So I wanna bet? Man, If I could only do it. I'd bet my damn house, car, and everything that I own that despite what you say... you are "Adonys" of Mourning.
Tell me something Mr Draakan... If you guys are soooo f'n different and this is an all new team... WHY IN THE BLUE HELL WOULD YOU WANT TO CONTINUE THE EXACT SAME KIND OF FORUM NAZI-POLICE CRAP THAT THE OLD MOURNING SITE HAD??? Tell me that tuff guy!
I think that sentance says everything abou t you. Why are you shooting? Are you nervous because no one will hear you? And first of all you know nothing about nazi police and to tell such things tells me I talk to a small little boy and nothing more. When you have lived here in germany at this time under those circumstances, you wouldn´t say that.
When I went to your stupid f'n forum boards for this all-new game made by an all new team as you so say, and simply asked if anyone there was the same as before and stated that the admin from this website here said that you guys are exactly the same team as before... You didn't respond. Nope. You didn't handle it like mature professionals that you would expect of a game making company. Instead you did EXACTLY what the old Mourning devs and team would have done... YOU DELETED THE THREAD AND YOU BANNED NOT ONLY MY USER NAME BUT ALSO MY INTERNET IP FROM YOUR SITE!! Lmfao.
You delete my thread. You ban my internet web address from your gay ass site. So... Let's just suppose for one damn second that you are a completely new team....
1) Why would you EVER pay anything for a game with such a horrid reputation as Mourning had? Any amount of money would likely be too much and a losing up-hill battle.
What has the game to do woth that.. I think you have to differ between the publisher, the dev and the game. The game is a good idea and thats it.
2) Why even if you did buy the old game, and are a different team... Why would you treat people on your website from day one exactly as the old Mourning team did? That's just un-thinkable. You ban and delete ANY thread that simply asks understandable questions on your forums rather then handling them with mature, solid answers. What in the hell are you so scared of?
hmm I´m wasn´t an employee of the old comapny, nor I´m an employee of the new company. As no Mod on our forums ever was. Another reason you never followed the game otherwise you would have known
So, Adonys.. Errr so sorry - I mean ummmm... oh yeah.... "Draakan"... What have you got to say now? Isn't is sad that you don't have control over this websites threads and posts. I bet you just wish with all your might you could delete threads and posts at your will over here too don't you?
PATHETIC.
Adonys... Errr Draakan... You give me a pain I can't quite locate. ______________________________________________________________________
So I get your house ( o.k. I doubt you have one) and your car ( i doubt that you have one too) and everything else Greta shall I give ya my adress ?
I think that sentences abovetells us everything about you. Why are you shouting? Are you nervous because no one will hear you? And first of all you know nothing about nazi police and to tell such things shows me I talk to a small little boy and nothing more. When you have lived here in germany at this time under those circumstances, you wouldn´t say that.
Not I have deleted your post, but when someone thinks to delete your post, you see that there was a reason to do so, so why are you upset about. With that sentence above, here in germany you would get really a problem, you can bet on it
What has the game to do with the payment?.. I think you have to differ between the publisher, the dev and the game. The game is a good idea and thats it, and ye I am a prepaid customer as so many others too. And yes I believe in the idea of bloodline and permadeath, the skill matrix and so on. Thats all. And no I don´t want to play another DAOC/WOW clone why should I and I fight for the game, because I believe in those ideas. And yes I have lost the money and hours and hours of volunteer work. Thats life. But it has nothing to do with the game and game ideas behind it.
hmm I´m wasn´t an employee of the old comapny, nor I´m an employee of the new company. As no Mod on our forums ever was. Another reason you never followed the game otherwise you would have known I have never bought the game itself or the devs or anything else. I only have bought the licence to play the game as so many other too
As I said think what you want. And I delete posts very rarely and why should I delete this post. Only because you are angry about a company I´m not an employee of. The only thing what I hate ist, that so many children like you shout out rumors and have no clue what they are talking about. But that is the fate of the internet, because the children can hide behind their PCs, and have no proof, except their wild thoughts and their wild imaginations
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Originally posted by beethoven89 Hmmm... what can be considered half way decent...., well, on the Wikipedia page for Mourning (You can find it under great disasters in videogameing history, along with the Virtual Boy), turns out the game started out with 2 quests and on average, 10 people would be on a server, and on the rare occastion that there were maybe 50 people online, the server would crash. I would really not even trust the company or anything else they would do, they seem to be infamous for posting the ip address of anyone who spoke negatively of Mourning on their forums, mainly to encourage others to hack their computers.
You are right, thats why I said in that german language where you can find me
I can proof that I´m a original one.. because i post a url in my signature where I´m doing a nother volunteer work, and there you can see that I come from germany and I live there, because we posted a Cv of all members
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Well XDraakanx. I have not played mourning, nor have I followed it intensively. However I did check out the website and forums on the original and kept tabs on it from time to time. The mods on that forum were not the sort of professionalism I want represented in a game.
And if you are representative of the new game, then I still want nothing to do with it. Quite possibly some of the most unprofessional bit of flaming I have ever seen coming from a company that is trying to solicite money from people.
Don't think I will play your game, and until you sound a bit more mature, I doubt others will too. The other posters on this board can flame you, but if you want money, you can't flame us/them. I know it's not fair. But I expect the people I give money to, to be able to handle problems with cool heads.
You reacted. You knee-jerked. You lost my money.
Venge Sunsoar
Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it is bad.
If you talk about teh game sec. Mourning had great ideas, concept. I was realy looking forward to it. The graphics were decent good too. Nothing wrong about that. Only the problems around it made my frown and as time went by and things developed on...i early on smellt a big rat or two... The way customers were approached, treated and then xxxx.. to even no content inthe game itself and ripping off those who loved teh concept and fell into the trap..
My decision to play a game is based on beta and or open beta and customer service... no open beta ...
If throne of chaos is worth playing i would still consider it, but i need be in beta like many at mmorpg.com like to be. If your worst enemy is convinced(some maybe) then they know tehy have a good shot.. Secodn ithink they need to cpmpensate those who got a bad deal...
and i donot think draakan is on teh payroll of throne of chaos guys...
to Draakan
So do you have as a fan some more info on the game to share considering above points?
They way the community was threated earlier was wrong, no doubt. And I can´t say anything but sorry for that. The new publisher knows that too, and noone has lost his money, because everyone who has preordered the game will get a free lifetime account.
There will be a beta, I think in one or two month, and many of those who want a place in beta, will get a place.
Most of the concepts of ToC will be discussed and if you have any greta Ideas, the devs want to hear it.
They mentioned to kick the permadeatch, but most of the community said, they should keep so, so it will be kept.
Most of the animations will be reworked and the ai of the mobs, that was indeed terrible, was reworked too.
So if you have a great idea, of what you are thinkinig that is something or this type of MMo so don´t hastitate and post it
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Originally posted by xDraakanx The new publisher knows that too, and noone has lost his money, because everyone who has preordered the game will get a free lifetime account.
Huh? So people who preorder will get a free lifetime account?
Originally posted by Xzaro Originally posted by xDraakanx The new publisher knows that too, and noone has lost his money, because everyone who has preordered the game will get a free lifetime account.
Huh? So people who preorder will get a free lifetime account?
yes.. everyone who has preordered the game earlier will get a free lifetime account.
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Wow, just plain wow. Draakan I was never a vocal detractor of Mourning but you are just plain slimy. Not 10 posts earlier your in here flaming as a dev.... wait hold on still laughing...... and now you come with what I can only think of as false sincerity and ovetures of peace to the gaming world as a whole. Give this forum a break for awhile and don't post anything here that will give us time to forget your flames or at least relegate them to the corner of the brain that thinks about such important things as what color of brown is perfect for toast before you come back and post something kind and caring. I'm not buying it and no one else is either.
You'll get a small handfull of folks back to your game, thats it. Good luck Adonys you and Egomancer are going to be rich.
Originally posted by Xzaro Originally posted by xDraakanx The new publisher knows that too, and noone has lost his money, because everyone who has preordered the game will get a free lifetime account.Huh? So people who preorder will get a free lifetime account?
No people that got burned on the FIRST pre-order before the first release of the game get a free life-time account.
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
Originally posted by Dekron Loud Ant Software, the "new" owners of Thrones of Chaos, a.k.a. Mourning, is actually owned, and managed by the same team as before. Egomancer even heads the team once again. This is why it is not listed on mmorpg.com.
What about good ole Porno Dave? He always brought me a chuckle.
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
So, xDraakanx, why did you have to come on here with the name Adonys? That seems very dishonest of you- especially when claiming you were not xDraakanx to begin with. Or is that still your claim? I am getting confused…
Care to explain why the new developer is only 17-years-old with no game making experience outside tetris and bejeweled clones? Or why he is threating to sue people just like the old developer (http://www.krelslibrary.org/)? Or why the new publisher is secert?
I was never really a part of the Mourning community so I never experienced the horrors...
...and even though I've not been with the Thrones of Chaos community for long I can't complain about the management so far. Not many have signed up for the community yet, probably also because not many know about it yet, but so far the developers have taken a good interest in the community's voice. Though it might also be because I'm use to the community handling in Dark and Light that I feel like I'm being treated so nice.
As for the nationality discussion I've no reason to doubt either Draakan or Delany, both on private german connection on irc. I know a proxy can handle that matter but untill anything else proven I can't really see how you can claim that Draakan should be lieing
There's been two interviews at RPGVault about Mourning after it closed down
as for the speculations based on the registration of various domains I would assume that LoudAnt bought the previous domains related to Mourning...That's at least what I would do if I bought the code for a game that previously had a community!
...but let's see! I could be wrong, I could be right! Untill somebody shows me anything more then just their own hate towards the old developers or that the developers are still the same, then I choose to believe in ToC's success as it has some appealing features without aiming for the unrealistic
You do a good job at flaming and attacking on neutral forums. However your English, much like the old Adonys, is severely lacking. Also you continue to totally avoid valid questions that I and others bring up to you. If these questions are brought up on your forums, you simply DELETE and usually BAN the user from your forums.
Here is a couple of questions I have asked:
1) Why would you EVER pay anything for a game with such a horrid reputation as Mourning had? Any amount of money would likely be too much and a losing up-hill battle.
2) Why even if you did buy the old game, and are a different team... Why would you treat people on your website from day one exactly as the old Mourning team did? That's just un-thinkable. You ban and delete ANY thread that simply asks understandable questions on your forums rather then handling them with mature, solid answers.
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Also, people have asked why this new company is headed by a supposed 17 year old with no previous experience what-so-ever? Is this kid Adonys son perhaps? His nephew? Seriously, what gives here? I also think that this is a more then valid question from the community as a whole. Until you can stop flaming people on neutral forums and banning people on your own forums for getting asked such questions... I think that you will indeed find gaining any new interest a very difficult task indeed. And I can only assume that is why "you" are here. To hope to shed some light on your new game to new potential customers.
Some customers have every right to be suspicious and doubtful of anything new with the new name. This is the fourth morph of the same game. People before paid money for home-made 20 cent CDs with a crappy client on it that had more bugs then you could find under a fallen tree. People were treated like crap instead of customers on the games forums over and over and over.
And your forum bashing continues. You have BANNED my IP address from your forums. If you think I cannot get to your forums because of this, you are mistaken. Banning an IP address does nothing to stop anyone with any basic computer knowledge. And since I have been banned for making ONE post asking about the legitimac of this new game... I have watched your forums over the past couple of days. In this time, I have seen some 23 threads getting "deleted" off of your forums. One of the questions was simply "Hey is Egomancer still around?" That was all that was asked. That question was simply deleted. Probably the person was also banned from your forums as well.
If you think that such forum regulations are something new and trying to hide vaid questions and concerns is better covered up then answered, then this is indeed NOT something new on the games forums. It is exactly the same kind of behavior as all of us who knew of the Mourning forums chaos before witnessed.
Right now, I would say that the only "Thrones of Chaos" I see is the people who are in control of your forums. Those people indeed sit on "Thrones of Chaos" because the way I see it... they are doing nothing but causing even more chaos and negativity towards your game by their behavior then answering the valid questions and concerns with the maturity and professionalism that anyone who pays their hard-earned money for ANY game would expect.
If you are indeed not Adonys, then I sincerely apologize. But I myself witnessed many, many posts by this guy... and the similarities of his and your writing styles and the kind of things you say are very close. Coming onto a neutral forum and flaming one moment and then being overly nice and promising free lifetime accounts to anyone who paid for Mourning is sooo "Adonys". That seems like exactly something that he would do. I am still not convinced that you aren't the same person, but if you are different, so be it. You still must do a lot more yourself and on your own forums to prove anything substantial to those of us who know the unethical and wrong-doings of the Mourning team just last year. Coming on these forums and acting just as he used to certainly doesn't help your cause, unless ofcourse that cause is to get a lot of NEGATIVE attention.
Regardless of everything that I have stated, you will do what you will do. And with that, I offer whoever you are my "Good Luck". You will need all the luck you can get if you ever hope to gain more then a handful of potential new customers.
You said earlier in the thread that you don't intend on making another WoW or EQ2 clone. For your sake, I hope that what ever you produce as a final product is much closer to the WoW and EQ2s we are used to as customers and expect as far as STABILTY is concerned. Put out a high quality product and that will be worth so much more then ten million of your words and promises on every forum out there. Put out another 2005 Mourning disaster or anything similar and ten million words and promises from you will simply be laughed at, mocked, flamed, and dis-respected.
But until then, I would offer you my best advice and that would be to start treating your games forums with the professionalism and maturity gamers and potential customers expect rather then deleting and banning anyone who asks a question or makes a statement that you don't like. Answering such posts on your forums with facts and questions goe a lot further then deleting them. If you think people don't notice such posts simply deleted, you are highly mistaken.
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So I wanna bet? Man, If I could only do it. I'd bet my damn house, car, and everything that I own that despite what you say... you are "Adonys" of Mourning.
Tell me something Mr Draakan... If you guys are soooo f'n different and this is an all new team... WHY IN THE BLUE HELL WOULD YOU WANT TO CONTINUE THE EXACT SAME KIND OF FORUM NAZI-POLICE CRAP THAT THE OLD MOURNING SITE HAD??? Tell me that tuff guy!
I think that sentance says everything abou t you. Why are you shooting? Are you nervous because no one will hear you? And first of all you know nothing about nazi police and to tell such things tells me I talk to a small little boy and nothing more. When you have lived here in germany at this time under those circumstances, you wouldn´t say that.
When I went to your stupid f'n forum boards for this all-new game made by an all new team as you so say, and simply asked if anyone there was the same as before and stated that the admin from this website here said that you guys are exactly the same team as before... You didn't respond. Nope. You didn't handle it like mature professionals that you would expect of a game making company. Instead you did EXACTLY what the old Mourning devs and team would have done... YOU DELETED THE THREAD AND YOU BANNED NOT ONLY MY USER NAME BUT ALSO MY INTERNET IP FROM YOUR SITE!! Lmfao.
You delete my thread. You ban my internet web address from your gay ass site. So... Let's just suppose for one damn second that you are a completely new team....
1) Why would you EVER pay anything for a game with such a horrid reputation as Mourning had? Any amount of money would likely be too much and a losing up-hill battle.
What has the game to do woth that.. I think you have to differ between the publisher, the dev and the game. The game is a good idea and thats it.
2) Why even if you did buy the old game, and are a different team... Why would you treat people on your website from day one exactly as the old Mourning team did? That's just un-thinkable. You ban and delete ANY thread that simply asks understandable questions on your forums rather then handling them with mature, solid answers. What in the hell are you so scared of?
hmm I´m wasn´t an employee of the old comapny, nor I´m an employee of the new company. As no Mod on our forums ever was. Another reason you never followed the game otherwise you would have known
So, Adonys.. Errr so sorry - I mean ummmm... oh yeah.... "Draakan"... What have you got to say now? Isn't is sad that you don't have control over this websites threads and posts. I bet you just wish with all your might you could delete threads and posts at your will over here too don't you?
PATHETIC.
Adonys... Errr Draakan... You give me a pain I can't quite locate.
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So I get your house ( o.k. I doubt you have one) and your car ( i doubt that you have one too) and everything else
Greta shall I give ya my adress ?
I think that sentences abovetells us everything about you. Why are you shouting? Are you nervous because no one will hear you? And first of all you know nothing about nazi police and to tell such things shows me I talk to a small little boy and nothing more. When you have lived here in germany at this time under those circumstances, you wouldn´t say that.
Not I have deleted your post, but when someone thinks to delete your post, you see that there was a reason to do so, so why are you upset about. With that sentence above, here in germany you would get really a problem, you can bet on it
What has the game to do with the payment?.. I think you have to differ between the publisher, the dev and the game. The game is a good idea and thats it, and ye I am a prepaid customer as so many others too. And yes I believe in the idea of bloodline and permadeath, the skill matrix and so on. Thats all. And no I don´t want to play another DAOC/WOW clone why should I and I fight for the game, because I believe in those ideas. And yes I have lost the money and hours and hours of volunteer work. Thats life. But it has nothing to do with the game and game ideas behind it.
hmm I´m wasn´t an employee of the old comapny, nor I´m an employee of the new company. As no Mod on our forums ever was. Another reason you never followed the game otherwise you would have known
I have never bought the game itself or the devs or anything else. I only have bought the licence to play the game as so many other too 
As I said think what you want.
And I delete posts very rarely and why should I delete this post. Only because you are angry about a company I´m not an employee of. The only thing what I hate ist, that so many children like you shout out rumors and have no clue what they are talking about. But that is the fate of the internet, because the children can hide behind their PCs, and have no proof, except their wild thoughts and their wild imaginations 
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You are right, thats why I said in that german language where you can find me
I can proof that I´m a original one.. because i post a url in my signature where I´m doing a nother volunteer work, and there you can see that I come from germany and I live there, because we posted a Cv of all members
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Well XDraakanx. I have not played mourning, nor have I followed it intensively. However I did check out the website and forums on the original and kept tabs on it from time to time. The mods on that forum were not the sort of professionalism I want represented in a game.
And if you are representative of the new game, then I still want nothing to do with it. Quite possibly some of the most unprofessional bit of flaming I have ever seen coming from a company that is trying to solicite money from people.
Don't think I will play your game, and until you sound a bit more mature, I doubt others will too. The other posters on this board can flame you, but if you want money, you can't flame us/them. I know it's not fair. But I expect the people I give money to, to be able to handle problems with cool heads.
You reacted. You knee-jerked. You lost my money.
Venge Sunsoar
To all.
I have been around since UO. Longtime.
If you talk about teh game sec. Mourning had great ideas, concept. I was realy looking forward to it. The graphics were decent good too. Nothing wrong about that. Only the problems around it made my frown and as time went by and things developed on...i early on smellt a big rat or two... The way customers were approached, treated and then xxxx.. to even no content inthe game itself and ripping off those who loved teh concept and fell into the trap..
My decision to play a game is based on beta and or open beta and customer service... no open beta ...
If throne of chaos is worth playing i would still consider it, but i need be in beta like many at mmorpg.com like to be. If your worst enemy is convinced(some maybe) then they know tehy have a good shot.. Secodn ithink they need to cpmpensate those who got a bad deal...
and i donot think draakan is on teh payroll of throne of chaos guys...
to Draakan
So do you have as a fan some more info on the game to share considering above points?
Have no fear, Xru is here.
They way the community was threated earlier was wrong, no doubt. And I can´t say anything but sorry for that. The new publisher knows that too, and noone has lost his money, because everyone who has preordered the game will get a free lifetime account.
There will be a beta, I think in one or two month, and many of those who want a place in beta, will get a place.
Most of the concepts of ToC will be discussed and if you have any greta Ideas, the devs want to hear it.
They mentioned to kick the permadeatch, but most of the community said, they should keep so, so it will be kept.
Most of the animations will be reworked and the ai of the mobs, that was indeed terrible, was reworked too.
So if you have a great idea, of what you are thinkinig that is something or this type of MMo so don´t hastitate and post it
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0k , i see in 1-2 months ..would like to be in beta and give it a honest shot..
Have no fear, Xru is here.
If they decide to come up with another "pre-order", then I'm sorry but I have to laugh hard.
yes.. everyone who has preordered the game earlier will get a free lifetime account.
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If they decide to come up with another "pre-order", then I'm sorry but I have to laugh hard.
you are absolutely right.
And I don´t think that there will be one.
But that is the dcision of the publisher.
There will be a beta and many ppl will have the chance to get into the beta, so you can see what kind of game you will get.
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Wow, just plain wow. Draakan I was never a vocal detractor of Mourning but you are just plain slimy. Not 10 posts earlier your in here flaming as a dev.... wait hold on still laughing...... and now you come with what I can only think of as false sincerity and ovetures of peace to the gaming world as a whole. Give this forum a break for awhile and don't post anything here that will give us time to forget your flames or at least relegate them to the corner of the brain that thinks about such important things as what color of brown is perfect for toast before you come back and post something kind and caring. I'm not buying it and no one else is either.
You'll get a small handfull of folks back to your game, thats it. Good luck Adonys you and Egomancer are going to be rich.
No people that got burned on the FIRST pre-order before the first release of the game get a free life-time account.
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
What about good ole Porno Dave? He always brought me a chuckle.
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
What in the nine hell's is a DAoC or WoW clone? I've yet to see any.
So, xDraakanx, why did you have to come on here with the
name Adonys? That seems very dishonest of you- especially when claiming you
were not xDraakanx to begin with. Or is
that still your claim? I am getting confused…
-W.
Care to explain why the new developer is only 17-years-old with no game making experience outside tetris and bejeweled clones? Or why he is threating to sue people just like the old developer (http://www.krelslibrary.org/)? Or why the new publisher is secert?
...and even though I've not been with the Thrones of Chaos community for long I can't complain about the management so far. Not many have signed up for the community yet, probably also because not many know about it yet, but so far the developers have taken a good interest in the community's voice. Though it might also be because I'm use to the community handling in Dark and Light that I feel like I'm being treated so nice.
As for the nationality discussion I've no reason to doubt either Draakan or Delany, both on private german connection on irc. I know a proxy can handle that matter but untill anything else proven I can't really see how you can claim that Draakan should be lieing
There's been two interviews at RPGVault about Mourning after it closed down
http://rpgvault.ign.com/articles/692/692964p1.html
http://rpgvault.ign.com/articles/709/709875p1.html
as for the speculations based on the registration of various domains I would assume that LoudAnt bought the previous domains related to Mourning...That's at least what I would do if I bought the code for a game that previously had a community!
...but let's see! I could be wrong, I could be right! Untill somebody shows me anything more then just their own hate towards the old developers or that the developers are still the same, then I choose to believe in ToC's success as it has some appealing features without aiming for the unrealistic
Hey Draakan -
You do a good job at flaming and attacking on neutral forums. However your English, much like the old Adonys, is severely lacking. Also you continue to totally avoid valid questions that I and others bring up to you. If these questions are brought up on your forums, you simply DELETE and usually BAN the user from your forums.
Here is a couple of questions I have asked:
1) Why would you EVER pay anything for a game with such a horrid reputation as Mourning had? Any amount of money would likely be too much and a losing up-hill battle.
2) Why even if you did buy the old game, and are a different team... Why would you treat people on your website from day one exactly as the old Mourning team did? That's just un-thinkable. You ban and delete ANY thread that simply asks understandable questions on your forums rather then handling them with mature, solid answers.
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Also, people have asked why this new company is headed by a supposed 17 year old with no previous experience what-so-ever? Is this kid Adonys son perhaps? His nephew? Seriously, what gives here? I also think that this is a more then valid question from the community as a whole. Until you can stop flaming people on neutral forums and banning people on your own forums for getting asked such questions... I think that you will indeed find gaining any new interest a very difficult task indeed. And I can only assume that is why "you" are here. To hope to shed some light on your new game to new potential customers.
Some customers have every right to be suspicious and doubtful of anything new with the new name. This is the fourth morph of the same game. People before paid money for home-made 20 cent CDs with a crappy client on it that had more bugs then you could find under a fallen tree. People were treated like crap instead of customers on the games forums over and over and over.
And your forum bashing continues. You have BANNED my IP address from your forums. If you think I cannot get to your forums because of this, you are mistaken. Banning an IP address does nothing to stop anyone with any basic computer knowledge. And since I have been banned for making ONE post asking about the legitimac of this new game... I have watched your forums over the past couple of days. In this time, I have seen some 23 threads getting "deleted" off of your forums. One of the questions was simply "Hey is Egomancer still around?" That was all that was asked. That question was simply deleted. Probably the person was also banned from your forums as well.
If you think that such forum regulations are something new and trying to hide vaid questions and concerns is better covered up then answered, then this is indeed NOT something new on the games forums. It is exactly the same kind of behavior as all of us who knew of the Mourning forums chaos before witnessed.
Right now, I would say that the only "Thrones of Chaos" I see is the people who are in control of your forums. Those people indeed sit on "Thrones of Chaos" because the way I see it... they are doing nothing but causing even more chaos and negativity towards your game by their behavior then answering the valid questions and concerns with the maturity and professionalism that anyone who pays their hard-earned money for ANY game would expect.
If you are indeed not Adonys, then I sincerely apologize. But I myself witnessed many, many posts by this guy... and the similarities of his and your writing styles and the kind of things you say are very close. Coming onto a neutral forum and flaming one moment and then being overly nice and promising free lifetime accounts to anyone who paid for Mourning is sooo "Adonys". That seems like exactly something that he would do. I am still not convinced that you aren't the same person, but if you are different, so be it. You still must do a lot more yourself and on your own forums to prove anything substantial to those of us who know the unethical and wrong-doings of the Mourning team just last year. Coming on these forums and acting just as he used to certainly doesn't help your cause, unless ofcourse that cause is to get a lot of NEGATIVE attention.
Regardless of everything that I have stated, you will do what you will do. And with that, I offer whoever you are my "Good Luck". You will need all the luck you can get if you ever hope to gain more then a handful of potential new customers.
You said earlier in the thread that you don't intend on making another WoW or EQ2 clone. For your sake, I hope that what ever you produce as a final product is much closer to the WoW and EQ2s we are used to as customers and expect as far as STABILTY is concerned. Put out a high quality product and that will be worth so much more then ten million of your words and promises on every forum out there. Put out another 2005 Mourning disaster or anything similar and ten million words and promises from you will simply be laughed at, mocked, flamed, and dis-respected.
But until then, I would offer you my best advice and that would be to start treating your games forums with the professionalism and maturity gamers and potential customers expect rather then deleting and banning anyone who asks a question or makes a statement that you don't like. Answering such posts on your forums with facts and questions goe a lot further then deleting them. If you think people don't notice such posts simply deleted, you are highly mistaken.
Later.
- Zaxx