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dannru
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what a dissapointment so far laggiest game ive ever played had barbarian mission of firewood pile 80%done and day ended so i lost aslll my work what bs 
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Laggiest? I actually haven't been having much lag at all. Around 80 ms.
It was said in several places, including the Wiki/manual, that projectsites with 1 quality would decay after the change of day...
- Starcius
"Rome wasn't coded in a day"
- Kanoth
There is a memory leak ,its all over the participant forum and even RB agrees with this.
So pointless trying to convince folks on this forum that this is not happening.You can't stay online for more then 30 mins before requiring a reboot to clear the RAM even if you have 2GB.
Glad to hear its been seen into.
Err, and what ever happenned to those wiz bang graphics that were going to come with release?
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
To me i entered the game with the knowledge that the graphics will not be too hot .After all i play EQ2 !
So i am not at all bothered about the graphics though i have posted a few times in the thread about the graphics but thats purely because ppl are posting screenies that are not a true reflection of the game and would like everyone to be aware of the true graphics.
So i rather the other issues i mentioned before of which one is the memory leak be fixed and then i could actually consider recommending the game to folks .
But here is the graphics.
http://img390.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot2006731451402cd.png
But please remember a mmorpg is much more then the graphics of the game.
by the way fadeus been a while since i visited your screen gallery .looking good.Are you on WoW now?
Not my point though. Everyone sat and harped on about how those aren't he final graphics and they are using "low-rez" textures for beta testing. So now that the game is final where are these great graphics that were supposed to happen?
Wether a game can be good with budget graphics is another discussion and one I wouldn't argue because ther are good games out there that aren't all about the bling. However RV was ANOTHER of those games that I kept hearing about how it's a beta and they are only testing graphics and how it is going to get much better.
So where are these mythical great graphics...
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
Graphics are not the most important part of a MMOG IMO, but they do matter.
Game companies always release the most recent screenshots available at the highest settings possible in order to promote their product and awe potential customers.
The screenshots currently available are obviously the best graphics possible atm. Only time will tell if the graphics improve, and no one, not even the rabid fanbois, know otherwise.
I posted this back on 8/22/05. I was right again. The graphics then are the graphics now and it's not going to get any better.
The disturbing thing is not that the graphics are weak, but that Redbedlam lied. Like they lied about setting a limit for buying in-game coin. There is a pattern of deceit.
Look at what KFR said in response to my post and tell me if the graphics currently fit his description.
KFR
P.S. The graphics engine is our own - built from scratch within this year. It's really rather sophisticated, extremely capable and integrates perfectly with the other engines that we've had to build - network, sound etc.
P.P.S. When we get to implement all the latest graphics features I'm actually pretty confident that we'll look better than most big-brand MMORPG's out there. After all we'll have most, if not all, of the same graphical systems that the others have and, in my opinion, we already have much better art material than most."
http://mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/49675/page/3 link added
"We feel gold selling and websites that promote it damage games like Vanguard and will do everything possible to combat it."
Brad McQuaid
Chairman & CEO, Sigil Games Online, Inc.
Executive Producer, Vanguard: Saga of Heroes
www.vanguardsoh
ouch never saw that post.Truth is small companies are desperate to be able to push in big companies ground.
But i totally agree with you they should just say "ok we know our graphics aren't top notch but look beyond it at the gameplay and features.As more money flows in we will improve the engine".I mean DAoC came out in 2001 looking worse then AO by a mile,worse then EQ1 which was already 2 yrs + then.
Mythic even acknowledge the graphics was not top notch and the matter died there because the gameplay was so awesome.As time went by and they got money they did improve the graphics which as of today looks much better then AO,while at launch it was worse then AO.
If that quote is right then all i can is they brought it upon themselves that ppl are asking about the graphics now.Simple admission and focusing on gameplay was the way to go.
Same, I have never seen KFR mention about the graphics getting better, only Kanoth (who lied as jorev said in another thread here)
Yep i know the little time i spent in beta and asked about the graphics i got 2 replies that it will be better.
It might be an urban legend which ppl just took to be coming out of RB which might not be so.
But on other hand i still see ppl on this site post screenies which looks better then the ingame ones and claim it is so.
I think total honesty will do more good then bad.If you make Mr.A buy a game based on a screenshot he will be bitterly dissapointed no matter how good (if at all but thats another issue) the game turns out.He will then ensure no one else get suckered into it by posting horrible reviews.
Lets just accept the graphics is bad and look at the other issues.I think RB has much more worries atm then graphics tbh.
The fact they lied about the graphics though isnt very good.
If there were so many bears outin the woods, where would the challenge be in hunting?
We're waiting on the new release of SpeedGrass, it'll be easier to impliment, and frankly look nicer than the grass we had. The textures have been updated throughout the beta...the last one to be upgraded is the actual ground. Screenshots dont do the textures justice you'd really have to get a screenshot of closeups of armor, faces, clothing, etc. As soon as players start settling in to the game and building their homes, they can start decorating them with moseics, murals, furnature, etc.
Graphics will always be improved upon, but being a non-instanced MMORPG I doubt they'll be on par with the big names out there. That said. I know they still intend to add the SpeedGrass, doors, shutters, gutters (still a debate on what the gutters should look like though), shadows, etc.
"Rome wasn't coded in a day"
- Kanoth
Ah, and about being called a liar. Graphics is such a broad term. Are the graphics in RV better now than they were in August of last year. Yes they are...no question. What was improved may not have been what some wanted improved, but the overall graphic content of RV has been improved. One graphics artist that has to make the models and the textures while working part time doesnt put out visual improvments as fast as many would like. And as I said above, graphics will continue to improve.
Jorev has been a troll for this and many other games on the MMORPG forums. He likes to get a rise out of people and most if not all of his accusations are based on putting a spin on most of the posts he reads. Just because we dont look like EQ2 doesnt mean our graphics havent improved.
"Rome wasn't coded in a day"
- Kanoth
It appears as if we will see the same empty promises over and over. What will likely happen is what happened to "Seed." Launch an MMO that's simply not up to today's standards and you won't have any staying power.
I can look back on almost anything anyone said they intended to do a year ago as a lie. KFR didnt say "at release" he said when they are implimented, besides that post is from early 2004, roughly 2 years ago. Best laid plans of mice and men and all that. There's not a good search function on these boards. I'm looking for my post between now and May where I said, "Actually, graphics at release will look alot like what you see in recent screenshots." I think I posted that here, though I'll check the RV forums too. I'll get back with you with a link.
"Rome wasn't coded in a day"
- Kanoth
Ah, found it, it was on the RV boards.
http://www.roma-victor.com/community/bb/viewtopic.php?p=146971#146971
"Rome wasn't coded in a day"
- Kanoth
There is more to mmorpg then graphics.Granted its outdated but its a small team on a limited budget.
DAoC did as money rolled in improve on the graphics.If RB can sort other issues i am sure it will be able to get enough customers to redo the graphics on a later date.
When i got into DAoC it was 2 years behind with its graphics back in 2001.It improved as time went by.
They should forget about the graphics for the time being and focus on the gameplay i think which is in need of work imho.