Only new game that sparks an interest for me

Billius8

And that's because the game design appears firmly rooted in high fantasy elements, no not the jokester PvsP type fantasy elements of other popular games, but the kind that reminds one of that first Dungeons and Dragons game session.

This could turn out to be a good game.

Kuzzle

   Yeah, if only the debate were more lively here. It seems to have died down recently... I'd use the Simutronics forums, but, well, my brain isn't powerful enough to bend time and space in the fashion that would be required to actually navigate them...

   Another two weeks before more info comes out...  If only I lived next door to a cousin of mine that was a GM. But for that I'd need some better cousins. Or, well, at least some more computer literate ones... 'Course, I know them sharing the info would go against the NDA, or whatever, but... I could probably at least get the odd peek...

Lord_Paladin

they're really not THAT bad. You just have to get used to using them. Go read the forums a couple of times, when everything isn't new, it starts to become easier.

That said, the discussions have died down at bit, but I think thats because everyone is slack jawed with anticipation!

The Article they just posted about the Wyr is awesome. But I want to play with the generator, damn it!!!

Once they start releasing more official news and start backing down off of the NDA (end of the year, maybe?) then we should start to see more and more info coming out about it. Right now they're being careful, because the game is still a ways off, and they don't want any of their big idea to be stolen.

RemyVorender

The HJ official forums are the most unnessasarily cumbersome I've ever seen. I just go to hero's hall. Someone please update us all if and when they decide to make their forums more conventional. I'll be sure to check it out then. If there goal is to alienate potential fans of the game they are doing an excellent job though.

HJ-Rowell

There has been talk at the office that a new web forum / bulletin board system is on the way.  Unfortunately, i havent heard when the big swap is going to take place.

Lord_Paladin

I like to think of it as a strategy that simu uses to weed out people that don't have enough patience to try something new. After all, HJ is going to break our standard MMO playing style. You have to be ready to try something new and have the patience to learn it. Now that I understand how those forums work, they don't bother me in the least. They're actually kinda natural.

And I'm a very slow player, I like to take my time and enjoy the journey, so people that like to rush to the end are sorta contradictary to my style

Really though, they're not that hard if you take a minute or two to understand them.

RemyVorender

My mom always said if I have nothing nice to say...

RemyVorender

I'll just say this,

I just don't agree with that logic Paladin. Lack of free time does not equal lack of brain power or patience. To me that just comes off sounding a bit elitist. I just want to jump onto a normal forum for a game I'm looking foward to and be an active member of their community without having to completely relearn how forums work.

On a side note, thanks again for the update HJ-GM. Much appreciated.

WatchMaker

I'm man enough to say that the HJ forums creep me out, but I am willing to give them a try if they really are all that.

Valendros

No, I’ve been browsing and posting on them for upwards of 10 years. They thoroughly, completely, and absolutely are the most gratuitously bass-ackwards forum layout known to mankind. They should have changed to the industry standard years ago, but didn’t because people that play their games typically pride themselves on being unique. They like that their retarded format of forum posting is unreasonably illogical. It’s just what they are.

http://www.play.net/forums/messages.asp?forum=90&category=11&topic=2&message=575

I especially like when he told me that no other system could handle the load the Simu servers can. Allakhazam has 7 games they provide for. For FFXI they have Server Forums, Job Forums, Race Forums... The Server forums themselves in three years of posts have 1,995,732 posts. The Whole Alla site has 9,010,086 posts. The whole Simu site has 1,753,720 posts, and it takes a good 15-30 seconds for it to populate 100 posts (Compared to 5-10 max on alla) and 1/2 the time the posts just don't appear on simu's site. You have to refresh to get them.

I've posted many a-post on how they're retarded, and just get shot down each time. If you want a good time, its post #575 in Sumutronics > Forums Discussions > Comments & Suggestions. See how much BS I have to go through to defend my point and how unwilling they are to change.

Oh and my last post was on 5/1 ish, because that’s when I canceled my account for the 5th time. I keep coming back because I like the game, I keep leaving because of Simutronics attitude toward its players. They give unrealistic timetables (HJ was supposed to come out when? – Monks? Savants? Daemon Summoning?). And they just have the wrong attitude toward suggestions – They poll their current playerbase, the ones that HAVENT left because of their differences with Simu and keep them. Don't get me wrong, I WILL be playing Hero's Journey, but if I leave it won't be for the gameplay or content. It will be for those two attitudes that Simu has taken time and time again.

Lord_Paladin

I was being somewhat sarcastic about the HJ forums being a strategy to keep people with low attention spans out of the game

I've noticed that I'm rapidly becoming one of those people anyways. I'm just to tired to put alot of effort into my hobbies these days. I can't remember the last time I sat down to read a good book on my own

Techleo

 I feel your pain Seriously my memory is falling apart in the last 4 years. I cant realy attribute it to anything but the fact I stopped reading books exactly four years ago. I used to buy at least 2 books a month to read. I wasnt ever very fast but i always read in the evenings. It was my sleep ritual. Eat cookie and milk, read book and fall asleep.. I think i need to go back to those days

eric_w66

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Originally posted by Valendros

No, I’ve been browsing and posting on them for upwards of 10 years. They thoroughly, completely, and absolutely are the most gratuitously bass-ackwards forum layout known to mankind. They should have changed to the industry standard years ago, but didn’t because people that play their games typically pride themselves on being unique. They like that their retarded format of forum posting is unreasonably illogical. It’s just what they are.
http://www.play.net/forums/messages.asp?forum=90&category=11&topic=2&message=575
I especially like when he told me that no other system could handle the load the Simu servers can. Allakhazam has 7 games they provide for. For FFXI they have Server Forums, Job Forums, Race Forums... The Server forums themselves in three years of posts have 1,995,732 posts. The Whole Alla site has 9,010,086 posts. The whole Simu site has 1,753,720 posts, and it takes a good 15-30 seconds for it to populate 100 posts (Compared to 5-10 max on alla) and 1/2 the time the posts just don't appear on simu's site. You have to refresh to get them.
I've posted many a-post on how they're retarded, and just get shot down each time. If you want a good time, its post #575 in Sumutronics > Forums Discussions > Comments & Suggestions. See how much BS I have to go through to defend my point and how unwilling they are to change.
Oh and my last post was on 5/1 ish, because that’s when I canceled my account for the 5th time. I keep coming back because I like the game, I keep leaving because of Simutronics attitude toward its players. They give unrealistic timetables (HJ was supposed to come out when? – Monks? Savants? Daemon Summoning?). And they just have the wrong attitude toward suggestions – They poll their current playerbase, the ones that HAVENT left because of their differences with Simu and keep them. Don't get me wrong, I WILL be playing Hero's Journey, but if I leave it won't be for the gameplay or content. It will be for those two attitudes that Simu has taken time and time again.

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I don't get excited about dates anymore. I don't believe any date posted until the "Gold Master" has been burnt. THEN you know when its coming out. Until then, just pretend you didn't catch the date mentioned, by whoever mentioned it, whether it be EB, Gamestop, Ebay, the Publisher or the Developer. Its just a guess until that gold CD is burnt (or gold DVD now?)

Adreal

I'd use the Simutronics forums, but, well, my brain isn't powerful enough to bend time and space in the fashion that would be required to actually navigate them...

You will learn... One day, my son, you will learn...

Now back to my meditation... [>(-_-)<]

Helsing78

lol, I have to agree the official forums...well, yeah...

But, aside from that, I have to say HJ has got my interest piqued. And this coming from someone who was completley jaded on MMO's after the brain-eating, soul-killing fest that is WoW.

One thing I'm curious about, and I'm sure there's an answer somewhere, but my enfeebled mind can't seem to navigate the official forums well enough, is this:

How much of a role is the actual story going to play in the game?

Is it going to be a dismal attempt at adding "color" to the world like Warcraft? Wher eyou have a solid, well written history and then never bother to even use it, or worse case, slip your own canon the finger whenever you want to introduce something new?

Or is it going to be like a FFXI, where there is a story that drives you through the game. Not like, leading you by the nose driving, but something that gives you a sense of purpose for being there and playing?

As far as dates go, that's one area that Blizzard does seem tob e honest about: "It's done when it's done." Probably a bit more crass than msot would like, but it is at least honest. Release dates are always tenative at best anyways.