swgplayers.com

Leel · July 2006

Can anyone find any mention to this sight anywhere before the Press realease. It think it authenticates that the press release is real.

Rekrul · July 2006

swgplayers.com
eqplayers.com
eq2players.com
planetsideplayers.com

It's the community portal. It doesn't authenticate anything, above all not classic servers.

Also, look at registration dates:

Domain Name: SWGPLAYERS.COM
   Registrar: NETWORK SOLUTIONS, LLC.
   Whois Server: whois.networksolutions.com
   Referral URL: http://www.networksolutions.com
   Name Server: NS6.SONYONLINE.NET
   Name Server: NS5.SONYONLINE.NET
   Name Server: NS2.SONYONLINE.NET
   Name Server: NS1.SONYONLINE.NET
   Status: REGISTRAR-LOCK
   EPP Status: clientDeleteProhibited
   EPP Status: clientUpdateProhibited
   EPP Status: clientTransferProhibited
   Updated Date: 05-May-2005
   Creation Date: 05-May-2005
   Expiration Date: 05-May-2007

maxanto · July 2006

Someone should try and bid for that domain name when it comes up lol...

Shayde · July 2006

Doesn't it confirm Sony owns that domain? To me it only backs up the claim.

Leel · July 2006

Search the official forums for the URL - if it had been planned in advance- there should be some mention of it.

Also, any press release including that URL should come up in Google news.

Shayde · July 2006

Originally posted by Leel

Search the official forums for the URL - if it had been planned in advance- there should be some mention of it.
Also, any press release including that URL should come up in Google news.

IT WOULDN'T GOOGLE BECAUSE IT ISN'T AN OFFICIALLY RELEASED PRESS RELEASE.

Dam caps lock.

I don't see why they'd have to have mentioned it earlier either. This could be their new plan.

Leel · July 2006

What I'm saying is if someone had hoaxed the press release, where would they have gotten the the swgplayers portion if it hadn't been mentioned before.

In other words i dont think the Press Release is a Hack job, and i think that Garva is telling a bold-faced lie.

JediGeek · July 2006

Originally posted by Leel

What I'm saying is if someone had hoaxed the press release, where would they have gotten the the swgplayers portion if it hadn't been mentioned before.
In other words i dont think the Press Release is a Hack job, and i think that Garva is telling a bold-faced lie.

It wouldn't be the first time GarVa told outright lies.
Also, I agree that this seems like the first mention of the website, which would give credibility to the whole thing.

pirrg · July 2006

Originally posted by JediGeek

Originally posted by Leel

What I'm saying is if someone had hoaxed the press release, where would they have gotten the the swgplayers portion if it hadn't been mentioned before.
In other words i dont think the Press Release is a Hack job, and i think that Garva is telling a bold-faced lie.

It wouldn't be the first time GarVa told outright lies.
Also, I agree that this seems like the first mention of the website, which would give credibility to the whole thing.

please show me some concrete evidence on other times "garva told outright lies".

Rekrul · July 2006

My guess:

That "classic" in there is their usual double-speak to keep people's hopes up.

This service is already available for all of their other games, they'll be just adding SWG to it. In addition, they'll start charging for it.

Once again, people will jump all over it, saying pre-cu is coming back, etc. And then they'll state that they refer to classic as the baseline version without extensions, and everything is crystal clear. For them at least. Many will once again be yelling how SOE is lying to them.

E-word is where the pre-cu is and will be. As a matter of fact, SOE is counting on it. The hardcore people will go there. They are also the most vocal. And E-word is playing right into SOE, almost as if planned (it's not though). The timing (fall), current release, press, it's mana from heaven for them. Already, the ammount of hate dropped rapidly.

There's a little irony in this. Now, nobody can come on forums, and say I want pre-cu back. Pre-cu is back. It's sucks big-time, and will for quite some time, but it's there.

There's lots of truth in what Smedley said about E-word: "You don't honestly think we're worried about E-word". It's playing right into their hands, since it's difusing community at the best possible moment, during their transition to new centralized online service.

This is also why they will leave it alone, unless some gross misconduct occurs. It'll keep the loudest pre-cu voices out of their community, it costs them nothing, and they lose nothing.

If I were conspiracy theorist, I'd say E-word is SOE's own development. The timing is just too good.

Leel · July 2006

Originally posted by Shayde
Doesn't it confirm Sony owns that domain? To me it only backs up the claim.

Any reply from official circles?

Tiller · July 2006

Originally posted by Shayde

Originally posted by Leel

Search the official forums for the URL - if it had been planned in advance- there should be some mention of it.
Also, any press release including that URL should come up in Google news.

IT WOULDN'T GOOGLE BECAUSE IT ISN'T AN OFFICIALLY RELEASED PRESS RELEASE.

Dam caps lock.

I don't see why they'd have to have mentioned it earlier either. This could be their new plan.

I would be willing to take a guess at this point in the game SWG has received so much press (bad and good) that if they did bring classic online people would sub just to see what was so great about the old game and why we were so passionate about it. Some would stay, others would leave. Either way regardless of the emu and how people feel about soe, the game would most likely thrive for a period of a year or so. Till something else came along again. It would almost reenergize an old game. (tinfoil hat on) Maybe it was Emperor Smed’s master plan all along . Majority of us muppets don't want to flock to an emu and invest months in to a game only to have things like this happen here in a private UO shard.

Leel · July 2006

Thet are talking about Classic Pre-Cu servers - With the Forums Service account.

hipiap · July 2006

Originally posted by Rekrul
My guess:

That "classic" in there is their usual double-speak to keep people's hopes up.

This service is already available for all of their other games, they'll be just adding SWG to it. In addition, they'll start charging for it.

Once again, people will jump all over it, saying pre-cu is coming back, etc. And then they'll state that they refer to classic as the baseline version without extensions, and everything is crystal clear. For them at least. Many will once again be yelling how SOE is lying to them.

E-word is where the pre-cu is and will be. As a matter of fact, SOE is counting on it. The hardcore people will go there. They are also the most vocal. And E-word is playing right into SOE, almost as if planned (it's not though). The timing (fall), current release, press, it's mana from heaven for them. Already, the ammount of hate dropped rapidly.

There's a little irony in this. Now, nobody can come on forums, and say I want pre-cu back. Pre-cu is back. It's sucks big-time, and will for quite some time, but it's there.

There's lots of truth in what Smedley said about E-word: "You don't honestly think we're worried about E-word". It's playing right into their hands, since it's difusing community at the best possible moment, during their transition to new centralized online service.

This is also why they will leave it alone, unless some gross misconduct occurs. It'll keep the loudest pre-cu voices out of their community, it costs them nothing, and they lose nothing.

If I were conspiracy theorist, I'd say E-word is SOE's own development. The timing is just too good.

My guess is that the word "Classic" is their choice for the First Released SW:G....before JTL et al were released.

My theory is that they say classic to mean the version of SWG that had no expansions....not the game as it was coded pre-CU.

They are talking about a software pack that will include all the expansions and the expansion gifts. Not a roll back.

Stop reading between the lines, there is nothing there.

MrArchy · July 2006

Originally posted by hipiap

Originally posted by Rekrul

My guess is that the word "Classic" is their choice for the First Released SW:G....before JTL et al were released.

My theory is that they say classic to mean the version of SWG that had no expansions....not the game as it was coded pre-CU.

They are talking about a software pack that will include all the expansions and the expansion gifts. Not a roll back.

Stop reading between the lines, there is nothing there.

Since ToOW was never coded for pre-CU, only for CU and NGE, it would require the kind of development investment SOE has flatly stated they don't want to engage in, one of the few statements they've made that I believe. Similar for RotW, which came out shortly after the CU. Hence the Classic version will not be a pre-CU version, it simply requires too much development work. The development staff working on SWG has been reduced in the last year or so, hence they lack the resources to even attempt this, especially if they're going to attempt to work on other projects such as the expertise trees, fixing existing bugs, numerous grossly overdue profession revamps (hello smugglers!!!!!!), etc. Classic is politospeak for WhateverVersionWe'reCurrentlyRunningAndForWhichThereAreAlreadyCodedVersionsOfTheExpansions (all Working as intended, of course).

kefkah · July 2006

Classic, Starter Kit, player pack, gold, silver, diamond, titanium...they can call it whatever they want but it still doesn't change the fact that if its NGE based - its recycling garbage to earn or rather squeeze that last drop of money out of the fanbase. It amazes me how far SOE will go to milk this game of every bit of life they can suck out of it. To me its kinda like a patient being put on life support so that you can keep having the body donate blood.

All the rumors, E-Word attempts and so forth ought to show SOE that something is terribly wrong here. ITs plain to see that there is still an audience to be had and it can even be found on this site. Rather then the fabled and mysterious land of WoW players who were going to leave thier game in WoW number droves for a MMORPG that keeps altering the core of its systems. Then again, I think it has been argued before many a time - I think SOE and LA knows already and is just drawing it all out to get the last dollar and to lead into SWG2: The search for more money.

I personally would love to believe that classic meant rollback or incorporation of classic servers but we have fought the SOE advertising spin enemy before and it is a sly and cunning fox. NGE will literally be with the game until they shut the servers down, in my opinion. SOE won't invest any more time or money into the system. The fix bugs mantra they use now is SOE-ese for just let it "exist".

Shayde · July 2006

Originally posted by Leel

Originally posted by Shayde
Doesn't it confirm Sony owns that domain? To me it only backs up the claim.

Any reply from official circles?

Suprisingly... from who normally are quick to respond to my inquiries, not a word.

That, and I'd have expected more official denials than the forum mods. The SAME forum mods who denied the nge days before it was released.

JestorRodo · July 2006

What a load of SOE crap , /golfclap a website to support the game and the current forums and websites were just a bad dream( for me at least). IT"S A TRAP!

JediGeek · July 2006

Originally posted by Shayde

Originally posted by Leel

Originally posted by Shayde
Doesn't it confirm Sony owns that domain? To me it only backs up the claim.

Any reply from official circles?

Suprisingly... from who normally are quick to respond to my inquiries, not a word.

That, and I'd have expected more official denials than the forum mods. The SAME forum mods who denied the nge days before it was released.

That's interesting. Perhaps there will be an announcement next week. Hopefully we'll get more detailed info and explanations then what is in the press release. Could you imagine how much fun the SOE forums would be after this is announced?
So GarVa, Nadias, Virrago, SWGMod001, fanbois... Classic servers will never happen, huh?

MrArchy · July 2006

Originally posted by Shayde

Originally posted by Leel

Originally posted by Shayde
Doesn't it confirm Sony owns that domain? To me it only backs up the claim.

Any reply from official circles?

Suprisingly... from who normally are quick to respond to my inquiries, not a word.

That, and I'd have expected more official denials than the forum mods. The SAME forum mods who denied the nge days before it was released.

I don't think there's any doubt about ownership. What I think we're missing is that this could simply be a case of domain speculation, where companies purchase addys "just in case" they want to use it in the future. The investment is minimal, the practice is wide-spread and used by most internet-savvy companies as I'm sure you all know. Registration alone does not imply any intent to use it.

Shayde · July 2006

Originally posted by MrArchy

Originally posted by Shayde

Originally posted by Leel

Originally posted by Shayde
Doesn't it confirm Sony owns that domain? To me it only backs up the claim.

Any reply from official circles?

Suprisingly... from who normally are quick to respond to my inquiries, not a word.

That, and I'd have expected more official denials than the forum mods. The SAME forum mods who denied the nge days before it was released.

I don't think there's any doubt about ownership. What I think we're missing is that this could simply be a case of domain speculation, where companies purchase addys "just in case" they want to use it in the future. The investment is minimal, the practice is wide-spread and used by most internet-savvy companies as I'm sure you all know. Registration alone does not imply any intent to use it.

No.. but it IS a factual point that helps back up the assertation that it is a legit memo. It is either a fact, or a red herring that helps us believe it is a fact.

feldrin · July 2006

Originally posted by Shayde

Originally posted by MrArchy

Originally posted by Shayde

Originally posted by Leel

Originally posted by Shayde
Doesn't it confirm Sony owns that domain? To me it only backs up the claim.

Any reply from official circles?

Suprisingly... from who normally are quick to respond to my inquiries, not a word.

That, and I'd have expected more official denials than the forum mods. The SAME forum mods who denied the nge days before it was released.

I don't think there's any doubt about ownership. What I think we're missing is that this could simply be a case of domain speculation, where companies purchase addys "just in case" they want to use it in the future. The investment is minimal, the practice is wide-spread and used by most internet-savvy companies as I'm sure you all know. Registration alone does not imply any intent to use it.

No.. but it IS a factual point that helps back up the assertation that it is a legit memo. It is either a fact, or a red herring that helps us believe it is a fact.

with all the rumors that have been tossed around it's difficult to believe anything until it happens. One trhing to think about, unless it has recently been changed, is that LEC is listed as publisher and developer for Star Wars Galaxies complete. In the past SOE was listed as developer and LEC publisher.

blondeh · July 2006

Originally posted by Leel

Search the official forums for the URL - if it had been planned in advance- there should be some mention of it.
Also, any press release including that URL should come up in Google news.

Man there was never ever any mentiont of the NGE on the forums and then one day it was upon us. out of the blue nobody saw it coming

MrArchy · July 2006

Originally posted by feldrin

Originally posted by Shayde

Originally posted by MrArchy

Originally posted by Shayde

Originally posted by Leel

Originally posted by Shayde
Doesn't it confirm Sony owns that domain? To me it only backs up the claim.

Any reply from official circles?

Suprisingly... from who normally are quick to respond to my inquiries, not a word.

That, and I'd have expected more official denials than the forum mods. The SAME forum mods who denied the nge days before it was released.

I don't think there's any doubt about ownership. What I think we're missing is that this could simply be a case of domain speculation, where companies purchase addys "just in case" they want to use it in the future. The investment is minimal, the practice is wide-spread and used by most internet-savvy companies as I'm sure you all know. Registration alone does not imply any intent to use it.

No.. but it IS a factual point that helps back up the assertation that it is a legit memo. It is either a fact, or a red herring that helps us believe it is a fact.

with all the rumors that have been tossed around it's difficult to believe anything until it happens. One trhing to think about, unless it has recently been changed, is that LEC is listed as publisher and developer for Star Wars Galaxies complete. In the past SOE was listed as developer and LEC publisher.

Where did the OP of the press release get it from? I briefly looked and didn't see that mentioned anywhere. I do think there's something suspicious, but I am by nature a skeptic and thus I don't want to draw any further conclusions yet.

LilT · July 2006

Originally posted by MrArchy

Originally posted by feldrin

Originally posted by Shayde

Originally posted by MrArchy

Originally posted by Shayde

Originally posted by Leel

Originally posted by Shayde
Doesn't it confirm Sony owns that domain? To me it only backs up the claim.

Any reply from official circles?

Suprisingly... from who normally are quick to respond to my inquiries, not a word.

That, and I'd have expected more official denials than the forum mods. The SAME forum mods who denied the nge days before it was released.

I don't think there's any doubt about ownership. What I think we're missing is that this could simply be a case of domain speculation, where companies purchase addys "just in case" they want to use it in the future. The investment is minimal, the practice is wide-spread and used by most internet-savvy companies as I'm sure you all know. Registration alone does not imply any intent to use it.

No.. but it IS a factual point that helps back up the assertation that it is a legit memo. It is either a fact, or a red herring that helps us believe it is a fact.

with all the rumors that have been tossed around it's difficult to believe anything until it happens. One trhing to think about, unless it has recently been changed, is that LEC is listed as publisher and developer for Star Wars Galaxies complete. In the past SOE was listed as developer and LEC publisher.

Where did the OP of the press release get it from? I briefly looked and didn't see that mentioned anywhere. I do think there's something suspicious, but I am by nature a skeptic and thus I don't want to draw any further conclusions yet.

He wont post where he got it from.

I think it would shed some light.

And Rekrul, I think your whole soe sponsored "It" is way farfetched. I think they might get into a bit of trouble with LucasArts if they had anything to do with It.

I honestly cannot see them repackaging the nge and all the expansions for christmas and expect people to buy it. If people were going to buy the NGE, they'd done it by now with the starter kit. The ony thing that would be worth selling would be the "original classic" game, its guaranteed to sell.

I dont see anyone signing up for the new forum/web-site idea unless it was pre-cu either. They can barely get people to subscribe to the nge as it is, much less ask them to pay MORE for a new website.

Tiller · July 2006

Originally posted by LilT

He wont post where he got it from. I think it would shed some light.

And Rekrul, I think your whole soe sponsored "It" is way farfetched. I think they might get into a bit of trouble with LucasArts if they had anything to do with It.

I honestly cannot see them repackaging the nge and all the expansions for christmas and expect people to buy it. If people were going to buy the NGE, they'd done it by now with the starter kit. The ony thing that would be worth selling would be the "original classic" game, its guaranteed to sell.

I dont see anyone signing up for the new forum/web-site idea unless it was pre-cu either. They can barely get people to subscribe to the nge as it is, much less ask them to pay MORE for a new website.

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