"And also tell them to stay away from realworld sizes."
Why? Is it because you enjoy those claustrophobic asian MMclOnesRPG?
MMO's should not be small, channeled nor played on billions of stand-alone servers it should be a world that is able to hold lots of players in the tens of thousand with the given amount of space/area to hold them and much more. ^^
MMORPG does not seem to be the thing for you, as you said yourself.
MMO's need to be as large as a real world as possible in my opinion. I like playing games that feel so big traveling from city to city actually takes some real world time.
I agree we should push for newer un-used game design concepts, but companies prefere to stick to tried and true genres, stuff they know will work. After all they are a business. Just wish some good companies would make a decent sci-fi game. Personally i felt Starcraft was more needed in the mmo world then warcraft.
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Originally posted by frostydf2 Their really is no 'awsome' game out. Everything is stale. that is why everyone is waiting for the next wave of MMORPG's to come out. Whether that be the hardcore pvp'rs in War. The hardcore grinders in Vanguard, the super casual in Conan, or the fun type in Hero's Journey. Your best bet is to wait. By the way. I gave EVE an honest trial. It isn't that great.
It is. Just not for you.
Your absolutly right, you have no real avatar, your can´t controll the ship completly, etc And if thats the things you need in a mmorpg to make it appealing to you, eve is not what you are looking for.
But for people that want a single dynamic, playercontrolled, scifi-universe, where crafting matters, and economics and politics are a driving force of the lore of the world ... well, for those people eve might be the "one" game they were looking for.
Originally posted by Delphian Originally posted by hassan2002 I played WOW for about a year, finished the game and then quited it. Played AO for 3+ years, finished that game as well, would still play it, but the servers are a ghost town now. I tried Guild Wars, and it didnt have a MMORPG vibe to it at all. Very boring. I played tons of Free Trials and Free MMORPGS, like RF, Flyff, Saga of Ryzom, Daoc, planet side ... nothing feel remotly interesting. Ive played so many Korea/Asia games. They are all the god damn same system. Grind, reach lvl 10, choose a class, grind, continue nothingness ....
Is there really no FUN game out there any more? All the game I see are old fart ideas from 6 years ago. I really want to play a MMO with great Trade Skill system and twinking system like AO, easy and thought threw playing system like WOW, is there no game that spark some interest in me any more?
I'm in the same shoes. I play WoW but I'm only SETTLING for WoW 'cause I've TRIED everything... Coincidence that I too came from AO??.. I think not! Everything's a let down since that game. I was an AO junkie back in the day.. It was great; It's just aged to me now.
heh I am in the same boat as you guys -not settling for any game at the moment but AO was my first love and I think it might be very hard to replace that "first-love" feeling. Otherwise I will recommend a break in MMOs while dreaming of hopefully great things to come in AoC and Fallen Earth.
Originally posted by hassan2002 I played WOW for about a year, finished the game and then quited it. Played AO for 3+ years, finished that game as well, would still play it, but the servers are a ghost town now. I tried Guild Wars, and it didnt have a MMORPG vibe to it at all. Very boring. I played tons of Free Trials and Free MMORPGS, like RF, Flyff, Saga of Ryzom, Daoc, planet side ... nothing feel remotly interesting. Ive played so many Korea/Asia games. They are all the god damn same system. Grind, reach lvl 10, choose a class, grind, continue nothingness ....
Is there really no FUN game out there any more? All the game I see are old fart ideas from 6 years ago. I really want to play a MMO with great Trade Skill system and twinking system like AO, easy and thought threw playing system like WOW, is there no game that spark some interest in me any more?
You could try one of the many niche games. Tale in the desert 3, Seed, Horizons (great crafting). Or even pick up *shock* Star Wars - Galaxies *shock* It doesn't have the depth it once had but all the winers went away too! Its surprisingly refreshing.
try gunz a little bit... after getting to level 35+ it kinda started getting boring but with all the new stuff the people are making up like attack and defend, other match that people make rules for but cannot enforce them with anything but a vote to kick people... it is actully fun because i find there will be ALWAYS someone better than u no matter what and also when the quests come out.. o boy its gonna be fun(high expectations here)
here my little pros & cons for each mmog i played during June/July:
stars rating: - : Sux, * : so so, ** : average, *** : good but still need some iimprovements
- WarRock (FPS mmog) *** Pro: good engine, good UI, Fast action paced, a mix of CS and Joint operations, user skill based Con: still some bug like falling damage, cannot set the controls (that a korean typical thing)
- Hero Online: * Pro: the Background: martial arts mmog first title, i know of (9 Dragons folowing) Con: Dumb mob AI (only 3 Aggro, have to train) Potion Fest (make an auto pot macro? ) the Gameplay: Skill 1, pot, Skill 2, pot, Skill 3, pot, Skill 1, pot, Skill 2, pot, Skill 3, repeat ... Vendor.... repeat ... Quests reqs: either the mobs to kill are under lvl or way beyond Grind on +10lv mobs, i dont see any balance The UI, the Npc movie dialog Loot Fest : G G G G G G G G G G G G G .... anyway this game is meant to be boted
- Last Chaos: - Pro: AFK Mining and Crafting OMG Con: Grind, Grind, Click attack Fest, the UI
- Cabal Online: * Pro: Queue Skill, WASD KEY MOUVEMENT THANKS YOU MINDFULL KOREAN DEV Con: Dumb Small Zones, AI, Portal, repeat skills, i did Hate the kill quests (go to A -load back to B -load then C -load, go to B then A follow C etc.... anyway its just dumb running around. i were suprized they add so Much textual content for that bs
- Space Cowboy Online: *** Pro: good Dogfight, i did like the gameplay Con: too Small Zones, z-index too low, PvP Gate Camping, Grind after lv40, lack of content (maps, mobs, items diversity, missions beyond lv40, etc) aslo the whole mission system is stupid (kill X mobs get half a level) gaining more credits leveling 1 to 15 than 15 to 40+. only one active mission at the time. need Custom UI and controls
- Silkroad Online: ** Pro: Trade routes and Jobs innovation, skill tree seems ok. Historical look Con: Mobs model are such a joke sometimes even the terrain itself, Grind, Hacks, Macro Mandatory to connect during peak times.
- Deicide: - Pro: Class system (Maybe) Con: Npc broken, Ui sux, bad camera angle, point and click move, bad engine, felt like i played a wc3 open rpg scenario but in worse.
- Gunz Online: * Pro: Fun, Fast action Con: but you may get bored at end by the repetitiveness, i dont know if there still hacks. but i hv seen some cheating last time i tryed out.
- Auto Assault: ** Pro: Cars, Speed Con: Chain mission terminal IS boring, the mobs are too so i wont tell you about the grind factor
Well at end no mmorpg really hook me, lately the most fun i had was with Prey. i also did like Titan Quest
Originally posted by hassan2002 I played WOW for about a year, finished the game and then quited it. Played AO for 3+ years, finished that game as well, would still play it, but the servers are a ghost town now. I tried Guild Wars, and it didnt have a MMORPG vibe to it at all. Very boring. I played tons of Free Trials and Free MMORPGS, like RF, Flyff, Saga of Ryzom, Daoc, planet side ... nothing feel remotly interesting. Ive played so many Korea/Asia games. They are all the god damn same system. Grind, reach lvl 10, choose a class, grind, continue nothingness ....
Is there really no FUN game out there any more? All the game I see are old fart ideas from 6 years ago. I really want to play a MMO with great Trade Skill system and twinking system like AO, easy and thought threw playing system like WOW, is there no game that spark some interest in me any more?
man all the games i play all have pro and cons i never found a perfect game for me i been playing ragnarok (its my type of game so shut up XD) reason y u feel like u can't find a game to play is cus u haven't found the right game for u i know peeps that like to grind i know peeps the LOVE to pvp and i know peeps that just like quest and lvlin u'll find a game u prolly just over looked it or u just grew out of MMORPGs dunno bout u but im a gamer fo life
Was also in the same position. I am currently playing EVE, I understand why some think it dull, prob is it really does take you about 3 months before you can get into the parts of the game that are interesting. There isn't much you can do about it either with its real time training system. I still like it though and I can see the potential it has for me in the future even if it isn't that much fun at the moment.
I plan to play Conan when it comes out and the good news for me is that my guild who I played WoW with are also moving so I already have a guild for it with people I have played with for about a year. I plan to keep EVE running side by side and train up so I will have something for when I stop playing Conan. For now I play EVE and BF2 though (if only they would fix the air so it isn't so overpowered ).
I still have an active WoW account but I haven't touched it for about 3 weeks now, I just can't be arsed to log on.....but still too attached to my char to cancel the sub
i think all the game designers are just playing wow and not really putting any effort into their games :P too busy farming bwl and raiding naxx!!!!!!!!
i played wow for about 18 months but stopped as i was playing it far too much :O now im mmorpg-less was gonna start playing eve again, as its the only good other mmo atm but im just playing bf2 . Other than crap the only games im waiting on in the 12 months is warhammer online.... and company of heroes... GET OFF YOU ASSES GAME DESIGNERS TWO DECENT GAMES IN A 1 YEAR PERIOD!!!!! COME ON!!!!
It's nice to see I'm not the only one that thinks there's nothing good to play anymore. I even went back to UO because I loved sailing my ship, gathering herbs, and making stuff for my small marble back in the day.. but man the graphics suck. I wish they'd redo it because they have so much content and I love being able to have a horse, pets, sail my ship across the seas and have a place to come home to. I'm definitely going to check out Age of Conan. I've also been giving EVE a try... it's so boring. The only thing I like is the soothing voice of the ship's computer and the soundtrack. The space scenery is beautiful too but that's about it. Ryzom bores me too. I've tried Hero Online and Silkroad.. bored now. I've also done Shadowbane, Horizons, SWG, EQ2, WoW, and DAOC. *sigh* AOC open up beta already!
UO still does it for me.. I have tried just about everything but they all seem to lack something we look for in MMoRPG. I feel most games lack a sense of community and the ability to create something personal. UO still does this for me even though the graphics are subpar, nothing much beat hanging out at brit bank with your mates, repairing armor by the smithy while smashing out a few hundred plate gorgets to raise your smithing.. and houses.. the ability to create and decorate your own housing, all games should have this.
Other games I'd probably recommend at this time would be Horizons and perhaps A Tale in the Desert.
Played WOW untill my eyes burn, so I got tired of it... I'm really putting a lot of hope in LOTRO, but that game is only out in late 2006 if it is ready by then.
Originally posted by tryklon All guys out there without game to play...lol...just give a look to Last Chaos, its worth a try... go on
*thinks* nope sorry.
playing AO til STO
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You should try Eve-online.. There is no standard: "kill this and get stronger" system They also have a 10day trial.. Click You should give it a try.. It is worth it
eve doesnt work for me because firstly i tried it and i dont like the combat system, and i dont really interest in sspace ships that look awkward.. and i just think that the whole place is warp warp warp... although its very revolutionary as a game... but its just not my type.
right now i want some gundam type game and ill be fine... the thing is no one is even bothered because everyone wants to make medieval fantasies.. i mean ffs come on you devs, those kind of games are flooding at us and we cant even breathe
The only True Game I remmember and love and always go back to is Shadowbane
I bought and played COV, WOW, EQ2, AO, All those Korean Games And tons more bored me out but i enjoyed playing Shadowbane for some reason it doesnt have quests really its just a go out Kill things build up your character, build a kingdom/shops wage war with other kingdoms take over land and become a god... basically a guild game But sweet as hell
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Why? Is it because you enjoy those claustrophobic asian MMclOnesRPG?
MMO's should not be small, channeled nor played on billions of stand-alone servers it should be a world that is able to hold lots of players in the tens of thousand with the given amount of space/area to hold them and much more. ^^
MMORPG does not seem to be the thing for you, as you said yourself.
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MMO's need to be as large as a real world as possible in my opinion. I like playing games that feel so big traveling from city to city actually takes some real world time.
I agree we should push for newer un-used game design concepts, but companies prefere to stick to tried and true genres, stuff they know will work. After all they are a business. Just wish some good companies would make a decent sci-fi game. Personally i felt Starcraft was more needed in the mmo world then warcraft.
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and none here says nothing about city of heros/city of villians...sigh...
those 2 are THE BEST MMORPGS when it comes to fun factor IMO
i played wow for 4 months gw for about 2 years almost 1 year of ao and like 3 years of diablo
and played cov coh for 28 days
and by far
i mean by very very far its the best game i ever played
the only problem is that its a ghost town most of the time (there are only like 2 severs that are populated)
but that game is insanly fun
and if u had gw factions or regualr gw u should have the 14 day free trials there
Just not for you.
Your absolutly right, you have no real avatar, your can´t controll the ship completly, etc
And if thats the things you need in a mmorpg to make it appealing to you,
eve is not what you are looking for.
But for people that want a single dynamic, playercontrolled, scifi-universe, where crafting matters, and economics and politics are a driving force of the lore of the world ... well, for those people eve might be the "one" game they were looking for.
If you are into MMORPGs that are kinda traditional, wait for Zera or rohan
if you are looking for action try gunZ, rakion, or Infinity
RTS...? I dunno i don't play any.
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last chaos is good if not better than cabal, cabal is still good but not enough content yet.
I'm in the same shoes. I play WoW but I'm only SETTLING for WoW 'cause I've TRIED everything... Coincidence that I too came from AO??.. I think not! Everything's a let down since that game. I was an AO junkie back in the day.. It was great; It's just aged to me now.
heh I am in the same boat as you guys
-not settling for any game at the moment but AO was my first love and I think it might be very hard to replace that "first-love" feeling. Otherwise I will recommend a break in MMOs while dreaming of hopefully great things to come in AoC and Fallen Earth.
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here my little pros & cons for each mmog i played during June/July:
stars rating: - : Sux, * : so so, ** : average, *** : good but still need some iimprovements
- WarRock (FPS mmog) ***
Pro: good engine, good UI, Fast action paced, a mix of CS and Joint operations, user skill based
Con: still some bug like falling damage, cannot set the controls (that a korean typical thing)
- Hero Online: *
Pro: the Background: martial arts mmog first title, i know of (9 Dragons folowing)
Con: Dumb mob AI (only 3 Aggro, have to train)
Potion Fest (make an auto pot macro?
the Gameplay: Skill 1, pot, Skill 2, pot, Skill 3, pot, Skill 1, pot, Skill 2, pot, Skill 3, repeat ... Vendor.... repeat ...
Quests reqs: either the mobs to kill are under lvl or way beyond
Grind on +10lv mobs, i dont see any balance
The UI, the Npc movie dialog
Loot Fest : G G G G G G G G G G G G G ....
anyway this game is meant to be boted
- Last Chaos: -
Pro: AFK Mining and Crafting OMG
Con: Grind, Grind, Click attack Fest, the UI
- Cabal Online: *
Pro: Queue Skill, WASD KEY MOUVEMENT THANKS YOU MINDFULL KOREAN DEV
Con: Dumb Small Zones, AI, Portal, repeat skills,
i did Hate the kill quests (go to A -load back to B -load then C -load, go to B then A follow C etc.... anyway its just dumb running around.
i were suprized they add so Much textual content for that bs
- Space Cowboy Online: ***
Pro: good Dogfight, i did like the gameplay
Con: too Small Zones, z-index too low, PvP Gate Camping, Grind after lv40,
lack of content (maps, mobs, items diversity, missions beyond lv40, etc)
aslo the whole mission system is stupid (kill X mobs get half a level)
gaining more credits leveling 1 to 15 than 15 to 40+.
only one active mission at the time. need Custom UI and controls
- Silkroad Online: **
Pro: Trade routes and Jobs innovation, skill tree seems ok. Historical look
Con: Mobs model are such a joke sometimes even the terrain itself,
Grind, Hacks,
Macro Mandatory to connect during peak times.
- Deicide: -
Pro: Class system (Maybe)
Con: Npc broken, Ui sux, bad camera angle, point and click move, bad engine,
felt like i played a wc3 open rpg scenario but in worse.
- Gunz Online: *
Pro: Fun, Fast action
Con: but you may get bored at end by the repetitiveness,
i dont know if there still hacks. but i hv seen some cheating last time i tryed out.
- Auto Assault: **
Pro: Cars, Speed
Con: Chain mission terminal IS boring, the mobs are too so i wont tell you about the grind factor
Well at end no mmorpg really hook me, lately the most fun i had was with Prey. i also did like Titan Quest
man all the games i play all have pro and cons i never found a perfect game for me i been playing ragnarok (its my type of game so shut up XD) reason y u feel like u can't find a game to play is cus u haven't found the right game for u i know peeps that like to grind
u'll find a game u prolly just over looked it or u just grew out of MMORPGs dunno bout u but im a gamer fo life
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Was also in the same position. I am currently playing EVE, I understand why some think it dull, prob is it really does take you about 3 months before you can get into the parts of the game that are interesting. There isn't much you can do about it either with its real time training system. I still like it though and I can see the potential it has for me in the future even if it isn't that much fun at the moment.
I plan to play Conan when it comes out and the good news for me is that my guild who I played WoW with are also moving so I already have a guild for it with people I have played with for about a year. I plan to keep EVE running side by side and train up so I will have something for when I stop playing Conan. For now I play EVE and BF2 though (if only they would fix the air so it isn't so overpowered
).
I still have an active WoW account but I haven't touched it for about 3 weeks now, I just can't be arsed to log on.....but still too attached to my char to cancel the sub
i think all the game designers are just playing wow and not really putting any effort into their games :P too busy farming bwl and raiding naxx!!!!!!!!
i played wow for about 18 months but stopped as i was playing it far too much :O now im mmorpg-less
was gonna start playing eve again, as its the only good other mmo atm but im just playing bf2 . Other than crap the only games im waiting on in the 12 months is warhammer online.... and company of heroes... GET OFF YOU ASSES GAME DESIGNERS TWO DECENT GAMES IN A 1 YEAR PERIOD!!!!! COME ON!!!!
Other games I'd probably recommend at this time would be Horizons and perhaps A Tale in the Desert.
I'm in the same boat here
Played WOW untill my eyes burn, so I got tired of it... I'm really putting a lot of hope in LOTRO, but that game is only out in late 2006 if it is ready by then.
playing AO til STO
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You should give it a try.. It is worth it
right now i want some gundam type game and ill be fine... the thing is no one is even bothered because everyone wants to make medieval fantasies.. i mean ffs come on you devs, those kind of games are flooding at us and we cant even breathe
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I bought and played COV, WOW, EQ2, AO, All those Korean Games And tons more bored me out but i enjoyed playing Shadowbane for some reason it doesnt have quests really its just a go out Kill things build up your character, build a kingdom/shops wage war with other kingdoms take over land and become a god... basically a guild game But sweet as hell
well i used to play swg for a long time:)
I really liked it, then they changed the game, to something i really dont like...
I hope someday that someone will make a game like swg was in the past:)
Imo it had it all.... crafting of all sorts, even creatures as I personaly like alot:)
not to mention the great connection between noobs, and elder.