difference: With WoW, EQ2 and DAOC you played them BEFORE pre-ordering, correct?
I have no real issues with that logic. If you tried them, and liked them, by all means, pre-order. If you have not yet tried them it's foolish to give them money 
And, just a point of fact: Every MMORPG has eventually had a free trial, even WoW. GuildWars being the lone exception but it's not REALLY an MMORPG...
Guild Wars had a free trial as well, altough its over now. and it was only for 10 hours.
well i had good experience in the past with pre orders but most i did beta test like wow,EQ2,DAoC.
But yeah i think RV has killed my faith in pre ordering hehe
Key difference: With WoW, EQ2 and DAOC you played them BEFORE pre-ordering, correct?
I have no real issues with that logic. If you tried them, and liked them, by all means, pre-order. If you have not yet tried them it's foolish to give them money 
And, just a point of fact: Every MMORPG has eventually had a free trial, even WoW. GuildWars being the lone exception but it's not REALLY an MMORPG...
Guild Wars had a free trial as well, altough its over now. and it was only for 10 hours.
Only 'trial' I know of that Guild Wars had was one that if you bought factions you could give a friend a key to try it for 10hrs.... that the one you're thinking of? I think it was 10 hours 'played' time though... which could go by either very fast or very slow, depending on your playstyle
Currently Playing: Dungeons and Dragons Online.
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Still in: A couple Betas
"If it's not ready, don't release it".
I have never understood this logic of "We'll release it even though it's unfinished.... With the money we milk from the unsuspecting customers we'll have enough to finish it.... maybe".
Currently Playing: Dungeons and Dragons Online.
Sig image Pending
Still in: A couple Betas
I now reached the conclusion that RV cannot even stand in the shadows of UO.Not even gonna comment on comparing it to many games.
Its a game with loads of "on paper" ideas but extremely poorly executed .
Which is pretty much the norm these days.
I hear you can buy in-game things with real money in RV. Is this true? If so, then forget a true player economy.
Which is pretty much the norm these days.
I hear you can buy in-game things with real money in RV. Is this true? If so, then forget a true player economy.
Well some diehard fans of the game keep saying you will not need to buy money to get a measureable amount of fun even as a casual player.
They tend to point to beta but forget thats beta!It in no way can test an economy based on real money purchase.
Now i seems to recall same been said about every mmorpg which uses this system of no monthly fee but real cash for ingame purchase.
In all the previous ones this was total untrue you needed money to gewt some degree of fun.Ofc its early days and this can neither be proved or disproved so we will see.
But you need to ask yourself.RV will not sell 1m+ copies even if it was fun and well made.Considering its current state it will most likely sale most of whats its going to sell in the inital month and i doubt it will even come close to the 20k mark.So if as the diehards say casual who manage themselves well will never have to buy money then the company will run into difficulties very fast.once that inital money is gone they still have to pay for servers and salaries to keep the game going.
People forget that it pays the devs to encourage people to buy cash.If people do not buy ,then rest assured any dev who relies on this for income will adjust the game to make it so.This is ofc assuming the diehard fans were right in the first place which i doubt.
The orginal poster has the right intentions, but is way off in trying to sell Roma Victor.
I played UO from 97 until the special moves got implemented...I played like 3 times after lol. Some of my best memories ever from a game came from UO. I read the "What makes UO the best ever" thread and it brought back a lot of memories. Anyway, I never got into any other MMO until I tried SWG. That was great, it was the first game to capture my interest siince early UO and the first game since UO that I actually got addicted to. I started playing SWG in 03 I believe and suffered through the CU and eventually quit when the NGE hit. Again, I was searching for the next MMO and nothing could capture my interest...then I read about RV and pre-ordered and gamma tested and am currently addicted.
Now, all three MMO's I have loved had some key things in common, though they aren't even close to identical. The things I loved about UO are comparable to RV. Things like player driven content, housing, free pvp (even more free than UO if you are Barb), the crafting system to name a few (perhaps to name them all...I'm tired right now
)
The point is, if you liked UO...its worth your time to at least check into RV. That's as far as the OP should have gone. Don't buy it if your not impressed after you have given it an honest look. It's a niche game. It will never compete with the big boys most likely. But if I had never heard of RV, or if I hadn't ever looked into it, I know I would be thankful to someone that brought it to my intention (what am I saying, I AM thankful someone brought it to my intention and I'm just passing that on to whoever may be interested). I guess I'm a niche gamer, it's ok that I have a different opinion than most gamers.
Does RV have great graphics? Hell no. But I never played UO for the graphics. I don't see why that is the main point of most people saying RV is crap in this thread. The graphics? Come on. I admit, when I first heard of RV I checked it out and saw the screen shots and was dissapointed and forgot about it. Then I heard about it again so I went to check more in depth and eventually pre-ordered it. I must say, the game play and the promise this game holds makes me completely forget about it's bad graphics. I love the game...the visual part of any game tends to grow on you if you enjoy actually playing the game. The opposite doesn't hold true to me. I've played a lot of games that were amazing looking...that lasted about 1 day...then the gameplay flaws stuck out like a sore thumb
Does RV have a lot of developmental issues concerning servers like lag, tracking etc? Certainly, after suffering though a bad mem leak for a few days I was able to play fine for a couple weeks but currently I haven't been able to log on for 12 and a half hours. But, most mmo's suffer these types of problems in the first month. You know, if you have played many MMO's, this sort of thing will be fixed in due time.
In short, I love RV. That doesn't mean everyone will. But if you loved UO or classic SWG or whatever other sandbox style game that has been out there, RV is worth a look. I wont' try to argue that it is fun or a great game...that is all subjective and pointless to debate. You may hate it, that's fine. But this is just to all those people searching for something that can capture their interest again. RV has done that for me, maybe it could for you as well.
Generally, I don't recommend anyone trying RV right now unless they are passionate about playing a Virtual World MMOG and want every advantage possible at the expense of playing on an overloaded server. Since release the server has been unable to handle the players logging in and playing which has resulted in periods of server lag and difficulty in logging in that did not exist during test.
I doubt there are many around here that remember what the release of UO was like or how long it took to get the game running smoothly and fairly balanced. Years is the answer.
However, experienced UO veterans may know that the value of virtual real estate, skills and items is determined in much the same way as the actual, by location and limited supply - that was until EA developers took over UO and destroyed the value of their own game; in the case of UO.
RV is definately not run by anyone that comes close in thinking to the EA appointed UO developers that came after The Second Age.
Don't be terrorized! You're more likely to die of a car accident, drowning, fire, or murder! More people die every year from prescription drugs than terrorism LOL!
If there isn't a free trial.. I'm not trying.
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I think their servers would split at the seams with a free trial El.
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You actually recommend the crafting in this game?
Same crafting that involves make same pile x100000 to build the most primitive hut for days?
Come on!Apart from the community been very nice the game is not even fit to be in alpha .
Lag,boring crafting,poor maunual,horrible tutorial,missing skills,terrible interface interface,graphics so poor they actually cut and paste faces,a flawed engine,horrible movements,bugs and bugs,poor terrian,horrible combat,lack of wildlife etc etc.
I can't recall last time i gave a game the stamp of "stay far way from this junk" but RV certainly deserves the title.