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  • MITSoxFanMITSoxFan Member Posts: 92
    Xanth is saying that some people like the taste of rotten poo. While others prefer to simply make fun of those who prefer to eat rotten poo.

    So, just consider the analogy of eating rotten poo to that of playing SoG/DnL, and I think it'll begin to make sense what he means.


  • XanthXanth Member UncommonPosts: 51


    Originally posted by MITSoxFan
    Xanth is saying that some people like the taste of rotten poo. While others prefer to simply make fun of those who prefer to eat rotten poo.

    So, just consider the analogy of eating rotten poo to that of playing SoG/DnL, and I think it'll begin to make sense what he means.




    Eloquent and original I'll give you that but not what I was going for.  In any event Socks, even based on your analogy, what do you gain from making fun of those who prefer to eat rotten poo?  My question was to give me valid and tangible reasons why and what you might gain from doing so.

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  • ZorbaneZorbane Member UncommonPosts: 529



    Originally posted by Xanth

    Eloquent and original I'll give you that but not what I was going for.  In any event Socks, even based on your analogy, what do you gain from making fun of those who prefer to eat rotten poo?  My question was to give me valid and tangible reasons why and what you might gain from doing so.




    Well people have told them its rotten poo.  It looks and smells like rotten poo.  Yet they say its the perfect meal.

    When that happens you kinda just stare and start gossiping about it

  • XanthXanth Member UncommonPosts: 51


    Originally posted by Zorbane




    Originally posted by Xanth
    Eloquent and original I'll give you that but not what I was going for.  In any event Socks, even based on your analogy, what do you gain from making fun of those who prefer to eat rotten poo?  My question was to give me valid and tangible reasons why and what you might gain from doing so.




    Well people have told them its rotten poo.  It looks and smells like rotten poo.  Yet they say its the perfect meal.

    When that happens you kinda just stare and start gossiping about it


    And staring at rotten poo is a gain in your book?  Zorbane you seem to forget that I was a very big voice against SOG's release in the beginning as well as towards the end.  You would have to search back but I think you'll find numerous posts where I saying it would have been better to shut it down than to let this massacre go forward.  I also believe I asked them next time to send me a `box of shit` because I'm sure I could find something better to do with it than what I got in the release of SoG (oh yes, it's still there I'm sure of it)

    Did I dwell on it?  Sure for a bit as personally I felt robbed of dreams this game came out of the gates with but I got over it soon enough.  My overall point however is deep down all those here who bitch and moan are just personally upset this didn't turn out they way they wanted or expected.  Life is like this and you better get used to it quick or you'll just constantly be angry.  I honestly feel that many felt naked after finding out they put much blind faith into something and it didn't pan out.  I did.  As you know, you personally sent me a PM on the forums, asked about cancelling my pioneer accounts for this very reason.  Anger leads to depression and to the point where you say `screw it` and start to get over it and heal up.  This seems to not have happened in the majority of posters here.

    Now I'm no psychologist but gut feeling tells me most still care about the game and what it potentially could be which is where *most* of the anger manifests itself.  It's really the anger at one's self for feeling they've been taken and blindsided that manifests in hate instead of recognition of the real problem; anger for ones self.  I'm sorry many of you have been let down.  I'm sorry many feel the need to hate.  I just wish to better anyone who has this complex because honestly it's a game and life isn't what you get from it, it's what you make of it and this constant bashing, flaming and moaning is just evidence you care.

    I work in an manufacturing IT office within the worlds largest automotive parts supplier (Delphi Automotive).  I live daily with corporate policy, nobodies who think they are somebody and the jock fresh from college who thinks they can conquer the world.  I've seen too many of my fellow associates just give up caring and figure what ever happens, happens and they have no control.  I on the other hand get furious and fight the system and get angry and upset when dipshits pull dipshit moves and at first I started to think it was me.  The more and more I realized what was happening I could easily identify that I DO care about my job, my software, my coding styles, my associates and when the anger manifests it's just proof that I do care.  Why get angry if you don't care, right?

    Question is still on, what do you gain?


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  • ZorbaneZorbane Member UncommonPosts: 529

    Uh thanks for your life story

    And I didn't say staring at rotten poo

    I meant staring at the people eating it and calling it a divine gift.  It's like "lolwtf?"

    Hm i don't remmeber sending youa PM you sure it was me?  I wouldn't have pmed you about it unless you had asked.

  • XanthXanth Member UncommonPosts: 51


    Originally posted by Zorbane

    Uh thanks for your life story
    And I didn't say staring at rotten poo
    I meant staring at the people eating it and calling it a divine gift.  It's like "lolwtf?"
    Hm i don't remmeber sending youa PM you sure it was me?  I wouldn't have pmed you about it unless you had asked.


    Oh IC but again what do you gain, other than some personal pleasure, watching others calling rotten poo a divine gift?  This is getting away from the question with the poo analogy but...

    Yes I asked in open forums, you replied and it got locked/deleted.  If you don't mind I'll post it below but if you do let me know and I'll remove it.  I must have deleted the original but here is my reply to your PM.  Sorry formatting is whacked, comes over as black text, white to show text...

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    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Zorbane

    www.clickandbuy.com

    email them about getting a
    refund
    If they're being bitches phone them

    if they say that you need
    to contact farlan about it, its a lie because lots of people went throguh
    CnB.

    farlan will just ignroe the emails or send canned responses about
    other stuff


    Thanks.



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  • Thor79Thor79 Member Posts: 96


    Originally posted by Zorbane
    Uh thanks for your life story

    translation: he couldn't be bothered to read all of it...

    and notice how they refuse to answer you well put together poll Xanth?

    they do care about the game they just refuse to admit it...

    which is probably why we'll see most of them in game at some point after release...

    and if there are Customer Only forums (whether they are public readable or not) they'll probably be complaining there too...showing that they did indeed pay for the game despite their hate...

  • ZorbaneZorbane Member UncommonPosts: 529


    Originally posted by Xanth

    Oh IC but again what do you gain, other than some personal pleasure, watching others calling rotten poo a divine gift?  This is getting away from the question with the poo analogy but...

    Yes I asked in open forums, you replied and it got locked/deleted.  If you don't mind I'll post it below but if you do let me know and I'll remove it.  I must have deleted the original but here is my reply to your PM.  Sorry formatting is whacked, comes over as black text, white to show text...




    Ah yeah I had deleted my PMs got filled up with warnings from the mods.  I don't mind that being there btw.  you can see its legit too because of my typos

    @thor

    I did read it, I just thought the thing was just out of place.  As for the original point of Xanth's post I think we've lost it in all the poop analogies

    EDIT: Removed the PM thing, it messed it up

  • XanthXanth Member UncommonPosts: 51


    Originally posted by Zorbane





    Ah yeah I had deleted my PMs got filled up with warnings from the mods.  I don't mind that being there btw.  you can see its legit too because of my typos

    @thor

    I did read it, I just thought the thing was just out of place.  As for the original point of Xanth's post I think we've lost it in all the poop analogies

    EDIT: Removed the PM thing, it messed it up



    Yes poop analogies can only go so far but not for my two boys... Glad you don't mind about the PM.. I knew you sent it to me



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  • CholaynaCholayna Member Posts: 1,604

     Of course I didn't have to reply but then again what would you all do if you didnt' have something/one to hate?  Maybe actually become responsible individuals in society instead of wating for something most elude to hating yet spend more time than most talking about.  Again, I'm sure it's just a generational thing.

    omfg!  A savior here for all of us to asspire to.!!! The killing will end, the cancer is cured, omfg! At last!

     Ya know what gets me? Why is it you simply dont understand that this game and the forums, especially ones like this, are why we are still here too. You forgot that part. Its just soooo damned amusing and addictive to see the bald faced lies and flat out rotten poo that Farlan is trying to pass off.(goobers anyone?) 

     Seems to me the "anger inside us" is a lame analysis at best,( I suppose all the other posters at the latest interview thread http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/79016 are all psychologically unbalanced as well )  however it does much to perhaps display the actions of one who seems bent on insulting everyone who nitpicks and points out the bald faced flat out lies . It also appears that you too have fallen under the oh so addictive act of checking out and spewing hate on this board so its only logical that the analysis you apply to us could therefore be applied right back at you! WOW!

    I suppose if we all thot the poop was as glorious as Farlan tries to pass off to make a few bucks then we would allllll be highly intelligent, mature, a little older like you (although once again you ASSume much here, it may very well surprise you how old many of us "anger within" ppl are). Pure sanctimonious bs. And btw, there is an extra seat along the wall, complete with soda holder and a bag of popcorn on the house.

    p.s. just a little reminder of a previous post by you:

     Many of the server issues seen in SoG were gone before half of it's life so this is more of a closed beta for those who've already played. (hmmmm, seems the hatebois were right again...server issues closed the test down! yep server issues fixed alright. LOL)

    Cheers to you all however you feel about me but vindication tastes much, MUCH better than the crow many are choking down now.  It's ok, you don't have to say anything -- your silence speaks volumes (LOL what?? he talking to himself??? he posted this and expected an answer while he was typing it? even the cuts dont make much sense. I do have to ask however, when ya serving the crow? getting hungry!)

    I will end this on the same statement that was made to BS (Blacksac) -- People just arent gonna shut up about Farlans lies, the misleading statements, the sleazy manipulations, the cheezy excuses, the incompetent devs, the lousy server, the game that is hyped to unreal and cultlike zeal, the lalaland bright colored world of the fanbois who cant stand the truth, nor the predicted, expected and laughable ppl complaining about the complainers.

    You see? Its just toooo much fun! And the whole game and its fans, and devs and mods alll make it a pretty dang good show. Doesnt matter how many times you insult ppl, doesnt matter how many times you try to argue simple semantics, doesnt matter at all. People are just not gonna shut up about it.

  • CholaynaCholayna Member Posts: 1,604


    Originally posted by MITSoxFan
    Xanth is saying that some people like the taste of rotten poo. While others prefer to simply make fun of those who prefer to eat rotten poo.

    So, just consider the analogy of eating rotten poo to that of playing SoG/DnL, and I think it'll begin to make sense what he means.


    does rotten poo taste like crow? or is it the other way around?
  • XanthXanth Member UncommonPosts: 51
    Cholayna,

      Again, what do you gain based on my original questions?  I don't want to hear how bad Farlan is how much they lie and how much they've hurt you.  I want to know what you gain by constantly sitting here moaning and groaning about a game you despise and self admittedly `don't care` about.



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  • SigneSigne Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 2,524
    All righty, then.  The poo analogies have cleared up my confusion although I now have the compulsion to constantly brush my teeth.  I'm sure that's a good thing... at least my dentist won't complain.

  • IKShadowIKShadow Member UncommonPosts: 783

    Xanth its just no point asking that.

    On all forums/games there is minority of people which have nothing better to do than to moan.

    Great example is Dark and Light, they have more than 300.000 registered users and most of them are very disapointed how things was handled by Farlan/NP3. ( sad but true)
    As you can see on this and other forums there is quite less than 30 people which constantly moan all other just move on or still have hopes.

    So as you can see those 0.01% of people will constantly  be here and even if they close Dark and Light after few months those people will have hard time to move on for quite some time. ( example: mouring forums )

    So its best to accept it and if you have spare time to make their day with your optimisitc posts here and on other forums.

    To tell you the truth, you can get that diffrend point of view (in most cases bannable on all offical game forums ) and have some great discusions.

    Be ware if you take it to personal you will be screwed, couse some of them will try to turn out everything extremly negative.

    At least if this game turn out great we will have good time ( I had very good time in SoG already, but it was major disapoitment for most people ) and that 0.01% eh I feel sorry for them.

    I rather have hope than to stick around and moan how disapointed Iam how they screwed me etc...
    If I ever loose hope for it, I probably will make some post about (its human to get out frustration )it and move on.

    p.s. Have a nice day and see you in Dark and Light.

    Futilez[Do You Have What It Takes ?]

  • PeaCeePeaCee Member Posts: 67
    Its funny how the dark and light fanbois remind me of a sect, I wouldnt be suprised if one of them proclaimed farlan is going to take them to their home planet in their inter-dimensinonal spaceship they built with the money from sog...
       


  • MITSoxFanMITSoxFan Member Posts: 92


    Originally posted by Xanth
    Cholayna,

      Again, what do you gain based on my original questions?  I don't want to hear how bad Farlan is how much they lie and how much they've hurt you.  I want to know what you gain by constantly sitting here moaning and groaning about a game you despise and self admittedly `don't care` about.





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    I can answer that, and it won't even require the word poo, although, it's a tempting word to use.

    Basically, I'm here to see Farlan fail, so I can laugh at them as their POS game catches fire, burns to the ground, and sinks into the smelly swamp of lies they have created.

    Why? Because they deserve it.

    And why to we constantly flame (or seem to flame) those of you who support it? Because we were once in your shoes (well, most of us) at some point in the past. Hell, I bought a Pioneer account! Some people just take longer to realize the truth about things.

    And, even though it seems like I am waiting to see DnL go down in flames, it's not because of the game, it's because of the people behind it. Put that game in the hands of competent programmers and it really could be something great.

    So, here's to hoping Farlan goes bankrupt and sells DnL to the highest bidder for a 2009 release!
  • Honestly Cholayna has no more reason to answer you. Whats it to you why she does it? You are not her parent, although you try to be. You are not her teacher, I can tell you she graduated some years ago but you try to be. You are not a mentor, friend, colleague, you are nothing to her. To place yourself in a spot in which you also seem quite desperate, like other posters here, to demand the whys and wherefores from the posters is completely irrational and  I may say a bit egotistical. (I will also have to mention you seem to have scanned over the entire reply she made and stuck yourself on one single thing, of which , if you reread it , she gave you the answer)

    What you are trying to do is hijack this topic =--- again-- with your own moaning and groaning. You are doing exactly what you are complaining she is doing. Coming here and ranking on ev1. Nobody cares when your only posts are ranking on other ppl. Try something constructive about the thread, the game. Oh wait, yes, you find that little tidbit a bit too hard to obtain, we understand. But hijacking topics with complaints about the complainers is all you are about and like another poster here, quite tiring.

    Back on topic --- the stress test was a failure. Farlan tried -- again mind you-- to pass it off as "we meant to do it that way" -- as if the login, bug and crashing were all carefully planned.The "wait and see" is yet another slogan for them to pass out. The failed test is yet another topic in which Farlan brought out themselves and in which critics will certainly jump on. The failed test and laughable "we meant that to happen" excuse brought out the fanbois complaining about the critics ( who were once again proved correct in their statements and predictions). Its an estabished pattern. The "told ya" from the fanbois regarding the test was also a complete slap back at them. The simple truth is, the test was yet another joke in a long line of jokes and many ppl will stay to the end just watching the desperate attempts by the devs and the fanbois to patch up a train wreck that just keeps happening.



  • Originally posted by Xanth
    Cholayna,

      Again, what do you gain based on my original questions?  I don't want to hear how bad Farlan is how much they lie and how much they've hurt you.  I want to know what you gain by constantly sitting here moaning and groaning about a game you despise and self admittedly `don't care` about.

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    she answered your question. Entertainment. But it can then be turned to you.Why do you insist on trying to shut people up about it. Topic hijacking would be the only logical explanation. Btw -- do you think you could come over and analyze my bird? He seems to think the bird in the mirror is another bird. Silly yes - but I think I little analysis would do him good.
  • CholaynaCholayna Member Posts: 1,604


    Originally posted by IKShadow

    So as you can see those 0.01% of people will constantly  be here and even if they close Dark and Light after few months those people will have hard time to move on for quite some time. ( example: mouring forums )


    what 0.01% of what? Those 300000 registered are no longer around dude. So your 01% is of the last remaining of those. Here you are again glossing over the hard core truth. DNL just doesnt have those 300000 anymore.And you must take into consideration that many of them were registered long long long ago (my original name is still in there but I havent used it in almost a year) . After this latest train wreck of a 100 player "stress test", I would have to say that even more of that highest peak number have become INACTIVE.

    And if they close DNL? Nah in your flaming the flamers way , the flamers will pat themselves on the back for a higher ratio of correct predictions and exposed truths and drift off to other games. Will any of them get stuck in yet another farce of a game? Will they ever find their purple pokeadotted purple people eater sunglasses? Will they ever find true happiness?

    Stay tuned for the next installment of As DNL Fails Again and Again and Again.

    One thing you can bet your bottom dollar is......this company and this game has shown the MMO world what NOT to do. Has shown what is important is the fan community. Has shown that the MMO community has grown up, demands quality AND decent treatment.

  • CholaynaCholayna Member Posts: 1,604


    Originally posted by Xanth
    Cholayna,

      Again, what do you gain based on my original questions?  I don't want to hear how bad Farlan is how much they lie and how much they've hurt you.  I want to know what you gain by constantly sitting here moaning and groaning about a game you despise and self admittedly `don't care` about.

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    Sigh, what are you> cousin to IK. You got your answer. I dont need any more pyschoanalyzing, I will say however you should look in the mirror...right besides Lilbo's bird.
  • IKShadowIKShadow Member UncommonPosts: 783


    Originally posted by Cholayna

    Originally posted by IKShadow

    So as you can see those 0.01% of people will constantly  be here and even if they close Dark and Light after few months those people will have hard time to move on for quite some time. ( example: mouring forums )

    what 0.01% of what? Those 300000 registered are no longer around dude.


    Lol Cholayna thats the point those people does not stick around THEY MOVED ON ...

    Futilez[Do You Have What It Takes ?]

  • MITSoxFanMITSoxFan Member Posts: 92


    Originally posted by IKShadow

    Originally posted by Cholayna

    Originally posted by IKShadow

    So as you can see those 0.01% of people will constantly  be here and even if they close Dark and Light after few months those people will have hard time to move on for quite some time. ( example: mouring forums )

    what 0.01% of what? Those 300000 registered are no longer around dude.


    Lol Cholayna thats the point those people does not stick around THEY MOVED ON ...



    You haven't moved on and neither have we. The only difference is that we are waiting to see Farlan fall flat on its face while you wait for a miracle to happen. Either way, those that don't care are gone, and those that do (for better or worse) are still around.

    What Cho is saying is that the population of people that care is far smaller than 300K. It's more like 300. And probably 10% of those are hoping for a miracle, and the other 90% are waiting for Farlan to admit they are a bunch of lying cheats.

    But what's the difference as long as we're all talking about DnL. Last I looked this forum wasn't split into two different groups, those that are hopeful and those that are hateful.
  • CholaynaCholayna Member Posts: 1,604


    Originally posted by IKShadow

    Originally posted by Cholayna

    Originally posted by IKShadow

    So as you can see those 0.01% of people will constantly  be here and even if they close Dark and Light after few months those people will have hard time to move on for quite some time. ( example: mouring forums )

    what 0.01% of what? Those 300000 registered are no longer around dude.


    Lol Cholayna thats the point those people does not stick around THEY MOVED ON ...

    IK Im not gonna leave, got that? Pulling the DNL forum "you dont like it leave" game aint gonna work here. Im here to stay and I wont shut up and I wont stop exposing the joke that Farcelan/NPFleece and Allchemical Dreams are trying to pass. Got it? Now, please stop with the topic hijacks and the off topic flames. You were asked once before by another poster, now I am asking again. Please stop with the topic hijacks and off topic flames. Its pure harrassment now.
  • CholaynaCholayna Member Posts: 1,604

    even the new patch 'may have problems' in which you will need to self patch. doh!

    Dear Gawd, these ppl are unreal. LOLOLOL

  • IKShadowIKShadow Member UncommonPosts: 783

    Originally posted by MITSoxFan


    You haven't moved on and neither have we.


    I did not move couse I liked SoG so I dont need any miricle builds etc...
    I just wait to play dark and light regardles of its state so realy no need for me to move on.
    ( If i wont like it will play something else and retryed it in few months )

    And as for you Cholayna please stop with this harrassment every time you read something you dont like.

    Everyhing I stated in post above its 100% FACTS, get it . Yea I know truth hurts.

    I know you reported my post but its not harrassment its truth.

    No one is telling you to leave so dont miss quote me I purley posted facts and as you can see in every game those 0,01% of ppl will be there.

    As for the Stress test to stay on topic ( I see you would not mind some offtopic unitl it hit you ) Iam in it so all you guys post its some speculations ...

    As you know curently its still on NDA so ... I doubt that staff and MMORPG.COM supports NDA violations, some of the posts was already deleted some time ago.

    Futilez[Do You Have What It Takes ?]

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