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Will it make it 3 months?

JackdogJackdog Member UncommonPosts: 6,321
That was what i voted in that poll that was on here at the games release, but I ma seriously starting to dobt it now. Unless they can survive on a hundred players. People are already comparing to to a single player game. Moderators over atr their forums are ban/lock crazy posssibly thinking that fewer dissenting voices over there will help. It won't, word is already out on the street that the game is crap.

I miss DAoC

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  • RexNebularRexNebular Member Posts: 259

    The game is done for.

    My friend who lives in Poland told me that one of the biggest gaming sites there (1,8 million hits a month) gave a short review of DnL.

    Here's the summary (it's translated, so sorry for any mistakes):

    playability: none

    graphics: nice, if you look at it from a distance of a mile

    advantages: huge world, too bad it's empty

    disadvantages: everything else

    plot: none

    support: average

    new content: what content?

    prospects: none

  • SigneSigne Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 2,524
    Considering what's gone on, and the reputation they've garnered, not to mention the game itself... I sort of wonder how long it'll last, too.  I have no idea what what the subs are like, though I imagine there isn't enough to keep a dev team in Pringles and Jolt.

    PS  I think it's Angelina Jolie you want your wife to resemble. 


  • CurrywurstCurrywurst Member Posts: 19

    I voted 3 Months, too. I can say that from german side the game is dead. On the official board are only the rest of "free month" players, a hand full fanbois and the hardcore fanbois, which are posting and moderates on the board in one person (AD suckers). DnL goes <= 2 months from now.


    Sorry for my english, but it has Potential

  • KilimKilim Member Posts: 546






    About the Subs.
    Someone in the official D&L Site actually brought up a great info.

    Each and EVERY D&L Account MUST have a Forum Account also.
    Now here is the Official D&L Forum membership numbers as of 6/24/2006 at 2:30PM EST.



















    DnL Forums Statistics
    DnL Forums Statistics










    Threads: 61,904, Posts: 1,051,803, Members: 315,633















    Thats 315, 633 Forum accounts.
    We know not ALL of them has an account.
    We do know that there has been thousands of refunds.

    Soemthing to think about.

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  • zimmy910zimmy910 Member UncommonPosts: 190


    Originally posted by Kilim

    Threads: 61,904, Posts: 1,051,803, Members: 315,633Thats 315, 633 Forum accounts.We know not ALL of them has an account.We do know that there has been thousands of refunds.Soemthing to think about.

    Thats probably because the game looked very promising at first. I am one of the 315k forum accounts, I never posted and never played the game after reading about it here.

  • naldricnaldric Member UncommonPosts: 909


    Originally posted by RexNebular

    The game is done for.
    My friend who lives in Poland told me that one of the biggest gaming sites there (1,8 million hits a month) gave a short review of DnL.
    Here's the summary (it's translated, so sorry for any mistakes):
    playability: none
    graphics: nice, if you look at it from a distance of a mile
    advantages: huge world, too bad it's empty
    disadvantages: everything else
    plot: none
    support: average
    new content: what content?
    prospects: none


    That review was biased, a fanboy probably wrote it, because support: average is such a extremist fanboy statment  
  • qotsaqotsa Member UncommonPosts: 835


    Originally posted by Kilim






    About the Subs.
    Someone in the official D&L Site actually brought up a great info.

    Each and EVERY D&L Account MUST have a Forum Account also.
    Now here is the Official D&L Forum membership numbers as of 6/24/2006 at 2:30PM EST.







    DnL Forums Statistics
    DnL Forums Statistics












































    Threads: 61,904, Posts: 1,051,803, Members: 315,633
















    Thats 315, 633 Forum accounts.
    We know not ALL of them has an account.
    We do know that there has been thousands of refunds.

    Soemthing to think about.


    That's nothing to think about really. I'm also one of the 315,000 and I never bought it. Forum users in no way reflect amount of games sold. I would be surprised if they even sold 5,000 copies of that game. I would be even more surprised if 1,00 people still play and haven't asked for a refund.

    I do think they'll still be trying to sukcer people into buying the game 3 months in. It will die before the end of this year.
  • FaydakeenFaydakeen Member Posts: 22

    Don't flame me but I still play every now and then to see if the game improves.

    I know the world is huge but I hardly ever see other players online. 

    Is this good for a game that is still early in its launch?

  • ZvorakZvorak Member Posts: 234


    Originally posted by Jackdog
    That was what i voted in that poll that was on here at the games release, but I ma seriously starting to dobt it now. Unless they can survive on a hundred players. People are already comparing to to a single player game. Moderators over atr their forums are ban/lock crazy posssibly thinking that fewer dissenting voices over there will help. It won't, word is already out on the street that the game is crap.


    Jack,

    I said it LOUDLY during the week of E3, but I predicted the bankruptcy of Farlan as early as April, but I will say it again here on these boards.

    Dark & Light has already flopped..!  (-Zvorak  April '06)

    The MMORPG community has already unofficially voted on this turd indirectly through guild chat, EQ2, EQ, DAOC message boards and other /ooc channels.

    Over the last 3-4 months, 8,881Pioneers left SOG and went home to their guilds and respective games (EQ, DAOC, RZM, SWG,..etc) and told their friends what a POS this game is.

    I logged onto an EQ2 character and even before I got into game the was alot of /ooc chatter about "It's horrible",  "OMG...  that was put together by a bunch of high schoolerz" ...  before i could even /ooc What game are you talking about.. i already knew.. he he.  For the next 20 minutes all everyone did in the whole zone was laugh at how horrible D&L is. 

    THAT was 2 months ago....   now, the game has no chance of redeeming itself !

    -Zvorak

  • PwynnPwynn Member Posts: 45
    This game will not last long.

    For most other MMO's there has been hope but the recent patches are such a disaster and clearly proves that the devs have no clue how to fix this game.

    In a while even the most hardcore fanbois will give up and they game will die.


  • elitwebbelitwebb Member Posts: 342


    Originally posted by Pwynn
    This game will not last long.

    For most other MMO's there has been hope but the recent patches are such a disaster and clearly proves that the devs have no clue how to fix this game.

    In a while even the most hardcore fanbois will give up and they game will die.


    In a while they will have no other choice, when Farlan shuts this shit down and runs off with all the fannyboy money it has left.
  • KilimKilim Member Posts: 546
    I posted the Forum Numbers to just show and think abotu this simple thing.


    With the amount of peopel that has refunded.
    With the amount of people that did not purchase the game.
    With the amount of people that are still refunding the game.

    Subtract those numbers with the current total registered users in the official D&L Forums.

    You get a sum that is the amount of people that "MAYBE" playing or subscribed to D&L".

    The final total just does not look like it will be in the Hundred Thousand.
    I personally do not see it even get in the Ten Thousand marks.
    And you will need many PAYING  monthly subscriptions to keep any project like this afloat.

    That is what I meant by think about it :D

    PS:
    Some of you may already know that Snailgame has delayed the release of D&L in China.
    That is more lost revenue to keep this project alive.


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  • CholaynaCholayna Member Posts: 1,604

    I dunno. Word is out on the street now how lousy this game is as well as its customer service and now the dnl forum moderation is making a gestapo name for itself. Hitting new heights as to the total incompetence in all areas (or lows for that matter). I said it months ago that DNL was a joke in the mmo industry and its beginning to show all over in many aspects. The harder they try to diminish the horrible faults, the more desperate they appear and the worse they make it.

    3 months? maybe..with the recent denial of release by the chinese it very well may look as tho they will not be able to stem the tide of self-promoted failure.

  • kakasakikakasaki Member UncommonPosts: 1,205
    I'm in regular contact with a Click & Buy customer rep who has been working on my refund. Last time I spoke with her she was telling me how DnL has been a huge headache for C&B and hinted that sometime very soon, C&B will break their assosiation with this train wreck.

    A man is his own easiest dupe, for what he wishes to be true he generally believes to be true...

  • ZvorakZvorak Member Posts: 234


    Originally posted by Kilim
    I posted the Forum Numbers to just show and think abotu this simple thing.


    With the amount of peopel that has refunded.
    With the amount of people that did not purchase the game.
    With the amount of people that are still refunding the game.

    Subtract those numbers with the current total registered users in the official D&L Forums.

    You get a sum that is the amount of people that "MAYBE" playing or subscribed to D&L".

    The final total just does not look like it will be in the Hundred Thousand.
    I personally do not see it even get in the Ten Thousand marks.
    And you will need many PAYING  monthly subscriptions to keep any project like this afloat.

    That is what I meant by think about it :D

    PS:
    Some of you may already know that Snailgame has delayed the release of D&L in China.
    That is more lost revenue to keep this project alive.



    Dude,  No more than 4,000 - 5,000 people even bought this game ...!  It has no advertisment, it is not in any stores and anyone who had ANYTHING to do with this game over a year ago ordered it as a Pioneer and got their money back already.

    That leaves about 4 to 5,000 unsuspecting customers who got suckered into buying this game.  Of the 4-5,000 that did buy this game, I'd think that perhaps only 5% will renew their subscription after the first months.

    That means come August, Dark & Light will already be on life support with about 250 people stull subscribing.  This is quite obvious to anyone who been around these game for any length of time.  ie: Horizons had 48,000 copies sold the first month, and still went bankrupt in 7 months.  Farlan is a bargin bin developer and thats how they should've marketed their game... @ $4.99/month.  They would've got alot more customers and people willing to stay threw all the BS.

    The game has already flopped, it's not opinion, it's a FACT ...!!!

    -Zvorak

  • ZippyZippy Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 1,412


    Originally posted by Kilim


    The final total just does not look like it will be in the Hundred Thousand.
    I personally do not see it even get in the Ten Thousand marks.


    10,000?  At this point it would be shocking if they end up with over 100 paying subcribers after the free months end.  This game willo never even come close to have a 1000 paying subscribers.
  • JackdogJackdog Member UncommonPosts: 6,321


    Originally posted by Zvorak

      Farlan is a bargin bin developer and thats how they should've marketed their game... @ $4.99/month. 



    yeah if they gave a free client download and charged 5 bucks a month I would subscribe for a year just for charity to give em a chance to finish the game. No way in hell I will pay premium price and premium sub for a POS alpha/beta though.

    I miss DAoC

  • KilimKilim Member Posts: 546
    Hehe I agree that this game will be more than likely in the thousands the most  and not even near ten thousands.
    I guess I must have worded myself wrong ... sorry guys


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  • GnomadGnomad Member Posts: 377

    Also factor into your numbers Kilim that some of us have more then one forum account for various reasons and that will lower your numbers more.

    Now if they go to a subscription only board then we can see damn quick how many people are actually subs so that is just one more reason that it would be a bad idea for them. I think that they are stupid enough to do just that though, thinking somewhere in the back of their pea-brains that they are making a smart move by "removing" all the haters.

    What are they going to do when they start banning paying customers from the boards? That will really drive the final nails into the coffin.

  • HoplitesHoplites Member CommonPosts: 463
    Believe it or not but there will be people willing to pay a monthly subscription for this game.  But less then 1000 people may not keep it afloat for long.

  • SBE1SBE1 Member UncommonPosts: 340

    The latest in this saga is that the last patch allowed for super-duper weapons which can deliver so much damage they insta-kill mobs that are much higher level.  Combined with the well-known "no armor" bug, some players are leveling at incredible rates. 

    This of course is an exploit, but it has been going on for so long that it has created an imbalance between those who have and have not used the exploit.  I'm not a fan of Mythic, but at least they generally shut down the servers for an emergency patch once an exploit was found.  These clowns at Farlan can't even do that.  Furthermore, they have asked a PLAYER to post on the forums that on behalf of the GMs and devs to destroy the weapons.   Ya, like that's gonna work.

    So, now a debate rages on about a server rollback.  If they rollback the server a few days, it's going to really annoy half the playerbase.  If they don't, the imbalances of the exploiters will not be forgotten.  The third option is to go through the code and find the exploiters and roll them back on a case-by-case basis.  Given how screwed up the game is, I doubt they have the manpower and resources to do a case-by-case basis in a timely manner.

    It's so screwed up now, I actually feel sorry for the fanbois.    I respect that they really want the game to work, but jeez, it's sad when players are abused this much by a defective game. 

    3 months?  Hmm, probably.  Definately not longer than 6.

  • kakasakikakasaki Member UncommonPosts: 1,205
    I think the funniest side effect of the crafting bug is how it has turned fanboi against fanboi. Just go read some of the forum posts over at DnL. It is getting nasty over there! 

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  • tetsultetsul Member Posts: 1,020


    Originally posted by kakasaki
    I think the funniest side effect of the crafting bug is how it has turned fanboi against fanboi. Just go read some of the forum posts over at DnL. It is getting nasty over there! 

    Good thing they banned Zorbane and NS, now the forum is running like a well oiled machine. This production just keeps getting funnier by the day. Love that please don't use bugged weapons post.


  • Originally posted by tetsul

    Originally posted by kakasaki
    I think the funniest side effect of the crafting bug is how it has turned fanboi against fanboi. Just go read some of the forum posts over at DnL. It is getting nasty over there! 
    Good thing they banned Zorbane and NS, now the forum is running like a well oiled machine. This production just keeps getting funnier by the day. Love that please don't use bugged weapons post.


    I agree. Watching them now tear at each other is interesting. Guess this is the "maturity" level that is needed to play such a "complex" game eh?
  • ZvorakZvorak Member Posts: 234


    Originally posted by tetsul

    Originally posted by kakasaki
    I think the funniest side effect of the crafting bug is how it has turned fanboi against fanboi. Just go read some of the forum posts over at DnL. It is getting nasty over there! 
    Good thing they banned Zorbane and NS, now the forum is running like a well oiled machine. This production just keeps getting funnier by the day. Love that please don't use bugged weapons post.



    DAMMIT.... I am banned too.  I was the first, won't anybody give me credit..?   (he he)

    -Zvorak

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