Oh good! Im glad to hear that AoC is looking to beat.. or even match WAR!
I very very rarley post on mmorpg.com, this is one of the few threads that I have wanted to post on!
I too am keen to see WAR beaten!.. this is why..
Everyone, no matter who you are in this industry is wondering "what is the next mmo to come close to wow"
I would very much like to see AoC over WAR take this honor.. why?..
Well, I dont like.. rather, I detest the style of graphics in WoW! (I know its a good game) because I hate the way it turns my favorite past time (AD&D style fantasy) into a cartoon.. a joke.. I feel blizzard have just ripped off an idea and made into a cartoon to appeal to all the kids out there. They do a very good job of this. I would love to be involved in a game which is as succesfull as WoW so long as it didnt have cartoony graphics!
WAR Looks like it will have exactly the same style of graphics! and so this is why I root for AoC! this is why I care!
AoC is a Mature, adult kind of fantasy game.. which is very much more my style!.. being an adult (duh) and
I would rather like to assume that people out there in the world do actually prefer an adult theme and would chose AoC over WAR!
I know the hype meter isnt a very good indication at all, but the fact that its improving over WAR is a positive sign.
Well, I dont like.. rather, I detest the style of graphics in WoW! (I know its a good game) because I hate the way it turns my favorite past time (AD&D style fantasy) into a cartoon.. a joke.. I feel blizzard have just ripped off an idea and made into a cartoon to appeal to all the kids out there. They do a very good job of this. I would love to be involved in a game which is as succesfull as WoW so long as it didnt have cartoony graphics! WAR Looks like it will have exactly the same style of graphics!
just to clarify for you. WAR will have the cartoon style graphics. The reason is because of the tabletop game. Have you even seen the tabletop paint and play models. The graphics and based around the models art style which has a cartoonish look. The tabletop game has been around for over 20 years. WoW saw the art style and used it for their game as they took many things from other sources.
just thought id clear that up for you. For this reason, that they are staying true to the warhammer tabletop game and its creator 'Games Workshop', the graphics are justified.
Both are looking to be solid games. However, Warhammer does has over 300,000 people signed up for beta (and growing) and it will have the advantage of grabbing up the people who try AoC and don't like it.
I am eager for both games...but would easily pass on AoC as soon as WAR was available...it's possile many, many others will do the same. Don't believe the crap about WAR copying WoW...I know it's been said to death but it's the other way around. While Blizzard has done a great job with there games, the races and sometimes units of both Warcraft and Starcraft are heavily based on Games Workshop IP. Sure there are differences...but it obvious where the Blizzard designers went to get their ideas on game aesthetics.
Also, Warhammer may have a easier time of garnering players as WAR's system requirements will be lower.
Just have to wait and see. Many will be picking up AoC when it arrives...the same can be said for WAR.
I think WAR has the edge simply because it's devs have proven they can deliver a finished product (see DAoC). AoC is up in the air as far as i'm concerned because I haven't seen one shred of evidence that this game is even close to being finished, not to mention it's combat system is a huge huge question mark.. no one really knows if it will be fun or have long-lasting appeal. AoC looks good on paper, but so did Vanguard.
Clearly WAR was THE most hyped mmorpg around, until EA bought Mythic.
I believe War even scored as high as 8?
Many people changed their vote after that.
But it never dropped that hard, and even now with EA as the owner, WAR is still on top of the hype.
So this means that this game is truly the biggest hype of all hypes !
I do however have some questions about the WoW cloning that they ARE doing, mainly about making instanced PvP the most important aspect. That is the only reason why I would and probably will lower my own WAR hype.
But honestly, AoC does not look that much better to me, to me it still deserves nr 2 on the hype meter.
Greetings, Mentakh
If you are interested in subscription or PCU numbers for MMORPG's, check out my site : http://mmodata.blogspot.be/ Favorite MMORPG's : DAoC pre ToA-NF, SWG Pre CU-NGE, EVE Online
Clearly WAR was THE most hyped mmorpg around, until EA bought Mythic. I believe War even scored as high as 8? Many people changed their vote after that. But it never dropped that hard, and even now with EA as the owner, WAR is still on top of the hype. So this means that this game is truly the biggest hype of all hypes ! I do however have some questions about the WoW cloning that they ARE doing, mainly about making instanced PvP the most important aspect. That is the only reason why I would and probably will lower my own WAR hype. But honestly, AoC does not look that much better to me, to me it still deserves nr 2 on the hype meter.
Greetings,
Mentakh
They may have made it instanced PvP to lower lag in larger battles.
"Kill one man, and you are a murderer. Kill millions of men, and you are a conqueror. Kill them all, and you are a god." -- Jean Rostand
Well, I dont like.. rather, I detest the style of graphics in WoW! (I know its a good game) because I hate the way it turns my favorite past time (AD&D style fantasy) into a cartoon.. a joke.. I feel blizzard have just ripped off an idea and made into a cartoon to appeal to all the kids out there. They do a very good job of this. I would love to be involved in a game which is as succesfull as WoW so long as it didnt have cartoony graphics! WAR Looks like it will have exactly the same style of graphics!
"just to clarify for you. WAR will have the cartoon style graphics. The reason is because of the tabletop game. Have you even seen the tabletop paint and play models. The graphics and based around the models art style which has a cartoonish look. The tabletop game has been around for over 20 years. WoW saw the art style and used it for their game as they took many things from other sources.
just thought id clear that up for you. For this reason, that they are staying true to the warhammer tabletop game and its creator 'Games Workshop', the graphics are justified."
Yes, I do know Gameswork shop games, I had many friends when I was a kid who played that.. It was ok to watch, and the models were nice actually.. I dont recal them being cartoony as much as WoW though (I remember offering to buy a dragon that someone had painted really well)
And yes, WAR are well within their rights to chose their style, I dont mark them down like I do WoW since their product IS their own...
However, its still cartoonish, and I still dont like it
The only Warhammer product I quite liked was Space-Crusade on the amiga
I think WAR has the edge simply because it's devs have proven they can deliver a finished product (see DAoC). AoC is up in the air as far as i'm concerned because I haven't seen one shred of evidence that this game is even close to being finished, not to mention it's combat system is a huge huge question mark.. no one really knows if it will be fun or have long-lasting appeal. AoC looks good on paper, but so did Vanguard.
If you havnt seen the evidence about AoC being close to finished then you havnt really looked, have you?
There is most definatly a lot MORE information out there about AoC than any other MMO I've beta tested.. but its spread out between many different gameing sites...
There is considerably more evidence than Vanguard! - read any Vanguard forums 3 months before its released and everyone was SCREAMING that its nowhere near completed!...
I dont see any such rumor from AoC.
And even though it wasnt completed, I still bought, and played vanguard for about 3 months.. and loved it!.. still do, just waiting for SOE to polish it up.
I will play AoC for about 3 months as well, then I will decide between it and Vanguard (though I secretly suspect vanguard will be better)
I feel sorry for the kids who are all wrapped up in the hype meter and the position of their game of choice.
Seems like a giant waste of energy to me.
Oh well.. whatever spins your plates I guess.
We shall not cease from exploration and the end of all our exploring will be to arrive where we started... and know the place for the first time. -T.S. Eliot
greenskins are not such cartoony as u might think just sit and wait
no need.. I've already seen video's of what WAR will look like.
Regardless of what Gamesworkshop models look like, the game looks and feels like WoW (graphically).. it even looks like they have used the same engine!
I dont just dismiss any game though, I have applied for the beta (as I do all beta's) and will give it every chance to impress me..
But as much as it might impress me, I like violence, I like blood and guts.. I like sexy semi naked women and demons.. Im an adult now and I prefer adult entertainment
Just as I grew out of childrens toys I grew out cartoony looking games... Im actually looking forward to a game which has a more mature theme!
I just hope it means that the hoards (no pun intended) of kids who play the likes for WoW and CoH will actually respect the age rating on AoC and leave it alone!
WAR's 'hype' rating has been dropping significanty by the day and is now dead even with AoC. in the next few days AoC is sure to take over, which IMHO is a great thing. For all of us who have looked at AoC in some depth have seen just what a great MMOG it is destined to be. Just how different from all the other WoW-clones with kiddy graphics and a bug up it's arse
We need to show the MMORPG community that AoC isn't just 'oiled up arnold in a bad fantasy movie' as many who haven't looked at the game seem to think. With AoC in the #1 spot we can hopefully get more folks onto the fantastic official forums, and get this forum jumpin as well.
AoC rocks, now lets show all those who dont know it yet, just how much it does!
I used to think the word NERD was a bad word that people just tossed around like calling someone a troll or thinking that big foot is real. but you sir have proven me wrong today.
greenskins are not such cartoony as u might think just sit and wait
no need.. I've already seen video's of what WAR will look like.
Regardless of what Gamesworkshop models look like, the game looks and feels like WoW (graphically).. it even looks like they have used the same engine!
I dont just dismiss any game though, I have applied for the beta (as I do all beta's) and will give it every chance to impress me..
But as much as it might impress me, I like violence, I like blood and guts.. I like sexy semi naked women and demons.. Im an adult now and I prefer adult entertainment
Just as I grew out of childrens toys I grew out cartoony looking games... Im actually looking forward to a game which has a more mature theme!
I just hope it means that the hoards (no pun intended) of kids who play the likes for WoW and CoH will actually respect the age rating on AoC and leave it alone!
AoC is for the big boys! no kids alowed
I think its important t oint out that the graphics in WAR has yet to ahve proper lighting dome to it what you see is a palceholder till the proper stuff in coded in.
"Kill one man, and you are a murderer. Kill millions of men, and you are a conqueror. Kill them all, and you are a god." -- Jean Rostand
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I’ve gotta laugh, as any MMORPG player should -when someone calls him or her a “fanboy”.
Spoils of War - The quickest way of ending a war is to lose it.
Oh good! Im glad to hear that AoC is looking to beat.. or even match WAR!
I very very rarley post on mmorpg.com, this is one of the few threads that I have wanted to post on!
I too am keen to see WAR beaten!.. this is why..
Everyone, no matter who you are in this industry is wondering "what is the next mmo to come close to wow"
I would very much like to see AoC over WAR take this honor.. why?..
Well, I dont like.. rather, I detest the style of graphics in WoW! (I know its a good game) because I hate the way it turns my favorite past time (AD&D style fantasy) into a cartoon.. a joke.. I feel blizzard have just ripped off an idea and made into a cartoon to appeal to all the kids out there. They do a very good job of this. I would love to be involved in a game which is as succesfull as WoW so long as it didnt have cartoony graphics!
WAR Looks like it will have exactly the same style of graphics! and so this is why I root for AoC! this is why I care!
AoC is a Mature, adult kind of fantasy game.. which is very much more my style!.. being an adult (duh) and
I would rather like to assume that people out there in the world do actually prefer an adult theme and would chose AoC over WAR!
I know the hype meter isnt a very good indication at all, but the fact that its improving over WAR is a positive sign.
just thought id clear that up for you. For this reason, that they are staying true to the warhammer tabletop game and its creator 'Games Workshop', the graphics are justified.
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WAR looks AWESOME!
Give Blood....Play Rugby!
Don't believe the hype...meter!
Both are looking to be solid games. However, Warhammer does has over 300,000 people signed up for beta (and growing) and it will have the advantage of grabbing up the people who try AoC and don't like it.
I am eager for both games...but would easily pass on AoC as soon as WAR was available...it's possile many, many others will do the same. Don't believe the crap about WAR copying WoW...I know it's been said to death but it's the other way around. While Blizzard has done a great job with there games, the races and sometimes units of both Warcraft and Starcraft are heavily based on Games Workshop IP. Sure there are differences...but it obvious where the Blizzard designers went to get their ideas on game aesthetics.
Also, Warhammer may have a easier time of garnering players as WAR's system requirements will be lower.
Just have to wait and see. Many will be picking up AoC when it arrives...the same can be said for WAR.
I think WAR has the edge simply because it's devs have proven they can deliver a finished product (see DAoC). AoC is up in the air as far as i'm concerned because I haven't seen one shred of evidence that this game is even close to being finished, not to mention it's combat system is a huge huge question mark.. no one really knows if it will be fun or have long-lasting appeal. AoC looks good on paper, but so did Vanguard.
Clearly WAR was THE most hyped mmorpg around, until EA bought Mythic.
I believe War even scored as high as 8?
Many people changed their vote after that.
But it never dropped that hard, and even now with EA as the owner, WAR is still on top of the hype.
So this means that this game is truly the biggest hype of all hypes !
I do however have some questions about the WoW cloning that they ARE doing, mainly about making instanced PvP the most important aspect. That is the only reason why I would and probably will lower my own WAR hype.
But honestly, AoC does not look that much better to me, to me it still deserves nr 2 on the hype meter.
Greetings,
Mentakh
If you are interested in subscription or PCU numbers for MMORPG's, check out my site :
http://mmodata.blogspot.be/
Favorite MMORPG's : DAoC pre ToA-NF, SWG Pre CU-NGE, EVE Online
They may have made it instanced PvP to lower lag in larger battles.
"Kill one man, and you are a murderer. Kill millions of men, and you are a conqueror. Kill them all, and you are a god."
-- Jean Rostand
just thought id clear that up for you. For this reason, that they are staying true to the warhammer tabletop game and its creator 'Games Workshop', the graphics are justified."
Yes, I do know Gameswork shop games, I had many friends when I was a kid who played that.. It was ok to watch, and the models were nice actually.. I dont recal them being cartoony as much as WoW though (I remember offering to buy a dragon that someone had painted really well)
And yes, WAR are well within their rights to chose their style, I dont mark them down like I do WoW since their product IS their own...
However, its still cartoonish, and I still dont like it
The only Warhammer product I quite liked was Space-Crusade on the amiga
If you havnt seen the evidence about AoC being close to finished then you havnt really looked, have you?
There is most definatly a lot MORE information out there about AoC than any other MMO I've beta tested.. but its spread out between many different gameing sites...
There is considerably more evidence than Vanguard! - read any Vanguard forums 3 months before its released and everyone was SCREAMING that its nowhere near completed!...
I dont see any such rumor from AoC.
And even though it wasnt completed, I still bought, and played vanguard for about 3 months.. and loved it!.. still do, just waiting for SOE to polish it up.
I will play AoC for about 3 months as well, then I will decide between it and Vanguard (though I secretly suspect vanguard will be better)
in the end does it really matter that much
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Currently playing:wow/war
Retired:,runescape,swg,
everquest2,lotro
I feel sorry for the kids who are all wrapped up in the hype meter and the position of their game of choice.
Seems like a giant waste of energy to me.
Oh well.. whatever spins your plates I guess.
We shall not cease from exploration and the end of all our exploring will be to arrive where we started... and know the place for the first time.
-T.S. Eliot
greenskins are not such cartoony as u might think
just sit and wait
Regardless of what Gamesworkshop models look like, the game looks and feels like WoW (graphically).. it even looks like they have used the same engine!
I dont just dismiss any game though, I have applied for the beta (as I do all beta's) and will give it every chance to impress me..
But as much as it might impress me, I like violence, I like blood and guts.. I like sexy semi naked women and demons.. Im an adult now and I prefer adult entertainment
Just as I grew out of childrens toys I grew out cartoony looking games... Im actually looking forward to a game which has a more mature theme!
I just hope it means that the hoards (no pun intended) of kids who play the likes for WoW and CoH will actually respect the age rating on AoC and leave it alone!
AoC is for the big boys! no kids alowed
I used to think the word NERD was a bad word that people just tossed around like calling someone a troll or thinking that big foot is real. but you sir have proven me wrong today.
Regardless of what Gamesworkshop models look like, the game looks and feels like WoW (graphically).. it even looks like they have used the same engine!
I dont just dismiss any game though, I have applied for the beta (as I do all beta's) and will give it every chance to impress me..
But as much as it might impress me, I like violence, I like blood and guts.. I like sexy semi naked women and demons.. Im an adult now and I prefer adult entertainment
Just as I grew out of childrens toys I grew out cartoony looking games... Im actually looking forward to a game which has a more mature theme!
I just hope it means that the hoards (no pun intended) of kids who play the likes for WoW and CoH will actually respect the age rating on AoC and leave it alone!
AoC is for the big boys! no kids alowed
I think its important t oint out that the graphics in WAR has yet to ahve proper lighting dome to it what you see is a palceholder till the proper stuff in coded in.
"Kill one man, and you are a murderer. Kill millions of men, and you are a conqueror. Kill them all, and you are a god."
-- Jean Rostand