Originally posted by Neanderthal I was reading this thread with some amusement but found it all too depressingly stupid to actually get involved in it. But now, admriker444, you have convinced me that you truly are insane and delusional. Or you just enjoy telling outrageous lies on message boards to try to get people worked up over nothing. I don't believe that you even understand the basic idea behind this thing because you claimed it had something to do with zero point energy. It has absolutely nothing to do with zpe. It doesn't even claim to in the patent. It works with magnetic induction (if it did work). The same principle used in any garden variety electrical generator. You want me to explain to you how it's supposed to work? I see what it's supposed to do. You know that if you move a magnetic feild over a conductor that it induces an electrical current right? Ok. So the idea with this thing is that they take a permanent magnet. Positive and negative poles. Around each pole of the magnet they put a couple of copper coils. Now they use a battery to run an electric current through the coil aroud one of the poles. You understand that if you run a current through a coil of wire that it creates a magnetic field, right? Ok. So the idea is that when they run a current through this coil it sets up a magnetic field that is directly opposed to the field of the permanent magnet. This causes fluxuations in the field lines thus inducing a current in the secondary coil. You take the current from the second coil and run it through a coil at the other end of the magnet thus setting up another magnetic field in opposition to the field of the permanent magnet at that pole. Field fluxuations ensue thus inducing a current in the secondary coil at that end which you then direct back to the first coil where this all started. And once you get it started it goes on and on forever and ever and ever with no external input of energy after that first little trickle from a battery. Right? Wrong. It doesn't work. It can't work. And, forgive me for saying this but anyone who passed 4th grade science should know that it wouldn't work. First, unless you are using a perfect superconductor you will lose current all through the process. Meaning that even if it did work for a while it would run down pretty quickly once you cut off the external power. Second, even if you were using a perfect superconductor you couldn't draw any current out of the circuit to be used to power, say, a light bulb...because every bit you drew out would weaken the magnetic fields you induce with your coils at the poles of the magnet which would reduce the amount of current you induce in the secondary coils. And in this case the thing would run down even more quickly. If you started the thing up you might have an electric current flowing for a while. But it wouldn't generate any new electricity. You would just be circulating that initial bit indroduced from an external source around and around in a closed circuit for a while untill it ran down. admriker, you are either delusional or you are feeding people on this board a line of BS. But I didn't post this for your sake I posted it for the sake of anyone who is buying into this crap. Think about it people. For gods sake just use your brains. Nobody is suppressing this marvelous technology. It's being posted on a mmorpg message board. If anyone is trying to suppress it they are doing a piss poor job. Oh, but they (whoever "they" are) won't let it be manufactured. So what? If you really, truly believe that this thing works to generate 'free energy' all you have to do is build one for yourself. The patent is there for you to look at. It's all very clearly explained. Just make your own. Oh, is it too much trouble to go to? Not if you really believe that it works. Free electricity for the rest of your life. If you really, really believe it then get off your arses and build your own. People who rant about crap like this but don't care enough to verify it for themselves really piss me off. If you really care. If you really believe. THEN BUILD ONE AND SEE IF IT WORKS! But it won't work. I absolutely guaranttee that it won't. But don't take my word for it. The plans are right there for you to look at. Just build your own and see.
Awesome, that's exactly what I was thinking myself, but the jargon-babble was way too thick for me to dig through it and I could have been misunderstanding the claims of the invention.
Originally posted by Neanderthal I was reading this thread with some amusement but found it all too depressingly stupid to actually get involved in it. But now, admriker444, you have convinced me that you truly are insane and delusional. Or you just enjoy telling outrageous lies on message boards to try to get people worked up over nothing. I don't believe that you even understand the basic idea behind this thing because you claimed it had something to do with zero point energy. It has absolutely nothing to do with zpe. It doesn't even claim to in the patent. It works with magnetic induction (if it did work). The same principle used in any garden variety electrical generator. You want me to explain to you how it's supposed to work? I see what it's supposed to do. You know that if you move a magnetic feild over a conductor that it induces an electrical current right? Ok. So the idea with this thing is that they take a permanent magnet. Positive and negative poles. Around each pole of the magnet they put a couple of copper coils. Now they use a battery to run an electric current through the coil aroud one of the poles. You understand that if you run a current through a coil of wire that it creates a magnetic field, right? Ok. So the idea is that when they run a current through this coil it sets up a magnetic field that is directly opposed to the field of the permanent magnet. This causes fluxuations in the field lines thus inducing a current in the secondary coil. You take the current from the second coil and run it through a coil at the other end of the magnet thus setting up another magnetic field in opposition to the field of the permanent magnet at that pole. Field fluxuations ensue thus inducing a current in the secondary coil at that end which you then direct back to the first coil where this all started. And once you get it started it goes on and on forever and ever and ever with no external input of energy after that first little trickle from a battery. Right? Wrong. It doesn't work. It can't work. And, forgive me for saying this but anyone who passed 4th grade science should know that it wouldn't work. First, unless you are using a perfect superconductor you will lose current all through the process. Meaning that even if it did work for a while it would run down pretty quickly once you cut off the external power. Second, even if you were using a perfect superconductor you couldn't draw any current out of the circuit to be used to power, say, a light bulb...because every bit you drew out would weaken the magnetic fields you induce with your coils at the poles of the magnet which would reduce the amount of current you induce in the secondary coils. And in this case the thing would run down even more quickly. If you started the thing up you might have an electric current flowing for a while. But it wouldn't generate any new electricity. You would just be circulating that initial bit indroduced from an external source around and around in a closed circuit for a while untill it ran down. admriker, you are either delusional or you are feeding people on this board a line of BS. But I didn't post this for your sake I posted it for the sake of anyone who is buying into this crap. Think about it people. For gods sake just use your brains. Nobody is suppressing this marvelous technology. It's being posted on a mmorpg message board. If anyone is trying to suppress it they are doing a piss poor job. Oh, but they (whoever "they" are) won't let it be manufactured. So what? If you really, truly believe that this thing works to generate 'free energy' all you have to do is build one for yourself. The patent is there for you to look at. It's all very clearly explained. Just make your own. Oh, is it too much trouble to go to? Not if you really believe that it works. Free electricity for the rest of your life. If you really, really believe it then get off your arses and build your own. People who rant about crap like this but don't care enough to verify it for themselves really piss me off. If you really care. If you really believe. THEN BUILD ONE AND SEE IF IT WORKS! But it won't work. I absolutely guaranttee that it won't. But don't take my word for it. The plans are right there for you to look at. Just build your own and see.
Apparently people don't have to be playing a mmog in order to get PWNED. fuzzy thinking 0 . . . neanderthal 1
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Please go do some research. A patent is merely a claim on an idea, you need not have proof to submit the patent.
read dreamscome's post directly above ^
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Apparently people don't have to be playing a mmog in order to get PWNED.
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