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The FREE TRIAL IS RETARDED
logangregor
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The free trial is completely gimp and lame....you know its true.
What I really want to know is how they expect me to judge EQ2 fairly by seeing the worst part of the game. Everybody tells me the game doesnt even really start until you get off the island. But in the free trial thats all I can do....how does that make sense?
If you wanted to show off your game would you show the prospective buyer the worst or the best part of the game?
Its like being expected to buy this sports car when all you saw was the small interior. You didnt listen to the fancy stereo or stomp on the gas and see how fast the car took off...you didnt even get to see how the car handled... Are you going to buy the car based of "small interior"? Helllllll no.
Same with EQ2 trial of the lame island...worst part of the game but thats there showcase...how idiotic.
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If you just think it is lame just because it is an island with not all of the features in the game, then why is that wrong? In a trial you are allowed to test things out for free, not experience the full game. I think it is good that you are not allowed to leave the island. The trial allows you to see how combat works, HO's, the classes, quests, linked mobs, etc. These are basic things that might tell you if you like how th game feels or not.
You are not meant to go into the city, or level higher, or be able to PvP. These things are for paying subscribers. If SoE wanted more players and they felt that letting people experience PvP and higher level content would help them achieve that, then they would do so. But obviously they did not.
Originally posted by 9216544
Why is it lame? Please support your arguement, otherwise it is pointless. If you just think it is lame just because it is an island with not all of the features in the game, then why is that wrong? In a trial you are allowed to test things out for free, not experience the full game. I think it is good that you are not allowed to leave the island. The trial allows you to see how combat works, HO's, the classes, quests, linked mobs, etc. These are basic things that might tell you if you like how th game feels or not. You are not meant to go into the city, or level higher, or be able to PvP. These things are for paying subscribers. If SoE wanted more players and they felt that letting people experience PvP and higher level content would help them achieve that, then they would do so. But obviously they did not.
I did support my argument MR number 9216544. You picked up on it perfectly. Yes its lame because its a island with none of the features of the game.
Hmm why is it wrong...? Well its not wrong, it is however bad business. You ever heard the phrase "put your best foot forward"? Tell me, you honestly beleive that SOE is showing the best part of the game to potential buying customers?
How do I know how it feels to play the game when the gimp island adventure is the only part of the game I can see? You know I played shadowbane when it first came out. It was alot of fun while it was populated but in that game there was also a little island where you could get some easy lvls before heading out to the full game. IF they restricted demos to just that small part of the island, there is no way I would of played that game either.
And dont tell me that being able to pvp is meant for paying customers. Thats pure crap. Ive played a million MMO's and the ones that gave free trials were just that. FREE TRIALS OF THE GAME...not some half assed demo.
My biggest surprise is the fact that someone actually argued this point with me. I didnt say the game was bad...I said the free trial was crap...and it is.
I have an idea, for kicks maybe you can argue about the effects of gravity and the color of the sky.
I could say more
But I am Le Tired
If the Trial of the Isle was so bad for you that is makes you vent like you've been done wrong, then it sounds like EQ2 is not for you in the first place.
How fortunate for us.
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Well that's a good way to inspire people who at least showed some initiative to try the game. Most won't even try it.
And yes the Island trial is a joke, it's not a sound business model to show potential players the lamest aspects as it does not reflect the true game, not to say the true game is much better.
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It seems the problem is the wording. People may have a better understanding of what to expect if it was called a demo instead of a trial.
"Demo" might indicate something much smaller in scope, limited functionality, so it is expected. "Trial" sounds like a fully functional game and a large sweeping world with all functions and abilities. I can understand why people would be discouraged.
The use of the word "Trial" always seemed to be used to denote a challenge, a test, a competition. Like "trial by fire".
So if the demo is taken as a demo, then it just might be viewed as such. If the demo seemed like it might be a good game, then SOE can welcome another subscriber and the player wins. If that person decides they don't like EQ2, they walk away without having to buy the game upfront, and still win.
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I dont see why you thought it was so bad. I leveled up 3 chars to lvl 8 and thought that was fun. Now waiting for the full game to arrive by mail
, I liked it.
How fortunate for you? Wow nice attitude. More like how fortunate for me I didnt get the oppurtunity to play with such an ass of a human being. From the time I played the free trial I ran into 3 whole people who were friendly. The other 50 wouldnt even respond to tells. That doesnt say MATURE to me...that sounds elitest.
I think its funny how much attitude I got from saying the demo was bad. IT IS. Its not like I knocked your beloved game. FYI-EQ2 isnt infallible. If you agree with me you wont be struck dead where you stand.
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So exactly how far into the game should the dev's let you go? If they let you progress past the island but say only to level 15, would you still think its lame? Should they let you get a toon to max level in order for you to "get to the best part of the game" before you purchase the game?
The trial is meant to give you a taste of what the game will be like. Its the same with amazon.com putting clips of music from CD's. The sample is just that, a sample. If they let you listen to every song all the way through, then what the hell is the point of ever buying the CD?
Also you do realize that the best part is meant to be saved for last? This is usually true for any game. If the best part of the game was the island trial, then why would anybody in their right mind pay to play the game, knowing that everything after will be boring or not nearly as fun as the island? Promises of better things to come is usually what keeps people playing.
Yes, the island is not the best part of the game but it gives you a feel for what the game is like.
In other words, it sucks.
And the point of a free trial is to interest people who WON'T pay 30 bucks to try the game.
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I made a reply in this forum on the "Final" post but will add a comment here to say that coming from several other MMO's (last main one being WoW.... Errr MC 3x a week? What else is there to do? Nothing? Cancel) I must admit i found the trial to be excellent!
Sure you feel like a total nublet... but if you bother to do the quests, read all the things which are present in the game like heroic opportunities and get a feel of what crafting etc etc can all do for you, i cant see how you think the trial is bad?! I think its th ebest intro to any game to date I've played. Really enjoyed it. And subscribed to the game as a result.
Good stuff
Will solo for a bit, then try and find a nice guild to play with, tho after reading everything, and coming from Shattered Hand on WoW, i think i'll re-roll my char again on the Euro PvP server... shame i cant transfer for free, easier than doing it all again, only coz i wanna continue with the quests tonight instead of doing beginner stuff all again 
Someone asked how far the devs should let you go.....as far as you CAN go in 6 days. Thats how it is in daoc-- except 14 days. There is no reason to not let someone go further. Its not hurting sony to let someone experience something other than "THE ISLAND".
And although I havent seen the rest of the game past the island, how can someone say that the island is just like the rest of the game? The rest of the game Im told is very open, go where you want, when you want. The island is a bunch of hedged in physical corridors. See what I mean?
Well gl to all you eq'ers. Im playing daoc for now, but its possible I might get bored and pay money to see what the rest of the eq2 world is like.
Do you expect to go on a 60 man raid or something?
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Two words. Free. Doesn't matter what the second word is, so long as it doesn't maim, cripple, or kill you.
It's free.
My mind boggles at the overgrown sense of entitlement someone has to have to be bitching about a FREE trial. I mean, seriously, if the fact that a FREE trial that doesn't let you, I dunno, solo the entire game??? unsettles you so that you felt an overwhelming need to come post about it...
Well, the rest is best left unsaid, but it does involve a nuclear reactor, if'n ya catch my drift.
Just because its free doesnt mean the TRIAL is great.
I have a hard time beleiving that the trial shows the best aspects of the game you play.
Is that such an offensive thought?
Can you at least agree with me that the island might not show the best of what EQ2 has to offer?
Think of it this way, it's Sony, be glad the trial didn't install some rootkit on your pc.
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You learn about the game mechanics. Movement, combat, loot, equipment, the lot. You start to learn about questing, factions, levelling up. You can, if you're minded, do a bit of crafting and there's some little sidequests and nice features (talking statue, cool!) that also get you wondering what else is possible.
Sure, you can't go play with the big kids in Qeynos and Freeport, but if you're mad keen to get there, don't do the Trial and just go sign up, roll a toon and get on the boat.
Beyond breaking a player in, it's also a good place to make mistakes in character creation (what, that froglock wizard wasn't as cool as you thought, not much lost, try a new toon) and you can, once you've got one toon off the Isle, twink your newb toons a bit.
The Isle is *just* a part of the game that you can get free access to in order to see if things look okay. If you didn't like it, smile and walk away knowing you just saved yourself a subscription.
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So its been a whlie since I did my free trial, but since I have they have taken out classes, combat, some crafting, skills, and everything else that EQ2 offers?
You ever heard the phrase "leave them wanting more"? Sounds like it worked with you. You wanted more than the island.
So when you have a few minutes, what are the names of the million MMO's that you have played? That is quite a number and I am sure to find a few good ones to play myself.
You can't make broad general aguments and then get mad when others do the same.
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