Pre-CU Server will come in time?

thamathar

I having this question for some days now and i decide to ask u ppl. Will the Pre-CU server if any will come in time ?

Since are planing to make some Sci-Fi MMO ( Start Treck Online, Stargate Worlds ) and i have been traking the Oficial Stargate Worlds forum and they have been asking question about the class , lvl and other stuff and i have been seeying many ppl talk about the old SWG System ( skill point, housing, craft, etc)

Thanks


P.S. Sorry about my bad english

thamathar

Yes i know the Emu :P but will be good enougth ? Im an litle afraid of that since that can be about 100 server of SWGEmu or more ( i think ) and will disperse all the SWG Comunity

Wildcat84

I believe it's inevitable that classic servers will be done.

The emulator is going to shock the world with how well it does, because it's being done for a reason no other MMO emu has ever been created: to bring back a game that no longer exists...

ChokEy

Of course it will disperse the community but i am certain that their will be a few larger servers that are available.  It is all a matter of time, I would just wait and see.

Wildcat84

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Originally posted by ChokEy
Of course it will disperse the community but i am certain that their will be a few larger servers that are available.  It is all a matter of time, I would just wait and see.

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There will initially be far more emu servers than are needed.  The strong will survive.

One of the prominent guilds on Bloodfin plans to run an emu server, I plan to be there.

thamathar

the SWGEmu "dev" should think about this. SWG its beutifull ( classic ) but whit no comunity its not that good

Uberman

Yes, they will come from SOE eventually.  However, given SOE's stunning business acumen, they'll be the last ones to do it, and it'll be in some fashion that will instill even greater distrust and hatred among SOE's customer base.

However, by the time SOE gets around to admitting their mistake, the emulators will be in use, and some other Sci-Fi MMO will exist that recreates the best parts of what SWG once was.  SOE will have missed the train once again, and the executives and engineering staff left on SWG will be flipping burgers and pushing fries at some new McDonald's™ franchise.  The only good thing about that, of course, will be that we can then talk directly to the them, they'll have to listen, and we will finally get exactly what we want from those stupid bastards.

No pickles or onions, please.   

poizenviper

I think smed and company's ego will stop it. Think about it, if they did come out with classic servers and they did better than the live ones, some heads would roll. The only way the head brain farts over at soe will ever be found out is if a classic server does go live, I know about the emu but even that will not draw as many people as an official classic would. So I dont ever see a classic as an option, it would be like smed and boys finally saying you vets got it right.

anywho, just my two cents... PV....

MrArchy

$OE and LEC would be idiots not to do pre-CU servers.  That said, they've already demonstrated they are idiots of the highest order.  I too believe pride and politics will force the Smed and Torres into doing just about anything else.  If they're fired, and soon, there's a chance, but that is unfortunately doubtful (they've survived this long, they can survive anything) and thus I say no.  I wish/hope it is otherwise, but these two are more resilient and far less intellegent than cockroaches.

Wolfjunkie

Doing classic servers would req. alot of devs. Think about it, they'd have to patch 2 games in each their direction - And remembering the quite few bugs pre-CU, they really don't have the manpower to patch 2 games.

thamathar

Yes maby they dont have the man power to do it ... but think in this way. How many money they would win if they make an clasic server ? for me i need to buy again the game. i think they could hire some more DEV just for this server for sure

Rekrul

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Originally posted by Wildcat84
I believe it's inevitable that classic servers will be done.

The emulator is going to shock the world with how well it does, because it's being done for a reason no other MMO emu has ever been created: to bring back a game that no longer exists...

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Um, Ultima Online?

Wildcat84

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Originally posted by Wolfjunkie
Doing classic servers would req. alot of devs. Think about it, they'd have to patch 2 games in each their direction - And remembering the quite few bugs pre-CU, they really don't have the manpower to patch 2 games.

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No one is suggesting they hire a lot of devs for it.  To set them up and run them wouldn't necessarily require ANY devs, just sysadmins and CSR's, which they could share with the NGE game.

Put them live, see where your sub base goes, then allocate your dev resources accordingly.  NGE would lose to pre CU, they know this, which is why they will hold out till the last possible moment to do this.

Scaris

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Originally posted by Wildcat84
I believe it's inevitable that classic servers will be done.The emulator is going to shock the world with how well it does, because it's being done for a reason no other MMO emu has ever been created: to bring back a game that no longer exists...

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Shock the world? Never been done?

pirrg

I doubt it. They would probably scrap the game before going through all that trouble for a pre-cu server.

Wildcat84

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Originally posted by Fadeus


Originally posted by Wildcat84
I believe it's inevitable that classic servers will be done.The emulator is going to shock the world with how well it does, because it's being done for a reason no other MMO emu has ever been created: to bring back a game that no longer exists...

Shock the world? Never been done?

What they are going to be shocked by is how large the pre-CU community is, and more so, how determined we are to make this work, to form up strong community run servers.

SOE has no clue how attatched we are to the original game and that we will stop at nothing to get it done.

Force_choke

I cant wait for the emu

Id even play it if soe released classic servers

Scaris

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Originally posted by Wildcat84

Originally posted by FadeusOriginally posted by Wildcat84I believe it's inevitable that classic servers will be done.The emulator is going to shock the world with how well it does, because it's being done for a reason no other MMO emu has ever been created: to bring back a game that no longer exists...
Shock the world? Never been done?
What they are going to be shocked by is how large the pre-CU community is, and more so, how determined we are to make this work, to form up strong community run servers.SOE has no clue how attatched we are to the original game and that we will stop at nothing to get it done.

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I just love how people revise their statements around here when they get called out on them. Now it's the SWG community and not the world?

There is no "we", there is a few guys making some bashed together server software. Everyone else is sitting and watching.

IcoGames

I'd speculate most of the people that subscribed to SWG left prior to the CU. Imo, implementing pre-CU servers wouldn't resolve anything without addressing the shat ton of issues with that version first.

Uberman

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Originally posted by IcoGames

I'd speculate most of the people that subscribed to SWG left prior to the CU. Imo, implementing pre-CU servers wouldn't resolve anything without addressing the shat ton of issues with that version first.

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I didn't leave Galaxies because of the issues with the pre-CU game.  I left Galaxies because of the CU itself.  I suspect a "shat ton" of other people did as well--more, in fact, than left because of the issues.

Leel

If you read this article - I believe that PRE_CU is just a matter of time.

 Maybe 2 weeks time. Who knows?

http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/everquest/everquest-travels-back-in-time-183447.php

Sony Online has one more card up its sleeve to try and pull reticent Everquest players back in game: they're rebooting the entire world.

Sony Online Entertainment is giving EverQuest players both new and old a chance to experience the largest persistent world as it was in the very beginning by launching two Progression serves: "The Combine" and "The Sleeper". At launch, the Progression servers will consist of the EverQuest zones in Antonica, Faydwer and Odus that were available at launch back in 1999. Players will work together to level and conquer key content that will in turn progressively unlock every expansion released for EverQuest since 1999 up through 2006's Prophecy of Ro.

There's two parts of me. First, there's the largely nostalgic gamer who wants to experience afresh the magic of Everquest and other MMORPGs which I once loved for thousands of hours but have since viewed with cynicism. And then there's the guy who has since played World of Warcraft and recognizes Everquest for the homo habilis of MMORPG gaming it is.

World of Warcraft has single-handedly driven nearly to extinction the entirety of Sony's MMOG empire. Sony's practically giving their MMORPGs away with the Sony Stationpass: Everquest 2, Star Wars Galaxies, Planetside, Everquest, and Matrix Online — all included for a single fee. That's nice for gamers and all, except most of these games are terrible. As for Everquest and Everquest 2, do any other MMORPG games look so old and worn in comparison to World of Warcraft?

This is an interesting move on the part of Sony, because it's essentially a public admission that Everquest can't compete... Everquest's only appeal is now nostalgic. Part of me thinks that this event is pretty cool, but it's also very clearly the death rattle in the throat of the deposed king. There's no shame in that: EQ's had a good, long run, and this is a rather sweet and ingenious way to send the old girl off. Still, we can't wonder if Sony will ever have a truly successful MMORPG (like EQ in its hey day) ever again... they no longer seem to understand the industry they largely created.

jrscott

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Originally posted by pirrg
I doubt it. They would probably scrap the game before going through all that trouble for a pre-cu server.

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All that trouble???  ROFL

tar -xvf \BackupsApril 200514server.tar \SWGClassic001Bin

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xcopy -s \BackupsApril 200514*.* \SWGClassic001

Oh yeah, and "Julio!!  Where did you put the full backup for the SWG Database?"

All that trouble. 

Leel

I'm starting to wonder what the current devs would do with classic servers.  They dont understand to game's original vision.  Maybe that's why it's impossible to rollback.  They would inevitably, not knowing how to manage a game so complex, make the same mistakes again in the pursuit of "Starwarsy" and "Iconic".  The movie 12 Monkeys comes to mind.

Current devs working the original game.

*Shudders at the thought*

Fignar

Your right there will be hundreds of swgemu servers just as WoW has its own emu server  however the question is how many of these will be worth playing on. Only a handfull of these servers will be able to cope with the demands of having a persistant online world with say a minimum of 300 people on line continously at various times. Remember that you could have about 3000 people registered to play on the server but in reality you may only see say about 500 online at one time. So at first you may see people spread across these servers but you will find over time that people end up on the ones which offer the best gaming experience (minimal lag, good support from the game masters and good community).

Fignar

Yup the current devs seem to dispise sandbox style gaming, they also don't understand what the first SWG incarnation was designed to achieve and because of that lack of understanding they simply can't attempt to fix it or enhance it. This is mainly due to Kostners influence gradually dwindling to a point where he is no longer at SOE and because most of the original devs have gone else where. The only choice SOE had to actually do anything with the game with the current slack jawed yokles was to re-design the game from scratch so at least they understand what they are working with and what goals, however pointless they have to work for. So in short its extemely doubtful you will ever see classic servers;  its not a hardware issue, or a matter of if they can and can't do it,  its simply because they don't have the know how to develope pre-cu with the devs they have left working on the game. 

duncan_922

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Originally posted by IcoGames

I'd speculate most of the people that subscribed to SWG left prior to the CU. Imo, implementing pre-CU servers wouldn't resolve anything without addressing the shat ton of issues with that version first.

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This is one of the most asinine comments I've ever read.  Regardless of where you stand on the issue, it's undeniable that SWG was at it's peak prior to the CU and took a nose-dive afterwards.