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VercadesVercades Member Posts: 1,065

People for what ever reasons in their life hate America because we allow both sides of the world to butt heads in our country.  America is the land of the plenty, much to be seen and in awe of, have you seen the Grand Canyon, the Rocky Mountains and, the Heartland, the Canadian Shield, the Mammoth Caves, Ancient Mayan Ruins, these places are some of the many that make up America.  We never have to worry about not having enough in our country except having too much, if a disaster struck we'd be ready to come and assist the people in need thanks to the trained people of the National Guard, Peace Corp and, Red Cross.

To say, America is filled with evil bigots and, sinister individuals is a bold blank faced lie.  Our countries (That includes, Mexico & Canada) is the birthplace of many genius minds working and, striving to a common good.  Many of these genius' immigrate here to create their things which would normally in a foriegn country be an act against some religious taboo.  We allow people to hate and love America and, not force them to love us is what makes our Countries great.  Even though we may bicker with our nieghbors from time to time it doesn't mean that we're in bad blood, it means we respect each other's differences.

Freedom, America stands for all forms of freedom that many people outside of it despise it, they would rather follow the minds of a self-proclaimed prophet and, obey his every whim without question.  I find it ironic some islamic fundamentalists would come to American and criticize our Freedom and, tell us that we have been corrupted by our government and, say that he can say this because he is protected by our laws, when if he would say the samething in his own country, he would be murdered in one of the most diabolic manners possible.  Just to set an example.

Those American's on this board know that they enjoy their right to chose and, at times they know they've taken advantage of it, not fully realizing how good we really have it off in this entire world.

Man, sometimes I feel like people read these things and copy/paste them to their homework assignments.

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  • britocabritoca Member Posts: 1,484


    Originally posted by Vercades

    Ancient Mayan Ruins


    not in the US, sorry just had to make that clear.

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  • reavoreavo Member Posts: 2,173
    That's old school America you're describing.  The authoritarians are taking over.  I don't like where we're heading.  America ain't too much American any more.




  • XeximaXexima Member UncommonPosts: 2,698

    Mmmm, pie.

  • Nerf09Nerf09 Member CommonPosts: 2,953


    Originally posted by Vercades

    People for what ever reasons in their life hate America because we allow both sides of the world to butt heads in our country.  America is the land of the plenty, much to be seen and in awe of, have you seen the Grand Canyon, the Rocky Mountains and, the Heartland, the Canadian Shield, the Mammoth Caves, Ancient Mayan Ruins, these places are some of the many that make up America.  We never have to worry about not having enough in our country except having too much, if a disaster struck we'd be ready to come and assist the people in need thanks to the trained people of the National Guard, Peace Corp and, Red Cross.
    To say, America is filled with evil bigots and, sinister individuals is a bold blank faced lie.  ...


    Maybe a lie, but the left still believes in the lie.


    Here is the pinnacle of affirmative action, the ultimate goal in the war against Christianity and Whitey:

    And the left says they don't believe in torture, hah!

  • VercadesVercades Member Posts: 1,065


    Originally posted by britoca

    Originally posted by Vercades

    Ancient Mayan Ruins

    not in the US, sorry just had to make that clear.



    Well duh!  That's in Mexico which is part of America.
  • WolfjunkieWolfjunkie Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 985
    I don't hate America. Sure, i sometimes hate what the American goverment does, but that's about it.
    One thing, though: To belive that any country, stands for freedom.. Thats a lie. Freedom, should include.. Gays in the army. Gays having the right to be married. Did your goverment even support Denmark in the Mohammed episode?


  • VercadesVercades Member Posts: 1,065


    Originally posted by Nerf09

    Originally posted by Vercades

    People for what ever reasons in their life hate America because we allow both sides of the world to butt heads in our country.  America is the land of the plenty, much to be seen and in awe of, have you seen the Grand Canyon, the Rocky Mountains and, the Heartland, the Canadian Shield, the Mammoth Caves, Ancient Mayan Ruins, these places are some of the many that make up America.  We never have to worry about not having enough in our country except having too much, if a disaster struck we'd be ready to come and assist the people in need thanks to the trained people of the National Guard, Peace Corp and, Red Cross.
    To say, America is filled with evil bigots and, sinister individuals is a bold blank faced lie.  ...

    Maybe a lie, but the left still believes in the lie.


    Here is the pinnacle of affirmative action, the ultimate goal in the war against Christianity and Whitey:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/1380000/images/_1382540_waco300ap.jpg

    And the left says they don't believe in torture, hah!


    Is that waco?  If so, then I don't know anything about it and, it surely doesn't look like you know anything about it.  Last thing I heard, a man sacrificed himself to delay the explosion and, evacuate as many personel from the building.
  • PhoenixsPhoenixs Member Posts: 2,646
    I don't hate USA. I just don't agree with many of it's political agendas/views.

    Why do people always jump on the hate = all who don't agree, so fast?


  • Nerf09Nerf09 Member CommonPosts: 2,953


    Originally posted by Vercades
    Is that waco?  If so, then I don't know anything about it and, it surely doesn't look like you know anything about it.  Last thing I heard, a man sacrificed himself to delay the explosion and, evacuate as many personel from the building.


    You don't know what you are talking about.  A man didnt sacrifice himself to delay a something something, huh?

    What really happened was an overly zelous Democrat led a federal force of FBI and ATF, tortured, gassed and burned to death a bunch of American Women and Children, on fasle charges.

  • amaskaamaska Member Posts: 5

    I agree with Wolfjunkie, most of the people don't hate America at all, but there are a lot of people who have very good reasons to think that what the government of US does is not acceptable. And then again, it is really unclear what kind of American sentiment u want to invoke, especially as it includes Mexico and Canada... U couldnt have chosen a wider spectrum of different attitudes and values and what not... Why not then include the entire Latin America? It's also called America, if that's the criterion...

    And then... The beauty... Who would contest that??? But u know, in Iraq there is Babylon, also very nice ruins, smth like a cradle of civilization and all that. Some say also that Eden was between Tigris and Euphratus, so in the territory of what is now Iraq... Must be really beautiful...

    All this said, I really have difficulty to grasp what exactly u want to affirm here...............

  • IIRLIIRL Member Posts: 876


    Originally posted by Nerf09

    Originally posted by Vercades

    People for what ever reasons in their life hate America because we allow both sides of the world to butt heads in our country.  America is the land of the plenty, much to be seen and in awe of, have you seen the Grand Canyon, the Rocky Mountains and, the Heartland, the Canadian Shield, the Mammoth Caves, Ancient Mayan Ruins, these places are some of the many that make up America.  We never have to worry about not having enough in our country except having too much, if a disaster struck we'd be ready to come and assist the people in need thanks to the trained people of the National Guard, Peace Corp and, Red Cross.
    To say, America is filled with evil bigots and, sinister individuals is a bold blank faced lie.  ...

    Maybe a lie, but the left still believes in the lie.


    Here is the pinnacle of affirmative action, the ultimate goal in the war against Christianity and Whitey:


    And the left says they don't believe in torture, hah!


    Christianty equals ??

    What? A mentally depraved man who led a cult and threatened with firearms, a man who placed children amongst dangerous believes of disillusion and weapons.

    Is that true religion? If that's what you believe then I feel sorry for you.

    And the stupidity of this left and right bullshit that splits your nation apart seems really naive, but I guess due to it being a young corporation, uhm, I meant nation, it is.

    Politics = $$$
    Human life = $$$

    And lets exploit our natural resources and suck our planet dry while we're at it shall we? I don't blame the US government to be the sole reason for this degeneration.

    I just hope one day that this planet we live on will get rid of this disease called humanity and live on, but I guess we won't go down without it.

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  • VercadesVercades Member Posts: 1,065


    Originally posted by Nerf09

    Originally posted by Vercades
    Is that waco?  If so, then I don't know anything about it and, it surely doesn't look like you know anything about it.  Last thing I heard, a man sacrificed himself to delay the explosion and, evacuate as many personel from the building.


    You don't know what you are talking about.  A man didnt sacrifice himself to delay a something something, huh?

    What really happened was an overly zelous Democrat led a federal force of FBI and ATF, tortured, gassed and burned to death a bunch of American Women and Children, on fasle charges.


    I said it doesn't "look" like you know what you're talking about.  Don't start something without explaining yourself, the image could mean a tangent of things to the public.

    There was some discussion of the compound actually producing a flammable liquid/gas and, a worker in the compound tryed to delay siege explosions, because ATF's, FBI didn't know about explosives inside the compound.  I might have been confusing personel for officers of ATF, FBI while they were inside the compound saw the explosives and, tryed to stop it.

     http://usgovinfo.about.com/blwacoguns.htm

  • Nerf09Nerf09 Member CommonPosts: 2,953


    Originally posted by IIRL
    Christianty equals ??

    What? A mentally depraved man who led a cult true and threatened with firearms Untrue, a man who placed children amongst dangerous believes of disillusion and weapons Untrue.

    Is that true religion? If that's what you believe then I feel sorry for you.

    And the stupidity of this left and right bullshit Untrue that splits your nation apart seems really naive, but I guess due to it being a young corporation, uhm, I meant nation, it is.  True

    Politics = $$$ Untrue
    Human life = $$$ True

    And lets exploit our natural resources True and suck our planet dry Untrue while we're at it shall we? I don't blame the US government to be the sole reason for this degeneration.

    I just hope one day that this planet we live on will get rid of this disease called humanity You're scarry and live on, but I guess we won't go down without it.


    This is what happens when you only know political cliches.
  • Nerf09Nerf09 Member CommonPosts: 2,953


    Originally posted by Vercades

    Originally posted by Nerf09

    Originally posted by Vercades
    Is that waco?  If so, then I don't know anything about it and, it surely doesn't look like you know anything about it.  Last thing I heard, a man sacrificed himself to delay the explosion and, evacuate as many personel from the building.


    You don't know what you are talking about.  A man didnt sacrifice himself to delay a something something, huh?

    What really happened was an overly zelous Democrat led a federal force of FBI and ATF, tortured, gassed and burned to death a bunch of American Women and Children, on fasle charges.


    I said it doesn't "look" like you know what you're talking about.  Don't start something without explaining yourself, the image could mean a tangent of things to the public.

    There was some discussion of the compound actually producing a flammable liquid/gas and, a worker in the compound tryed to delay siege explosions, because ATF's, FBI didn't know about explosives inside the compound.  I might have been confusing personel for officers of ATF, FBI while they were inside the compound saw the explosives and, tryed to stop it.

     http://usgovinfo.about.com/blwacoguns.htm


    CS powder (super-duper tear gas) is highly flammable, and it was pumped into the building at such a high concentration, those inside (including tottlers) went into spazms and broke their own spines.  Then it caught on fire and they burned to death.  Real nice.
  • VercadesVercades Member Posts: 1,065


    Originally posted by amaska

    I agree with Wolfjunkie, most of the people don't hate America at all, but there are a lot of people who have very good reasons to think that what the government of US does is not acceptable. And then again, it is really unclear what kind of American sentiment u want to invoke, especially as it includes Mexico and Canada... U couldnt have chosen a wider spectrum of different attitudes and values and what not... Why not then include the entire Latin America? It's also called America, if that's the criterion...
    And then... The beauty... Who would contest that??? But u know, in Iraq there is Babylon, also very nice ruins, smth like a cradle of civilization and all that. Some say also that Eden was between Tigris and Euphratus, so in the territory of what is now Iraq... Must be really beautiful...
    All this said, I really have difficulty to grasp what exactly u want to affirm here...............


    The world isn't America if it were we'd call it America instead of Earth.  I made the point that when you say America, it doesn't mean that you are talking completely about the U.S.A.

    Affirm actions within America.

    Either the Aztec, Mayan, or, some other ancient indian civilization, discovered electricity.

    Benjamin Franklin rediscovered electricity and harnessed it.

    Thomas Edison, created the light bub.

    Brazilian rainforests contribute to a large portion of the Earth's oxygen supply.

    Not hard to find this information, really.

  • amaskaamaska Member Posts: 5


    Originally posted by Vercades

    Originally posted by amaska

    I agree with Wolfjunkie, most of the people don't hate America at all, but there are a lot of people who have very good reasons to think that what the government of US does is not acceptable. And then again, it is really unclear what kind of American sentiment u want to invoke, especially as it includes Mexico and Canada... U couldnt have chosen a wider spectrum of different attitudes and values and what not... Why not then include the entire Latin America? It's also called America, if that's the criterion...
    And then... The beauty... Who would contest that??? But u know, in Iraq there is Babylon, also very nice ruins, smth like a cradle of civilization and all that. Some say also that Eden was between Tigris and Euphratus, so in the territory of what is now Iraq... Must be really beautiful...
    All this said, I really have difficulty to grasp what exactly u want to affirm here...............

    The world isn't America if it were we'd call it America instead of Earth.  I made the point that when you say America, it doesn't mean that you are talking completely about the U.S.A.

    Affirm actions within America.

    Either the Aztec, Mayan, or, some other ancient indian civilization, discovered electricity.

    Benjamin Franklin rediscovered electricity and harnessed it.

    Thomas Edison, created the light bub.

    Brazilian rainforests contribute to a large portion of the Earth's oxygen supply.

    Not hard to find this information, really.



    Well now u lost me completely. Can u give me a couple of examples of people who hate AMERICA (in ur broad conceptual understanding) for the electricity (which, sorry, but i dunno in what science fiction journals u found, was invented by Indian civilizations, or if it did, how come they did not use it, to electroshock the europeans when they came, for that matter) and for the fact the Brazilian rainforests contribute to earth's oxygen?

    Because i really dont understand what u want to affirm and what windmills r u trying to fight. The US (lets stick to that now) gave the world a lot of inventions. Nobody denies that. It's appreciated. I somehow feel that u miss the point that not agreeing with the policies of the US administration is not equivalent to hating America with all its beauty and achievements. If i were u, i would be proud of those latter, but rather ashamed by the former... So better keep it on that.

  • Nerf09Nerf09 Member CommonPosts: 2,953


    Brazilian rainforests contribute to a large portion of the Earth's oxygen supply.





    This is an urban myth.  The plankton in the ocean is the contributes the largest portion of the Earth's oxygen supply so we can all breath, the Brazilian rainforests don't serve any other purpose then to decrease air pressure by destroying very needed Carbon Dioxide!  ITS EVIL!

  • fizzle322fizzle322 Member Posts: 723
    I don't think anybody hates America.

    Truth is, America has become a United Nations of the world, people from every country come here, build communities, learn how to live peacefully together with others.

    Then each community vie for influence in America, to try to help out their native country.

    Akmed from Pakistan comes to America, back home he hates Jews even though he never met any. He comes to America, learn to drive a cab to support himself, has all kinds of people as passengers, Jews, Chinese, Russians, Africans, Christians, Buddhists, everybody.

    Now people back home talk to Akmed, he has become Americanized and become a "sellout."

    Freedom was meant to be used. Let people say what they want, its healthy.


  • necro666necro666 Member Posts: 151

    hate..no

    but laugh^^

    us army is abunch of chicken..afros and latinos...fat amirican whites cant fight with that overwight

    ok they can bomb and nothing more

    us politics are bs right now

    they torture some prisoners in illegal prisons over the world

    i think usa will die like ussr did...they are the same

  • NecranNecran Member Posts: 309


    Originally posted by Vercades

     Our countries (That includes, Mexico & Canada)


    What the hell are you talking about?
    The rest of the world does not see Canada nearly the same as it does America, we can show our flag proudly in every country on earth and be treated with respect.
    And i can tell you on behalf of all Canadians we'd hate to be called part of America, we're pretty happy with our own country, it's larger, has just as much freedom as anywhere, more nature, free healthcare and many many other things.
    I dont hate American's, dont get me wrong, just a Canadian who would take offence to any country saying we were a part of it.

    We may be on the same continent, and that continent may be made up of North and South America, but what then of Colombia and Guyana, would you also include those in your version of "America"?
    You are the united states of America, meaning you are made up of united states on this continent,
    It doesnt mean you are America and this continent was named after you,
    it was named after the italian cartographer Amerigo Vespucci.

    When people use the term America they arent speaking of every country on this continent, you guys started to call yourselves America, and they're just going on that.

  • Nerf09Nerf09 Member CommonPosts: 2,953


    Originally posted by necro666

    hate..no
    but laugh^^
    us army is abunch of chicken..afros and latinos...fat amirican whites cant fight with that overwight
    ok they can bomb and nothing more
    us politics are bs right now
    they torture some prisoners in illegal prisons over the world
    i think usa will die like ussr did...they are the same


    Liberal Church
                     State
                        
    or

      Exposing Liberal Politics
                  As Religion

    For years now we've all heard Phony Liberal Ministers like Barry Lynn, Jesse Jackson, Timothy McDonald, Al Sharpton, and a whole host of homosexual "clergy" extol the virtues of the public schools and insist that more and more "Government Resources" be spent on improving them.  At the same time they demand that these tax funds be withheld from private schools. Not all privates schools mind you, but religious schools.  And not all religious schools either, but Christian (and even Catholic) schools.  And not all Christian schools either, but White Christian schools in particular. 

    The main argument for their hostile posture is the principle known loosely as "The Separation of Church and State" found (presumably) in the First Amendment to the Constitution.  While it has been generally accepted that religion should not unduly profit from the government, and that the government must not overtly insert any matter of  faith into the law, there's no clear definition of what this "separation" truly is.  Most likely because it doesn't actually exist anywhere outside the sad, broken Liberal mind.       

    Liberals intend that White Christian religion should be driven out of the public arena.  Purged, like bacteria, from public places, from public discourse, and chased away from the public wallet.  I assume that Christians should be barred from public drinking fountains as well.  It's amazing to watch these phony ministers attack Christianity day after day.  There is no good thing ever to come out of the "Religious Right" and no bad thing ever to come out of Liberalism.  What could possibly cause such strange behavior?  Especially from so-called "men of the cloth?"                          

    Well, these people may have gone to some religious schools somewhere, and one or two of them may actually be ministers of a sort (perhaps holding mail order divinity degrees), but THEIR REAL RELIGION IS LIBERALISM, and that's their true cause, not "Jesus."

    To it's proponents and ardent believers, Liberalism is the one true religion, and they will have no other religions before it.  Liberalism is the true course of history, the only system of ethics worth pursuing.  Liberalism is divine, and anyone or anything that opposes it, or just disagrees with it, is PURE EVIL.  Worse than pure evil, they're an enemy to be killed.  Liberal zealotry has the temperament of 8th Century North African Mohammedanism (join us or die, you bastard infidel!).            

    In today's political world, there can be no two more opposing forces than White Christianity and Liberalism.  They're mutually antithetical.  For every good Christian belief, there is a corresponding evil Liberal belief.  Divided by a wall of fire on such topics as abortion, homosexuality, pre-marital sex and promiscuity, personal responsibility, guns, marital fidelity, perjury, racial and gender preference policies in colleges and the job market, honesty, integrity, evolution, and a whole host of other moral convictions, there is not one issue where they do not have the exactly opposite views.  They're like a snake and a mongoose.  But more than natural philosophical enemies, they're political COMPETITORS.                   

    They each want to own and control the culture.  They want our minds, plain and simple.  Their visions of the ideal future world could not be more disparate, yet their goals are identical.  They each want the schools to teach their own world-view and exclude their opponent's.  Who wouldn't?                      

    The Liberal strategy is beautifully devious and effective:  Under the guise of separating "Church and State," Liberals drive their traditional enemy (White Christian morality) out of the schools, leaving Liberalism to fill the void and take up the slack.  "Cultural Morality" becomes the order of the day.  "Social Justice" replaces personal achievement.  And the best part of it is that if the Christians fight back, they're accused of violating the dubious Separation of Church and State Law, then expelled from the venue, and Progressive Liberal Third Way Proportional  Parliamentary MultiPluralism thereby wins by default.  And by this process Liberal Activist Government squashes its true enemy:  traditional religious values.             

    By way of combining images, Liberals preach the teachings of Jesus the Abortionist;  Jesus the Intolerant who drives the Christians out of the schools and other public places; Jesus the Redistributionist who demands money from those who have too much and gives it to those who have too little; Jesus the Multiculturalist who honors all the other gods too; Jesus the Progressive Liberal Fascist who forces his Third Way New World Social Justice views on others while condemning Conservatives and Christians for forcing their views on others; Jesus the Hate-Monger who yells and swings his fist in the air at his perceived enemies  because they're evil and he's "fighting the good fight" against them; Jesus the Hypocrite who forgives Bill Clinton's alleged rapes and attempted rapes, his perjury and cover-up, then condemns Linda Tripp for blowing the whistle on those who wanted her to lie in court on his behalf.  Jesus the African-American who knelt in the blood of Martin Luther King, cursing Whitey.  Jesus the Feminist who has trimmed away his own wiener for the sake of his "sisters in the struggle."  Jesus the Animal who has a right not to be eaten (presumably by the evil enemies of Liberalism); Jesus the angry Ecologist (and Evolutionist);  Jesus the Child who deserves every Enlightened Third Way Village opportunity that the government can create for him; Jesus the Utopian Socialist; Jesus the Eternal Protestor/Agitator/Advocate who never gives up, because America is still EVIL Godammit!! 

    Jesus the Good Atheist. 

    Liberalism is holy.  The forward flow of History is the story of Liberalism.  Liberal Third Way Socialism is the height of human cultural/political power:  Mankind caring for itself, freeing all human spirits to soar among the stars, with no one left behind, except its enemies of course.                   

    Liberalism mimics religion in every single way.  There are saints and martyrs (FDR, JFK, RFK, Martin Luther King), sacraments (Abortion, oral sex with Slick Willie), visionaries and mystics (like Lani Guinier and Cornell West), voluntary luminaries like Julia Roberts, Barbara Streisand, Ralph Nader,  and a high-minded, self righteous certainty that there is no better system of ethics anywhere else on Earth.  They even have a dual-natured Messiah: Bill and Hillary Clinton.  They constantly rattle on about the Noble Spirit of Man (presumably the lower class ethnic victim-man, not the corrupt wealthy upper-class  man), the Heart and Soul of America, the moral propriety (the holiness) of their cause, and how God is on their side.  They preach Liberalism from the exact same pulpit where they deliver their Christmas sermons, pumping and fuming like a cartoon caricature of old-time evangelists.  A left-wing bleeding heart is, at its core, a stigmata.  Every woman who kneels in front of Bill Clinton receives a left-wing Eucharist.  Welfare and food stamps are the Democratic version of the "Loaves and Fishes" miracle.  The ultimate Liberal Utopia is merely a Garden of Eden knockoff.  And just as these phony ministers are the priest class, so then the Feminists are the nuns.           

    If sacraments are supposed to unite us with God, what could be more god-like than deciding which of your children will live and which will die?  Liberal priests and nuns, and through them the whole pantheon of Liberal saints and martyrs, confer on young pregnant women the divine permission and power to destroy the innocent lives they find so annoying and inconvenient.  There is no sin here (except the inconvenience of course), in fact these contraceptive killings are matters of spiritual pride, each one a vainglorious union of the sacred and profane. Women are cleansed of any shame and scorn that might attend a nuisance pregnancy injudiciously brought to term, and lifted into the celestial ranks of those who have made the correct choice.  They achieve a new level of Liberalism, and thereby obtain the admiration of their peers ("Wow, you had an abortion? Way to go, girlfriend!").    

    Make no mistake about it, the Democrats are on a Holy Crusade, all too often hallmarked by their convoluted and hypocritical sense of "inclusion."  The divine tenets of Liberal sociology state clearly that people of every color, race, gender, age, ethnic origin, legal status, sexual preference, physical or mental disability, religious faith or comparable ethical system must hold hands, sing songs, and march triumphantly together into the 21st Century, with no one left behind.  But this noble vision has it's "enemies," those who must NOT be included: hate groups, Corporations, gun owners, profit-takers, white separatists, bigots, Capitalists, Conservatives, White Christians, etc.  These chronic villains must be cleansed from the dream.  No "inclusion" for them, by God!  They're evil!               

    The American Left has been so successful in portraying their political competitors as consummately vile that it's impossible for them to even think of the word "Christian" without mentally seeing a murderous, gun-toting, wife beating, domineering, superstitious right-wing bigot who wants to impose his dangerous archaic religious views on everyone else, enslave blacks, rape women and children, and destroy the earth, all in a "mean-spirited" way.  This "demonizing" of an enemy is a wholly religious behavior.  When we create these abstract psychic images to further our moral ends, we lift our conflicts to a level where zeal and illusion intermingle to produce near cosmic experiences of good and evil, existing only in the realm of religion.                

    And Liberalism is a religion, plain and simple.  A secular humanist/atheist, sociologically and politically corrected creed to be sure, but a genuine religion nonetheless.  A "people's" religion, the worship of an invasive, benign Socially Stalinist Government which creates for us a global utopian village populated by a worldwide herd of sheep and shepherds, all bound by law to respect and appreciate each other's ethnicity, perversions, and entitlements as defined by a Wise International Liberal Proportional Sociological Parliament.  In other words: Liberal Heaven.                    

    Conversely, Liberal Hell is a world where Corporate Capitalist Nazis own the planet, Christian Skinhead Bullies wander the streets killing and raping and eating women, minorities, homosexuals; where children are forced to work in money mines, feeding wealth up to the Economic Overlords who own us all, body and soul.  A grim mechanized Plantation Earth, a celestial victim of ecological and social suicide, all generated by bigotry, competition, and Profit.                                      

    Immersed in a swirl of political angels and demons, Liberals are the Warrior Angels of course.  They're just too dumb (or self-deceptive) to realize that the demons they perceive are of their own manufacture.  Straw devils, built out of their own hate, to absorb the venom of that very hate.  Such is the nature of Good Hate:  Because your enemies are so utterly horrible, your own hatred of them is a good thing!  The intolerance of intolerance is not intolerance!  Bigotry against bigotry is not bigotry!            

    Good Hate is like a drug.  You always feel good.  You're always right.  Your illusions prevail.  You can say and do anything disruptive or antagonistic to "Fight the Good Fight!!" Civil disobedience Okay!!  Kill our enemies!! Ha Ha!! Destroy everything in our path!!            

    The world that the Liberals are out to create doesn't just "resemble" a Third Way Politically Corrected Totalitarian Fascist Church-State, that's exactly what it is.  A planet ruthlessly governed (for its own good, of course) by the amazing rules of self-righteous International Progressive Sociology, where opposition (especially Christianity) is demonized, ostracized, assaulted, and ultimately crushed into oblivion to protect the new Theocratic Golden Age of Liberalism.              

    Intellectually led by such monstrous idiots as David Bonior, Maxine Waters, (What a) Dick Gephardt, Tom Daschle,  Barney Frank, and all their evil hate-mongering acolytes, the great swarm of Liberal faithful run wild across America, pulling down the Corporate pillars of global Free Enterprise, throwing dung on Christian icons, defiling and desecrating Christian Holy Communion by urinating on it then grinding it into the dirt.  Just like the Crusaders of old, just like the Mohammedans of old, they cut their enemies down like wheat, destroying their spiritual competitors.            

    Liberalism is a religion of hate.  See it for what it is.  Call them on it at every turn.  Because if you let them get away with it, they will. 

    http://www.trilobyte-mag.com/churchstate.htm

  • VercadesVercades Member Posts: 1,065


    Originally posted by Necran

    Originally posted by Vercades

     Our countries (That includes, Mexico & Canada)

    What the hell are you talking about?
    The rest of the world does not see Canada nearly the same as it does America, we can show our flag proudly in every country on earth and be treated with respect.
    And i can tell you on behalf of all Canadians we'd hate to be called part of America, we're pretty happy with our own country, it's larger, has just as much freedom as anywhere, more nature, free healthcare and many many other things.
    I dont hate American's, dont get me wrong, just a Canadian who would take offence to any country saying we were a part of it.

    We may be on the same continent, and that continent may be made up of North and South America, but what then of Colombia and Guyana, would you also include those in your version of "America"?
    You are the united states of America, meaning you are made up of united states on this continent,
    It doesnt mean you are America and this continent was named after you,
    it was named after the italian cartographer Amerigo Vespucci.

    When people use the term America they arent speaking of every country on this continent, you guys started to call yourselves America, and they're just going on that.



    Canadian's are American's whether they like it or not, they are American's.  Not US-American's but, American's.  I live in the U.S. I generally would know more about the U.S. then most Canadians, and Canadian's would know more about Canada then a U.S. citizen.

    All the countries on this continent are part of America and they are Americans, I started this thread to discuss Affirm-American Sentiment things that are good.  For some reason others like to point out the bad, differences and, problems more then the good.

    This flag thing is different and, confusing honestly.  I could start a counter flame about it, comparing it to Mac's and PC's but, then we wouldn't really be talking about Affirm things would we?

    Geez, people are just difficult at times.

  • VercadesVercades Member Posts: 1,065


    Originally posted by Nerf09

    Brazilian rainforests contribute to a large portion of the Earth's oxygen supply.




    This is an urban myth.  The plankton in the ocean is the contributes the largest portion of the Earth's oxygen supply so we can all breath, the Brazilian rainforests don't serve any other purpose then to decrease air pressure by destroying very needed Carbon Dioxide!  ITS EVIL!


    The urban myth is it contributes to 1/3 of the Earth's air supply.  It is true that a large portion of the Earth's air is produced in the Rainforest.  Burn down the rainforest and, we'll see how much chaos will insue wild weather patterns, extensive droughts, tons of things.  It's a vital and, good part of the America's.  On a side note, plankton can thrive in freshwater like many parts of the rainforest.

    We're not in a short supply of carbon dioxide, I can assure you.

  • VercadesVercades Member Posts: 1,065


    Originally posted by amaska

    Originally posted by Vercades

    Originally posted by amaska

    I agree with Wolfjunkie, most of the people don't hate America at all, but there are a lot of people who have very good reasons to think that what the government of US does is not acceptable. And then again, it is really unclear what kind of American sentiment u want to invoke, especially as it includes Mexico and Canada... U couldnt have chosen a wider spectrum of different attitudes and values and what not... Why not then include the entire Latin America? It's also called America, if that's the criterion...
    And then... The beauty... Who would contest that??? But u know, in Iraq there is Babylon, also very nice ruins, smth like a cradle of civilization and all that. Some say also that Eden was between Tigris and Euphratus, so in the territory of what is now Iraq... Must be really beautiful...
    All this said, I really have difficulty to grasp what exactly u want to affirm here...............

    The world isn't America if it were we'd call it America instead of Earth.  I made the point that when you say America, it doesn't mean that you are talking completely about the U.S.A.

    Affirm actions within America.

    Either the Aztec, Mayan, or, some other ancient indian civilization, discovered electricity.

    Benjamin Franklin rediscovered electricity and harnessed it.

    Thomas Edison, created the light bub.

    Brazilian rainforests contribute to a large portion of the Earth's oxygen supply.

    Not hard to find this information, really.



    Well now u lost me completely. Can u give me a couple of examples of people who hate AMERICA (in ur broad conceptual understanding) for the electricity (which, sorry, but i dunno in what science fiction journals u found, was invented by Indian civilizations, or if it did, how come they did not use it, to electroshock the europeans when they came, for that matter) and for the fact the Brazilian rainforests contribute to earth's oxygen?

    Because i really dont understand what u want to affirm and what windmills r u trying to fight. The US (lets stick to that now) gave the world a lot of inventions. Nobody denies that. It's appreciated. I somehow feel that u miss the point that not agreeing with the policies of the US administration is not equivalent to hating America with all its beauty and achievements. If i were u, i would be proud of those latter, but rather ashamed by the former... So better keep it on that.


    Can't someone make a peaceful thread trying not to offending anyone, to dispell myths and, discuss things of an "affirm" nature?  I'm not using any urban slang here, or vulgar slang.  If I gave examples of people that HATE America, I wouldn't be discussing Affirm Sentiments.

    No it wasn't some science fiction booklet, I actually watched it on the Discovery Channel, "Mythbusters", they recieved an email discussing the possibility of an ancient civilization creating a low form of electricity, the jury is still out whether the discovery was made in the America's or not.

    Basically they put a bunch of lemon juice into a clay pot, used copper wire to connect all the pots and, a current would surge through, some believe the Arc of the Covenant used this, others think it was used in tribal therapies, many millenia ago.  And, it's fact that the acididity of lemons can create an electric charge.

  • NecranNecran Member Posts: 309


    Originally posted by Vercades

    Originally posted by Necran

    Originally posted by Vercades

     Our countries (That includes, Mexico & Canada)

    What the hell are you talking about?
    The rest of the world does not see Canada nearly the same as it does America, we can show our flag proudly in every country on earth and be treated with respect.
    And i can tell you on behalf of all Canadians we'd hate to be called part of America, we're pretty happy with our own country, it's larger, has just as much freedom as anywhere, more nature, free healthcare and many many other things.
    I dont hate American's, dont get me wrong, just a Canadian who would take offence to any country saying we were a part of it.

    We may be on the same continent, and that continent may be made up of North and South America, but what then of Colombia and Guyana, would you also include those in your version of "America"?
    You are the united states of America, meaning you are made up of united states on this continent,
    It doesnt mean you are America and this continent was named after you,
    it was named after the italian cartographer Amerigo Vespucci.

    When people use the term America they arent speaking of every country on this continent, you guys started to call yourselves America, and they're just going on that.



    Canadian's are American's whether they like it or not, they are American's.  Not US-American's but, American's.  I live in the U.S. I generally would know more about the U.S. then most Canadians, and Canadian's would know more about Canada then a U.S. citizen.

    All the countries on this continent are part of America and they are Americans, I started this thread to discuss Affirm-American Sentiment things that are good.  For some reason others like to point out the bad, differences and, problems more then the good.

    This flag thing is different and, confusing honestly.  I could start a counter flame about it, comparing it to Mac's and PC's but, then we wouldn't really be talking about Affirm things would we?

    Geez, people are just difficult at times.


    the problem with your logic is that only a fool would have one sentiment for this entire continent, because its made up of many different countries, and like i already said, when people refer to America they arent talking about this continent, they are talking about the U.S.A.

    Are you trying to make yourself feel better by thinking when people say they dont like America they arent speaking of the U.S.A directly or something?
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