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WhatTheHeo
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I think the government should do something about these prices. $3.00 a gallon is way too much (might go up
more in the near future), ever since the jump in gas prices I decided to use public transportation, bicycle, walk
or carpool. Which is a good thing I need to stop being a lazy ass and I save alot of $$$.
Heres the site also the price of gas where I live is here
P.S. post the gas prices from your place I like to know or not... 
If it ain't broke, don't fix it...
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And if you're a super smart person you could also look into how you can benefit financially! *Gasp*
I know, I know....you're say but how Alex? Well, i'll tell you how. As gas prices go up other businesses go up too. I'm talking about investing in Alternative energy. This is a great time to invest in them because we're gonna need it soon (actually we need em now but it will be needed even more later). Not just us either but other businesses will want to switch to alternative energy to save money. You could really make killing if you got in now because its still pretty soon and thats when to get in.
Only reason i'm not investing is because i'm 17 and still mooching off my parents...
But I read a great book on how to thrive when oil goes up and it was all about investing in this type of stuff. He gave an example of one guy who knew WW2 was going to happen and so he made the right investing choices and became I think a billionaire...maybe a millionaire. Either way he saw a crisis and made a fortune. Of course I don't condone getting rich off of other people's suffering but high gas prices is different but still the same in a way...you understand.
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yes but this energy issue is different from the past.
like when whale oil ran out we all knew we were gonna switch to synthetic oils for lamps and candles, and it was the only feasible option.
when we went from coal to gasoline and petroleum products, yet again petroleum was the only real alternative.
now we have the option of switching from petroleum to solar, hydro, hybrid, and corn fuels, etc.
and dont get me started on just power generation plants.
there are so many options there ranging from nuclear, solar, wind, water, cold fusion(i think its different), or we could use fission(think back to the future at the end of the first where he puts the trash in the car).
so investing is very risky because i dont think all of them will take off by a long shot.
so im not so sure i think ill let others risk their money at this point unless something really unique and cool comes along.
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Oh no, poor americans you have to pay for your gas. Oh I feel so sorry for you. NOT! Your record high petrol prices is still 1/3 of our prices. So I don't understand why you whine
All countries should have high "enviromental" taxes on petrol like we have. But cars that run on electricity, hybrids have none of those taxes. That is how my goverment tries to make us more enviromental friendly.
But if a american politician just as whispers something about raising the petrol prices, you can be damn sure that he will never show his face into politics again. I think you have to realize that you have a problem. USA spends 1/4 of the worlds entire oil consumption! You can't denie that it's a problem. If the world would refuse to deliver more oil to USA your emergency stocks would run out in 37 days. That is not a healthy situation for you.
You are one of the greatest nations when it comes to science. But in the department of new energy sources, or renewable energy you are far behind. Why is that? The oil is not the future. No matter how you twist or turn it, it's going to run out, it's going to run out soon. Why can't you start realizing that? You got the money to change to other energy sources. What is keeping you from doing it?
Thank you! I absolutely agree. Its just Americans have pretty thick skulls. You should see how many SUVs are just driving around sucking up so much gas. Unfortunately SUVS = High status...not in real life but in their minds. Fortunately some states are giving tax breaks on people who buy hybrids, but really this is not quite fix at all.
Quite frankly I can't wait for us to run out of oil (give it 10 years or less, but certainly no more than 20). So many people will be completely devastated....but I bet they won't even blame themselves...(They will just forget how they cried for lower gas prices).
This whole mess could be diverted if we acted quick, and spent about a trillion (not kidding) dollars in getting America on alternative energy. Cleaner environment and diverting probably an end to civilization as we know it and massive deaths. If you all can't believe this then you don't realize our entire civilization runs on oil! Oil doesn't last forever and many experts predict it will happen within 20 years.We have a growing population and a declining oil supply.
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"When Saddam flew that plane into those buildings, I knew it was time to kick some Iranian ass!"
-cheer leading, flag waving American
Quite frankly I can't wait for us to run out of oil (give it 10 years or less, but certainly no more than 20). So many people will be completely devastated....but I bet they won't even blame themselves...(They will just forget how they cried for lower gas prices).
I agree with both of you. It's about 1/3 - 1/4 of the current price in Denmark.
But I don't agree on that oil part. But I'm looking forward to when politicians look on the more enviroment friendly way, than the way that is most lucrative for them. Greedy bastards. We could easily have replaced gasolin, but with the taxes, bills and crap, they make money of still having oilbased fuel.
wow.... i don't drive, but im probably not going to if the prices keap going up like this..... unless there are new cars that don't 'waste' gas like some these day's.
*looks in the future* *see's all fat rich people driving cars*
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I just don't get why people are whining about gas prices. As another poster stated, other countries are paying twice what we are for gasoline. We have it pretty sweet when you sit back and look at it. But most people are just looking at the issue selfishly.
The fact is that India and China are now using the same amount of gas we here in the states used 10 years ago. our own use has risen as well, and India and Chinas usage is expanding dynamically. That can't help but raise prices due to such an increased demand. Couple that with the turmoil countries like Nigeria are going through, the lunatic in Venezuela, not to mention the mideast and it is a simple fact that oil prices are going to rise.
Politicians here don't seem to be interested in fixing the situation, and are not admitting their own responsibility for our high gas prices. Instead, they want to put on a little show and bring the oil companies in for 'gouging' or some such nonsense. Democrats are happy having it as an election year issue, so they're not about to try and fix the problem. And what are the Republicans doing? Offering us $100 checks to 'alleviate' the costs to consumers?? Gimme a freaking break. How about you politicians do something that will help the problem... like telling the environmental lobby to shove it! They have prevented us from building refineries i 30 years. They oppose any and all drilling for oil on our own continent while China and Cuba are planning on drilling just off our own coastlines. We have a significant amount of oil in Alaska that we can tap, yet we allow ourselves to be held hostage. Prices are high enough now where it makes it feasible to procure oil from shale. Lets get busy on that. Let's work on alternative energy sources as well for the future. But the politicans, as usual are not looking for solutions... they're just trying to extend the problem so they'll have 'issues'.
How dare those evil oil companies have profit margins in line with most other large corporations! How dare they set the price of the property they own (and wish to sell to voluntary purchasers) so high that they make 8-12 cents profit a gallon of gas sold.
The government makes far more. I think here in wisconsin they tax us 50 cents a gallon.
There is plenty of oil in the ground right here in America, but environmental protection laws prevent us from drilling for it...Damn DEMONCRATS!
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"When Saddam flew that plane into those buildings, I knew it was time to kick some Iranian ass!"
-cheer leading, flag waving American
Of course they could improve the public transportation system but also that will cost due to the huge size difference also a little bit more than it cost in europe.
Besides the culture here is also different. Americans have so much land, as they started to build their cities, why should they build them so compact as the europeans do it? Why build one complex after the next if you can spread it out wider than you can in europe.
I personally dont understand why they dont go to solar energy cars, I mean they have way more sunny days than the europeans have and the speed limit is for those distances redicolously low anyway; but if the lobby doesnt want it, than there is only little the average person can do.
I am preptty sure no American would say anything against a car which only uses 1 gallon for like 10000 miles. If you invent such a car, let me know. I would be the first person to buy it
Of course they could improve the public transportation system but also that will cost due to the huge size difference also a little bit more than it cost in europe.
Besides the culture here is also different. Americans have so much land, as they started to build their cities, why should they build them so compact as the europeans do it? Why build one complex after the next if you can spread it out wider than you can in europe.
I personally dont understand why they dont go to solar energy cars, I mean they have way more sunny days than the europeans have and the speed limit is for those distances redicolously low anyway; but if the lobby doesnt want it, than there is only little the average person can do.
I am preptty sure no American would say anything against a car which only uses 1 gallon for like 10000 miles. If you invent such a car, let me know. I would be the first person to buy it
Ofcourse I'm aware of the geographical differences between Europe and USA. But they don't justify driving "monster trucks" around. And your cities aren't that much different. It's not like it's 1 km between each building in USA
There are so many viable options that are independent of geographical differences. Hybrid cars, electro cars (city use mostly), diesel cars (can use diesel based on wheat, fish oil and alcohol fuel from trees) or normal cars that use less. The options are there. But the will to use them is not. You still drive around in Dodge trucks and SUV's.
Very informative movie:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7369424310394553407&q=NOVA+dimming+the+sun&pl=true
There is no scientific evidence to back claims of man-made global warming. Period. Anyone who tells you that scientific research shows warming trends—be they teachers, newscasters, Congressmen, Senators, Vice Presidents or Presidents—is wrong. In fact, scientific research through U.S. government satellite and balloon measurements shows that the temperature is actually cooling—very slightly—.037 degrees Celsius.
A little research into modern-day temperature trends bears this out. For example, in 1936 the Midwest of the United States experienced 49 consecutive days of temperatures over 90 degrees. There were another 49 consecutive days in 1955. But in1992 there was only one day over 90 degrees and, in 1997, only 5 days. Because of modern science and improved equipment, this "cooling" trend has been most accurately documented over the past 18 years. Ironically, that's the same period of time the hysteria has grown over dire warnings of "warming."
Changes in global temperatures are natural. In fact, much of the recent severe weather has been directly attributed to a natural phenomenon that occurs every so often called El Nino. It causes ocean temperatures to rise as tropical trade winds actually reverse for a time. The resulting temperature changes cause severe storms, flooding, and even drought on every continent on earth. It's completely natural. El Nino has been wreaking its havoc across the globe since long before man appeared.
"There is no scientific evidence to back claims of man-made global warming" Oh boy. So experts in NASA, ESA, weather experts, scientist and proffecors all over the globe are completely wrong? So the planes, weather ballons, water test, satelite images that sweap our atmosphere for every single particle, show false numbers? You mean that the scientific temprature measurements from every single continent, done by people independent of each others are wrong?
Doesn't it sound kinda wierd to you that you dismiss evidence, collected by the best experts are wrong? That the corrupt dress covered burocratic ass lickers (I think there is a word called lobbyist for these also) of the oil companies are the ones that are right?
You say there is no evidence. If you want to say there is no evidence you will have to prove to us that all the thousands of experts, with years of education at the finest universities, with years of experience in the field are wrong. You will have to prove that some of the most intricate and fine tuned electrical equipment man kind has ever made show false values. You will have to prove that hundreds of thousands, if not million of independently taken temprature, sun, cloud and particle measurements are wrong.
At the moment it's lobbyist and members of the republican party vs let's say a couple of thousand scientist around the globe. I for one, choose to believe the latter.
uhm well I havent seen 1 real monster truck since I came here 8 month ago. I also count way more hondas and toyotas here than i see SUV.
No it isnt like 1 km between each building. It is sometimes a couple of Miles.
I dont talk about cities like NY or LA or Dallas. The majority lives way outside in the suburban area.
Like 4 years ago I would have totally agreed with you. Now I live and work here over half a year and see some things a little bit from a different angle. Not the tourist side who just makes a round trip through the big cities.
You should really come on your next vacations to the USA and have a look at it and try to walk by 100 Fahrenheiten only a mile to a job. You will sweat it is unbelievable. I am sure that you would wish to sit in a car than with A/C, which costs even more gas.
I also have never seen in Germany anybody going to his friend and proclaiming "I bought a toyota or Honda" and I lived 28 years there.
Personally I have seen more people telling me here that they buy foreign cars because they are more reliable.
I sure dont want to attack you, but well, you see some things just cooler in Denmark. Without a car you are really helpless here. Be it because of the distance or be it because of the temperature.
Frankly I have seen the europeans bitching quiet a lot of their gas prices too.
Do Americans have a right to bitch about their gas prices? Sure they have a right, just because somebody has even worser gas prices, doesnt mean they have to shut up and be happy about it.
But europeans have a choice, you dont NEED a car that urgent there than you need it in the US.
EDIT: With NEED I mean that the average person can go and protests againt the car manufactures and gas companys by simply not useing any car.
But it's a fact that a single person in Europe polutes way less, and consumes a smaller amount of oil than a single american. We also have quite some distances to cover, and some really shitty weather here too. I have waited on the schoolbus in -25 degrees celsius. In that moment I would have loved to have a heated car. You got it hot/cold we got it hot/cold. We also have quite some distances to drive. With other words the differences aren't that big. But USA still consumes way more oil than the rest of the world. Would have been natural that you consume some more, but it's not some more. It's way more. And then you add the fact that basicly any enviromental warning that comes from the rest of the world is pushed aside. International deals that want to do something with the enviromental development are not participated in. You start to wonder...
Only then will we wake up and do something about it.If its easy to get nothing gets done.When it starts to affect the way we live and prices go up on daily or weekly essentials something will get done.
Already people are using public transport and purchasing more fuel effeciant cars.Personally i think
its about time we got out of being held over an oil barrel by a region of the world that HATES us.
I say we do something in order to tell them they can drown in it.
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This is a lesson well learned...... We americans have enjoyed low gas prices much longer than our european and asian counterparts. We have lived in a fantasy world where everyone can drive any vehicle they choose regardless of its age or condition not to mention its emissions (I drive an 89 Bronco 4x4 that gets 8mpg....shame on me). Its about time we started taking responsibility for these actions either by paying for it at the pump or purchasing more efficient vehicles.
I intend to sell my truck and purchase either a compact car or a motorcycle. I suggest you all do the same.
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That's actually Fusion (on the back of his car the gadget was called "Mr. Fusion" if you remember correctly) and it hasn't been perfected yet. In the next 20 years I hope they do perfect Nuclear Fusion reactors as there is no possiblity of a meltdown. The worst that can happen is it leaks some radioactive plasma/gas.
You do realize that for anything to happen in this country it's got to be a pretty damn popular idea. Otherwise, no politician is going to back it. This is just another demonizing tactic used by the blowhards these days. By saying "environmentalist", you're most likely pointing the finger at your neighbor, or even yourself.
After all, how many people who fit into your seperatist "environmentalist" definition do you actually know? I hear the talk show hosts talk like their everywhere. Like there should be hippies and stoners falling on every tree in America in protest. And if they're so influential, then why don't you go ask them how they got so powerful. Instead of whining about how overwhelmed you are politically.
The fact is, nobody wants to see corporations completely rule environmental issues and have free reign. Whether you admit it or not, you know exactly what would happen. The people would be on their backs quicker than anything. Then you'd see how many "environmentalists" there really are. I bet you'd be there too. Especially when your kids and family started getting sick.
Now if you want to say, "the American people have been asleep at the wheel", then I think you'd get a lot of people on your side about doing something new. But when folks keep using these seperating tactics of blaming others then it's no wonder this country is split as bad as it is. Everyone is in defensive mode against everyone else.
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Some people think we need to find some new fuel besides gas.
It sounds so easy when you say something like it.
They already got the technology to create a new fuel for cars nowdays but what it is going to come down is.
Chicken or the Egg. Which came first? If you make cars that take the new fuel, nobody will buy the cars.
If you make gas stations that have the fuel, then nobody will buy the fuel.
What about both?
Nice idea that 90% of the folks that don't understand have come up with it.
If you make both, you will be confined to areas with the fuel only available. The new fuel for cars will not hit the continents like a meteor, it will take a long, long, long time.
Eventually, the car companies will go out of business for not selling any cars to keep up with the debit they're in, and same o, same o with the gas stations.
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<<God forbid we try and protect our environment how silly. I mean the environment is only thing we can live in and actually gives us life, surely its not a priority to keep healthy. This gas we feed the planet, the same type of gas people like commiting suicide too, probably isn't doing anything. The planet is just fine and dandy. >>
Oh please... don't start with the global warming garbage. Complete hogwash.
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Why do the "environmentalists" always come up when issues like this are brought to the table? Who the hell are these "environmentalists" that you and the right wing radio talk show hosts always bring up anyways?
You do realize that for anything to happen in this country it's got to be a pretty damn popular idea. Otherwise, no politician is going to back it. This is just another demonizing tactic used by the blowhards these days. By saying "environmentalist", you're most likely pointing the finger at your neighbor, or even yourself.
After all, how many people who fit into your seperatist "environmentalist" definition do you actually know? I hear the talk show hosts talk like their everywhere. Like there should be hippies and stoners falling on every tree in America in protest. And if they're so influential, then why don't you go ask them how they got so powerful. Instead of whining about how overwhelmed you are politically.
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The environmental lobby has indeed kept us from drilling and building refineries that we have needed for YEARS. Look at the whole ANWAR debate... they constantly oppose drilling there. Its absolutely ridiculous. To say that there is no environmental lobby, and that they don't try to thwart our energy expansion is just ignorant. No refineries built in 30 years due to the prohibitive regulations that they've gotten politicians to put in place. Its gotta stop.
<<The fact is, nobody wants to see corporations completely rule environmental issues and have free reign. Whether you admit it or not, you know exactly what would happen. The people would be on their backs quicker than anything. Then you'd see how many "environmentalists" there really are. I bet you'd be there too. Especially when your kids and family started getting sick.
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You are correct... we don't want to grant the corporations free reign to do whatever they want to the environment, but this situation has been building for a long time, and drilling in Alaska and building refineries are necessary for our civilization. Its one thing to hold thbig business accountable... its another completely to hold the country hostage through absurd regulation and obstruction.
<<Now if you want to say, "the American people have been asleep at the wheel", then I think you'd get a lot of people on your side about doing something new. But when folks keep using these seperating tactics of blaming others then it's no wonder this country is split as bad as it is. Everyone is in defensive mode against everyone else.>>
The American people have been asleep at the wheel... we definitely agree. I guess we also agree that the 'separating tactic' of blaming the oil companies profits for the situation we are in now is wrong. Correct?
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I think there is enough evidence from scientists to prove that global warming is VERY real.
Whether it's man's fault or not is a completely different debate.
I hope you're not trying to confuse the two arguments. Because if you don't think our planet is warming up then you just have your head in the sand.