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Its the most populair, so its bad.
Gameloading
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1: the endgame is nothing but raiding. Everquest had it, and people acted like its heaven on earth. WoW has it and its suddenly the worst thing since britney spears.
2 :pvp outside any kind of battlegrounds is pointless. when Daoc had pvp outside "battlegrounds" without consequences, it was brilliant. when WoW did it, it was suddenly the worst thing ever
3: Everquest had a long grind. WoW made a game with a less hard grind, and now its suddenly WAY to easy to hit the cap!
4: People complain about the forced quests. there are too many of them. however when they play RF Online or Lineage 2, it suddenly sucks because those games have to LITTLE quests.
5: WoW promised from the start to take all good things from other games and improve them. yet now people are suddenly complaining WoW didn't bring anything new to the genre.
my point? Its the most populair game, so everything in it must be bad. people just can't accept that a product that has more players then their game actually is of high quality for once.
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you have a point, but WoW's success is back by it's 1-59 game. It's simply perfect, that and the awesome name of Wacraft. I will be surprised if there are still 50 servers in 2 years.
i agree a little...
WoW drew a too large crowd too fast! what i mean is in the first few months bamm allready 2 mill players! it never built a good community or anything... just a random bunch of kids, thats y wow sucks!
if the exact same game as wow.. nuthing different at all was made, but without the name blizzard backing it up + the name "warcraft" in it well....
it would be a much better game! yes it will be less people playing it meaning less income but it will have a much better community! much much better!
Ehh no. The reason I vote down WoW is because I don't really understand why people play it. It's absolutely most popular due to being simple. People in majority don't stand playing advanced games.
There are tons of other stuff that makes people go on against WoW. Just learn them all and you will see. I dislike that everything has to be compared to WoW aswell, like it was the best game for everyone.
And then we have the WoW fanboys which enrages most players everywhere.
$OE lies list
http://www.rlmmo.com/viewtopic.php?t=424&start=0
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And I don't want to hear anything about "I don't believe in vampires" because *I* don't believe in vampires, but I believe in my own two eyes, and what *I* saw is ******* vampires! "
It's the most popular because it has the most content, the least bugs, and some sort of endgame content.
Not to mention the customer service is head and shoulders above everyone else. They rarely push bugs to live, and if they do.. it's fixed REALLY fast, and we're given free time to compensate. NC Soft does this as well, but few other companies do.
Quite frankly, it is the polar opposite of any $OE game.
Oh, and it's fun too.
Shayde - SWG (dead)
Proud member of the Cabal.
It sounds great, so great in fact, I pitty those who canceled
I don't like it when you say things. - A Vanguard fan who does too.
09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0
Precisely, fun as in "simple" where things happen fast and it's highly pitched and you never see any dawnfalls upon your mistakes.
Fun as in knowing the entire game and getting a feeling of that you are part of the game.
Just as I said.
$OE lies list
http://www.rlmmo.com/viewtopic.php?t=424&start=0
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And I don't want to hear anything about "I don't believe in vampires" because *I* don't believe in vampires, but I believe in my own two eyes, and what *I* saw is ******* vampires! "
Expansion: New models (race included), instances (model in a sense), items ( model in a sense).
Basically only new models.
And your fantastical perfect game exists where exactly? Sure as hell doesn't exist now.
And the person who claimed that WoW was "slapped together" could kindly point me to a better launched, bugless, and more content filled game, I'd love to hear it.
Shayde - SWG (dead)
Proud member of the Cabal.
It sounds great, so great in fact, I pitty those who canceled
I don't like it when you say things. - A Vanguard fan who does too.
09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0
Umm I never said anything about any "fantastical perfect games".
WoW runs smooth, because they had the money, time and team to launch it like that. Most companies doesn't. Blizzard has very much power on that part due to their extreme experience with games. Others might have to launch because timelines runs short or because their teams cannot fix the problems in time.
$OE lies list
http://www.rlmmo.com/viewtopic.php?t=424&start=0
"
And I don't want to hear anything about "I don't believe in vampires" because *I* don't believe in vampires, but I believe in my own two eyes, and what *I* saw is ******* vampires! "
WoW runs smooth, because they had the money, time and team to launch it like that. Most companies doesn't. Blizzard has very much power on that part due to their extreme experience with games. Others might have to launch because timelines runs short or because their teams cannot fix the problems in time.
$OE has more money than anyone.. and had thrown more money into ALL their games than Bliz did WoW. All $OE's games have been bug-filled messes that they screw up more than they fix.
WoW did it right. Now you FAULT them for it?
Shayde - SWG (dead)
Proud member of the Cabal.
It sounds great, so great in fact, I pitty those who canceled
I don't like it when you say things. - A Vanguard fan who does too.
09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0
Umm I never said anything about any "fantastical perfect games".
WoW runs smooth, because they had the money, time and team to launch it like that. Most companies doesn't. Blizzard has very much power on that part due to their extreme experience with games. Others might have to launch because timelines runs short or because their teams cannot fix the problems in time.
Timelines run short? Everyone has a timeframe they want to have the project done by. Difference between BLizzard and soem other games is....Blizzard will push it back to maek sure the game is done correctly.
Also , team could not fix the problem so they launched it anyway? Same thing here....Blizzard will push back releases to get it done right.
And last but not least , money? Last time I checked, Sony had a shitload of money its ripped off its customers from games such as SWG.
WOW isnt the best game, but it runs damn smooth because they wanted it to. Other companies could do the same thing.....they just choose not to.
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What doesn't kill you makes you stronger.
Game On!
I don't want to burst your bubble, but what you EQ2 players have to pay extra for, we get for free with the monthly fee, as it should be. we get one expansion that will have more content then 3 Everquest 2's expansions combined. at least we get what we pay for, can't say that about $oe's EQ2, with its "adventure packs" and "expansions", and at least the WoW developers know what kind of game they want, where $OE keeps launching revamp after revamp, hoping it will be right one time.
Since release, we have received the honor system, high end dungeons, more skills,more area's, more quests and lots of more items,and the Battlegrounds,weather effects, and upcomming outposts that can be controlled by factions, all for no extra charge. $OE would have let you pay another $50 for half of that.
I don't want to burst your bubble, but what you EQ2 players have to pay extra for, we get for free with the monthly fee, as it should be. we get one expansion that will have more content then 3 Everquest 2's expansions combined. at least we get what we pay for, can't say that about $oe's EQ2, with its "adventure packs" and "expansions", and at least the WoW developers know what kind of game they want, where $OE keeps launching revamp after revamp, hoping it will be right one time.
So you get a new starting city, over 300 new zones, over four new 40+ raid instances and new wepaons and armour able to behold such attonements WITHOUT grinding for them for weeks and weeks? I'm impressed. However, you get what you pay for, there's a reason why your content is free... because it's crap.
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What doesn't kill you makes you stronger.
Game On!
I don't want to burst your bubble, but what you EQ2 players have to pay extra for, we get for free with the monthly fee, as it should be. we get one expansion that will have more content then 3 Everquest 2's expansions combined. at least we get what we pay for, can't say that about $oe's EQ2, with its "adventure packs" and "expansions", and at least the WoW developers know what kind of game they want, where $OE keeps launching revamp after revamp, hoping it will be right one time.
So you get a new starting city, over 300 new zones, over four new 40+ raid instances and new wepaons and armour able to behold such attonements WITHOUT grinding for them for weeks and weeks? I'm impressed. However, you get what you pay for, there's a reason why your content is free... because it's crap.
Compared to Everquest 2's content, WoW is heaven where EQ2 wouldn't even be good enough for hell. WoW grinding? WoW's grind is a walk in the park compared to EQ2's boring grind besides, at least WE get the content thats promised to us, and its FINISHED. again an area where $OE fails. Froglok quest anyone? you forgot something, WoW players get what we pay for, Everquest 2 pay for things that they shouldn't even have to pay for to start with.
I don't want to burst your bubble, but what you EQ2 players have to pay extra for, we get for free with the monthly fee, as it should be. we get one expansion that will have more content then 3 Everquest 2's expansions combined. at least we get what we pay for, can't say that about $oe's EQ2, with its "adventure packs" and "expansions", and at least the WoW developers know what kind of game they want, where $OE keeps launching revamp after revamp, hoping it will be right one time.
So you get a new starting city, over 300 new zones, over four new 40+ raid instances and new wepaons and armour able to behold such attonements WITHOUT grinding for them for weeks and weeks? I'm impressed. However, you get what you pay for, there's a reason why your content is free... because it's crap.
Compared to Everquest 2's content, WoW is heaven where EQ2 wouldn't even be good enough for hell. WoW grinding? WoW's grind is a walk in the park compared to EQ2's boring grind besides, at least WE get the content thats promised to us, and its FINISHED. again an area where $OE fails. Froglok quest anyone? you forgot something, WoW players get what we pay for, Everquest 2 pay for things that they shouldn't even have to pay for to start with.
You get SERVED content like little babies. EQ2 is a serious MMORPG. SOE presents us a challenge with offering us to work for our content, something we enjoy because it drives to motivation. If you don't want to work for content, then dont, yet later that content will always be unlocked through world events. WoW is an ultimate n00b fest, you get baby fed and nursed by Blizzard. EQ2 players grind for exp, WoW grinds to FIND GAMEPLAY. Most of WoW's content is stolen from great games of the past like UO and EQ. Unoriginality seems to be the new black for Blizzard.
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What doesn't kill you makes you stronger.
Game On!
I don't want to burst your bubble, but what you EQ2 players have to pay extra for, we get for free with the monthly fee, as it should be. we get one expansion that will have more content then 3 Everquest 2's expansions combined. at least we get what we pay for, can't say that about $oe's EQ2, with its "adventure packs" and "expansions", and at least the WoW developers know what kind of game they want, where $OE keeps launching revamp after revamp, hoping it will be right one time.
So you get a new starting city, over 300 new zones, over four new 40+ raid instances and new wepaons and armour able to behold such attonements WITHOUT grinding for them for weeks and weeks? I'm impressed. However, you get what you pay for, there's a reason why your content is free... because it's crap.
Compared to Everquest 2's content, WoW is heaven where EQ2 wouldn't even be good enough for hell. WoW grinding? WoW's grind is a walk in the park compared to EQ2's boring grind besides, at least WE get the content thats promised to us, and its FINISHED. again an area where $OE fails. Froglok quest anyone? you forgot something, WoW players get what we pay for, Everquest 2 pay for things that they shouldn't even have to pay for to start with.
You get SERVED content like little babies. EQ2 is a serious MMORPG. SOE presents us a challenge with offering us to work for our content, something we enjoy because it drives to motivation. If you don't want to work for content, then dont, yet later that content will always be unlocked through world events. WoW is an ultimate n00b fest, you get baby fed and nursed by Blizzard. EQ2 players grind for exp, WoW grinds to FIND GAMEPLAY. Most of WoW's content is stolen from great games of the past like UO and EQ. Unoriginality seems to be the new black for Blizzard.
Thats rich comming from someone who plays Everquest 2. WoW indeed copied of other games, LIKE THEY SAID FROM THE START. and the best thing? the improved it, somewhere Everquest 2 is clearly failed,despite being an even worse clone then WoW.. WoW is based on fun, something $OE forgot to add to Everquest 2. in wow, its about the actual play experience, in EQ2 all that matters is:"ZOMG MUST GET TO NEXT LVL!!!". we don't have to grind for hours and hours. oh, you think we don't have to work for our content? The Ahn-Qiraj event required the whole server, of both factions, to work together to open the gates for months. and geuss what, it was actually implanted when they announced it, were $OE announced the froglok quest was in the game months before they actually implant it, making people search for the way to unlock it for nothing because it wasn't there, just to get more money. you won't see crap like that happen at Blizzard.
I don't want to burst your bubble, but what you EQ2 players have to pay extra for, we get for free with the monthly fee, as it should be. we get one expansion that will have more content then 3 Everquest 2's expansions combined. at least we get what we pay for, can't say that about $oe's EQ2, with its "adventure packs" and "expansions", and at least the WoW developers know what kind of game they want, where $OE keeps launching revamp after revamp, hoping it will be right one time.
So you get a new starting city, over 300 new zones, over four new 40+ raid instances and new wepaons and armour able to behold such attonements WITHOUT grinding for them for weeks and weeks? I'm impressed. However, you get what you pay for, there's a reason why your content is free... because it's crap.
Compared to Everquest 2's content, WoW is heaven where EQ2 wouldn't even be good enough for hell. WoW grinding? WoW's grind is a walk in the park compared to EQ2's boring grind besides, at least WE get the content thats promised to us, and its FINISHED. again an area where $OE fails. Froglok quest anyone? you forgot something, WoW players get what we pay for, Everquest 2 pay for things that they shouldn't even have to pay for to start with.
You get SERVED content like little babies. EQ2 is a serious MMORPG. SOE presents us a challenge with offering us to work for our content, something we enjoy because it drives to motivation. If you don't want to work for content, then dont, yet later that content will always be unlocked through world events. WoW is an ultimate n00b fest, you get baby fed and nursed by Blizzard. EQ2 players grind for exp, WoW grinds to FIND GAMEPLAY. Most of WoW's content is stolen from great games of the past like UO and EQ. Unoriginality seems to be the new black for Blizzard.
Thats rich comming from someone who plays Everquest 2. WoW indeed copied of other games, LIKE THEY SAID FROM THE START. and the best thing? the improved it, somewhere Everquest 2 is clearly failed,despite being an even worse clone then WoW.. WoW is based on fun, something $OE forgot to add to Everquest 2. in wow, its about the actual play experience, in EQ2 all that matters is:"ZOMG MUST GET TO NEXT LVL!!!". we don't have to grind for hours and hours. oh, you think we don't have to work for our content? The Ahn-Qiraj event required the whole server, of both factions, to work together to open the gates for months. and geuss what, it was actually implanted when they announced it, were $OE announced the froglok quest was in the game months before they actually implant it, making people search for the way to unlock it for nothing because it wasn't there, just to get more money. you won't see crap like that happen at Blizzard.
Like I said: Unoriginality seems to be the new black for Blizzard.
WoW has yet to amaze millions of TRUE MMORPGers. Has it amazed millions already? Yeh, but lets not count the populace who stole credit crds from his mum's purse and ISN'T under 18. Cheers. My work here is done. I've upset a 12yo.
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What doesn't kill you makes you stronger.
Game On!
Played a rogue to lvl 60 on PVP server, it was my first MMORPG, I loved it because it was new, but only now when I stoped playing it and lloking around for something new have I found that all that is WOW good in is taking those ideas that have prooven themslfes in other MMORPG and putting them in the same place catering to the widest audience and therefor having no real identity. puff puff
ok then, I think it's a good game, GAME, and I hate it now only because I loved it when I started playing, and because I don't wanna be forced to do 40+raids and instanced BG's to have funn (but remember, ME, I said that I hate then, it doesent neceseraly have to be bad)
Curently, I play EVE.