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The new SW DVD's... DON'T BOTHER.
Shayde
Member Posts: 4,529
I know this isn't SWG.. but it is just as important to everyone here, maybe even MORE so, so...
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Just plain insulting.
You know what? The new-old versions of the original trilogy soon to be released is...
1. NOT anamorphic widescreen.. just a letterboxed transfer of the laserdisk. Won't look any better AT ALL.
2. NOT in THX.. only STEREO. 2 channel stereo.
3. The original cuts are really the "Bonus disk" to yet another set of the same disks we already have.
So they make the big deal about finally releasing it, yet they
INTENTIONALLY spend ZERO resources to make it WORTH having on DVD.
Basically it is the SAME DVD that you all can get from looking on the web for a "Laserdisk to DVD transfer". Hell.. I think the DVD I have is 7
channed stereo.
Save your cash. Spread the word.
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Just plain insulting.
You know what? The new-old versions of the original trilogy soon to be released is...
1. NOT anamorphic widescreen.. just a letterboxed transfer of the laserdisk. Won't look any better AT ALL.
2. NOT in THX.. only STEREO. 2 channel stereo.
3. The original cuts are really the "Bonus disk" to yet another set of the same disks we already have.
So they make the big deal about finally releasing it, yet they
INTENTIONALLY spend ZERO resources to make it WORTH having on DVD.
Basically it is the SAME DVD that you all can get from looking on the web for a "Laserdisk to DVD transfer". Hell.. I think the DVD I have is 7
channed stereo.
Save your cash. Spread the word.
Shayde - SWG (dead)
Proud member of the Cabal.
It sounds great, so great in fact, I pitty those who canceled 
- Some deluded SWG fanboi who pities me.
I don't like it when you say things. - A Vanguard fan who does too.
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Oh well.
(Love that sig Shadye)
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SWG - Killed by $OE
WOW - Retired
Playing WAR
There's a HUGE difference between watching a cropped disk and anamorphic widescreen, especially on HD.
And 2 channel stereo is PLAIN INSULTING. Lucas invented THX for frak's sake.
Shayde - SWG (dead)
Proud member of the Cabal.
It sounds great, so great in fact, I pitty those who canceled
I don't like it when you say things. - A Vanguard fan who does too.
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"There's no star system Slave I can't reach, and there's no planet I can't find. There's nowhere in the Galaxy for you to run. Might as well give up now."
Boba Fett
I wanted you to know how much we appreciate the passion and
enthusiasm you have for Star Wars, and thank you for sharing your
concerns about our upcoming DVD release.
The DVDs being released in September will contain two versions of
Star Wars: Episodes IV, V and VI – the Special Editions (which
represent George’s vision of the movies) and the first versions, which
will be included as bonus material. We hoped that releasing those
“original” movies on a bonus disc would be a way to have some
additional fun with the debut of the movies as individual DVDs. We
certainly did not want it to become a source of concern or frustration
for any of our fans.
As you may know, an enormous amount of effort was put into digitally
restoring the negatives for the Special Editions. In one scene alone,
nearly 1 million pieces of dirt had to be removed, and the Special
Editions were created through a frame-by-frame digital restoration. The
negatives of the movies were permanently altered for the creation of
the Special Editions, and existing prints of the first versions are in
poor condition.
So many fans have requested the original movies, we wanted to find a
way to bring them to you. But since these movies do not represent
George's artistic vision, we could not put the extraordinary time and
resources into this project as we did with the Special Editions. The
1993 Laserdisc masters represented the best source for providing the
original versions as DVD bonus material. Although these are
non-anamorphic versions, they do preserve the original widescreen
composition of the movies.
We want you to be aware that we have no plans – now or in the future – to restore the earlier versions.
Sincerely,We hope you will understand our decision and, again, want to let you know how much we appreciate your interest and enthusiasm.
Lynne Hale
publicity@lucasfilm.com
So basically the BIG DEAL is that you can NOW buy the DVD's SEPRATELY instead of the cheaper boxed set... but here! A BONE! A lowsy original cut transfer.
That's a LUNATIC'S explanation. They all got together and thought "What will make these fanbois BUY this again for no good reason? Let's GIVE THEM WHAT THEY'VE BEEN DYING FOR! And let's make it SUCK.
I read more about it. If you play it on a widescreen HDTV... you get LETTERBOXED view. Box on the sides like you're watching normal TV, PLUS bottom and top bars! WOOOOHOOOOOOOO.
Shayde - SWG (dead)
Proud member of the Cabal.
It sounds great, so great in fact, I pitty those who canceled
I don't like it when you say things. - A Vanguard fan who does too.
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SWG Tempest: Cardo Dycen RIP
Eve: Cardoh Dycen
I support random drug testing for all SOE employees
And as for HD and letter box and any other nonsense . WHO gives A **** ? They are saying they did not want to spend the time or resource restoring what was left of the original film , Oh Well buy it or don't either way none of this is important .
Oh wow you discovered Lucasfilm is a buisness and as capitalist as the next guy . Have a /cookie
Whats that you say ? The Sky Is falling ?!?!? RUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
I would rather have the VERY origional ones that will be comming out soon than the remastered special edition ones, as i dont care for the added scenes, the horrible mapping job on the TIEs, and the shitty Lightsaber colors, oh yea and the entire Jabba's palace mess. I dont give a damn about HD, progressive scan, surround sound and all that. Its nice and all but I dont need it, if youre gonna judge a movie on its sound and video format I think you should look elsewere, since you dont really care about StarWars.
"There's no star system Slave I can't reach, and there's no planet I can't find. There's nowhere in the Galaxy for you to run. Might as well give up now."
Boba Fett
I would rather have the VERY origional ones that will be comming out soon than the remastered special edition ones, as i dont care for the added scenes, the horrible mapping job on the TIEs, and the shitty Lightsaber colors, oh yea and the entire Jabba's palace mess. I dont give a damn about HD, progressive scan, surround sound and all that. Its nice and all but I dont need it, if youre gonna judge a movie on its sound and video format I think you should look elsewere, since you dont really care about StarWars.
I Still have my OG VHs's from the first years they were released ,and each one works perfect . Maybe I should send them to lucas ? lol
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
I would rather have the VERY origional ones that will be comming out soon than the remastered special edition ones, as i dont care for the added scenes, the horrible mapping job on the TIEs, and the shitty Lightsaber colors, oh yea and the entire Jabba's palace mess. I dont give a damn about HD, progressive scan, surround sound and all that. Its nice and all but I dont need it, if youre gonna judge a movie on its sound and video format I think you should look elsewere, since you dont really care about StarWars.
I Still have my OG VHs's from the first years they were released ,and each one works perfect . Maybe I should send them to lucas ? lol
I wish I had those. Im only 20 so I never had the chance to see them in theaters or anything, but ive been into StarWars my whole life basically. I got the THX mastered VHS trilogy that came out in the early 90s, that was the first time I saw the movies, I watched each one about 100 times, literally. I dont think RoTJ works anymore.
"There's no star system Slave I can't reach, and there's no planet I can't find. There's nowhere in the Galaxy for you to run. Might as well give up now."
Boba Fett
I would rather have the VERY origional ones that will be comming out soon than the remastered special edition ones, as i dont care for the added scenes, the horrible mapping job on the TIEs, and the shitty Lightsaber colors, oh yea and the entire Jabba's palace mess. I dont give a damn about HD, progressive scan, surround sound and all that. Its nice and all but I dont need it, if youre gonna judge a movie on its sound and video format I think you should look elsewere, since you dont really care about StarWars.
I Still have my OG VHs's from the first years they were released ,and each one works perfect . Maybe I should send them to lucas ? lol
I wish I had those. Im only 20 so I never had the chance to see them in theaters or anything, but ive been into StarWars my whole life basically. I got the THX mastered VHS trilogy that came out in the early 90s, that was the first time I saw the movies, I watched each one about 100 times, literally. I dont think RoTJ works anymore.
I think that is the only reason they still work , For one when I was young my Mom held on to them lol . Second I bought the THX remasters and put the movies in a glass case with some collectibles . Now they almost look better than watching the THX versions .
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
If i still had a VCR I would compare them. But I actually do think the THX VHS versions (NOT the special edition ones released in the mid-late 90s', but the ones released in the early 90s in the black and blue box, had Vader on "A New Hope" a Stormtrooper on "Empire Strikes Back" and Yoda on "Return of the Jedi") look better than the DVD versions, at least in the VHS ones you couldnt notice the mapping issues on the TIE's and the Lightsaber colors were true. Luke never had a green/white lightsaber.
"There's no star system Slave I can't reach, and there's no planet I can't find. There's nowhere in the Galaxy for you to run. Might as well give up now."
Boba Fett
I wish I had those. Im only 20 so I never had the chance to see them in theaters or anything, but ive been into StarWars my whole life basically. I got the THX mastered VHS trilogy that came out in the early 90s, that was the first time I saw the movies, I watched each one about 100 times, literally. I dont think RoTJ works anymore.
I think that is the only reason they still work , For one when I was young my Mom held on to them lol . Second I bought the THX remasters and put the movies in a glass case with some collectibles . Now they almost look better than watching the THX versions .
If i still had a VCR I would compare them. But I actually do think the THX VHS versions (NOT the special edition ones released in the mid-late 90s', but the ones released in the early 90s in the black and blue box, had Vader on "A New Hope" a Stormtrooper on "Empire Strikes Back" and Yoda on "Return of the Jedi") look better than the DVD versions, at least in the VHS ones you couldnt notice the mapping issues on the TIE's and the Lightsaber colors were true. Luke never had a green/white lightsaber.
Yeah those are what I was comparing them to , I hate the special editions . Jabba looked so bad in Ep4
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Oh yes the VHS boxed set of the original trilogy. I still have that. Haven't watched them in a long time. (Usually I just fire up the DVDs.)
I should get those out and at least FF to the end and rewind them. Tapes are magnetic and there is no A/C in my apt, and if you let them sit too long they can stick and degrade. Heck, maybe I'll just watch them all... it's good movie watching!
I think however that the reasoning for their use of the laser-disk version for this new set is fine... I do think the new set is kind of lame in the sense that there already are DVD versions out. They keep re-packaging the old, the same way Disney does when they keep re-releasing things like Bambi and so on.
On the other hand, every 10 years or so there is a new batch of young'uns that hasn't seen the originals, and after all, these are timeless classics. It's not like most kids who haven't seen them in a few years, won't like SW!
C
Stupid edits? What are you mad? I thought that made it so much better. I always thought "these movies are good, but they really need a 5 minute musical number by computer graphics in a gibberish language." I think they're still too violent, maybe in a future remastering they can replace all the guns with cel phones!
Speaking of which, anyone know the name of the South Park episode where Raiders of the Lost Ark was remastered? I have this sudden desire to down... um... purchase it legally from my local electronics store.
Even the lowliest film released on DVD allows for animorphic widescreen. It actually lets the widescreen fill the HDTV. It would have taken a PITTANCE for them to run it through animorphic rendering.. hell they could probably have a intern on the ranch do it.
But they're lying on the "we just took the transfer" bit from the lasers. The laserdisks had THX quality sound (the eqilivant at the time)... this disk had TWO channel stereo. I have the DVD rips of the laserdisks and it has better sound than 2 channel stereo.
They first marketed it as "What the old-school fan was dying for!" Now they don't even GIVE US A REASON to not use the freaking VHS tapes I still have.
Shayde - SWG (dead)
Proud member of the Cabal.
It sounds great, so great in fact, I pitty those who canceled
I don't like it when you say things. - A Vanguard fan who does too.
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"The man who exchanges Liberty for Iconic classes is a fool deserving of neither." - Me and Ben Franklin
Stupid edits? What are you mad? I thought that made it so much better. I always thought "these movies are good, but they really need a 5 minute musical number by computer graphics in a gibberish language." I think they're still too violent, maybe in a future remastering they can replace all the guns with cel phones!
Speaking of which, anyone know the name of the South Park episode where Raiders of the Lost Ark was remastered? I have this sudden desire to down... um... purchase it legally from my local electronics store.
The edits that I am refering to include Greedo shooting first and the kiss between Luke and Leia. I do not know what other edits were made, do some research if you are that interested.
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SWG - Killed by $OE
WOW - Retired
Playing WAR
The South Park episode is "Free Hat." It's episode 9 from season 6.
Anyway, this is just like Lucasfilm. We all know George Lucas can't tell his hairy ass from an ewok anymore. His edits in the Special edition flat out suck. Han shot first, he was a cold blooded killer.. thats what made his heroic acts at the end of episode 4 so dramatic.
I own a widescreen HDTV. This is bad news, even if you don't have one. No anamorphic widescreen? What? They just crap on art. Like the South Park guys said in "Free Hat," what if the Beatles went back and updated the White Album every few years? Idiots.
I was super pissed off when the out-takes (deleted sceens) were not included in the last DVD set. Does anyone know if this new box will feature the out-takes from episodes 4-6?
I love George Lucas, but man, he has lost it.
I miss the good ol' days when nerds were actually intelligent.
Gredo :"I may even take your ship"
Han: "Over my dead body"
Greedo: "Sounds like a good idea."
I thought Han even showed restraint. I'd have shot him first.. second.. third and maybe even did a little dance afterwards. "How ya like me NOW you green bitch???" probably wouldn't have gotten PG back then.
Shayde - SWG (dead)
Proud member of the Cabal.
It sounds great, so great in fact, I pitty those who canceled
I don't like it when you say things. - A Vanguard fan who does too.
09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Want any VHS tapes? I'm selling all mine in the garage sale. Except for the original tapes of the trilogy... that may finally be our only record that Lucas was sane... once.
Shayde - SWG (dead)
Proud member of the Cabal.
It sounds great, so great in fact, I pitty those who canceled
I don't like it when you say things. - A Vanguard fan who does too.
09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0
Want any VHS tapes? I'm selling all mine in the garage sale. Except for the original tapes of the trilogy... that may finally be our only record that Lucas was sane... once.
HAH believe me , My wife has enough VHS to open up her own blockbuster lol
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Want any VHS tapes? I'm selling all mine in the garage sale. Except for the original tapes of the trilogy... that may finally be our only record that Lucas was sane... once.
HAH believe me , My wife has enough VHS to open up her own blockbuster lol
Babe.. Just think of it. Get a DVD burner/VHS hookup and transfer all that to DVD. Now 100 tapes fit in a space the size of a 100 disk DVD spindle!
It might just double your living space!
Shayde - SWG (dead)
Proud member of the Cabal.
It sounds great, so great in fact, I pitty those who canceled
I don't like it when you say things. - A Vanguard fan who does too.
09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0