Lineage 2..oh why didn't i listen to you lot.

Strontium

played 3 days now.....cancelled subscription.

Reasons.

1. Money Grind...ridiculously hard

2. Bots..all better equppied than me , even though i'm actually trying to earn cash properly.

3. No other new players to interact with.

4. No shops selling cheaper gear.

Other than that i liked it honest....just feels like it's a game for high level players and bot farmers.

I Ended up stuck in Gludin Village after going there for a low level quest...it forgot to mention i needed 6k to get back....so basically screwed.

Think this game will only be kept alive by botters and long term subscribers not wanting to lose their hard earned chars..which is understandable.

Anyway cancelled subscription..can see this just getting more fustrating. will stick to beta testing games prior to paying in future.

beautyisin

Its a shame because some aspects of the game are pretty cool.

MW2K

Be mindful of that NTPP2 or whatever it's called, that it installs on your system. Uninstalling the game does not remove it. I could not get rid of the references to it in event viewer no matter what. 

Gameloading

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Originally posted by Strontium

played 3 days now.....cancelled subscription.
not enough to get even a taste of what the game is like

Reasons.
1. Money Grind...ridiculously hard
oh you poor thing...wait here, I'll get the silver plate

2. Bots..all better equppied than me , even though i'm actually trying to earn cash properly.
happens in every game, they just don't hide in an instance in L2.

3. No other new players to interact with.
True, there aren't a lot of new players, but there isn't a lack of them either, the newbie villages are emty most of the time, most players are in the bigger towns

4. No shops selling cheaper gear.
The silver plate is on its way. but seriously, this isn't a game where you can get your best equipment right away. you have to learn to understand the economy, you can't just buy new equipment every level. you have to decide what you need and what you don't need,

Other than that i liked it honest....just feels like it's a game for high level players and bot farmers.
Most content is indeed for high lvl players, altough I found there is plenty to do at lower lvl's. raiding is a lot of fun


I Ended up stuck in Gludin Village after going there for a low level quest...it forgot to mention i needed 6k to get back....so basically screwed.
or you can just hunt monsters in the area and get a few coins and get back. there are some weaker mobs around the area.

Think this game will only be kept alive by botters and long term subscribers not wanting to lose their hard earned chars..which is understandable.
true, those 4 million players are all bots.

Anyway cancelled subscription..can see this just getting more fustrating. will stick to beta testing games prior to paying in future.
no offence, but I think its better for you to try a game that requires less time, I say give WoW or Everquest 2 a shot.

Strontium

Actually i never cancelled..just said that out of pure fustration..

I paid for a month i'll play for a month...i'm fustrated not stupid.

I always earn my own way in games and try to equip myself as i go along.

Also just learned the pet quest is a useless money magnet..and should never have ported there. As i said i'm learning the hard way atm.

*Update* 2 very kind players took pity on me and helped me out...i am once again killing and earning.

Minsc

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Originally posted by Gameloading

Originally posted by Strontium

played 3 days now.....cancelled subscription.
not enough to get even a taste of what the game is like

Reasons.
1. Money Grind...ridiculously hard
oh you poor thing...wait here, I'll get the silver plate

2. Bots..all better equppied than me , even though i'm actually trying to earn cash properly.
happens in every game, they just don't hide in an instance in L2.

3. No other new players to interact with.
True, there aren't a lot of new players, but there isn't a lack of them either, the newbie villages are emty most of the time, most players are in the bigger towns

4. No shops selling cheaper gear.
The silver plate is on its way. but seriously, this isn't a game where you can get your best equipment right away. you have to learn to understand the economy, you can't just buy new equipment every level. you have to decide what you need and what you don't need,

Other than that i liked it honest....just feels like it's a game for high level players and bot farmers.
Most content is indeed for high lvl players, altough I found there is plenty to do at lower lvl's. raiding is a lot of fun


I Ended up stuck in Gludin Village after going there for a low level quest...it forgot to mention i needed 6k to get back....so basically screwed.
or you can just hunt monsters in the area and get a few coins and get back. there are some weaker mobs around the area.

Think this game will only be kept alive by botters and long term subscribers not wanting to lose their hard earned chars..which is understandable.
true, those 4 million players are all bots.

Anyway cancelled subscription..can see this just getting more fustrating. will stick to beta testing games prior to paying in future.
no offence, but I think its better for you to try a game that requires less time, I say give WoW or Everquest 2 a shot.

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WOW...you're defending bad game mechanics...that's just sad.

Gameloading

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Originally posted by Minsc

WOW...you're defending bad game mechanics...that's just sad.

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You don´t know the diffrence between a fact and an oppinion, now THATS sad

Torak

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Originally posted by Strontium

played 3 days now.....cancelled subscription.
Reasons.
1. Money Grind...ridiculously hard
Yes it is, agree 100%, however after 3 days you don't even know what the economy is about, let alone figure it out. The town of Dion is your first "real" taste of the true economy.
2. Bots..all better equppied than me , even though i'm actually trying to earn cash properly.
Hmmm, you played for 3 days, everyone is better equipped then you
3. No other new players to interact with.
There are very few actual noobs, so yes the starter island is pretty empty
4. No shops selling cheaper gear.
Why should anyone want to sell you anything cheaper? That defeats the whole idea of making money. You understand this game is a player driven economy not NPC shop based? Also did you trade your gear with the newbie helper? He's called the newbie helper for a reason.
Other than that i liked it honest....just feels like it's a game for high level players and bot farmers.

I Ended up stuck in Gludin Village after going there for a low level quest...it forgot to mention i needed 6k to get back....so basically screwed.
Think this game will only be kept alive by botters and long term subscribers not wanting to lose their hard earned chars..which is understandable.
That is your 3 day opinion. I don't mean to come down on you but L2 has an excellent community. You haven't seen PvP until you have been in an L2 castle seige. The game is not designed to reward you with everything within a few days.
Anyway cancelled subscription..can see this just getting more fustrating. will stick to beta testing games prior to paying in future.
I would normally say "can I have your stuff" but after 3 days its doubtful you even have anything.

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You obviously had some "issues" in your 3 short days.....

Did you talk to anyone? You said you made it to Gludin. There are plenty of people in Gludin

Why did you go to Gludin anyway? The only quest that sends you there from the starter areas is your class transfer quest. If that is the case, you need to move on anyway. (That would imply you are around level 17 or 18 or so...you don't have 6k to port back???)

You are aware that the newbie helper gives buffs and trades items for better gear until lvl 25, don't you? It is very cheap to upgrade gear at this point. The newbie helper also tells you where the best places to hunt are for your level.

What level did you make it to?

Did you do your first class transfer?

What did you think about how the economy once you saw how it worked? You understand the idea of buy low / sell high? (I just reveiled the secret of the L2 economy to you)

My first week was sort of rough, it takes a bit of time to figure it out as it is very different from the hand holding, spoon feeding games but its not hard.

Motorhead

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Originally posted by Strontium

Actually i never cancelled..just said that out of pure fustration..

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So anything else you lied about in your OP?

And as far as the game being kept alive by long-term players and bots:   You do realize there's like 5 million Koreans playing this game?   I believe it has a larger subscription base than WoW.   It's not going anywhere.

Gameloading

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Originally posted by Torak

Why did you go to Gludin anyway? The only quest that sends you there from the starter areas is your class transfer quest. If that is the case, you need to move on anyway. (That would imply you are around level 17 or 18 or so...you don't have 6k to port back???)

Y is very different from the hand holding, spoon feeding games but its not hard.

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thats not true, I remember there is a quest on talking island that you can get at low lvl that sends you to gludin as well. it would be better if the op did that quest at the same time as his class transfer quests, but thats something you just have to know or find out the hard way but that on a sidenote

Greatness

First of all, play more than three days.

Second, I don't think the money thing should be THAT big of an issue if you used everything given to you.

The best way when starting out to easily upgrade, use free buffs, free soulshots/spiritshots, the exchanging of equipment, and the quests. If you used and did all these, money should not be that big of an issue.

Also, in 3 days, you really haven't experienced much. Get atleast in the 20's range where you change classes and start going on raids (there are TONS of boss monsters ranging from lvl 20-80. Check Adventure Guild Member, located in every city).

What level are you? What server?

KariTR

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Originally posted by Gameloading

Originally posted by Torak

Why did you go to Gludin anyway? The only quest that sends you there from the starter areas is your class transfer quest. If that is the case, you need to move on anyway. (That would imply you are around level 17 or 18 or so...you don't have 6k to port back???)

Y is very different from the hand holding, spoon feeding games but its not hard.

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thats not true, I remember there is a quest on talking island that you can get at low lvl that sends you to gludin as well. it would be better if the op did that quest at the same time as his class transfer quests, but thats something you just have to know or find out the hard way but that on a sidenote

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The Millenium something quest is level 15, perfect level for Gludin ...and its only 2,400 adena to get the boat back to Talking Island, but as already mentioned you dont need to hurry back there now youre on the mainland.

Torak

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Originally posted by Gameloading

thats not true, I remember there is a quest on talking island that you can get at low lvl that sends you to gludin as well. it would be better if the op did that quest at the same time as his class transfer quests, but thats something you just have to know or find out the hard way but that on a sidenote

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So sue me, its been like 7 or 8 months since I did the starter quest lol.

Minsc

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Originally posted by Gameloading

Originally posted by Minsc

WOW...you're defending bad game mechanics...that's just sad.

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You don´t know the diffrence between a fact and an oppinion, now THATS sad

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So there's no grinding for levels/adena in L2 at all? REAAALLLY. So I must have been imagining things last time I played it then.

Amarao

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Originally posted by Strontium

played 3 days now.....cancelled subscription.
Reasons.
1. Money Grind...ridiculously hard
2. Bots..all better equppied than me , even though i'm actually trying to earn cash properly.
3. No other new players to interact with.
4. No shops selling cheaper gear.
Other than that i liked it honest....just feels like it's a game for high level players and bot farmers.

I Ended up stuck in Gludin Village after going there for a low level quest...it forgot to mention i needed 6k to get back....so basically screwed.
Think this game will only be kept alive by botters and long term subscribers not wanting to lose their hard earned chars..which is understandable.
Anyway cancelled subscription..can see this just getting more fustrating. will stick to beta testing games prior to paying in future.

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I completely agree.
Except i think the lvl grind in unbearable also.

Gameloading

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Originally posted by Minsc

Originally posted by Gameloading

Originally posted by Minsc

WOW...you're defending bad game mechanics...that's just sad.

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You don´t know the diffrence between a fact and an oppinion, now THATS sad

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So there's no grinding for levels/adena in L2 at all? REAAALLLY. So I must have been imagining things last time I played it then.

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Oh dear, I don't have to go back to an npc every 5 minutes and the periods between typing "ding" is longer, now Lineage 2 is completely diffrent from all other mmo's and its much more of a grind then other mmo's.