You have to pay income tax. You dont need to pay Social Security (big big difference). If you opt out of social security deductions then you forfeit any government assistance (disability, SSI, etc)
People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
You also can only opt out of Social Security if your a goverment, state or religous member. The standard citizen can and will be prosecuted for evasion of social security. It is not a written law, it is a orgizational mandate. Meaning basically that if you dont pay the orgizations which run the programs, they will prosecute and the goverment allows them to with or without laws to back them up. This kind of unspoken law is very common.
This movie is coming out I think July 28th and it's going to be focused on the income tax fraud (and he gets insiders talking) and a few other things. http://www.freedomtofascism.com/. you can watch the previews and and interview if you scroll down with the producer.
______________________________ "When Saddam flew that plane into those buildings, I knew it was time to kick some Iranian ass!" -cheer leading, flag waving American
______________________________ "When Saddam flew that plane into those buildings, I knew it was time to kick some Iranian ass!" -cheer leading, flag waving American
However, never underestimate the power of the government. And each branch will cover every other branches ass when it comes to the matter of their own income.
People have gone to prison over standing up to this. It's sad, but true.
There are people that say that the government can't get away with just doing or saying anything. And they are so willing to give away freedom after freedom and more control to the government. But this whole tax thing is just one example of how the government can get away with doing whatever they want, and do.
Originally posted by britoca u'd drive ur country bankrupt with no income taxes.
Not true. Here is a really brief history of the banking system (the FED) and the IRS which go together like Peanut Butter & Jelly if you learn the history. http://www.wtv-zone.com/Mary/FEDERALRESERVE.HTML
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Originally posted by AlexAmore Originally posted by britoca u'd drive ur country bankrupt with no income taxes.
Not true. Here is a really brief history of the banking system (the FED) and the IRS which go together like Peanut Butter & Jelly if you learn the history. http://www.wtv-zone.com/Mary/FEDERALRESERVE.HTML
sorry, busy at work today, no time to read essays, just short answers. will try to read it after work
where would the government get all the money it now obtains through income taxes?
Originally posted by britoca Originally posted by AlexAmore Originally posted by britoca u'd drive ur country bankrupt with no income taxes.
Not true. Here is a really brief history of the banking system (the FED) and the IRS which go together like Peanut Butter & Jelly if you learn the history. http://www.wtv-zone.com/Mary/FEDERALRESERVE.HTML
sorry, busy at work today, no time to read essays, just short answers. will try to read it after work
where would the government get all the money it now obtains through income taxes?
hey I browsed that page and I did learn that the Federal Reserve is a private company of bankers. That right there seems like an oxymoron, the "private public service". Nothing "federal" should be private, lol, it should be public, ya know, of the the people by the people, for the people.
Interesting stuff, I'd have to read a lot mroe about it though.
Correct spelling would be either Führer or Fuehrer.
lol, sorry, couldn't resist. BTW, just to throw this in there, the word Führer doesn't really mean anything bad. It just means "leader" and is therefore still a fairly common word. However, it now sadly comes with a negative connotation.
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Originally posted by daeandor Um, President Bush had nothing to do with the forming of the Federal Reserve, much less how taxes came about in this country...
Um, He has the power to get rid of the Fed. If He doesn't get rid of it then he is just as bad the criminals who run it and that goes for all the presidents who never tried and both parties Republican and Democrat of the government.
During a 1998 Bush rally and speech at DuPont Photomask Facility, Alex asks the following question.
"Sir, shouldn't we abolish the Federal Reserve and the CFR? That's the real reality that none of you will talk about and most of you are members. That's what's destroying this country governor. Don't you stand for America sir? What about the Federal Reserve and the CFR?"
Alex is then grabbed by Texas police, taken outside and handcuffed. The cameraman is threatened as he films the entire incident. Afterwards, Alex was kidnapped and driven around for half an hour before being thrown out on the side of the road. All for the crime of asking a question!
______________________________ "When Saddam flew that plane into those buildings, I knew it was time to kick some Iranian ass!" -cheer leading, flag waving American
Originally posted by Nihilanth Originally posted by Terridol
HAIL TO THE FUIER!!
Correct spelling would be either Führer or Fuehrer.
lol, sorry, couldn't resist. BTW, just to throw this in there, the word Führer doesn't really mean anything bad. It just means "leader" and is therefore still a fairly common word. However, it now sadly comes with a negative connotation.
WAY to Much Info Bro
let me rephase it then: ALL HAIL THEM EMPEROR
and on anther note lets rename this country THE IMPERIAL REPUBLIC STATES of AMERICA
Originally posted by Terridol Like this for example:
Originally posted by Nihilanth Originally posted by Terridol
HAIL TO THE FUIER!!
Correct spelling would be either Führer or Fuehrer.
lol, sorry, couldn't resist. BTW, just to throw this in there, the word Führer doesn't really mean anything bad. It just means "leader" and is therefore still a fairly common word. However, it now sadly comes with a negative connotation.
WAY to Much Info Bro
let me rephase it then: ALL HAIL THEM EMPEROR
and on anther note lets rename this country THE IMPERIAL REPUBLIC STATES of AMERICA
...wait wait, I thought you guys were all liberals. You know getting rid of income tax is a conservative idea, right (not Republican, but conservative)?
Originally posted by Sawtooth ...wait wait, I thought you guys were all liberals. You know getting rid of income tax is a conservative idea, right (not Republican, but conservative)?
:P
eh, well liberals can have some conservative ideals...
haha.. watch now that you said that people start disagreeing with getting rid of it
Originally posted by str1ke doesn't oregon not have an income tax?wait... no, that's state tax... so income tax is a completely national thing?
Thats correct -- IRS will threaten to leavy all your assets and any asset at your resident even if all you owe was 85.00 :P (past experiance)
but there are soo damn many taxes, you would think the government would have a + balance -- heck my grandfather fought in world war II and the entire campaing was ran with only a fraction of the taxes they tax you now days for...
heh.. soon they will tax you for breathing... oh crap they already do - the clean air pact and taxes to support it... ugh.. cant win!!!
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yeah........
tell that to this guy Man Jailed for not paying income tax
You have to pay income tax. You dont need to pay Social Security (big big difference). If you opt out of social security deductions then you forfeit any government assistance (disability, SSI, etc)
People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
______________________________
"When Saddam flew that plane into those buildings, I knew it was time to kick some Iranian ass!"
-cheer leading, flag waving American
I think someone has seen this movie trailer:
http://www.apple.com/trailers/independent/americafreedomtofacism/trailer/
Edit:
Blah, Alex beat me.
This guy beat the IRS
http://neworleans.indymedia.org/news/2006/06/7822.php
______________________________
"When Saddam flew that plane into those buildings, I knew it was time to kick some Iranian ass!"
-cheer leading, flag waving American
However, never underestimate the power of the government. And each branch will cover every other branches ass when it comes to the matter of their own income.
People have gone to prison over standing up to this. It's sad, but true.
There are people that say that the government can't get away with just doing or saying anything. And they are so willing to give away freedom after freedom and more control to the government. But this whole tax thing is just one example of how the government can get away with doing whatever they want, and do.
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"When Saddam flew that plane into those buildings, I knew it was time to kick some Iranian ass!"
-cheer leading, flag waving American
sorry, busy at work today, no time to read essays, just short answers. will try to read it after work
where would the government get all the money it now obtains through income taxes?
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sorry, busy at work today, no time to read essays, just short answers. will try to read it after work
where would the government get all the money it now obtains through income taxes?
hey I browsed that page and I did learn that the Federal Reserve is a private company of bankers. That right there seems like an oxymoron, the "private public service". Nothing "federal" should be private, lol, it should be public, ya know, of the the people by the people, for the people.
Interesting stuff, I'd have to read a lot mroe about it though.
-virtual tourist
want your game back?
HAIL TO THE FUIER!!
Correct spelling would be either Führer or Fuehrer.
lol, sorry, couldn't resist. BTW, just to throw this in there, the word Führer doesn't really mean anything bad. It just means "leader" and is therefore still a fairly common word. However, it now sadly comes with a negative connotation.
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Um, He has the power to get rid of the Fed. If He doesn't get rid of it then he is just as bad the criminals who run it and that goes for all the presidents who never tried and both parties Republican and Democrat of the government.
During a 1998 Bush rally and speech at DuPont Photomask Facility, Alex asks the following question.
"Sir, shouldn't we abolish the Federal Reserve and the CFR? That's the real reality that none of you will talk about and most of you are members. That's what's destroying this country governor. Don't you stand for America sir? What about the Federal Reserve and the CFR?"
Alex is then grabbed by Texas police, taken outside and handcuffed. The cameraman is threatened as he films the entire incident. Afterwards, Alex was kidnapped and driven around for half an hour before being thrown out on the side of the road. All for the crime of asking a question!
http://prisonplanet.com/video/alex_arrested.WMV <----video of it.
______________________________
"When Saddam flew that plane into those buildings, I knew it was time to kick some Iranian ass!"
-cheer leading, flag waving American
Correct spelling would be either Führer or Fuehrer.
lol, sorry, couldn't resist. BTW, just to throw this in there, the word Führer doesn't really mean anything bad. It just means "leader" and is therefore still a fairly common word. However, it now sadly comes with a negative connotation.
WAY to Much Info Bro
let me rephase it then: ALL HAIL THEM EMPEROR
and on anther note lets rename this country THE IMPERIAL REPUBLIC STATES of AMERICA
Correct spelling would be either Führer or Fuehrer.
lol, sorry, couldn't resist. BTW, just to throw this in there, the word Führer doesn't really mean anything bad. It just means "leader" and is therefore still a fairly common word. However, it now sadly comes with a negative connotation.
WAY to Much Info Bro
let me rephase it then: ALL HAIL THEM EMPEROR
and on anther note lets rename this country THE IMPERIAL REPUBLIC STATES of AMERICA
u two amuse me lol.
HEIL!
-virtual tourist
want your game back?
:P
haha.. watch now that you said that people start disagreeing with getting rid of it
IF you really want to know:
i'm an aninostic don;t give a $hit game desinger who could give a f*ing flick.
....like school, and roads, and access to police protection, and mail, and libraries, and...
You're going to die, and you're going to pay taxes. Both are unpleasant, but them's the breaks.
"Fear not death; for the sooner we die, the longer shall we be immortal."
wait... no, that's state tax...
so income tax is a completely national thing?
Thats correct -- IRS will threaten to leavy all your assets and any asset at your resident even if all you owe was 85.00 :P (past experiance)
but there are soo damn many taxes, you would think the government would have a + balance -- heck my grandfather fought in world war II and the entire campaing was ran with only a fraction of the taxes they tax you now days for...
heh.. soon they will tax you for breathing... oh crap they already do - the clean air pact and taxes to support it... ugh.. cant win!!!
Saidee
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