Guild Wars 3 - hints from E3

auryx

Hey all,

Did everyone see the IGN article from their E3 coverage which gives some tasters of the next installment of Guild Wars? It already sounds cool. Read the article here:

http://uk.pc.ign.com/articles/708/708116p1.html



auryx

exanimo

/CLAP

thanks much for that

Elnator

Good lord.

LOL I can tell I'm going to be way behind on expansions before long   Still enjoying the heck out of Prophecies so I haven't even picked up factions yet   Now they're working on a 3rd? 

auryx

Not just chapter 3....they're also working on chapter 4! At the same time!  Looks like they're planning on releasing new chapters 6 months apart, but have two separate development teams working at the same time.

There's more info in this GameSpy article, which is longer than the other one I posted:

http://uk.pc.gamespy.com/pc/guild-wars-3/708178p1.html

auryx

Atomicus

i thought guild wars was suppose to be free? I noticed the expansion is the same price as buying the original; $49.99. Wonder if there going to eventually lead players to need the next chapter in order to continue playing with their friends or guilds.

auryx

Well, it is free in the sense that there is no monthly fee. However, you still need to pay upfront for the game itself, or buy a license online.

As for needing the next chapter to play with friends, can't see this becoming a problem except if you want to share PvE missions in one particular setting, in which case you'd both need that new chapter. But hell, if you're a fan like me, you'll probably buy 'em all anyway

auryx

Tigercha

Sounds great, Hope they release this one within six months, I hate having to play WoW between expansions, I dont mind PvP but I could not play it day in and day out every day between expansions.

Atomicus

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Originally posted by auryx
Well, it is free in the sense that there is no monthly fee. However, you still need to pay upfront for the game itself, or buy a license online.

As for needing the next chapter to play with friends, can't see this becoming a problem except if you want to share PvE missions in one particular setting, in which case you'd both need that new chapter. But hell, if you're a fan like me, you'll probably buy 'em all anyway

auryx

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If you tend to buy them all then you would be essentially paying a 6 month fee to play the game, as so it is rumored to be released.

Elnator

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Originally posted by Atomicus

Originally posted by auryx
Well, it is free in the sense that there is no monthly fee. However, you still need to pay upfront for the game itself, or buy a license online.

As for needing the next chapter to play with friends, can't see this becoming a problem except if you want to share PvE missions in one particular setting, in which case you'd both need that new chapter. But hell, if you're a fan like me, you'll probably buy 'em all anyway

auryx

If you tend to buy them all then you would be essentially paying a 6 month fee to play the game, as so it is rumored to be released.

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Hmm.... $15 a month for WoW (which sucks) or...
$50 every 6-8 months for a fully stand-alone Guild Wars Game...

$50/6 = $8 a month
$50/8 = $6 a month.

And that's only if you actually buy the expansions right when they come out   Or at all for that matter   Nothing is forcing anyone to BUY the expansions, each one is a separate and stand-alone game.   You can buy any or all of them or only 1.... doesn't matter.  If your friend wants to play with you you will both need to have the same expansion, but other than that there's nothing forcing you to buy any other expansions. 

And, besides, you're going to have to pay for the WoW expansion   Or had you forgotten that?  So not only are you paying for a monthly fee in WoW, you get the added pleasure of having to buy the expansion content from them on top of it

Me?  I'd rather have an optional expansion every 6 months than a mandatory $15 a month fee just to log in   Hell.... just to patch the damn game

VGJustice

And how often is it that with a monthly payment that you get additional content on the magnitude of another game?

Guild Wars: Pay $50 for each instalment (by choice) and recieve additional content with each purchase.

WoW: Pay $15 every month with no additional content added, then get forced to buy every expantion (not by choice)

It doesn't take much math to figure out which is the better value.

Aseenus

interesting... i dont care much for missions, i do however wanna see the new types of pvp it might bring as well as how the new content will affect pvp!

we still havnt seen how factions classes have affected pvp that much yet.. whatch how much affect on pvp assassins + rits are gonna have... people are still developing builds for em :P

Athame

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Originally posted by VGJustice
And how often is it that with a monthly payment that you get additional content on the magnitude of another game?

Guild Wars: Pay $50 for each instalment (by choice) and recieve additional content with each purchase.

WoW: Pay $15 every month with no additional content added, then get forced to buy every expantion (not by choice)

It doesn't take much math to figure out which is the better value.

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Yep yep yep. Always something new and different with GW. It helps to do it as a guild tho. I mean, well you know what I mean. I've played alotta games with my guild and this one is fun fun fun! Wow almost split us apart because noone was ever the same level or we got bored too fast haha

FeyRegy

thx for that

Tigercha

let me see I paid £29 for the first installment 12 months ago for Guild Wars and then I paid £24 for factions but I also pay £9 per month for my WoW account which I am not using at present as I am playing Factions, and I cannot really suspend my account for a few months I need to continue paying it.

 Bliz are now getting geared for the Burning Crusade which I imagine I should be able to buy for £30, So why am I buying an expansion when I have played and paid, why is this not free content, after all I paid for the box when I bought it and it cost me £39 and I got a month free, then I paid every subsequent month.

Am I missing something here what the feck was the WoW fanboi's point or has he forgoton he paid for the box set origionally then paid every month and very soon he will be paying for his expansion, although as may be contested its not really nessesary, but neither is Factions, but I didnt have to pay every month to subsidise an expansion pack that I have bought.

tod77

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Originally posted by VGJustice
And how often is it that with a monthly payment that you get additional content on the magnitude of another game?

Guild Wars: Pay $50 for each instalment (by choice) and recieve additional content with each purchase.

WoW: Pay $15 every month with no additional content added, then get forced to buy every expantion (not by choice)

It doesn't take much math to figure out which is the better value.

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You can pay £17.99 for GW factions over here from amazon or play which is around $34 so it could be cheaper form other online stores, sorry I've never played WOW so I haven't got an opinion on it but a no monthly fee was one of the reason's I bought factions

paranoidpvp

Geez... NCSoft is going wat too fast for me O_o I just started getting into the story line of factions. Between that and PvP the only thing i'll be able to enjoy before long is the new armor and skills! 3 cheers for A-Net and NC though!

Navonod_7

I think every 6 months is a little much, if they were to release one a year that would players to finish, go back and do all of the stuff they skipped, enjoy some of the new features and PvP. I think they are just capitalizing on a good franchise. They need to watch it or they will ruin the GW name.  Hopefully they don't just slap on a new coat of paint and actually make something truly uniique and not just a variation of variouos featrues.

exanimo

well , there are all kinds of player , for the hardcore 6 months is not that much

for us casual players , might seem a litle too much

i really like thet fact that new chapter comes every 6 months

its amazing what they did to guildwars with factions ... i cant w8 to see what next are they going to do

/excited

Kraptor

Where i live it costs only $30 and the collectors was round 55. I was surprised about the price, cause usually games are more expensive here then in the US or UK.

Gameloading

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Originally posted by VGJustice

WoW: Pay $15 every month with no additional content added, then get forced to buy every expantion (not by choice)

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You might want to look up the patch notes, its called WoW V1.10.2 for a REASON. you actually DO get additional content added.

Tigercha

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Originally posted by Gameloading

Originally posted by VGJustice

WoW: Pay $15 every month with no additional content added, then get forced to buy every expantion (not by choice)

You might want to look up the patch notes, its called WoW V1.10.2 for a REASON. you actually DO get additional content added.

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I dont really want to start a WoW chat in this forum BUT; in all fairness he did mention volume of new content and not just the word content, as you know as well as I do most of these patches are tweeks, the last big patch was the priest love patch and the major patch before that was the Druid love patch, they have added a few more end game instances, but I think they should really havent done as much as they should have, one example of this is the Druid missions and my Druid lore content, seriously the game is not even close to being finished, they used our monthy subcription to fund the new expansion in my opinion.

Mikes123

well i played WoW........ and know what? if they had not added new content i might still be playing it :P

what did they add? 3 raid dungeons with gear with that s so incredibly higher than anything else available that it basically destroyed any semblance of PvP balance for players that aren t hardcore raiders.

eh and since they are already following the same path that Everquest took now, i bet the new expansion will be balanced for the raidgeared player too, leaving everyone else to level up to 70 in the old areas.

so did they add content? yes, was it a lot? no, but you have to repeat it over and over to get über gear or suck at PvP and be disadvantaged in PvE.

WoW could have been a truly good game, if they hadn t pulled a 180° halfway trough their development and subscribed to all the Everquest-garbage philosophy of what an MMO has to be like at the "Endgame."

Dookz

I can't imagine Anet making new classes for each chapter they release especially within a 6-9 month time frame. IMO, it's a bit too much if you still want to invest some time playing your older prophecies characters. I ask myself what will happen to outposts and mission in prophecies, if they dont readvertise and refresh when chapter 4 rolls by, those areas become barren. For the existing prophecies professions, I would like to see more than new skills, and armors. I don't know what it is but I hope its something that will keep an interest in playing that character just as much as the new professions.

fgauer

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Originally posted by Mikes123
well i played WoW........ and know what? if they had not added new content i might still be playing it :P

what did they add? 3 raid dungeons with gear with that s so incredibly higher than anything else available that it basically destroyed any semblance of PvP balance for players that aren t hardcore raiders.

eh and since they are already following the same path that Everquest took now, i bet the new expansion will be balanced for the raidgeared player too, leaving everyone else to level up to 70 in the old areas.

so did they add content? yes, was it a lot? no, but you have to repeat it over and over to get über gear or suck at PvP and be disadvantaged in PvE.

WoW could have been a truly good game, if they hadn t pulled a 180° halfway trough their development and subscribed to all the Everquest-garbage philosophy of what an MMO has to be like at the "Endgame."

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/AGREED Mikes123 - which is why I quit WoW as well...

As far as paying for the game/expansions go - hey, these guys have to make money - it's just how the world works. Making/creating/maintaining these games is mind-numbingly HARD WORK - and the programmers/developers/artists etc. have families to feed...etc.

The one thing about the expansion pack model of revenue (i.e. without the monthly fee) is I think they have to work harder for your money. If the expansions are not up to par or sub-standard then nobody is going to run out and buy the next expansion. I think the monthly-fee model promotes a bit of laziness on the part of the developers of those games because they have a monthly revenue stream already coming in...

...i dunno - just an opinion... 

Vyava

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Originally posted by neoteo

well , there are all kinds of player , for the hardcore 6 months is not that much
for us casual players , might seem a litle too much
i really like thet fact that new chapter comes every 6 months
its amazing what they did to guildwars with factions ... i cant w8 to see what next are they going to do
/excited

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If they start 6 month expansions I doubt I wilkl keep up personally. One $50 box a year is roughly $4 a month, $8 month is more than I would pay for GW. It isn't my main game though. Considering how active the game is now I don't think 6 month expansions will make it that much mroe successful, actually could hinder it.

Went to a snooker tourney last night and you wouldn't believe the number of people who had GW on their computer. Not talking under 30 year olds either. A few of the retired crowd loved it also (oddly enough they also seem to like CoH, dunno why). However most hadn't gotten factions yet because they didn't feel bored with the original release. A good bulk of the GW customer base is not the hardcore player taht will finish the expansion content before the next is out.

exanimo

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Originally posted by Vyava

Originally posted by neoteo
well , there are all kinds of player , for the hardcore 6 months is not that much
for us casual players , might seem a litle too much
i really like thet fact that new chapter comes every 6 months
its amazing what they did to guildwars with factions ... i cant w8 to see what next are they going to do
/excitedIf they start 6 month expansions I doubt I wilkl keep up personally. One $50 box a year is roughly $4 a month, $8 month is more than I would pay for GW. It isn't my main game though. Considering how active the game is now I don't think 6 month expansions will make it that much mroe successful, actually could hinder it.Went to a snooker tourney last night and you wouldn't believe the number of people who had GW on their computer. Not talking under 30 year olds either. A few of the retired crowd loved it also (oddly enough they also seem to like CoH, dunno why). However most hadn't gotten factions yet because they didn't feel bored with the original release. A good bulk of the GW customer base is not the hardcore player taht will finish the expansion content before the next is out.

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i agree , i will buy them all at release becose , yes i am a fan ( call me crazy , yesterday i had a dream i was having dinner with the people from anet , thats how much i respect them )

its also true , you dont have to buy them if you dont want to

you can skip some chapers , you dont need to own 2 to have 3 , or 4 to have 1 ...

im one of those that let some stuff to do later , i dont want to do it all at the same time , even i rush some parts , i let some quests and areas to explore

i still have The Titan Source Quest to do in prophecies , i know i will do it .. someday

adding factions did what i was expecting and more , if this is waht will hapan everytime a chpater comes , i will run the same way to the store 2 months before the release date.