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Is John Smedley still in charge of SOE?

ClackamasClackamas Member Posts: 776
in Star Wars Galaxies
Why has he not been fired yet?

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  • Agricola1Agricola1 Member UncommonPosts: 4,977
    He is a trans-sexual Satan worshipper and uses voodoo to keep his current job. He is incharge of $OE but not his own sanity.

    "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience"

    CS Lewis

  • Aikes1Aikes1 Member Posts: 292

    He isnt the problem. The people who hold the power and who wanted a greater return for their product is LAE. He is just making money doing his job.

    "SWG was a world, now it's just a game" -adamrk-

    "When the game was good, you didn't have to ask where the population was, because it was everywhere. When the game was good you didn't have to ask which server had population, because they all did. When the game was good you didn't have to beg friends to give it a try, because they were already playing. " - Salty Pete

  • ebenholtebenholt Member Posts: 312
    As SOE is more than just SWG Smed won't get the boot until the whole company runs downhill

    "There are two kinds of spurs, my friend. Those that come in by the door; those that come in by the window"

  • ClaudeFRClaudeFR Member Posts: 376

    Originally posted by ebenholt
    until the whole company runs downhill

    Matrix online
    EQII
    SWG
    Planetside

    Ok, company runs downhill, can we fire him now ? ::::02:: ::::02::

    Claude

  • PepiDetoPepiDeto Member Posts: 85

    If you want him fired buy enough stock in both LAE and SOE to control the board of both companies.  Then you will be in charge and maybe help this game get back to the way it used to be.

    Pepi Deto
    Colonel Rebel Alliance
    Corbantis Server
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  • duncan_922duncan_922 Member Posts: 1,670

    Originally posted by Aikes

    He isnt the problem. The people who hold the power and who wanted a greater return for their product is LAE. He is just making money doing his job.
    It's just as bad placing the blame solely on SOE as it is placing it solely on LA.  SOE and LA are both accountable for this mess, they are both incompetent, they just screw up different aspects of the game.  Even Smed himself said that the NGE was NOT forced on them by LA.

    SOE knows what you like... You don't!
    And don't forget... I am forcing you to read this!

  • ClaudeFRClaudeFR Member Posts: 376

    Originally posted by PepiDeto
    If you want him fired buy enough stock in both LAE and SOE to control the board of both companies.  Then you will be in charge and maybe help this game get back to the way it used to be.

    Nah, if i want him FIRED - i hope.
    If i want TO FIRE him, i buy stock(s?).

    Since their stock drop when he gets fired (causal), i go with the hope-version
    Tho..maybe their stock(s) go up when he is fired....hmmm....

    Gimme a little time to rethink that ::::14::

    Claude

  • SpathotanSpathotan Member Posts: 3,928

    Originally posted by ClaudeFR


    Originally posted by ebenholt
    until the whole company runs downhill

    Matrix online
    EQII
    SWG
    Planetside

    Ok, company runs downhill, can we fire him now ? ::::02:: ::::02::

    Your list should look along the lines of..

    Planetside
    SWG
    EQOA
    CoN
    MxO
    Untold Legends : Dark Kingdom
    DC Comics

    EQ nor EQ2 are downhill games, nor are they failures. I play both EQ2 and WoW, so my pov is respectable and valid. As for the other 2 games, DC and Untold Legends, they both fail before they are even done with development. DC for having that stupid PE system, and Untold Legends because its being developed for a dying, failing platform which has NO support whatsoever from anybody besides Sony, and its software device (the UMD) has all but died.

    "There's no star system Slave I can't reach, and there's no planet I can't find. There's nowhere in the Galaxy for you to run. Might as well give up now."
    — Boba Fett

  • almagillalmagill Member Posts: 279
    Anybody looked at what voting rights shareholders  of SOE / Sony Corp have?  Or thought that, as a shareholder, you can ask questions which you are tehn entitled to get answers to?

    Just a thought.. in passing.. as it were...

    /innocentLook



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  • ebenholtebenholt Member Posts: 312

    Originally posted by ClaudeFR


    Originally posted by ebenholt
    until the whole company runs downhill

    Matrix online
    EQII
    SWG
    Planetside

    Ok, company runs downhill, can we fire him now ? ::::02:: ::::02::

    By all means! You are more then welcome to boot him

    But the sad thing is I don't think SOE as a whole is going downhill... I wish they were

    "There are two kinds of spurs, my friend. Those that come in by the door; those that come in by the window"

  • ClaudeFRClaudeFR Member Posts: 376

    Originally posted by Spathotan

    ...I play both EQ2 and WoW, so my pov is respectable and valid....

    No, its not. Playing ANY SoE-game makes you my personal slave i can send around my house, without any respect, sending you for coffee, ciggies, shopping and cleaning my car ::::02::

    Joking bro.... ::::20::

    Claude

  • ElnatorElnator Member Posts: 6,077

    Sorry guys.

    1. MxO isn't an SOE title.  They got it when they got the license for DC Comics for the new MMO they're making ;)
    2. PlanetSide wasn't going downhill last time I played.  It has been stagnant for a few years but some MUCH desired changes are around the corner.  I may open a new account for just PS if all the promised changes hit.  It could have dipped since November but I doubt it.
    3. EQ2 is not dying, not by a long shot.  Not sure where you get the idea that one is dying.  I have a few friends that play it and everything they've seen indicates that it's still growing since the PVP expansions.
    4. EQ1 is still alive and kicking strongly.
    5. SWG is the only failure I really credit to SOE.
    6. EQOA and the other minor 'eq spinoffs' they made I really don't count as they weren't MMO's and they were never really expected to do much even by SOE.

    I'll stand right beside anyone and give both SOE and LA grief for the debacle that is known as NGE.  But to call SOE a failed company is foolish.

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  • SpathotanSpathotan Member Posts: 3,928

    Originally posted by Elnator

    Sorry guys.

    MxO isn't an SOE title.  They got it when they got the license for DC Comics for the new MMO they're making ;)

    Its an SoE game. It was aquired by SoE, it is now ran, and dev'd by SoE, its an SoE game. Do I need to link the webpage with all this?

    "There's no star system Slave I can't reach, and there's no planet I can't find. There's nowhere in the Galaxy for you to run. Might as well give up now."
    — Boba Fett

  • BadBoyOnFireBadBoyOnFire Member Posts: 102

    Originally posted by Clackamas
    Why has he not been fired yet?


    Has Satan been fired from hell?

    I guess thats the same question really.


  • ElnatorElnator Member Posts: 6,077

    Originally posted by Spathotan

    Originally posted by Elnator

    Sorry guys.

    MxO isn't an SOE title.  They got it when they got the license for DC Comics for the new MMO they're making ;)

    Its an SoE game. It was aquired by SoE, it is now ran, and dev'd by SoE, its an SoE game. Do I need to link the webpage with all this?

    They didn't develop it or design it though.  It's success or failure is far from their fault.  MxO sucked ass before SOE bought it.  Saying it's their fault that it still stinks is silly.  It's not like they bought it planning to really support it.  The first thing they did was throw a server merge at it then drop the GM run events.  That should tell you their attitude about it.  They got it as part of the licence.  They really don't care about it from a company viewpoint.  To be honest they probably took a loss when taking it over and are just in the 'just don't let it cost us too much to keep it running' mode.  Much like Tanarus, Infantry and their other *small* titles that they maintain.  (Which are also pretty good by the way).


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  • JediGeekJediGeek Member Posts: 446

    Originally posted by Elnator

    Originally posted by Spathotan

    Originally posted by Elnator

    Sorry guys.

    MxO isn't an SOE title.  They got it when they got the license for DC Comics for the new MMO they're making ;)

    Its an SoE game. It was aquired by SoE, it is now ran, and dev'd by SoE, its an SoE game. Do I need to link the webpage with all this?

    They didn't develop it or design it though.  It's success or failure is far from their fault.  MxO sucked ass before SOE bought it.  Saying it's their fault that it still stinks is silly.  It's not like they bought it planning to really support it.  The first thing they did was throw a server merge at it then drop the GM run events.  That should tell you their attitude about it.  They got it as part of the licence.  They really don't care about it from a company viewpoint.  To be honest they probably took a loss when taking it over and are just in the 'just don't let it cost us too much to keep it running' mode.  Much like Tanarus, Infantry and their other *small* titles that they maintain.  (Which are also pretty good by the way).




    So, how is that part different from SWG now?  Does them not giving a crap to support it absolve them from any obligation to paying customers?
    How does the excuse that they didn't really want it make it okay?
    By the same logic, it's okay for SOE to not support SWG.
    SWG was originally licensed by Verant Studios.  They also originally developed EQ.  But, since SOE wanted EQ, and not SWG, it's okay to not really care about SWG because they didn't really want it.

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  • ClaudeFRClaudeFR Member Posts: 376

    Originally posted by Elnator

    Originally posted by Spathotan
    Originally posted by Elnator
    Sorry guys.[*]MxO isn't an SOE title.  They got it when they got the license for DC Comics for the new MMO they're making ;)
    Its an SoE game. It was aquired by SoE, it is now ran, and dev'd by SoE, its an SoE game. Do I need to link the webpage with all this?They didn't develop it or design it though.  It's success or failure is far from their fault.  MxO sucked ass before SOE bought it.  Saying it's their fault that it still stinks is silly.  It's not like they bought it planning to really support it.  The first thing they did was throw a server merge at it then drop the GM run events.  That should tell you their attitude about it.  They got it as part of the licence.  They really don't care about it from a company viewpoint.  To be honest they probably took a loss when taking it over and are just in the 'just don't let it cost us too much to keep it running' mode.  Much like Tanarus, Infantry and their other *small* titles that they maintain.  (Which are also pretty good by the way).


    I have to disagree here.

    It is an SoE title, even if not developed originally by SoE (same for EQ then, following this logic).
    It was in SoE hands to MAKE it a success, to repair it (ROFL, i cant believe i really use the word "repair" in one sentence with SoE).

    But you are right, they dont care because it was just the key to the DC lock.
    But its still a SoE title - even if its is the unloved stepchild, or better: The unloved foundling...

    Claude

  • duncan_922duncan_922 Member Posts: 1,670

    Originally posted by Elnator

    Originally posted by Spathotan

    Originally posted by Elnator

    Sorry guys.

    MxO isn't an SOE title.  They got it when they got the license for DC Comics for the new MMO they're making ;)

    Its an SoE game. It was aquired by SoE, it is now ran, and dev'd by SoE, its an SoE game. Do I need to link the webpage with all this?

    They didn't develop it or design it though.  It's success or failure is far from their fault.  MxO sucked ass before SOE bought it.  Saying it's their fault that it still stinks is silly.  It's not like they bought it planning to really support it.  The first thing they did was throw a server merge at it then drop the GM run events.  That should tell you their attitude about it.  They got it as part of the licence.  They really don't care about it from a company viewpoint.  To be honest they probably took a loss when taking it over and are just in the 'just don't let it cost us too much to keep it running' mode.  Much like Tanarus, Infantry and their other *small* titles that they maintain.  (Which are also pretty good by the way).




    Let's not forget that MxO's only saving grace, which was the Live Events, have been all but removed since SOE took over.

    SOE knows what you like... You don't!
    And don't forget... I am forcing you to read this!

  • SpathotanSpathotan Member Posts: 3,928

    Originally posted by ClaudeFR


    Originally posted by Elnator

    Originally posted by Spathotan
    Originally posted by Elnator
    Sorry guys.

    [*]MxO isn't an SOE title.  They got it when they got the license for DC Comics for the new MMO they're making ;)


    Its an SoE game. It was aquired by SoE, it is now ran, and dev'd by SoE, its an SoE game. Do I need to link the webpage with all this?

    They didn't develop it or design it though.  It's success or failure is far from their fault.  MxO sucked ass before SOE bought it.  Saying it's their fault that it still stinks is silly.  It's not like they bought it planning to really support it.  The first thing they did was throw a server merge at it then drop the GM run events.  That should tell you their attitude about it.  They got it as part of the licence.  They really don't care about it from a company viewpoint.  To be honest they probably took a loss when taking it over and are just in the 'just don't let it cost us too much to keep it running' mode.  Much like Tanarus, Infantry and their other *small* titles that they maintain.  (Which are also pretty good by the way).



    I have to disagree here.

    It is an SoE title, even if not developed originally by SoE (same for EQ then, following this logic).
    It was in SoE hands to MAKE it a success, to repair it (ROFL, i cant believe i really use the word "repair" in one sentence with SoE).

    But you are right, they dont care because it was just the key to the DC lock.
    But its still a SoE title - even if its is the unloved stepchild, or better: The unloved foundling...

    Good point Claude. So EQLive isnt a SoE game either Elnator? Just as stated above, it isnt "following this logic". The origional company that developed EQLive and was Smedleys company sold out to Sony. Same scenario with MxO and DC.

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  • ClaudeFRClaudeFR Member Posts: 376

    OT:

    Spath, i just saw you play(ed?) oblivion ?

    Great, i just finished quest 18.

    ANd i feel lost now (i dont want to post a spoiler here).
    I create another char today and replay it in a completely diff. way (making MUCH more sidequests).

    Ok, sorry for OT, just babbling....

    Claude

  • voodookhanvoodookhan Member Posts: 267

    Originally posted by duncan_922
    Let's not forget that MxO's only saving grace, which was the Live Events, have been all but removed since SOE took over.


    QFT

    SOE wasn't originally responsible for MxO's dev/design failure to be sure, but they sure as hell didn't do much to improve the game after they took it over. They bought/aquired a poor game, and continue to maintain a poor game.

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  • hargravehargrave Member Posts: 329
    forget Smed Julio tores is the real person who should be fired. He came up with this whole NGE crap and his obsession to turn swg into wow. I wish i could of gone to those summits i would asked him how in the hell he has a job still? If he worked for u or me or anyone else and ruined a company and claimed its better now he would of been out the door but i guess at SOE/Lucasarts kneepads pay off...

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  • SpathotanSpathotan Member Posts: 3,928

    Originally posted by ClaudeFR

    OT:
    Spath, i just saw you play(ed?) oblivion ?
    Great, i just finished quest 18.
    ANd i feel lost now (i dont want to post a spoiler here).
    I create another char today and replay it in a completely diff. way (making MUCH more sidequests).
    Ok, sorry for OT, just babbling....
    I havnt played it in like 2 weeks actually. As farthest as ive gotten in the main quest is right after Barik (i think) dies, the black Blades guy. Ive mostly found myself wandering around doing sidequest and exploring. I found a preety badass looking set of light armor in some tomb, all the pieces of it (chest, legs, boots, gauntlets, sword and shield) are scattered throughout the zone, and the sword has a Ice damage enhancement. The suit is like light light blueish/silver, looks preety cool lol.

    "There's no star system Slave I can't reach, and there's no planet I can't find. There's nowhere in the Galaxy for you to run. Might as well give up now."
    — Boba Fett

  • Pjay2kPjay2k Member CommonPosts: 260

    Originally posted by Clackamas
    Why has he not been fired yet?


    because of this:

    http://lolnge.ytmnd.com/

    lol

    SOE and NGE-Star Wars Galalaxies:
    Raph Koster: "It's like dumping the girlfriend who has always been patient and loving to chase after the supermodel who probably won't love you back."

  • ClackamasClackamas Member Posts: 776
    Geez, that scared my Cat....

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