Right now, if you have an ATI card with Catalyst 6.4 or higher I would say no. Apparently the game is not compatable with anything above Catalyst 6.3 on a wide swath of video cards (including mine). I paid the money and signed up. Tried to play but couldn't due to graphical glitches.
I checked out their forums to find a fix, but noticed that everyone else with ATI cards was saying the only way to play the game was to revert back to 6.3 (which I will not do since the later versions fix some issues on my x1900 xt).
That being said, I cant' really tell you how the game plays since I haven't been able to play it yet...
Keep an eye on it. Im still in observational mode with this game. I will not drop $50.00 on a game that is missing alot of content and is buggy.
I can't believe people are blindly dropping money on this game and will pay month after month until the game starts getting fixed, if it ever gets fixed. From whats happened in the past few years it doesn't look like they are in much of a hurry.
Don't be terrorized! You're more likely to die of a car accident, drowning, fire, or murder! More people die every year from prescription drugs than terrorism LOL!
These companies continually release garbage like this with impunity because people always say, "well i'm giving it a chance, I hope the fix some issues."
Just dont play the goddamn game at all!!
At this stage in the world of mmos, this type of release is beyond unacceptable. Don't but it now, or tomorrow or next month!!
We can't continually allow these assholes to feed us shit and thank them for it.
Originally posted by Ulrick28 Right now, if you have an ATI card with Catalyst 6.4 or higher I would say no. Apparently the game is not compatable with anything above Catalyst 6.3 on a wide swath of video cards (including mine). I paid the money and signed up. Tried to play but couldn't due to graphical glitches. I checked out their forums to find a fix, but noticed that everyone else with ATI cards was saying the only way to play the game was to revert back to 6.3 (which I will not do since the later versions fix some issues on my x1900 xt). That being said, I cant' really tell you how the game plays since I haven't been able to play it yet...
So Sorry to hear. I have an ATI Radeon X800 pro and the latest catalyst version and I have no probelms (other than the lag everyone has).
I would say if 60 dollars is easy for you to justify spending on a game then yesl. If you at all need the money more than a cure for boredom then don't get Dark and Light. It's super laggy, lots of bugs and glitches.
For me 60 bucks is no big deal so I bought it. Just was bored today and got it to kill an afternoon. I have 2 gigs of ram and put the game on its highest possible settings and its pretty laggy, but I love the look and style of the world. The graphics while laggy are super sweet at times. Sunsets and lighting in particular are awesome. I just like it, but I like every game for what it is.
Huge potential, but you don't get ratings for a finished game based on potential. I won't have to pay a monthly fee though, so I'm kinda stoked to see how it turns out.
I am having fun... But hey, I guees I am the only one!!! No this game is far from complete, But since I hate those WOW clones, I don't care about quests, all I wanna do is to level up and PVP, this game is perfect for me, it brings me the old swg feel back
I agree people need to stop supporting these bad games, companies are just shoving out crap these days to make a quick buck. And wether or not you like WOW, EQ2, Ultima Online, Guildwars, City of Heroes to name a few. The bottom line is these games are far superior to this crap and if there going to make you pay for it, it should at least be on par with these games, or offer a totally different experience. And horrible lag and being unplayable doesnt count as a different experience :P
I would like them to consider comparing it against the most CURRENT releases and the state of their releases:
D&DO
Auto Assault
RFO
All three had near perfect launches. Content was in. Promised Features were in. Stability was there. Heck, everything you count pts in for a release, these most recent releases were damn near perfect.
I am not saying that everyone loved them. They all are pretty much niche or poorly thot out but that doesnt mean others dont like playing them. And why? Because its playable, has been playable, dare i say it, since at least its last Beta and the open stress on all the games showed how near perfect the release was going to be.
Thats what Farceland and NPFleece needs to get ahold of and educate their shills about. It could very well be the game to end all games but the hard fact is, currently what they released is barely tolerated in a beta any longer (cough Vanguard problems cough). Compare WOW, EQ2, SWG all you want. They released two years ago. In just that short span, the demand has skyrocketed and why? Those games were playable, albeit missing SOME content, a bit buggy, etc but it was FUN to play and it brought tons of ppl who have never experienced mmo's before.
I have said it a thousand times and I will say it again. The current and near future mmo players are more sophisticated, more puter savvy than even a year ago. The advancements in the portable games , the playstations, the xboxes alone demand the same overall quality in their games online. More and more people are coming on the internet. Its the same as a TV in every home, so now its the computer. Popularity in mmo's is gaining in almost astounding rate due not only to the world loggin on, the consumer being much more puter savvy, the publicity these games have made but also because of the amazing immersion and playability. Savvy developers know this and understand that.The Devs are the ones in the hot seat, not the player. Some have even started on the dual core technology that will be commonplace in alot of gamers in the near future and wil take a little longer in the average Mr and Mrs Cleaver household but the Devs understand the trend and have already started on the next dual core games.
The average player (from a recent survey related on the local tv news) for a mmo is 29yrs+. The devs know and understand this. More and more people are coming to the mmo's. The smart Devs are ready for them. The shucksters will get left in the dust. Its big boy time in the mmo world.Saddle up.
Originally posted by Briansho Keep an eye on it. Im still in observational mode with this game. I will not drop $50.00 on a game that is missing alot of content and is buggy.
I can't believe people are blindly dropping money on this game and will pay month after month until the game starts getting fixed, if it ever gets fixed. From whats happened in the past few years it doesn't look like they are in much of a hurry.
Instead of bringing people only half of the facts and presenting them as fact, you are doing a disservice.
If you go to the website of DnL you will find that there are 2 sorts of subscriptions: a) Master Subscriber, where you indeed do pay on a monthly basis or b) a Freedom Subscriber, where there is NO monthly fee involved. The latter account does impose some limitations on advancement of character, but it can all be read on the website.
So you can play month after month WITHOUT paying while the game is getting fixed as well. It's a choice and that choice is one you have to make for yourself.
Originally posted by 7Fold I agree people need to stop supporting these bad games, companies are just shoving out crap these days to make a quick buck. And wether or not you like WOW, EQ2, Ultima Online, Guildwars, City of Heroes to name a few. The bottom line is these games are far superior to this crap and if there going to make you pay for it, it should at least be on par with these games, or offer a totally different experience. And horrible lag and being unplayable doesnt count as a different experience :P
That's your opinion: DnL being crap. Fine. It tells me a little about you. I won't call other games crap. The only thing I'd call a POS is SWG-NGE, but for that I have my reasons.
The other games are good because they existed for a while and used what was available at the time. DnL is trying and pushing the limits. Some see it like I do: a game with potential to become a next gen MMORPG. And you probably know that a lot of first attempts at something new are not allways going well, or even being liked. So be it.
As for horrible lag: never experienced it myself... As for unplayable: well, because I can't login right now, it's unplayable, but that doesn't mean that when I can get in again it's still unplayable. I find myself having plenty to do.
Last but not least, it's showing how narrow mindset people have: you DON'T have to pay for DnL on a monthly basis.
Originally posted by Cholayna I would like them to consider comparing it against the most CURRENT releases and the state of their releases: D&DO Auto Assault RFO All three had near perfect launches. Content was in. Promised Features were in. Stability was there. Heck, everything you count pts in for a release, these most recent releases were damn near perfect. I am not saying that everyone loved them. They all are pretty much niche or poorly thot out but that doesnt mean others dont like playing them. And why? Because its playable, has been playable, dare i say it, since at least its last Beta and the open stress on all the games showed how near perfect the release was going to be. Thats what Farceland and NPFleece needs to get ahold of and educate their shills about. It could very well be the game to end all games but the hard fact is, currently what they released is barely tolerated in a beta any longer (cough Vanguard problems cough). Compare WOW, EQ2, SWG all you want. They released two years ago. In just that short span, the demand has skyrocketed and why? Those games were playable, albeit missing SOME content, a bit buggy, etc but it was FUN to play and it brought tons of ppl who have never experienced mmo's before. I have said it a thousand times and I will say it again. The current and near future mmo players are more sophisticated, more puter savvy than even a year ago. The advancements in the portable games , the playstations, the xboxes alone demand the same overall quality in their games online. More and more people are coming on the internet. Its the same as a TV in every home, so now its the computer. Popularity in mmo's is gaining in almost astounding rate due not only to the world loggin on, the consumer being much more puter savvy, the publicity these games have made but also because of the amazing immersion and playability. Savvy developers know this and understand that.The Devs are the ones in the hot seat, not the player. Some have even started on the dual core technology that will be commonplace in alot of gamers in the near future and wil take a little longer in the average Mr and Mrs Cleaver household but the Devs understand the trend and have already started on the next dual core games. The average player (from a recent survey related on the local tv news) for a mmo is 29yrs+. The devs know and understand this. More and more people are coming to the mmo's. The smart Devs are ready for them. The shucksters will get left in the dust. Its big boy time in the mmo world.Saddle up.
** jeez I need a drink now LOL
Good read. Like to comment some tho... I've been a tester in DDO and yes, it went smoothly. However, I got bored with DDO real quickly. Why: because of lack of choice... IT's all guided, from one part to another. I like to have freedom inside to do whatever I want. AA and RFO i never looked at.
Your insinuation of DnL not being playable (which I got from the lines emphasized above) to me is completely untrue. It is playable (when you can get in that is ) but not for some.
Some like to be guided/toured around, doing newbie stuff and taken by their hands, with not too much reading and get helped from Level 1 to level whatever. Others don't. DnL is meant for the latter group. The first group should go play WoW, DDO, SWG-NGE, these are aimed for that demographic.
It's my hunch that more mature people (which has nothing to do with age btw. I have seen/heard more maturity from kids again 10-15 then from supposedly mature adults ranging in age from 25-40) will look for games that provide an immersive, challenging world. That was what SWG made popular to begin with (and that is a whole different discussion which I'm not going into right now) and kept afloat a long time.
Originally posted by Dabble Originally posted by Nabatam Originally posted by Avayat-
Last but not least, it's showing how narrow mindset people have: you DON'T have to pay for DnL on a monthly basis.
You still have to pay $55 to start playing, and in my opinion it is certainly not worth it (not even by far).
Don't bother with Avayat, Nabatam.
He is an obvious shill, getting paid to post here and deceive people about this PoS
You should keep quiet. I called your bluff in another thread already. You have no proof whatsoever that I supposedly are working for Farlan/AD whereas I'm willing to provide ANY information needed to show I'm not affiliated with them at all.
"You should keep quiet. I called your bluff in another thread already. You have no proof whatsoever that I supposedly are working for Farlan/AD whereas I'm willing to provide ANY information needed to show I'm not affiliated with them at all.
Reported for personal attack."
Report me all you like. What will happen? I won't be able to post for a few hours? Oh no.
And by the way, more than likely the firm that is paying you probably isn't directly connected to Farlan/AD.
Originally posted by Avayat- Originally posted by Dabble I'm just trying to speak truth to power, brother
You don't speak the truth when you talk about my "job/profession".
and for your information, it's time for me to leave for work which happens to be an Systems Administrator/developer in the Healthcare sector.
Have fun trolling and flaming people... This is my last post to you.
Leave it be Dabble - its what they wanted from the start. Tis a pattern they have. Flame bait and then report you for flaming hoping they can shut you up.
I don't consider what I'm doing flaming. But notice how when someone makes a post with this title, the shills jump on it. Therefore, as a favor to the OP, I thought it best to expose these frauds for who they are before he gets stuck paying for this garbage.
P.S. Actually I haven't really exposed anyone. But if you have anything positive to say about this mmorpg in the year 2006, then you GOTTA being paid to do so. Now if we were in 1994, this game be would just ok
Originally posted by Dabble I don't consider what I'm doing flaming. But notice how when someone makes a post with this title, the shills jump on it. Therefore, as a favor to the OP, I thought it best to expose these frauds for who they are before he gets stuck paying for this garbage. P.S. Actually I haven't really exposed anyone. But if you have anything positive to say about this mmorpg in the year 2006, then you GOTTA being paid to do so. Now if we were in 1994, this game be would just ok
I didnt either but they will take the smallest thing, just like the DNL boards and accuse you of it,. I have had it happen to me. Jon helped me with it and everything is fine. I suggest if they keep up what they are doing, let Jon know.Drop him a line. He really is a decent fellow and understands the forums.
And yes indeed you will be flamed and tarred if you so much as leak a fraction of what may be the truth. There is an old saying about those "who protest too much"..... egad wish i could remember the exact wording but it was also brought up in that catch the liar tv game show. They try to figure out if what you are saying is the truth or a lie and they give little hints to try and see if you can spot the lie or the truth. Its extremely interesting. Me thinketh he protests too much.
Which really, if you look back at one example is the adamant claim that the SOG fiasco was not a beta of DNL.They protested against that until it came outta our ears! Some of the forsaken fanbois have still not grasped the truth of that matter even after the devs themselves admitted more than once that SOG was indeed the beta for DNL. The more they protest otherwise, the louder and more biligerent they get about the statements made in truth, even when backed up with evidence, the closer and closer you get to the real truth until finally its in their face, for all the world to see and they turn around, without batting an eye mind you, they turn around and say 'we never said otherwise". Sigh....its a vicous circle with these people - Farceland/NpFleece/AllChemicals Dreams/Devs-who-are-mods-who-are-fanbois/ -- a vicious circle of webs they have caught themselves up in and continue to do so on a constant basis. People are more likely now to believe even more outrageous things than the poor hateboi could ever think of than to believe one simple honest statement from Farlan and Company.
Quick return while having a break at work... You know what guys... I see there is no point in trying to put some sense into those close minds, so from here on I will only comment on people that act maturily and really want to discuss the state of DnL and not those who are reacting blindled by their anger, their presumptions and all those negative influences.
Every poster here that cannot say anything without calling names, spouting gossip will be completely ignored by me. Just too bad there isn't a filter forum to filter out people on one's blacklist.
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usually i reply by saying no
but i could reply by saying
just click on any of the threads and reading it
or
check out the game rating on mmorpg.com
or
waste 60 bucks and try it out
PS. sorry not usually like this bad mood
Right now, if you have an ATI card with Catalyst 6.4 or higher I would say no. Apparently the game is not compatable with anything above Catalyst 6.3 on a wide swath of video cards (including mine). I paid the money and signed up. Tried to play but couldn't due to graphical glitches.
I checked out their forums to find a fix, but noticed that everyone else with ATI cards was saying the only way to play the game was to revert back to 6.3 (which I will not do since the later versions fix some issues on my x1900 xt).
That being said, I cant' really tell you how the game plays since I haven't been able to play it yet...
I can't believe people are blindly dropping money on this game and will pay month after month until the game starts getting fixed, if it ever gets fixed. From whats happened in the past few years it doesn't look like they are in much of a hurry.
Don't be terrorized! You're more likely to die of a car accident, drowning, fire, or murder! More people die every year from prescription drugs than terrorism LOL!
DO NOT BUY THIS GAME!!
These companies continually release garbage like this with impunity because people always say, "well i'm giving it a chance, I hope the fix some issues."
Just dont play the goddamn game at all!!
At this stage in the world of mmos, this type of release is beyond unacceptable. Don't but it now, or tomorrow or next month!!
We can't continually allow these assholes to feed us shit and thank them for it.
So Sorry to hear. I have an ATI Radeon X800 pro and the latest catalyst version and I have no probelms (other than the lag everyone has).
I would say if 60 dollars is easy for you to justify spending on a game then yesl. If you at all need the money more than a cure for boredom then don't get Dark and Light. It's super laggy, lots of bugs and glitches.
For me 60 bucks is no big deal so I bought it. Just was bored today and got it to kill an afternoon. I have 2 gigs of ram and put the game on its highest possible settings and its pretty laggy, but I love the look and style of the world. The graphics while laggy are super sweet at times. Sunsets and lighting in particular are awesome. I just like it, but I like every game for what it is.
Huge potential, but you don't get ratings for a finished game based on potential. I won't have to pay a monthly fee though, so I'm kinda stoked to see how it turns out.
People don't ask questions to get answers - they ask questions to show how smart they are. - Dogbert
I agree people need to stop supporting these bad games, companies are just shoving out crap these days to make a quick buck. And wether or not you like WOW, EQ2, Ultima Online, Guildwars, City of Heroes to name a few. The bottom line is these games are far superior to this crap and if there going to make you pay for it, it should at least be on par with these games, or offer a totally different experience. And horrible lag and being unplayable doesnt count as a different experience :P
I would like them to consider comparing it against the most CURRENT releases and the state of their releases:
D&DO
Auto Assault
RFO
All three had near perfect launches. Content was in. Promised Features were in. Stability was there. Heck, everything you count pts in for a release, these most recent releases were damn near perfect.
I am not saying that everyone loved them. They all are pretty much niche or poorly thot out but that doesnt mean others dont like playing them. And why? Because its playable, has been playable, dare i say it, since at least its last Beta and the open stress on all the games showed how near perfect the release was going to be.
Thats what Farceland and NPFleece needs to get ahold of and educate their shills about. It could very well be the game to end all games but the hard fact is, currently what they released is barely tolerated in a beta any longer (cough Vanguard problems cough). Compare WOW, EQ2, SWG all you want. They released two years ago. In just that short span, the demand has skyrocketed and why? Those games were playable, albeit missing SOME content, a bit buggy, etc but it was FUN to play and it brought tons of ppl who have never experienced mmo's before.
I have said it a thousand times and I will say it again. The current and near future mmo players are more sophisticated, more puter savvy than even a year ago. The advancements in the portable games , the playstations, the xboxes alone demand the same overall quality in their games online. More and more people are coming on the internet. Its the same as a TV in every home, so now its the computer. Popularity in mmo's is gaining in almost astounding rate due not only to the world loggin on, the consumer being much more puter savvy, the publicity these games have made but also because of the amazing immersion and playability. Savvy developers know this and understand that.The Devs are the ones in the hot seat, not the player. Some have even started on the dual core technology that will be commonplace in alot of gamers in the near future and wil take a little longer in the average Mr and Mrs Cleaver household but the Devs understand the trend and have already started on the next dual core games.
The average player (from a recent survey related on the local tv news) for a mmo is 29yrs+. The devs know and understand this. More and more people are coming to the mmo's. The smart Devs are ready for them. The shucksters will get left in the dust. Its big boy time in the mmo world.Saddle up.
** jeez I need a drink now LOL
If you go to the website of DnL you will find that there are 2 sorts of subscriptions:
a) Master Subscriber, where you indeed do pay on a monthly basis
or
b) a Freedom Subscriber, where there is NO monthly fee involved.
The latter account does impose some limitations on advancement of character, but it can all be read on the website.
So you can play month after month WITHOUT paying while the game is getting fixed as well.
It's a choice and that choice is one you have to make for yourself.
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The other games are good because they existed for a while and used what was available at the time. DnL is trying and pushing the limits. Some see it like I do: a game with potential to become a next gen MMORPG. And you probably know that a lot of first attempts at something new are not allways going well, or even being liked. So be it.
As for horrible lag: never experienced it myself...
As for unplayable: well, because I can't login right now, it's unplayable, but that doesn't mean that when I can get in again it's still unplayable. I find myself having plenty to do.
Last but not least, it's showing how narrow mindset people have: you DON'T have to pay for DnL on a monthly basis.
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Dariane Tracker
You still have to pay $55 to start playing, and in my opinion it is certainly not worth it (not even by far).
Your insinuation of DnL not being playable (which I got from the lines emphasized above) to me is completely untrue. It is playable (when you can get in that is ) but not for some.
Some like to be guided/toured around, doing newbie stuff and taken by their hands, with not too much reading and get helped from Level 1 to level whatever. Others don't. DnL is meant for the latter group. The first group should go play WoW, DDO, SWG-NGE, these are aimed for that demographic.
It's my hunch that more mature people (which has nothing to do with age btw. I have seen/heard more maturity from kids again 10-15 then from supposedly mature adults ranging in age from 25-40) will look for games that provide an immersive, challenging world. That was what SWG made popular to begin with (and that is a whole different discussion which I'm not going into right now) and kept afloat a long time.
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You still have to pay $55 to start playing, and in my opinion it is certainly not worth it (not even by far).
Don't bother with Avayat, Nabatam.
He is an obvious shill, getting paid to post here and deceive people about this PoS
You still have to pay $55 to start playing, and in my opinion it is certainly not worth it (not even by far).
To that, I agree... $55 for a download is over the top.
It would be wise for them to lower it, like say $15 or so (Free subscription as well). Maybe more people would be inclined to just give it a try.
But I have no influence on that, even tho some people are convinced I'm working for Farlan/AD
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You still have to pay $55 to start playing, and in my opinion it is certainly not worth it (not even by far).
Don't bother with Avayat, Nabatam.
He is an obvious shill, getting paid to post here and deceive people about this PoS
You should keep quiet. I called your bluff in another thread already. You have no proof whatsoever that I supposedly are working for Farlan/AD whereas I'm willing to provide ANY information needed to show I'm not affiliated with them at all.
Reported for personal attack.
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"You should keep quiet. I called your bluff in another thread already. You have no proof whatsoever that I supposedly are working for Farlan/AD whereas I'm willing to provide ANY information needed to show I'm not affiliated with them at all.
Reported for personal attack."
Report me all you like. What will happen? I won't be able to post for a few hours? Oh no.
And by the way, more than likely the firm that is paying you probably isn't directly connected to Farlan/AD.
down dabble!
if you get into flamewars and banned the fanbois win!
and for your information, it's time for me to leave for work which happens to be an Systems Administrator/developer in the Healthcare sector.
Have fun trolling and flaming people... This is my last post to you.
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and for your information, it's time for me to leave for work which happens to be an Systems Administrator/developer in the Healthcare sector.
Have fun trolling and flaming people... This is my last post to you.
Leave it be Dabble - its what they wanted from the start. Tis a pattern they have. Flame bait and then report you for flaming hoping they can shut you up.
Dont lower yourself to the flame bait my man
I don't consider what I'm doing flaming. But notice how when someone makes a post with this title, the shills jump on it. Therefore, as a favor to the OP, I thought it best to expose these frauds for who they are before he gets stuck paying for this garbage.
P.S. Actually I haven't really exposed anyone. But if you have anything positive to say about this mmorpg in the year 2006, then you GOTTA being paid to do so. Now if we were in 1994, this game be would just ok
I didnt either but they will take the smallest thing, just like the DNL boards and accuse you of it,. I have had it happen to me. Jon helped me with it and everything is fine. I suggest if they keep up what they are doing, let Jon know.Drop him a line. He really is a decent fellow and understands the forums.
And yes indeed you will be flamed and tarred if you so much as leak a fraction of what may be the truth. There is an old saying about those "who protest too much"..... egad wish i could remember the exact wording but it was also brought up in that catch the liar tv game show. They try to figure out if what you are saying is the truth or a lie and they give little hints to try and see if you can spot the lie or the truth. Its extremely interesting. Me thinketh he protests too much.
Which really, if you look back at one example is the adamant claim that the SOG fiasco was not a beta of DNL.They protested against that until it came outta our ears! Some of the forsaken fanbois have still not grasped the truth of that matter even after the devs themselves admitted more than once that SOG was indeed the beta for DNL. The more they protest otherwise, the louder and more biligerent they get about the statements made in truth, even when backed up with evidence, the closer and closer you get to the real truth until finally its in their face, for all the world to see and they turn around, without batting an eye mind you, they turn around and say 'we never said otherwise". Sigh....its a vicous circle with these people - Farceland/NpFleece/AllChemicals Dreams/Devs-who-are-mods-who-are-fanbois/ -- a vicious circle of webs they have caught themselves up in and continue to do so on a constant basis. People are more likely now to believe even more outrageous things than the poor hateboi could ever think of than to believe one simple honest statement from Farlan and Company.
You know what guys... I see there is no point in trying to put some sense into those close minds, so from here on I will only comment on people that act maturily and really want to discuss the state of DnL and not those who are reacting blindled by their anger, their presumptions and all those negative influences.
Every poster here that cannot say anything without calling names, spouting gossip will be completely ignored by me. Just too bad there isn't a filter forum to filter out people on one's blacklist.
Have a nice day.
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