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WAR vs WoW? Why not 40k?

I wait for the games, WAR is the one of them. I check every news and think about WoW. Any differences? Not too much as I can see. Why not WAR 40k instead? Maybe that can be more interesting (for me). Is there any possibility, that WAR 40k come?
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  • AnagethAnageth Member Posts: 2,217


    Originally posted by Nimr0d23
    I wait for the games, WAR is the one of them. I check every news and think about WoW. Any differences? Not too much as I can see. Why not WAR 40k instead? Maybe that can be more interesting (for me). Is there any possibility, that WAR 40k come?


    Mmm... other than the fact that the Warhammer world was created a good decade before Warcraft?

    As much a chance as there is a World of Starcraft.

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  • Distortion0Distortion0 Member Posts: 668
    Warhammer has Chaos, a concept hundreds of times better than anything Warcraft has. Trust me, it's a much better IP.
  • VideoXPGVideoXPG Member Posts: 268
    I'll be very amused if I see a Warhammer 40K Online vs a World of Starcraft debate come around in the near future.

  • Nimr0d23Nimr0d23 Member Posts: 58
    I think there is no plan for World of Starcraft. 

  • VideoXPGVideoXPG Member Posts: 268
    Very true...for now. Vivendi won't just let this success in WoW go unanswered. Although it is a simple comparrison over the idea that Warhammer was to WarCraft as Warhammer 40K was to StarCraft no less.

    Right now according to an article on this site, there are no real plans for a Warhammer 40K MMO addition, but same for StarCraft. Althought I will not be surprised if in the future both of those IPs see an MMO medium.


  • NeuroXlNeuroXl Member Posts: 291


    Originally posted by Nimr0d23
    I wait for the games, WAR is the one of them. I check every news and think about WoW. Any differences? Not too much as I can see. Why not WAR 40k instead? Maybe that can be more interesting (for me). Is there any possibility, that WAR 40k come?


    if WAR does phenomenal, you can bet they will follow it up with a 40k mmo ....
  • NullapaxNullapax Member Posts: 401
    I would dearly love to see a W40K game done like Planetside.

    They could launch with three races ( Marines - Orks - Eldar ) and then bring out an expansion each year for the next two or three years with an extra two or three races in each.
    The racial design and history is allready in place so minimal work to be done there.

    If Planetside can remain profitable all these years with all it's faults and lack of support/extras, then a W40K version should be a certain success in my opinion


  • ZalKinZalKin Member Posts: 31
    The only resemblance you can see with WAR and WoW is that they have orcs, dwarf, humans and elves. Altough the WoW races dont resemblance the WAR races one bit (In the way they think and act.) And maybe that the grafiks "looks like WoW". As we all know WoW was PvE based and WAR will be PvP based, but you can PvE the whole game if you like that. So read about the gameplay to see the differences between games.


    Originally posted by Nimr0d23
    I wait for the games, WAR is the one of them. I check every news and think about WoW. Any differences? Not too much as I can see. Why not WAR 40k instead? Maybe that can be more interesting (for me). Is there any possibility, that WAR 40k come?


  • AranStormahAranStormah Member Posts: 278
    If you don't spot the difference then you can't be trying ;)





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    A MMOFPS Warhammer 40k would be awesome though.
  • VideoXPGVideoXPG Member Posts: 268
    An MMOFPS does seem to work better for 40K than an MMORPG environment would do so.

  • HeadMunchHeadMunch Member Posts: 11
    Its very true that 40K involves lots of guns etc, which lends itself to a mmofps... But, 40K have lots of meele, assault troops and generel close combat delight. I played planetside, and meele was abysmal. I would say the closer you get to a target the more pivotal ping becomes.

    To sum it up, 40K wouldn't be 40K without khornate berserkers batteling it out with eldar banshe aspect warriors.


  • PantasticPantastic Member Posts: 1,204

    How would they make a 40k MMORPG that stays rempotely close to the backstory and allows players to play the popular 'races' like Space Marines, Eldar, Orks, and Chaos? Most of the different races don't interact outside of shooting each other, and you don't generally have solo space marines wandering around poking into everything. I don't really see how they'd manage to pull it off, while an all-combat MMOFPS-type game where everyone just fights removes the problem of fitting 'individuals doing stuff' with the 40k backstory.

  • ShaydeShayde Member Posts: 4,529


    Originally posted by Anageth

    As much a chance as there is a World of Starcraft.


    Sweeeeet. Because Bliz is already making World of Starcraft!

    40K here we come!!!!

    Anyone who says 40K wouldn't work as an MMO is just not thinking outside the box. It can be done.

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  • Nimr0d23Nimr0d23 Member Posts: 58
    Sweeeeet. Because Bliz is already making World of Starcraft!


    Hope that you are right and we can see that very soon. 

  • AnagethAnageth Member Posts: 2,217


    Originally posted by Nimr0d23
    Sweeeeet. Because Bliz is already making World of Starcraft!


    Hope that you are right and we can see that very soon. 


    He was being sarcastic, it was an April Fool's joke.

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  • NullapaxNullapax Member Posts: 401


    Originally posted by Pantastic

    How would they make a 40k MMORPG that stays rempotely close to the backstory and allows players to play the popular 'races' like Space Marines, Eldar, Orks, and Chaos? Most of the different races don't interact outside of shooting each other, and you don't generally have solo space marines wandering around poking into everything. I don't really see how they'd manage to pull it off, while an all-combat MMOFPS-type game where everyone just fights removes the problem of fitting 'individuals doing stuff' with the 40k backstory.


    Your probably right Pantastic.
    Best if everyone just surrenders now and no one tries to come up with anything new.

    Move along folks - nothing to see here ... nothing to see .....
  • ShaydeShayde Member Posts: 4,529


    Originally posted by Anageth

    Originally posted by Nimr0d23
    Sweeeeet. Because Bliz is already making World of Starcraft!


    Hope that you are right and we can see that very soon. 

    He was being sarcastic, it was an April Fool's joke.


    Not according to the 2007 forecasts. They already announced that a Starcraft MMO is in the works.

    http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3151483

    Of course that is Vivendi talking, Bliz isn't confirming it.

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  • VideoXPGVideoXPG Member Posts: 268
    A Blizzard poster in the WoW forums denied those claims....for now.

  • Fenrir767Fenrir767 Member Posts: 595
    Blizzard is gonna have enough trouble keeping wow enjoyable with the new games coming out I don't think they'll have time to work on something like Starcraft Galaxies

  • BlurrBlurr Member UncommonPosts: 2,155

    As for why the WAR MMO isn't WH40K:

    When the original developers (before mythic took it over) were making the game, I had the chance to talk with them at length about the game. Personally I like WH40k better than Fantasy, even though Fantasy is awesome, so I posed such a question to the lead designer (at the time).

    He went into a bunch of different reasons, and I'll give a few of his points:

    -World Size: Warhammer Fantasy takes place on one planet, while WH40k takes place across an entire galaxy.
    -Individuality: In WH40k, if you're a space marine, you're only 1 of millions of space marines and you don't matter so much. With Fantasy, it's easier to bring the player's character to the forefront as an important person.
    -Popularity: I'm not sure if it's still true, but at the time more people liked fantasy than 40k
    -Established in the Genre: Fantasy mmo's are already established in the genre as being relatively successful. There are far fewer Sci-Fi mmo's out there.

    I forget the rest, I have an interview with the guy on a vhs somewhere but I've yet to find it.

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  • Nimr0d23Nimr0d23 Member Posts: 58
    Originally posted by Blurr


    He went into a bunch of different reasons, and I'll give a few of his points:
    -World Size: Warhammer Fantasy takes place on one planet, while WH40k takes place across an entire galaxy.
    -Individuality: In WH40k, if you're a space marine, you're only 1 of millions of space marines and you don't matter so much. With Fantasy, it's easier to bring the player's character to the forefront as an important person.
    -Popularity: I'm not sure if it's still true, but at the time more people liked fantasy than 40k
    -Established in the Genre: Fantasy mmo's are already established in the genre as being relatively successful. There are far fewer Sci-Fi mmo's out there.


    So with other words maybe it's too much job for them right now.
  • RJCoxRJCox Member Posts: 2,686


    Originally posted by Nimr0d23
    Originally posted by Blurr


    He went into a bunch of different reasons, and I'll give a few of his points:
    -World Size: Warhammer Fantasy takes place on one planet, while WH40k takes place across an entire galaxy.
    -Individuality: In WH40k, if you're a space marine, you're only 1 of millions of space marines and you don't matter so much. With Fantasy, it's easier to bring the player's character to the forefront as an important person.
    -Popularity: I'm not sure if it's still true, but at the time more people liked fantasy than 40k
    -Established in the Genre: Fantasy mmo's are already established in the genre as being relatively successful. There are far fewer Sci-Fi mmo's out there.

    So with other words maybe it's too much job for them right now.


    He's referring to the previous holders of the license, Climax, not Mythic.

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  • ShaydeShayde Member Posts: 4,529
    There's few sci-fi games because there's too many lazy companies who think THEIR elves will be kewler than the other guys elves. Just look at Dark & Light, or Vanguard. They're bringing nothing new to the table... hell Warhammer is only special because it IS Warhammer. If Mythic was making ANY other fantasy game nobody would care. Exhibit A: D&D Online.

    Give me a good sci-fi MMO and you'll never see me playing another game. SWG used to have me until they screwed that up... I'd pre-order a 40K mmo right now.


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  • NimuelNimuel Member UncommonPosts: 163


    Originally posted by Shayde
    There's few sci-fi games because there's too many lazy companies who think THEIR elves will be kewler than the other guys elves. Just look at Dark & Light, or Vanguard. They're bringing nothing new to the table... hell Warhammer is only special because it IS Warhammer. If Mythic was making ANY other fantasy game nobody would care. Exhibit A: D&D Online.

    Give me a good sci-fi MMO and you'll never see me playing another game. SWG used to have me until they screwed that up... I'd pre-order a 40K mmo right now.




    If D&D online had been based on the Forgotten Realms universe it would most likely have been ALOT more successfull, people are just no into that Eberron crap that's pretty much just stiched together from bits and pieces from other Fantasy worlds...

    I guess they're thinking something along the lines of 'take the best of everything and put it together'.. problem is no matter how good those pieces are in their original environment, you're still creating 'frankenstein'.

    We seem to have a built in biological dislike of things we can place as a cloned from somewhere else, in other words we seem to instinctively appreciate originality.

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  • ShaydeShayde Member Posts: 4,529


    Originally posted by Nimuel

    Originally posted by Shayde
    There's few sci-fi games because there's too many lazy companies who think THEIR elves will be kewler than the other guys elves. Just look at Dark & Light, or Vanguard. They're bringing nothing new to the table... hell Warhammer is only special because it IS Warhammer. If Mythic was making ANY other fantasy game nobody would care. Exhibit A: D&D Online.

    Give me a good sci-fi MMO and you'll never see me playing another game. SWG used to have me until they screwed that up... I'd pre-order a 40K mmo right now.



    If D&D online had been based on the Forgotten Realms universe it would most likely have been ALOT more successfull, people are just no into that Eberron crap that's pretty much just stiched together from bits and pieces from other Fantasy worlds...

    I guess they're thinking something along the lines of 'take the best of everything and put it together'.. problem is no matter how good those pieces are in their original environment, you're still creating 'frankenstein'.

    We seem to have a built in biological dislike of things we can place as a cloned from somewhere else, in other words we seem to instinctively appreciate originality.


    Nayh.. you had to actually play that to get the "Wrong Realm" idea, and that also took into account that you actually played D&D in that realm.

    No.. Turbine just took a license that should have been MMO gold and made a piss-poor game with it. Almost as bad as $OE taking Star Wars and killing it.

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