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Why I won't play a healing class anymore !!!!
reavo
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My favorite class to roleplay is a healer. Druid, bard, shaman, cleric, you name it. I love the idea of being the healer or medicine man, etc.
But I ain't doing it anymore.
Why?
Because it used to be that people were able to decipher their roles. I don't know what's happened. Maybe a younger crowd of players have come into the fray since I began playing back in the Everquest days. But no matter what, if the crowd goes down nowadays, it's the healers fault.
It used to be different. If someone drew aggro needlessly, they would admit it. But I seen the strategy of groups in general hit rock bottom.
So I quit. I'm going to make myself a massive damage wizard, set some fires on some flesh, and brag about my damage.
I'm hanging up my caduceus.
But I ain't doing it anymore.
Why?
Because it used to be that people were able to decipher their roles. I don't know what's happened. Maybe a younger crowd of players have come into the fray since I began playing back in the Everquest days. But no matter what, if the crowd goes down nowadays, it's the healers fault.
It used to be different. If someone drew aggro needlessly, they would admit it. But I seen the strategy of groups in general hit rock bottom.
So I quit. I'm going to make myself a massive damage wizard, set some fires on some flesh, and brag about my damage.
I'm hanging up my caduceus.
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could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?
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I was also healer/support class in all games I've played. I think I'm fairly good at it, too. Usually people do not mess with me because I try to play with people I know, so when someone dies they are very carefull not to trashtalk their precious healer.
I think pros are better than cons in the healer case. In L2 the clan would even help me with equipment!
In the case of WoW, it's very rewarding when you're congratulated for your good work. Also, healer is a very difficult class that requires knowledge of all other classes and skills, and perfect understanding of the aggro management. With other classes I'm bored pretty fast. But with healer and support I always feel under the pressure that I need to find the gameplay interesting.
I couldn't care less when some noob trashtalks me about his useless death in a virtual world. I also know how to trashtalk back....
So, you know, clerics and doctors of the world, do not reroll a necromancer or a rogue. Keep up your good work! lol
Plus playing a healer in a game like WOW means that you may as well be playing a graphicless game in most of the latter encounters, especially raids. You don't really watch what you're fighting, anything it does, or position beyond you being in the right spot, you just watch health bars and hit the appropriate heals. Plus the much-more-common DPS classes seriously believe that they get first dibs on any loot they want, that you're apparently supposed to go on runs and only get your everything-but-main-healer gear if none of them want it.
Now to get back to the OP message. Iif the main tank goes down fast in a raid then it's your fault as a healer IMHO. There might be some issues with the tank not having the right gear for the job or knowing how to hold aggro but if that happens it's very easy to spot as healer or observer. Now if some aggro happy rogue or mage get's themselves killed then thats their problem. I wouldn't even waste mana trying to heal non tank classes in raids in WoW because thats what bandages, heal potions, aggro control, and Shammies are for IMHO.
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I was thinking of non-raid content since that's where arguments came up. It applies to raid content too, you can see discussions in raid guilds, even those that use DKP, about who is allowed to roll on what or who gets automatic priority on what.
Personally, I am of the opinion that any guild using a DKP system is not worth being in, nor is any guild doing any kind of raid content; I hate raids, raiding, and pretty much anything associated with it. But that's really beside the point, I was talking about being a healer.
Sounds like you'll enjoy playing a healbot in raids for the rest of your days in WOW, sounds like the game is a good fit for you. Some of us 'classes capable of healing' did things besides raid, like PVP, non-raid PVE, and farming. That's part of why I'm looking forward to WAR, no 'support classes' at all, you're never suppposed to "shut up and heal".
I had an opposite of the 'blame the healer for the wipe' when I was main tanking on my druid once in WOW. It was a 10-man LBRS run, should be easy but in the big troll room we completely screwed up and due to a mispull, patrol, and axe troll moving back ended up fighting 4 or 5 groups at once instead of just one. It was a brutal fight of course, but we pulled through, with just one death, me at the end of the fight. The healers were all apologizing profusely for dropping me, and I had to refrain from just laughing at them - we had a fight that by all rights should have been a wipe but only lost one person, and they're apologetic because someome ran OOM at the end of that mess?
Worst "tank" I ever encountered was one that bragged about being the last to die in a wipe. Silly warriors.
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I think it come down to teaching the peoples.
Someone who is new to a game expect the healer to heal them. If you teach them that you heal them under situation A. B or C and let's them die in any other situation, they should learn.
A new player, regardless of the game, is expecting the healer to heal everyone. You have to educated them, regardless of the MMO.
Ah...I still remember my old time in EQ, when the mage was angry that the healer doesn't heal him and heal me, the chanter. Let's the ranger explain him everything and he quit the group that day, but in the future he was playing more carefully...chanters where able to trespass this rule with their CC role.
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Which game got you pissed off?
Because i am sure not all games have that sort of community.I play EQ2 and there is just a very few handful of people i would not group with and they are so few that they are notorious on the server and rarely get a group anyhow .
I actually thought about quitting the game. Because I made a priest, then pretty much soloed him up to about 26. I was in a few small groups during that time but not anything big. Not because I didn't want to be in big groups, just that it always seemed to turn out that way.
Then after 26 I started getting in bigger and bigger groups. And the people became more and more notoriously rude and obnoxious. I just got sick of it.
It seems like the newer crowd of gamers. I'm sorry if I'm over generalizing and wrong, but that's just the way it seems to me.
I play EQ2 also. The people on there aren't nearly as bad. But I think a lot of the people playing EQ2 are folks from EQ. I know they definitely seem older. And they're not as bad in EQ or DAoC. But as newer games have come out, the crowds in general have gotten worse. In all of them.
I don't try to tell others how to play their class, but it seems everyone has advice for the healer. Usually, just stand back and heal. They don't want to try to coordinate anything on the front lines. It's just go in, hit what's there, and take for granted there is a healer in the group.
It could be a lot more fun for everyone to explore different play styles. That's kinda why they have different spec lines for healers in games, don't you guys agree?
The bast thing about playing a healer is that you get to choose who lives and who dies. If a person in a group complained about the way I played my healer it wouldn't be long until he was eating dirt... but that's just me.
Rarely is it the healers fault though. It's usually a problem with the tank or DPS dealer. As a Ranger myself, I know that I must allow the tank to grab and hold aggro before I deal out any of my high dmg spells. In a group setting, more often than not, the highest of dps spells isn't needed anyway. I prefer to save them for when something does go wrong and I need to do some crowd control.
And if the tank isn't taunting and the dpsers are dpsing massively, it's the healer that the mob is gonna go for.
While I don't do pickup groups very often, on the occasion when I am in one, I am never afraid to give advice to new players. That's really what the problem is. People don't know their chrcts. If they keep playing and never ask, and nobody comes out and tells them, they will continue to play their chrct very poorly.
Many players never bother to read the gaming forums to even learn their chrct.
Really stinks that the healers are always gettin the blame.
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To be honost, I was the one being yelled at by the healer in EQ2 heh. I played an Assassin, and always took aggro from the main tank (who claimed to have Adept III Taunts) and often took a lot of damage.
Was quite fun though
If I ever got in a group in WoW that consistantly whiped and blamed me I would wait until they aggrod way too fucking much and hit my little ol' hearth stone and be out of there before anyone knew what was going on. Yea probably not the best idea but I have never had that problem in other games so I say the immature can fight their own battles.
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PUGs is the ultimate test of someone skill.
Stay away from peoples who stay away from PUGs!
As they are unable to adapt and follow a strict 'efficiency' line, yet, I always outlevel them! 
I see guilds who hate PUGs have drastic differents ways of grouping, believing in minority theory, they find 1 and they stick to it. Lack of thinking, lack of adaptation, lack of...grouping! Meet new peoples, find new ways to die, find new solution, this is what is FUN!
Oh please
not every guild acts like the military, and you don't have to group with morons to show you can adapt to a change in game play.
Most pugs end up going wrong because someone gets greedy. In a guild you can control that some what and that's why I hate pugs.
As for meeting new people, my guild has almost a thousand people in it. I don't need to group with a pug to meet someone new.
PUGs is the ultimate test of someone skill.
Stay away from peoples who stay away from PUGs!
As they are unable to adapt and follow a strict 'efficiency' line, yet, I always outlevel them! 
I see guilds who hate PUGs have drastic differents ways of grouping, believing in minority theory, they find 1 and they stick to it. Lack of thinking, lack of adaptation, lack of...grouping! Meet new peoples, find new ways to die, find new solution, this is what is FUN!
Oh please
not every guild acts like the military, and you don't have to group with morons to show you can adapt to a change in game play.
Most pugs end up going wrong because someone gets greedy. In a guild you can control that some what and that's why I hate pugs.
As for meeting new people, my guild has almost a thousand people in it. I don't need to group with a pug to meet someone new.
depends on what the pug is for .... whos the " leader" and what classes or skillsets are in the pug ...
i ran nothing but PUGS on city of villains .. and it got to the point where my pUGS were so successfull in anything we attempted to do ( whether it be respec, powerleveling or tf's) that people started to regularly contact me and ask for a spot in the group ... which was full 9 out of ten times .. those same people would then proceed to ask me to save the next available spot on my group and play solo till i had an open spot .. ( sometimes up to as many as 5 people would be in waiting)
its just a matter of organizing the people on your team and being a leader ... you have to employ humility, modesty .. and at the same time display strong leadership and nobility .. and the proper cocktail of these traits will get the people ( even those jealous loner types who like to see the stronger players die) really into the group .. keep em focused, loyal and working as a team ...