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caine6621caine6621 Member UncommonPosts: 210
in Roma Victor

I find it extrememly hard to believe a company would limit the amount of people that can purchase a game per day.

I am sure they have their reasons.  I'm sure they might even be good reasons.

But after putting up screen shots.  Giving developers interviews.  Basically doing whatever a company does to generate buzz they turn around and say

"Sorry, you can't purchase this.  You have to wait your turn"

I'm sure other people knew about this.  I guess I just didn't read it before today.  But as far as I'm concerned, that is just a completely idiotic thing for a company to do upon release.

There are only 10 types of people in this world, those that understand binary and those that don't

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  • herculeshercules Member UncommonPosts: 4,925

    its 500 per day and the reason they did this is because they do not want flooding .

    As it is the server has problems with the extra 500 joining the preorders with server laggin behind at times for as much as 10 mins and random disconnections.

    If you are intrested in the game you can buy a key tomorrow or the day after.In total i think they are selling 500 keys for 10 days=5k .

  • HotcellHotcell Member UncommonPosts: 279
    Wow.. I honestly didnt expect the game to be sold out this quick :S
  • daeandordaeandor Member UncommonPosts: 2,695
    Yeah, I didn't expect this much.  I tried to log on when the 500 went on sale today but was unable to connect to r-v.com.  When I could, the keys were sold.  Of course the bad news is that they are "apparently" having trouble with a mere 1k people on the server.  Not a good omen for me if I get in 3-4 days from now and they have 2-4k in game.
  • herculeshercules Member UncommonPosts: 4,925

    Originally posted by Hotcell
    Wow.. I honestly didnt expect the game to be sold out this quick :S

    Actually i expect the whole 5k to sell off easily ,after all there are a lot of mmorpg players out there who wants to try something new and fact that its the only sandbox game to be released in last few years makes it even more attractive.

    They said they are working on fixing the servers .

  • HotcellHotcell Member UncommonPosts: 279

    I admit the features of this game interest me greatly.

    But after reading on how cluncky it is, or how you must do the boring thing in the beginning or how the game lags so badly even with 500 people, my interest dwindled.

    I'm going to wait 1-2 months before deciding to buy this game. You guys keep the good work by posting bugs ;)

  • herculeshercules Member UncommonPosts: 4,925

    Originally posted by Hotcell

    I admit the features of this game interest me greatly.
    But after reading on how cluncky it is, or how you must do the boring thing in the beginning or how the game lags so badly even with 500 people, my interest dwindled.
    I'm going to wait 1-2 months before deciding to buy this game. You guys keep the good work by posting bugs ;)


    Well tbh i would suggest waiting a few months and see how the game gets along but people will always want to see it for themselves espically with fanboys coming here and telling them everything is great and as promised.

    Afterall i did pre order on recommendation of a fanboy who says how great everything was with only "minor hiccups".I got into beta and the days i tried i logged it crashed badly after a little while.Again fanboys said i just had "bad luck".

    come release.Well you know.And yet you have same rabid fanboys trying to convince ppl everything is excellent.

  • ScarisScaris Member UncommonPosts: 5,332

    If I can't buy the product when I want to and play there is no way they would get a dime of mine. Any little interest I did have in RV has quickly gone down the drain with how they have handled their release.

    - Scaris

    "What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World

  • caine6621caine6621 Member UncommonPosts: 210

    Originally posted by Fadeus

    If I can't buy the product when I want to and play there is no way they would get a dime of mine. Any little interest I did have in RV has quickly gone down the drain with how they have handled their release.
    Exactly my point.  There has been some real negative reviews.  But I figured the game was still worth giving a shot.  Mostly due to the fact that there isn't a monthly fee.  But then I find out I can't even buy it. 

    There are only 10 types of people in this world, those that understand binary and those that don't

  • magicalstevemagicalsteve Member Posts: 116

    Fadeus, for heaven's sake wake up.

    RedBedlam are easing players into the servers because they accept their limitations.

    Would you rather they let everyone in, then sit back and watch as the server crashes every minute?

    And furthermore, even if RedBedlam DID handle the release poorly, it's a small price to pay, considering that not only are they a bunch of blokes coding in their spare time, but they're also the first people to do something positive for the MMOG industry since EVE.

    So stop being such a bloody whinger!





    Sorry if I was being overly rude, but you struck a nerve.

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  • ScarisScaris Member UncommonPosts: 5,332

    Originally posted by caine6621

    Originally posted by Fadeus
    If I can't buy the product when I want to and play there is no way they would get a dime of mine. Any little interest I did have in RV has quickly gone down the drain with how they have handled their release.Exactly my point.  There has been some real negative reviews.  But I figured the game was still worth giving a shot.  Mostly due to the fact that there isn't a monthly fee.  But then I find out I can't even buy it. 

    Even if it was worth a shot before once a company tells me I can't buy my copy til tommorrow cause others already bought them all that is end of my interest. I find that unaccept from a game developer and can't support them anymore. Maybe if I was REALLY hyped about the release, but I haven't been that hyped about a game in years.

    - Scaris

    "What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World

  • duncan_922duncan_922 Member Posts: 1,670

    Originally posted by Fadeus

    If I can't buy the product when I want to and play there is no way they would get a dime of mine. Any little interest I did have in RV has quickly gone down the drain with how they have handled their release.
    I can understand your point of view and I agree with it somewhat.  But I'd rather wait until today to get in and know that I can play, than have a release like SWG and not be able to play over the first 2 days because they promised they would do a server load test...  but didn't!

    At least they've shown care in the handling of this game, this has sparked my interest more.

    SOE knows what you like... You don't!
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  • daeandordaeandor Member UncommonPosts: 2,695
    Yeah, I am moderately annoyed at the whole process.  And sadly I don't expect the game to be all that good until much further down the road.
  • elitwebbelitwebb Member Posts: 342
    You also have to remember that there were 2000 pre-orders (I am sure that some of them don't play) on the servers as well.  So I wouldn't get too freaked out and say that 500 ppl break the server.  There is really no difference between being able to buy this game when you want and any other product that is out of stock.  Ever hear of Xbox 360?  Same thing, tons of people couldn't get one when they wanted one.  I am sure that is enough to turn some people off, but it is not the end of the world.  I would much rather them do this slowly, one step at a time, than open the servers to 20,000 and spend two weeks not being able to log in.
  • caine6621caine6621 Member UncommonPosts: 210
    Well now I can see why they limit people. 

    I finally got in today.  Went to start my quests and the NPC can only talk to one person at a time!!!!!!  So you have 10 people standing around trying to get started and they can't!!!!! 

    Lets not even get on the topic of the lag.  They say anything less than 300 is acceptable.  I have seen 8000!!!! 

    Would love to rate this game but I can't even play it.  Although they did get my money so I guess that's all that matters really




    There are only 10 types of people in this world, those that understand binary and those that don't

  • ScarisScaris Member UncommonPosts: 5,332

    Originally posted by caine6621
    Well now I can see why they limit people.  I finally got in today.  Went to start my quests and the NPC can only talk to one person at a time!!!!!!  So you have 10 people standing around trying to get started and they can't!!!!!  Lets not even get on the topic of the lag.  They say anything less than 300 is acceptable.  I have seen 8000!!!!  Would love to rate this game but I can't even play it.  Although they did get my money so I guess that's all that matters really

    it's an MMOG!

    Miniscule-ey Multi-player Online Game...

    - Scaris

    "What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World

  • VirtusVirtus Member Posts: 492

    the lag isn't there issue, it is yours. As they have stated you could live next door to the server but if you have to make 500 jumps before you get there your lag is going ot be huge.

    AS for you Fadeus, your jsut becoming a troll, lots of posts but no useful input.



  • ScarisScaris Member UncommonPosts: 5,332

    Originally posted by Virtus

    the lag isn't there issue, it is yours. As they have stated you could live next door to the server but if you have to make 500 jumps before you get there your lag is going ot be huge.AS for you Fadeus, your jsut becoming a troll, lots of posts but no useful input.

    Your lag statement is a no brainer, but it is that way for every MMO. Roma Victor doesn't hold the market on network hops.

    Troll? Awww, I am crushed. I posted one trollish comment and the rest have been straight up concerns / critisisms. Sorry if you don't like my opinion but that really is your problem, not mine.

    - Scaris

    "What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World

  • VirtusVirtus Member Posts: 492

    Originally posted by Fadeus


    Originally posted by Virtus

    the lag isn't there issue, it is yours. As they have stated you could live next door to the server but if you have to make 500 jumps before you get there your lag is going ot be huge.AS for you Fadeus, your jsut becoming a troll, lots of posts but no useful input.


    Your lag statement is a no brainer, but it is that way for every MMO. Roma Victor doesn't hold the market on network hops.

    Troll? Awww, I am crushed. I posted one trollish comment and the rest have been straight up concerns / critisisms. Sorry if you don't like my opinion but that really is your problem, not mine.

    i was addressing this comment:

    Lets not even get on the topic of the lag.  They say anything less than 300 is acceptable.  I have seen 8000!!!!
    Jusmt making sure everyone realized it was not server or anything to do with the game.

    1 post? I counted at least 6. Your commenting on a game you arn't even playing like you know what your talking about.
  • ScarisScaris Member UncommonPosts: 5,332

    Originally posted by Virtus
    i was addressing this comment: Lets not even get on the topic of the lag.  They say anything less than 300 is acceptable.  I have seen 8000!!!!Jusmt making sure everyone realized it was not server or anything to do with the game.1 post? I counted at least 6. Your commenting on a game you arn't even playing like you know what your talking about.

    I didn't make that comment...

    - Scaris

    "What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World

  • herculeshercules Member UncommonPosts: 4,925

    Originally posted by caine6621
    Well now I can see why they limit people. 

    I finally got in today.  Went to start my quests and the NPC can only talk to one person at a time!!!!!!  So you have 10 people standing around trying to get started and they can't!!!!! 

    Lets not even get on the topic of the lag.  They say anything less than 300 is acceptable.  I have seen 8000!!!! 

    Would love to rate this game but I can't even play it.  Although they did get my money so I guess that's all that matters really



    Hmm seen you post around the RV forums hereso why are you shocked about the one person only talking to npc or the lag?

    I think a few of us repeatedly stated this issues so should be no shocker to you.And thats just your first 2 mins in the game .Attending is coming  and much more !

  • JorevJorev Member Posts: 1,500

    Originally posted by Virtus
    the lag isn't there issue, it is yours. As they have stated you could live next door to the server but if you have to make 500 jumps before you get there your lag is going ot be huge.

    AS for you Fadeus, your jsut becoming a troll, lots of posts but no useful input.

    That's a ridiculous statement, to suggest it isn't their server or network issue.

    Why is it most other games aren't having the same lag and crash problems then?

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  • TymoraTymora Member UncommonPosts: 1,295

    Originally posted by Fadeus


    Originally posted by Virtus

    the lag isn't there issue, it is yours. As they have stated you could live next door to the server but if you have to make 500 jumps before you get there your lag is going ot be huge.AS for you Fadeus, your jsut becoming a troll, lots of posts but no useful input.



    Your lag statement is a no brainer, but it is that way for every MMO. Roma Victor doesn't hold the market on network hops.

    Troll? Awww, I am crushed. I posted one trollish comment and the rest have been straight up concerns / critisisms. Sorry if you don't like my opinion but that really is your problem, not mine.

    Blizzard lets you purchase World of Warcraft anytime you want, but you still had to wait in line to play it when it first launched.  To me, this is the same thing as what's happening with the limited sales per day of Roma Victor, only it's done in a less "intelligent" way, for lack of a better way of putting it.
  • caine6621caine6621 Member UncommonPosts: 210

    Originally posted by Tymora

    Originally posted by Fadeus


    Originally posted by Virtus

    the lag isn't there issue, it is yours. As they have stated you could live next door to the server but if you have to make 500 jumps before you get there your lag is going ot be huge.AS for you Fadeus, your jsut becoming a troll, lots of posts but no useful input.





    Your lag statement is a no brainer, but it is that way for every MMO. Roma Victor doesn't hold the market on network hops.

    Troll? Awww, I am crushed. I posted one trollish comment and the rest have been straight up concerns / critisisms. Sorry if you don't like my opinion but that really is your problem, not mine.

    Blizzard lets you purchase World of Warcraft anytime you want, but you still had to wait in line to play it when it first launched.  To me, this is the same thing as what's happening with the limited sales per day of Roma Victor, only it's done in a less "intelligent" way, for lack of a better way of putting it.
    I consider that to be worse.  At least I had a choice of continuing to wait or not purchase.  Blizzards way took your money and then said you couldn't play.  A few years ago I think AOL got sued for advertising unlimited dial up and then had too many people purchase it that they couldn't serve anyone.  Not positive but I remember something about that.

    There are only 10 types of people in this world, those that understand binary and those that don't

  • ScarisScaris Member UncommonPosts: 5,332

    Originally posted by Tymora

    Originally posted by Fadeus Originally posted by Virtusthe lag isn't there issue, it is yours. As they have stated you could live next door to the server but if you have to make 500 jumps before you get there your lag is going ot be huge.AS for you Fadeus, your jsut becoming a troll, lots of posts but no useful input.
    Your lag statement is a no brainer, but it is that way for every MMO. Roma Victor doesn't hold the market on network hops.
    Troll? Awww, I am crushed. I posted one trollish comment and the rest have been straight up concerns / critisisms. Sorry if you don't like my opinion but that really is your problem, not mine.
    Blizzard lets you purchase World of Warcraft anytime you want, but you still had to wait in line to play it when it first launched.  To me, this is the same thing as what's happening with the limited sales per day of Roma Victor, only it's done in a less "intelligent" way, for lack of a better way of putting it.

    Well lets see on just the US launch Blizzard had to contend with about 600k subs. RV is selling 500 a day and apparently still can't stand up to the task so I really don't think your point is a very strong one.

    Guild Wars is an excellent example, no monthly fee AND no queue and the game released in VERY stable condition.

    - Scaris

    "What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World

  • TymoraTymora Member UncommonPosts: 1,295

    Whether Roma Victor sells 600K or 5K, it doesn't make my point any more or less valid.  Blizzard under estimated, and Redbedlam is being cautious not to over sell and have their servers flooded, which will just make more of a mess.  It is simple, a company will try to estimate the extent of it's services and sell accordingly.

    In this case, Roma Victor is being limited due to the companies resources and I think they are doing the right thing in how they are handling it.  Just because you can't get your cake and eat it too, it doesn't make what they are doing wrong.

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