Originally posted by Nitrock Originally posted by melachi You can beat newbies on source public servers with a steering wheel and pedals... CSS pubs are pretty much redundant because theyre full of 10 year olds who are playing for their very first time.
Just look at players from CAL- M or some league which is full of players who are considered average in competitive standards, they'll tear a pub up with 30/0 scores. Your pad man would get slapped.
I won't disagree with you on that, but also source doesn't have as much experienced players as on 1.6.
That's correct, the legendary CS players are all still in 1.6
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i actually prefer my analog to mouse, ibut i dont think pc players will do any better then xbox players. I mean it is all about preference, neither is neccesarily better.
Originally posted by JackBauer24 They said that Xbox 360 players and PC players will not be in battle together but can trade and talk in the cities and stuff.
yes, making sense, else they'd have to quirk the FPS depth of aim (by adding some degree of auto aim) to keep the playing field equal which would certainly annoy every single PC player.
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lol.. i even imagine how console gamers can "talk" .. i hope this happens because I want people to realise that console gaming is not the only way to play games... PC's rule, they do almost everything...
Originally posted by ikra lol.. i even imagine how console gamers can "talk" .. i hope this happens because I want people to realise that console gaming is not the only way to play games... PC's rule, they do almost everything...
Ive come to the conclusion that the XBOX will be like a handicap that dissolves, eventually 360 users will get up to the accuracy of PC users but this will take a few months for most players. Im up for the challenge
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If you google for XBox mouse keyboard, you will find that there are mouse and keyboard adapters available now. I have not tried any of those since I'm a PC player myself, but if they work as well mouse/keyboard on the PC, the question may be moot.
The developers have said that they will not have PC and 360 players competing with/against each other like they originally planned. In the article I read one of the developers said they could not figure out how to balance it so that the console players were not at a disadvantage.
Originally posted by GMunnyWhiske i actually prefer my analog to mouse, ibut i dont think pc players will do any better then xbox players. I mean it is all about preference, neither is neccesarily better.
PC v's 360 will be fun but no competition really in a straight contest
My 2 favourite games are BF2 on the PC and COD2 on the 360 and there is quite a difference is between them.
One is a more serious & prescise 'head shot' type of game built around the accuracy of a mouse and keyboard.
The other has more traditional arcadey game play, less dependant on head shots and more built around romping around having fun.
The spread/accuracy and damage of weapons cannot be the same for Joypad and M&Kb. It simply would not work.
Both games are classics and up there with the best on their own systems, but those systems are quite different.
Hopefully, with the 360 players getting their own side they will get the tweaks they need to stay competitive. I just hope they don't use a horrible auto-aim system.
& personally, I would get the 360 version as with any mmorpg a lot of hours are required and I'd rather spend them on my settee than a computer chair
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I still laugh when I think of console vs. PC in a true FPS. I've watched people playing an "FPS" (Ghost Recon AWF) on XBox and it is pretty laughable. For one: the game is dumbed down to make it work with the console. For two: the reaction and accuracy of a console just isn't there. This guy insisted he could take me, but I've watched and seen otherwise.
I just hope they somehow flag what side you're from, so the arguments can cease. If I play this game and start a guild, I would do my best to not invite a 360 player. lol
Honestly most people probably wont notice if the 360 was designed correctly.
If you read up on the new shadowrun 360 thats being made, it was playtested on pcs, 360, and a pc with a controller, and it was near impossible to tell who was on what.
Of course they could just not optimize it, and itll be really unbalanced... but here to hoping since id probably get this on the 360.
Originally posted by spunger Are they seriously going to pit PC players against XBox360 players? Wow, good luck to all who are going to use an xbox...you have absolutely no chance of ever winning. I can already see whats going to happen. All the PC guys are gonna dominate the Xbox guys till all the xbox guys cry and quit the game.
wow your a dumbas arn't you? Its seperate we don't play together. God your a big dubass.
Originally posted by spunger Are they seriously going to pit PC players against XBox360 players? Wow, good luck to all who are going to use an xbox...you have absolutely no chance of ever winning. I can already see whats going to happen. All the PC guys are gonna dominate the Xbox guys till all the xbox guys cry and quit the game.
wow your a dumbas arn't you? Its seperate we don't play together. God your a big dubass.
Originally posted by spunger Are they seriously going to pit PC players against XBox360 players? Wow, good luck to all who are going to use an xbox...you have absolutely no chance of ever winning. I can already see whats going to happen. All the PC guys are gonna dominate the Xbox guys till all the xbox guys cry and quit the game.
wow your a dumbas arn't you? Its seperate we don't play together. God your a big dubass.
Uhhh... I'm pretty sure they are going to play together. PC users can choose from the Sapiens and Alternatives, while Xbox 360 users play as the Hybrids. You should really do some research before degrading others. Otherwise, you end up looking like the dumbass instead. lol
Everyone is hitting key points on the issue but you have to imagine what the classes and race of the XBox360 version is going to turn into. For all we know they could have specific things that make them more agile or some kind of aiming buff to make up for the analog's poor accuracy.
The Xbox game is going to have a single player mode but it wont be incorperated into the MMO itself. From what I can take from all the quotes is that it will only be the XBox players jumping into the mix on the PC tournies, matches, ect. Are XBox players using the single player mode to rank/level up? If so they have a huge advantage over us PC gamers for the simple fact they will be playing AI not humans to get up on the ranking lists.
Last I would just like to say that PC gamers have a better customization layout, we can change our keys to fit our playing style, but XBoxers (underware line comming up soon Microsoft?) will have set layouts that wont really give them what they want in their layout, but as said, a keyboard and mouse could come out for 360.... but then whats the point on playing it on the 360? You just turn it into a PC...
Is it a simultanious release or are they broken up? If so whichever releases first will have a slight advantage over that which launches second.
Originally posted by spunger Are they seriously going to pit PC players against XBox360 players? Wow, good luck to all who are going to use an xbox...you have absolutely no chance of ever winning. I can already see whats going to happen. All the PC guys are gonna dominate the Xbox guys till all the xbox guys cry and quit the game.
wow your a dumbas arn't you? Its seperate we don't play together. God your a big dubass.
Uhhh... I'm pretty sure they are going to play together. PC users can choose from the Sapiens and Alternatives, while Xbox 360 users play as the Hybrids. You should really do some research before degrading others. Otherwise, you end up looking like the dumbass instead. lol
A few months back one of the PC gaming magazines had an interview with one of Huxley's developers. He said that PC and console gamers would not compete against each other. His reasoning was because it was just too difficult to make it a level playing field.
When the console version hits the shelf(estimated six months after the PC release) there is supposed to be a way for PC and 360 players to communicate but not actually fight/team with each other.
Originally posted by xPaladin Eh, don't be so quick to bash 360 players. Some of them can use the analogs as well as a mouse. It's all about configurations and sensitivites. Also Huxley itself doesn't appear to be a very *FAST* game like Quake, Unreal Tournament, or Counter Strike. It looks to be on the pace of Battlefield, which means 360 players should do fairly well.
I understand where the animosity comes from though. There's nothing more fustrating for me personally than getting suckered into and horribly losing a game of "softcore" Halo (25 - 3) against people I regularly eat for breakfast (15 - -2) in just about any other "hardcore" FPS.
Actually, judging from the gameplay videos that were released on YouTube and whatnot a fair few months ago... you're wrong. It appears that Huxley plays a lot faster than I originally anticipated - much more like a UT than a Battlefield. A very positive step forward, finally a developer who dares to make an interesting (fast-paced) mmofps game. Those gameplay videos really convinced me that Huxley might just be a great new game to play in 2007. I had feared it'd be another one of those horribly slow-paced and mindnumbing Battlefield-like games, but it turns out it's much much faster - or at least it was at E3 2006
As for Xbox360 players vs PC players. Mouse and Keyboard are simply far more accurate, there's nothing to debate here - that's a pure and simple fact. Now it appears that console players won't even get to play against or with PC players in Huxley, but if they did you'd see PC players on top every time... not just because mouse and keyboard are more accurate, but also because Huxley will be a rather fast-paced game - and controllers just don't work well with fast-paced (or should I say: 'interesting and enjoyable') FPS games...
Actually, judging from the gameplay videos that were released on YouTube and whatnot a fair few months ago... you're wrong. It appears that Huxley plays a lot faster than I originally anticipated - much more like a UT than a Battlefield. A very positive step forward, finally a developer who dares to make an interesting (fast-paced) mmofps game. Those gameplay videos really convinced me that Huxley might just be a great new game to play in 2007. I had feared it'd be another one of those horribly slow-paced and mindnumbing Battlefield-like games, but it turns out it's much much faster - or at least it was at E3 2006
What about the snipers? Personally I love to snipe and do stealth kills and such, and if the game is really that fast-paced the snipers get screwed and are basically worthless if they don't have a machine gun around in the middle of the chaos.
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That's correct, the legendary CS players are all still in 1.6
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i actually prefer my analog to mouse, ibut i dont think pc players will do any better then xbox players. I mean it is all about preference, neither is neccesarily better.
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If you google for XBox mouse keyboard, you will find that there are mouse and keyboard adapters available now. I have not tried any of those since I'm a PC player myself, but if they work as well mouse/keyboard on the PC, the question may be moot.
PC v's 360 will be fun but no competition really in a straight contest
My 2 favourite games are BF2 on the PC and COD2 on the 360 and there is quite a difference is between them.
One is a more serious & prescise 'head shot' type of game built around the accuracy of a mouse and keyboard.
The other has more traditional arcadey game play, less dependant on head shots and more built around romping around having fun.
The spread/accuracy and damage of weapons cannot be the same for Joypad and M&Kb. It simply would not work.
Both games are classics and up there with the best on their own systems, but those systems are quite different.
Hopefully, with the 360 players getting their own side they will get the tweaks they need to stay competitive. I just hope they don't use a horrible auto-aim system.
& personally, I would get the 360 version as with any mmorpg a lot of hours are required and I'd rather spend them on my settee than a computer chair
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I still laugh when I think of console vs. PC in a true FPS. I've watched people playing an "FPS" (Ghost Recon AWF) on XBox and it is pretty laughable. For one: the game is dumbed down to make it work with the console. For two: the reaction and accuracy of a console just isn't there. This guy insisted he could take me, but I've watched and seen otherwise.
I just hope they somehow flag what side you're from, so the arguments can cease. If I play this game and start a guild, I would do my best to not invite a 360 player. lol
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If you read up on the new shadowrun 360 thats being made, it was playtested on pcs, 360, and a pc with a controller, and it was near impossible to tell who was on what.
Of course they could just not optimize it, and itll be really unbalanced... but here to hoping since id probably get this on the 360.
or they cry and all buy PCs
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Uhhh... I'm pretty sure they are going to play together. PC users can choose from the Sapiens and Alternatives, while Xbox 360 users play as the Hybrids. You should really do some research before degrading others. Otherwise, you end up looking like the dumbass instead. lol
The Xbox game is going to have a single player mode but it wont be incorperated into the MMO itself. From what I can take from all the quotes is that it will only be the XBox players jumping into the mix on the PC tournies, matches, ect.
Are XBox players using the single player mode to rank/level up? If so they have a huge advantage over us PC gamers for the simple fact they will be playing AI not humans to get up on the ranking lists.
Last I would just like to say that PC gamers have a better customization layout, we can change our keys to fit our playing style, but XBoxers (underware line comming up soon Microsoft?) will have set layouts that wont really give them what they want in their layout, but as said, a keyboard and mouse could come out for 360.... but then whats the point on playing it on the 360? You just turn it into a PC...
Is it a simultanious release or are they broken up? If so whichever releases first will have a slight advantage over that which launches second.
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Uhhh... I'm pretty sure they are going to play together. PC users can choose from the Sapiens and Alternatives, while Xbox 360 users play as the Hybrids. You should really do some research before degrading others. Otherwise, you end up looking like the dumbass instead. lol
A few months back one of the PC gaming magazines had an interview with one of Huxley's developers. He said that PC and console gamers would not compete against each other. His reasoning was because it was just too difficult to make it a level playing field.
When the console version hits the shelf(estimated six months after the PC release) there is supposed to be a way for PC and 360 players to communicate but not actually fight/team with each other.
As for Xbox360 players vs PC players. Mouse and Keyboard are simply far more accurate, there's nothing to debate here - that's a pure and simple fact. Now it appears that console players won't even get to play against or with PC players in Huxley, but if they did you'd see PC players on top every time... not just because mouse and keyboard are more accurate, but also because Huxley will be a rather fast-paced game - and controllers just don't work well with fast-paced (or should I say: 'interesting and enjoyable') FPS games...
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