Star Wars Galaxies - My closing review

Obraik

Necro ftl

Minimum

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Originally posted by NovaCat

Negative71, your "hollier than thou" attitude makes you no better then all these "malcontents" that you bash. 

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What he said. 

Neg, your every bit as annoying and condescending as those you accuse.

Pot, meet Kettle.

daeandor

Why did someone dig this up?  I remember this time period quite well, it is when I quit for the first time...

For the record, Wepps returned and quit again, and then again, after this episode IIRC.

Shayde

It is funny that he's NOW over there smooching dev behind and saying everything is "unicorn giggles".

Oh how the mighty have fallen. Darth Wepps.

viadi

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Originally posted by Wepps

After 7 months following a badly timed release, there has been little positive change to this product. SOE appears to be in a complete state of panic, and has been making some very poor development decisions since that release.
My last feedback to them, before cancelling my account, was the following:
Given the past record of the development team, their ignorance concerning the effects of their changes, and the complete lack of confidence the vast majority of people in this (SWG) community have for their ability to make reasonable fixes to a badly broken product, I recommend it's time for a change.
It's become obvious that those managing the development of the product do not have the ability to make intelligent decisions based upon a reasonable set of priorities.
They are incapable of envisioning changes based upon balance, otherwise these issues would surely have been addressed.
They are unwilling to view the feedback of any of the differing communities as to the state of their professions, with the exception of Jedi.
Though quite capable of creative and intuitive thought, they sacrifice these basic concepts in the name of inefficient busy work, as changes made to Mon Calamari females' breasts, melons, and hats, seem to indicate their failure in assigning appropriate priorities to the major problems in existence.
The perception of the community is that they have daily meetings in order to pad their salaries, without any truly intuitive and intelligent thought involved, or even the ability of the people responsible to deliver the appropriate feedback from our individual communities to those attending said meeting. In essence, the correspondent program, which was designed in order to get direct feedback from our community to the developers, has failed since it somehow now requires a further need for an Assistant Community Manager to deliver this same feedback to the management team, and actually allows him further power to censure that feedback before it arrives at the appropriate desk.
They are less interested in the problems which exist, than they are with their own sensibilities being hurt, which seems to clearly show a general lack of professionalism on their part.
They have further wasted seven months of the development of this product on insignificant issues, and have repeatedly implemented game breaking policies, further wasting the community's time.
Their policies include failure to test and implement those changes, creating a bevy of coding errors which are not addressed properly after patched onto the client.
The development team does NOT have the pulse of the community. They continually ignore negative posts, as if to say there is nothing at all wrong with their design. Therefore, they do not have the capability to see what is truly wrong with this product in general, and are further enhancing this failure with coding practices more attuned to the street hacker than a professional coder.
The previous is magnified in their failure to promote proper documentation to these changes, and therefore it takes increasing amounts of time to even identify a problem in the code, let alone correct it.
After a series of organizational rearrangements, the resulting publish seems to have all these same failures, with no improvements witnessed by the community. Therefore, more time was wasted 'shuffling the deck', rather than getting down to brass tacks and fixing the problems.
Seven months, as of tomorrow, of the improper management practices listed above have placed us all in a situation where this product is making no progress towards a higher quality, whether in coded implementations themselves, the game play, or in the overall entertainment value of our paid accounts.
I feel it's time for a change. We need a more professional management, attuned to the needs of the community, and more capable of efficient and effective product development, and there is no better way to do this than to remove those incapable of such achievements and replace them with competent, intelligent, and creative individuals able to meet the needs of the SWG community.
Truly, expecting to see some negative feedback from other posters to this evaluation, I was surprised to see that any responses stated that this was exactly how the poster felt, and that they too were preparing to cancel their accounts.
As of today, I cancelled mine as well, citing incompetent management and their associated policy failures. Even though I had 5 months left on my account, the feedback concerning their 6th Major Publish since release, proved to me that there is simply no hope for the future of this wonderful gaming concept ... much to my disappointment, as I am an avid Star Wars fan who very much looked forward to the arrival of this game on the market. I spent much time in Beta 3 doing my best to help direct the developers to a better end, but it became apparent after their release announcement that they simply were no longer listening to the testers before that release, or to the feedback of the community afterwards.
In fact, at one point during my game play, things got so bad that I reinstalled an old standby....
Star Wars: Rebellion.
Now, THIS was a game! It only ever required one patch, and that to address online play. There were no bugs to speak of, that didn't involve the system it resisided  on being underpowered. The game play, even though certainly not the same genre as SWG, and unlike SWG, was FUN!
I never found myself bored when playing Rebellion. Unfortunately, when I requested information from Lucasarts concerning a possible Rebellion II product, I was informed there were no such plans.
But, I digress. SWG is replete with the compiled failures of every other MMORPG in the history of the genre, and it's plain that the developers themselves are at a loss as to how to deal with these failures.
All in all, I'd say that Skywalker Ranch made a tremendously bad judgment call, in choosing SOE/Verant to manage SWG.
Therefore, in conclusion, I certainly wouldn't recommend this product to anybody whom I consider a friend, and since I don't talk to those whom I consider enemies, this pretty much includes everybody!
Wepps

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Welcome to the darkside wepps

not to say we told you so, but, we told you so! SOE lost the plot just before the CU and i think the NGE was a poor attempt at fixing the problems caused by the CU

 

lol I have a bet on with friends on how long it is before the producers letter comes with a closing date for the servers my dates are Oct-Dec 06 (we all have a 3 month time slot) whats yours?

oh and in closing i do find it sad that even you wepps has been forced to see the light i know you did try hard on the forums to keep it a little upbeat, anyway well done you for trying

Sago

LOLOLOLOL ROFLMAO

This is NOT the REAL xXWeppsXx.

The real xXWeppsXx is a fanboi in every sense of the word. He would NEVER write this. As far as the reall Wepps goes, SOE and LA can do NO wrong.

My hat is off to you (OP) who ever you are .... QFE. Tho you read my heart .... LOLOL

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OK ... Now I am confused ... this was originally written in 01/04??? Why is this here? and is this the REAL wepps?

Vortex ... what was your purpose for resurrecting this from the depths of lost and forgotten posts?

Bissrok

The way I see it, those "hacked" numbers showed that there might be around 40k subscribers. On top of the normal costs of running an MMORPG, they've paying for that beast of a license. They've got to be losing money. They might try one more drastic change. But, personally, I hope they do stay around another couple years. After losing that much money, they probably wouldn't try another MMO again any time soon.

daeandor

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Originally posted by Sago

LOLOLOLOL ROFLMAO
This is NOT the REAL xXWeppsXx.
The real xXWeppsXx is a fanboi in every sense of the word. He would NEVER write this. As far as the reall Wepps goes, SOE and LA can do NO wrong.
My hat is off to you (OP) who ever you are .... QFE. Tho you read my heart .... LOLOL
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OK ... Now I am confused ... this was originally written in 01/04??? Why is this here? and is this the REAL wepps?

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that was the real Wepps the first time he "quit".  Someone decided to necropost.  And Wepps has NOT always been a "fanboi" perse, more of an outspoken whiner that tended to overdramatize every action by SOE.  His posts have always been quite funny, ranging from SOE and SWG being the best thing since sliced bread to SOE is the devil and SWG is failing.  I have always had to take what he posted with a grain of salt and I suggest you do to if he decided to come in here and comment on this 2 year old post.

Gravez

This further proves the guy has serious mental issues. He'll do exactly the opposite of what the majority thinks and dramatize everything just to draw attention to himself. If everyone loved the NGE he'd the the biggest and most vocal hater. I don't even think he actually plays the game much he just trolls forums all day.

Kayleigh

I didn't notice right off this was a moldy old post. I thought WOW, Wepps has regained his sanity and is telling it like it is. Whoa. Reality check.

He sounds like such a normal guy here. I can't get over it. How did he turn into the icky thing he has become?  Even the devs must be embarrassed by some of his posts some days.

K

Ankor

The NGE combined with SOE's antisocial approach to its paying customers is what has caused the population numbers to slowly dwindle.

MeFartsSmell

Star Wars: Rebellion. That was a rockin game, oh man I loved that game, I still have it I dont know were it is but I am gonna go look for it, I love that game.

MeFartsSmell

I feel for all of you, but to be honest with all of you, I feel myself that the bounty hunter and jedi and commando and some others have been getting lots of kisses and love, no one as much as those glow stick fruit loops in robes they get anything they want. But after 27 publishs and 2 combat upgrades in publish number 31 my big baby blue smuggler is gonna get a whole lotta nice stuff so they say, after 31 publishes thats pretty sad. LOL but I have no idea if it will happen or not but I am gonna stick around to see just in case, if not, then I will have to see.

Vortex500

Ok Guys sorry for the necro its only me playing around with the forum for the first time. Didnt know it would bump it up to first page.

azhrarn

 

Edit... Oh lord, serious necromancy.

pirrg

haha, forum necro ftw

i havent seen wepps around these boards lately though, was he banned or something?

kefkah

Depends on who you believe but there are two accounts as to his whereabouts and why...

1. He got a lobotomy and currently is a paid or perked poster to the official SWG forums. Let me revise that last sentence a bit...he is a paid or perked prolific poster. Since leaving here, his post count is in the thousands and shattered any known posting record that existed before his attempt.

or

2. He left here and went over to the SWG forums to start threads that span double digits about shop locations and doublespeak. He is considered there to be the ultimate supporter of SWG or the most reviled and debatably delusional poster again depending on who you talk to. Other posters over there often point to his earlier posts here which are directly against what he currently says and supports. Some even say there are actually two Wepps.

At any rate, you will find him over there posting to be sure. Though a recent rumor is that he posted here as an alt most recently. The jury is still out on that one.

spookytooth

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Originally posted by Negative71
Oh yeah.. what's next? You going to try and call me out IRL or something, Keyboard Commando? Most of your fellow idiot kids...etcetcetc.
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What a mess.
Your here to point out others stupidity and yet your the most screwed up person here. Remeber to take your meds everyday.

OSYYRUS

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Originally posted by Vortex500
Ok Guys sorry for the necro its only me playing around with the forum for the first time. Didnt know it would bump it up to first page.

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No worries
It is funny that you picked this post to rise from the grave though. It very clearly tells us that the NGE's #1 fanboi is either a.)on the payroll b.) getting some other fringe benefit or c.) just a complete social degenerate or a mix of all three. It'd be funny is someone put together a compilation of contradicting posts like they did with the History of the Smuggler. That post made me laugh, cry, scream, and rage all at the same time.

anaic

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Originally posted by Wepps

After 7 months following a badly timed release, there has been little positive change to this product. SOE appears to be in a complete state of panic, and has been making some very poor development decisions since that release.
My last feedback to them, before cancelling my account, was the following:
Given the past record of the development team, their ignorance concerning the effects of their changes, and the complete lack of confidence the vast majority of people in this (SWG) community have for their ability to make reasonable fixes to a badly broken product, I recommend it's time for a change.
It's become obvious that those managing the development of the product do not have the ability to make intelligent decisions based upon a reasonable set of priorities.
They are incapable of envisioning changes based upon balance, otherwise these issues would surely have been addressed.
They are unwilling to view the feedback of any of the differing communities as to the state of their professions, with the exception of Jedi.
Though quite capable of creative and intuitive thought, they sacrifice these basic concepts in the name of inefficient busy work, as changes made to Mon Calamari females' breasts, melons, and hats, seem to indicate their failure in assigning appropriate priorities to the major problems in existence.
The perception of the community is that they have daily meetings in order to pad their salaries, without any truly intuitive and intelligent thought involved, or even the ability of the people responsible to deliver the appropriate feedback from our individual communities to those attending said meeting. In essence, the correspondent program, which was designed in order to get direct feedback from our community to the developers, has failed since it somehow now requires a further need for an Assistant Community Manager to deliver this same feedback to the management team, and actually allows him further power to censure that feedback before it arrives at the appropriate desk.
They are less interested in the problems which exist, than they are with their own sensibilities being hurt, which seems to clearly show a general lack of professionalism on their part.
They have further wasted seven months of the development of this product on insignificant issues, and have repeatedly implemented game breaking policies, further wasting the community's time.
Their policies include failure to test and implement those changes, creating a bevy of coding errors which are not addressed properly after patched onto the client.
The development team does NOT have the pulse of the community. They continually ignore negative posts, as if to say there is nothing at all wrong with their design. Therefore, they do not have the capability to see what is truly wrong with this product in general, and are further enhancing this failure with coding practices more attuned to the street hacker than a professional coder.
The previous is magnified in their failure to promote proper documentation to these changes, and therefore it takes increasing amounts of time to even identify a problem in the code, let alone correct it.
After a series of organizational rearrangements, the resulting publish seems to have all these same failures, with no improvements witnessed by the community. Therefore, more time was wasted 'shuffling the deck', rather than getting down to brass tacks and fixing the problems.
Seven months, as of tomorrow, of the improper management practices listed above have placed us all in a situation where this product is making no progress towards a higher quality, whether in coded implementations themselves, the game play, or in the overall entertainment value of our paid accounts.
I feel it's time for a change. We need a more professional management, attuned to the needs of the community, and more capable of efficient and effective product development, and there is no better way to do this than to remove those incapable of such achievements and replace them with competent, intelligent, and creative individuals able to meet the needs of the SWG community.
Truly, expecting to see some negative feedback from other posters to this evaluation, I was surprised to see that any responses stated that this was exactly how the poster felt, and that they too were preparing to cancel their accounts.
As of today, I cancelled mine as well, citing incompetent management and their associated policy failures. Even though I had 5 months left on my account, the feedback concerning their 6th Major Publish since release, proved to me that there is simply no hope for the future of this wonderful gaming concept ... much to my disappointment, as I am an avid Star Wars fan who very much looked forward to the arrival of this game on the market. I spent much time in Beta 3 doing my best to help direct the developers to a better end, but it became apparent after their release announcement that they simply were no longer listening to the testers before that release, or to the feedback of the community afterwards.
In fact, at one point during my game play, things got so bad that I reinstalled an old standby....
Star Wars: Rebellion.
Now, THIS was a game! It only ever required one patch, and that to address online play. There were no bugs to speak of, that didn't involve the system it resisided  on being underpowered. The game play, even though certainly not the same genre as SWG, and unlike SWG, was FUN!
I never found myself bored when playing Rebellion. Unfortunately, when I requested information from Lucasarts concerning a possible Rebellion II product, I was informed there were no such plans.
But, I digress. SWG is replete with the compiled failures of every other MMORPG in the history of the genre, and it's plain that the developers themselves are at a loss as to how to deal with these failures.
All in all, I'd say that Skywalker Ranch made a tremendously bad judgment call, in choosing SOE/Verant to manage SWG.
Therefore, in conclusion, I certainly wouldn't recommend this product to anybody whom I consider a friend, and since I don't talk to those whom I consider enemies, this pretty much includes everybody!
Wepps

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/applaud Wepps

Tiller

Nice necro

Distopia

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Originally posted by anaic

/applaud Wepps

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You do know he is talking about pre-cu , And was quick to support nge ?

Shayde

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Originally posted by Malickiebloo

Originally posted by anaic

/applaud Wepps

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You do know he is talking about pre-cu , And was quick to support nge ?

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Quick.. no. He was actually very critical for a couple months. He bitched his characters were "gated" because all the quests were broken... specials broken...

Then one day, he woke up with a pod next to his bed, and was 100% asskiss.

It was weird.

iskareot

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Originally posted by Malickiebloo

Originally posted by anaic

/applaud Wepps

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You do know he is talking about pre-cu , And was quick to support nge ?
You do know he is talking about pre-cu , And was quick to support nge ?

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As I had said and it did NOT fly.... I will say this to stay safe due to the cry --

I stand behind my thoughts of Wepps which can be found on the SWG boards unless they messed up the search options.

Wepps does not speak for the majority nor does he speak for anyone that I know that played the game.

Again to be clear.... Wepps ideals are not the majority of thoughts about the game.

As I had said and it did NOT fly.... I will say this to stay safe due to the cry --

I stand behind my thoughts of Wepps which can be found on the SWG boards unless they messed up the search options.

Wepps does not speak for the majority nor does he speak for anyone that I know that played the game.

Again to be clear.... Wepps ideals are not the majority of thoughts about the game.