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What current game is most similar to SWG?
britoca
Member Posts: 1,484
Hi Everyone,
In case you haven't been reading my posts, I am utterly brokenhearted since I left SWG. I have tried betas and free trials, etc for many other games, but so far none has given me the immersive feeling of SWG. I loved the giant planets, the variety of fauna, the weather, the countless skills and professions, and the variety of resoruces available as well.
Basically, a planet was giant, and there were 10 planets, each with many countless things to explore/look at. The combat was there, but was very optional, so u didn't just have to fight, fight , or pvp all the way like so many games are oriented towards.
I heard Ryzom isn't bad at all when it comes to the environment, but when I tried it, the characters/animations looked a bit stiff.
I currently play WOW because it runs fairly well, it is mostly bug free, and progress/exploration is very much up to the player's style/choice. However, if u play that game being a SWG veteran, you know that the available area to explore in any given region is minuscule when compared to SWG.
When I played SWG, I really felt lost in the middle of nowhere
when running around those planets. I am looking for that feeling
again. I want to log in, stop being the person in real-life, and
become my character. I really need that feeeling once more, and I haven't found it
yet again.
My question for you SWG refugees is, which game are you currently playing, and which game has given u the most similar experience to SWG?
Thanks much
In case you haven't been reading my posts, I am utterly brokenhearted since I left SWG. I have tried betas and free trials, etc for many other games, but so far none has given me the immersive feeling of SWG. I loved the giant planets, the variety of fauna, the weather, the countless skills and professions, and the variety of resoruces available as well.
Basically, a planet was giant, and there were 10 planets, each with many countless things to explore/look at. The combat was there, but was very optional, so u didn't just have to fight, fight , or pvp all the way like so many games are oriented towards.
I heard Ryzom isn't bad at all when it comes to the environment, but when I tried it, the characters/animations looked a bit stiff.
I currently play WOW because it runs fairly well, it is mostly bug free, and progress/exploration is very much up to the player's style/choice. However, if u play that game being a SWG veteran, you know that the available area to explore in any given region is minuscule when compared to SWG.
When I played SWG, I really felt lost in the middle of nowhere
when running around those planets. I am looking for that feeling
again. I want to log in, stop being the person in real-life, and
become my character. I really need that feeeling once more, and I haven't found it
yet again.
My question for you SWG refugees is, which game are you currently playing, and which game has given u the most similar experience to SWG?
Thanks much
-virtual tourist
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You're in good company here. Shayde even runs a weekly group-therapy sessions for us all.
I
heard Ryzom isn't bad at all when it comes to the environment, but when
I tried it, the characters/animations looked a bit stiff.
Hmm, I considered that one too. Haven't tried it, though.
My
question for you SWG refugees is, which game are you currently playing,
and which game has given u the most similar experience to SWG?
I've tried EVE, Anarchy Online, and WoW. I started playing WoW immediately after leaving pre-CU SWG, but ventured into EVE and Anarchy Online in between then and now. Neither kept my attention long, and WoW has been the game that I've played pretty much ever since SWG.
I'd be interested too in knowing if anybody out there has found a game similar to pre-CU SWG. I don't think it exists, but it would be interesting to hear.
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As ye SOE, so shall ye weep.
3 MMOs have potential:
-- Dark and Light: massive world, sandbox experience, skill-based, but graphics not as good as SWG, but close. In beta, launching later this month
-- Vanguard: Saga Of Heroes: massive world, very group-oriented, solo-unfriendly, class-based, graphics rival or maybe surpass that of SWG. In beta, launching later this year
-- Hero's Journey: massive world, skill-based, PVP friendly. In beta, launching later this year.
Toontown online?
You meany SWG as it is now, right?
Shayde - SWG (dead)
Proud member of the Cabal.
It sounds great, so great in fact, I pitty those who canceled
I don't like it when you say things. - A Vanguard fan who does too.
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Russian Roulette…oh you probably meant before the NGE.
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Welcome to the refugees camp buddy!
Honestly, there is no game similar to SWG, there are games which are comparable in certain aspects, but non of them got everything the good SWG-version once had.
So according to your question:
SOR (Saga of Ryzom) isnt that bad, but the PvP content and therefore the most of their targetaudience is not what you are looking for. The operating company is at least the same creepy in "service" like SoE.
Vanguard and Heroes Journy look promising, but both are history/fantasy without any SciFi or space flavour.
I would accept the "burden" of a fantasygame if the rest is ok. Like crafting, housing, community, economy, skillbased, turnbased, sandbox and all the little things making us wetting the pants.
STO (Star Trek Online) is one i am watching very very close and excited.
But when the jump (again) in bed with the devil (SoE) teaming up for the SoE Platform Publishing, i must really rethink to join the game.
I even say, reading the statements of the current PE (Perpetual Entertainment) CEO, that this guy has the same "dangerpotential" Smedley has - PE should really consider a "personal change" b4 they release such potential title and making decisions - which could cost a huge part of the success.
You dont make a spacegame/SciFi game knowing that at least 50% of your customer are SWG refugees and team up with the devil. That is a slap in the face.
Oups sorry, went offtopic
CoV: Fun for a little time (emph. on "little")
Nothing in it then mindless repeative grind, no endcontent.
EvE:
Complex huge game
harsh deathpenality (thats why i dont play it)
No real interaction and reversekinetic in it: Stiff ship flying in space.
You never leave your ship
Anarchy online:
The gfx are horrid, kind of atari like
Lineage2:
PvP fest - if you like...
GW:
Repeative and not really "MMO" since massivly instanced
Second life:
Visual community for lovers of devote cyberpractices...
Not much more out there worth a look.
There are many games, but already reading what they are like doesnt get me excited nuff to try them
So...we wait....
Claude
{(RIP)} SWG
Claude, just curious, but what country are you from? Sometimes, your choice of words makes me laugh my head off ( in a good way :P ).
OP you arent alone in your searching lol. I too am playing Wow (and GW) till i can find something i love, but no luck so far, even after trying every free trial i can get my hands on. They all just seem so....plastic, so.. the same.. lol.
For the Horde!
SWG Veteran and Refugee, Intrepid server
NGE free as of Nov. 22, 2005
Now Playing: World of Warcrack
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Sorry
There is no game currently on the market even remotely like SWG. Fans of various games will try to tell you their game is like SWG but there just aren't any.
Well there IS 1 but it's pretty old: Ultima Online, after all, SWG was built using UO as a template for what they wanted to do with it.
Other than that there isn't a decent game on the market that's even remotely similar to SWG. EVE would be the 'closest' modern title and even that is a bit of a stretch. It's "skill based" but that's about the total extent of it's similarity other than it happens to be a sci-fi title.
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CS Lewis
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Ico
Oh, cruel fate, to be thusly boned. Ask not for whom the bone bones. It bones for thee.
Welcome aboard....you are definitely not alone. As has been said already, there really isnt a game out (that I can find) that is similar to old SWG. Personally, im in beta/free trial hell trying to find something I can stand for more than an hour.
I suppose Hope springs eternal though, and in that context there are a few games im watching for.
Vanguard; I hate that its level based and fantasy, but it does have some appeal.
Dark and Light; despite all the negative things that have happened during its beta there are still some aspects of the game that seem good.
Roma Victor; still needs a lot of work, but the concept and the attitudes of the Devs are great.
Although im probably quite delusional, I still hold out hope that someone will buy the pre-cu code and release SWG classic. Oh well, a girl can dream cant she?
"The man who exchanges Liberty for Iconic classes is a fool deserving of neither." - Me and Ben Franklin
I have to agree with Claude for the most part. I'm a might worn down with fantasy games, but, EQ2 was ok. (Maybe cause a lot of our guild moved there.) Beings it's SOE though....cancelled.
So, I haven't found anything similar, yet. I guess I'm taking a break, so to speak, from MMOs and playing single player games.
Well, I know that SWG being as complex as it was, it allowed many different variety of players to be under one same hat. You could pvp (though I read it was severely unbalanced), you could solo, you could team up, you could do quests (the ones that worked), you could straight-line kill, or you could just explore till u though there would never come the day the map would end. Yup, pre CU, with all full set of professions. That was pretty mindblowing.
I enjoyed the exploring and the hunting a lot. Xp harvesting was fun too, but it was more as an added benfit to the exploring and the casual killing as I went along. Never really got into pvp, it doesn't appeal.
So yeah, it seems there's no game that would satisfy such preferences to the level SWG did. Wow gives me very good runs on some sessions, but it's not gamer heaven, and I've been there, and I can't go there anymore.
Let's see...
There is one game, that those of the builder/cooperation types of you might really enjoy, at least for a week or so, and that is A Tale in the Desert 2. It takes place in old Egypt, and mostly you build things. Machinery, bricks, buildings, etc. The world is huge, though a bit too homogenous. you craft, and craft, and build, and make, and assemble, and harvest resources to your heart's delight. You can belong to many multiple guilds at the same time, as these are more like cooperation resource pools. You network your way along the guilds and cooperate a lot. As a matter of fact, there are skill trees, the politicians, which you actually have to teach, help, or support people and get their vote of aproval, and that is how you progress if you decide to follow that path. If u like that stuff, please try the free trial, I thought it was fun. In the end, it lacked action, and so I quit after a month, but the community system seemed unlike anything I've seen in other games.
At the moment I guess I am looking forward to Dark and Light and Roma Victor.
I mean... the people at Roma Victor say the map is Europe at 1/2 scale.... Do you realize how huge that is??? You walk on foot or ride horses. At that scale, Italy alone is roughly 500km or 311 miles from top to bottom. That's about 7 days of continuous walking! Let's just hope it's varied enough.
Thanks everyone, great forum
-virtual tourist
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Well i think i have tryed them all. Nothing is as good as SWG, But there are some games comming out that has some hope.
Roma-victor- Super old stlye graphics. Gmae play is super deep. The map is horrible. But the game is super deep. I think the dev have a few old style green screen MACs around.Ill explain the map. Its cut in areas zones. i think thers is like 30 different zones. But you dont ZONE the land just loops over and over again. and the play areas are tiny i would say 85% of the total map is looped land. Its NOT a scale map. They would like you to think so but its not near a open map is just one big loop. Its gay one of the reasons im not looking forward to the game
DarkFall- This is my hope. I hope the dev finish it. I hope its relesed. if if if it is it could become a great game.i hope they pull it off.
Vangaurd- Looks like a great game. It has like a 30 million doller production buget so they will need alot of people to play marketing to the KIDs like wow and make a carebear game. but the devs talk crazy about pvp and pve. Sounds like they are making a noobish PVE game. I think its gonig to be a EQ3 type of thingy.
Darkandlight- The beta (sog) was crap worse them crap. super duper crap. But the devs say the real game is goiing to have all the things they said it should have. it could be a great game but i bet its going to fall on its face.
star trek online- I been reading bad stuff about this game. Bacily take guild wars and make it into star trek. NO PVP You can only be the fedration. ALL PVE BASED. Prolly gonna have the classic "epic" quest and all you do is follow the story line. crap. utter crap. they are just trying to grab a bunch of STs fans money, making a cheap mmo. And it will work. and no crafting and its lvl based not skill.
EvE- its a good game. dep good graphics but you have to wait 6 months if you want to pvp. and they skill is based off time not skill points.
You know im gonna say something. I belive there should be LAWS aginst DEVS lieing about game content. All they are doing is .
step 1) MAke a game,
Step 2) Make a FAQ and say its going to have a ton of stuff
step3) relese the game and say your trying to make it what you said it would be. aka make a ton of money selling a lie.
i bet the collapse of SWG hads made other people a ton of money i paid over 200 bucks buying new games. all of them crap.
bars+girls+no condoms= babies
RV is one of the games I'll be trying this summer. If only to throw rocks at the crucified gankers
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So, you all sat in camps and that was fun?
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Ok, a while back, someone posted something similar to this, if this is not the same post Im not sure, who cares, But ...
Since that post, seeing this one and pretty much agreeing with said feelings, I then tried out City Of Villains, City Of Heros, World Of Warcraft and The Matrix Online...Now coming from Star Wars Galaxies, Ultima Online, Everquest 1,2 and Shadowbane, using a collaboration of points from all those games, good points and bad, then I would definetly have to say IMO, that nothing up to date has matched SWG from my time in SWG Pre-NGE.
Although lots of those games had strong points and very good strong points at that, they all lacked something, I just cant put my finger on it and I'm sure and 99% positive that any former player (Pre-NGE that is) would agree with me on this.
I often find myself caught in a conversation in other games with former SWG players about how so and so played SWG since launch and so on, "NGE ruined the game" blah blah blah, no matter what game I play, there is an X- SWG player there looking for something that isn't there just like me.
In conclusion then I'd have to say No, there wont be anything like what we had that in that game, not for a good while.
I have been trying out games all over the place ever since I quit after the CU. Nothing really out there compares. Personally I am waiting on Lord of the Rings Online and Pirates of the Burning Sea.
If you are looking for a real immersive, non online RPG type game, check out Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion. I just happened to be at the store looking around and noticed it and figured, "why not?" I can honestly say it is one of the most impressive games I have played. I find myself getting very little sleep now (like back in the old SWG day). If SWG had a smidgeon of the content that Oblivion has, it would still be going strong. Check it out...or just google it and look at all the high reviews for it if you don't believe me.
http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/gameId/157/setView/features/loadFeature/585
-virtual tourist
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PRE-PUB9 SWG...there is nothing like it!
I was a Bounty Hunter from day one!. I loved the really complicated crafting system. I thought the Role Play aspect was outstanding. You had so many options to make it all so very interesting...IT WAS GREAT!
Now it's nothing more than childrens game...I miss the old days so much!!!
Eve is pretty a pretty solid contender for the old SWG Imho, but it can be pretty boring at times. So if you try this game follow the tutorial and get used to navigating and other related stuff and join a corp asap that regurly does things together. Specially if you get a couple of friends to play cooperatively then this game comes close to beating pre-cu.
Star Trek Online, like someone else said, I heard nothing but bad about. It's supposedly level based aswell as with zones so you're led in a linear fashion through the game a'la WoW. Little freedom.
Roma Victor can be a good option, but I don't know enough about it to make an opinion on it.
The closest thing to the old SWG is Imho The Chronicle, if it doesn't become vaporware that is. If the pre-release faq is correct it will have an open ended skillsystem, player run economy, player cities but also ffa pvp, landcontrol, permadeath but with a twist aswell as a whole other bunch of features. I'm personally a bit iffy about certain features such as the permadeath but I think this game, if ever released, has the best chance of being a deep sandbox a'la old swg ... only hopefully more fun and less buggy :P
In looks, and sci-fi, the most similar there is project entropia, but the game works under a real money per items system. Take a look at this:
http://www.project-entropia.com/gallery/Index.ajp
[quote]Originally posted by LilT
Claude, just curious, but what country are you from? Sometimes, your choice of words makes me laugh my head off ( in a good way :P )[/image][/b][/quote]
STALKERALERT !!
I dont say...I dont say...
I know EXACTLY what you want, and my mommy told me...no she WARNED me of "gales" like you.
Because i am a good boy, YES I AM !
Ok..second....yep, shes not living here so she cant hear me:
Im in Europe baby, get the little black one and lets talk about details sweetie
:)
Joking...
Claude
It's not sci-fi, but for a free game, it's not bad at all.
-virtual tourist
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Played (more than a month): SWG, Second Life, Tabula Rasa, Lineage 2, Everquest 2, EvE, MxO, Ryzom.
Tried: WoW, Shadowbane, Anarchy Online, Everquest, WWII Online, Planetside
Beta: Lotro, Tabula Rasa, WAR.