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  • maxantomaxanto Member Posts: 778


    Originally posted by mystitigger

    You want to know why they deserve respect?
    They've worked very hard on brining the community open source.
    Just because some of you people are out of the loop in terms of knowledge doesn't mean you have the right to flame.


    I see... but it does give them the right to flame us right? You emu devs are nothing but Qu'vatlh
    guy'cha b'aka!
  • JlaneJlane Member Posts: 9


    Originally posted by Spathotan

    Originally posted by Volarian

    Originally posted by Spathotan

    Originally posted by Ultyma

    Someone took a conversation Anzel had completely out of context and it did not happen the way it did.

    The call is/was PRIVATE. And will remain PRIVATE.

    There are no logs.  There are no transcripts. There are no recordings.
    We respect Lucasarts and SOE. They respected us.

    And all you guys seem to do is start flame wars on forums because you think it increases your e-cred.
    It makes me sick that people can't shut up for once.


    How about this.

    How about YOU show US some damn respect huh? Who the hell are you to just pop up here and demand respect from this entire community? Or tell us who/what to respect?

    You "respect Lucasarts and SOE"? How, by taking the code they own and modifiying it and tossing it out to the public? Thats not respect, thats borderline illegal.

    If this little call of yours was so damn private then why didnt you and youre coder buddies keep youre mouths shut in this IRC chat or whatever? Send an email, get on AIM or AOL or MSN, or use a phone. Welcome to the Internet, if you dont take the proper precautions youll get what you deserve.


    Okay, why do they have to respect us?   This isn't SOE getting our money.

    As for LA and SOE code issue that is their issue to deal with, not yours.


    Why should we respect this Ultyma guy or these other emu people and his/hers/their wishes? Same question different words. They let that phone call info leak out because they were careless and non-chalant and we get the bitches end of the deal because of it.

    Okay, why do they have to respect us?   This isn't SOE getting our money.

    As for LA and SOE code issue that is their issue to deal with, not yours.



    Why should we respect this Ultyma guy or these other emu people and his/hers/their wishes? Same question different words. They let that phone call info leak out because they were careless and non-chalant and we get the bitches end of the deal because of it.

    Hey how about you shut the fuck up? Swgemu does the damnest to bring back the game everyone once loved. Thats why they deserve respect. This isn't there JOB they are doing it in there free time for the community not to please asshats like you.
  • SpathotanSpathotan Member Posts: 3,928


    Originally posted by Jlane

    Originally posted by Spathotan

    Originally posted by Volarian

    Originally posted by Spathotan

    Originally posted by Ultyma

    Someone took a conversation Anzel had completely out of context and it did not happen the way it did.

    The call is/was PRIVATE. And will remain PRIVATE.

    There are no logs.  There are no transcripts. There are no recordings.
    We respect Lucasarts and SOE. They respected us.

    And all you guys seem to do is start flame wars on forums because you think it increases your e-cred.
    It makes me sick that people can't shut up for once.


    How about this.

    How about YOU show US some damn respect huh? Who the hell are you to just pop up here and demand respect from this entire community? Or tell us who/what to respect?

    You "respect Lucasarts and SOE"? How, by taking the code they own and modifiying it and tossing it out to the public? Thats not respect, thats borderline illegal.

    If this little call of yours was so damn private then why didnt you and youre coder buddies keep youre mouths shut in this IRC chat or whatever? Send an email, get on AIM or AOL or MSN, or use a phone. Welcome to the Internet, if you dont take the proper precautions youll get what you deserve.


    Okay, why do they have to respect us?   This isn't SOE getting our money.

    As for LA and SOE code issue that is their issue to deal with, not yours.


    Why should we respect this Ultyma guy or these other emu people and his/hers/their wishes? Same question different words. They let that phone call info leak out because they were careless and non-chalant and we get the bitches end of the deal because of it.

    Okay, why do they have to respect us?   This isn't SOE getting our money.

    As for LA and SOE code issue that is their issue to deal with, not yours.



    Why should we respect this Ultyma guy or these other emu people and his/hers/their wishes? Same question different words. They let that phone call info leak out because they were careless and non-chalant and we get the bitches end of the deal because of it.

    Hey how about you shut the fuck up? Swgemu does the damnest to bring back the game everyone once loved. Thats why they deserve respect. This isn't there JOB they are doing it in there free time for the community not to please asshats like you.


    Lol...yes sir. Right after you go to hell.

    "There's no star system Slave I can't reach, and there's no planet I can't find. There's nowhere in the Galaxy for you to run. Might as well give up now."
    — Boba Fett

  • VolarianVolarian Member Posts: 23


    Originally posted by mystitigger

    You want to know why they deserve respect?
    They've worked very hard on brining the community open source.
    Just because some of you people are out of the loop in terms of knowledge doesn't mean you have the right to flame.


    Exactly.

    Let me see who I should respect more someone that is willing to try to bring back Pre-Cu or someone that complains on a forum.

    Seriously, I think the anger is misdirected.   Why you aren't you demanding information about the phonecall from SOE or LA?   Afterall, you either paid them at one point....perhaps they owe you an answer or two.  

    The EMU team owes you nothing.

  • VixenHeartVixenHeart Member Posts: 458


    Originally posted by Volarian

    Originally posted by mystitigger

    You want to know why they deserve respect?
    They've worked very hard on brining the community open source.
    Just because some of you people are out of the loop in terms of knowledge doesn't mean you have the right to flame.

    Exactly.

    Let me see who I should respect more someone that is willing to try to bring back Pre-Cu or someone that complains on a forum.

    Seriously, I think the anger is misdirected.   Why you aren't you demanding information about the phonecall from SOE or LA?   Afterall, you either paid them at one point....perhaps they owe you an answer or two.  

    The EMU team owes you nothing.



    I'm a mother of two, been through a hell of a lot more then most people, but you don't see me demanding respect from ANYONE.

    Get a life you computer losers.

  • VolarianVolarian Member Posts: 23


    Originally posted by VixenHeart

    Originally posted by Volarian

    Originally posted by mystitigger

    You want to know why they deserve respect?
    They've worked very hard on brining the community open source.
    Just because some of you people are out of the loop in terms of knowledge doesn't mean you have the right to flame.

    Exactly.

    Let me see who I should respect more someone that is willing to try to bring back Pre-Cu or someone that complains on a forum.

    Seriously, I think the anger is misdirected.   Why you aren't you demanding information about the phonecall from SOE or LA?   Afterall, you either paid them at one point....perhaps they owe you an answer or two.  

    The EMU team owes you nothing.



    I'm a mother of two, been through a hell of a lot more then most people, but you don't see me demanding respect from ANYONE.

    Get a life you computer losers.


    I am a father of 3, and not involved in any aspect of the EMU other than I loved Pre-Cu.

    What I do know is that the EMU does not deserve to be disrespected because you will never pay them for anything.

    Then again, I say 'thank you' when someone holds a door open for me...and I don't spazz out at someone if they don't give me that courtesy.


  • VixenHeartVixenHeart Member Posts: 458

    Go back to IRC.  Leave this community alone.  I will defend this community, you will defend yours.

    It's the simple fact with any forum.  It's actually gotten to the point where this has turned into a complete waste of time for everyone who's reading this crap.

  • IceZarothIceZaroth Member Posts: 13
    Very good point there and nice enallage
  • mystitiggermystitigger Member Posts: 167

    See, you did that for YOURSELF. I don't bring the matter of me having or not having kids into the conversation, do I?

  • UbermanUberman Member Posts: 340


    Originally posted by Spathotan


    Originally posted by Ultyma

    Someone took a conversation Anzel had completely out of context and it did not happen the way it did.


    The call is/was PRIVATE. And will remain PRIVATE.


    There are no logs.  There are no transcripts. There are no recordings.

    We respect Lucasarts and SOE. They respected us.


    And all you guys seem to do is start flame wars on forums because you think it increases your e-cred.

    It makes me sick that people can't shut up for once.




    How about this.

    How about YOU show US some damn respect huh? Who the hell are you to just pop up here and demand respect from this entire community? Or tell us who/what to respect?

    You "respect Lucasarts and SOE"? How, by taking the code they own and modifiying it and tossing it out to the public? Thats not respect, thats borderline illegal.

    If this little call of yours was so damn private then why didnt you and youre coder buddies keep youre mouths shut in this IRC chat or whatever? Send an email, get on AIM or AOL or MSN, or use a phone. Welcome to the Internet, if you dont take the proper precautions youll get what you deserve.


    Reminds me of a quote from a Star Trek episode:  "It was easier for you, as
    civilized beings, to behave like savages, than for them, as savages, to
    behave like civilized beings."


    I believe Sphathotan has a point.  If you were going to take the time
    to post at all, you could have come in here and at least informed us
    respectfully and professionally about the situation, Ultyma.  But, it's
    not possible to behave like a professional if you're just a teenage
    hacker.  A lot of people are happy with what you've done on the
    emulator (some are a little too happy), but you can't keep acting like
    petulant children behind the wheel of your first car, revving the
    engine, running stop signs, flipping off pedestrians--and expect to
    maintain that respect from those whom you'd want that respect from.


  • XcathdraXcathdra Member CommonPosts: 1,027


    Originally posted by Ultyma

    Someone took a conversation Anzel had completely out of context and it did not happen the way it did.

    The call is/was PRIVATE. And will remain PRIVATE.

    There are no logs.  There are no transcripts. There are no recordings.
    We respect Lucasarts and SOE. They respected us.

    And all you guys seem to do is start flame wars on forums because you think it increases your e-cred.
    It makes me sick that people can't shut up for once.



    Uhm.. yeah... The problem started on your side of things there chief.. Get your house in order beofre coming and yelling at us. Respect is earned, not given, which is a lesson you dont seem to of grasped yet. The leak came from your side.. Go take care of the problem there. To attack everyone / calling them names because one of your inner circle screwed up is just sad...

    By coming here and blaming everyone for your mistake goes to show you share the same quality that SOE has, and thats blame everyone else for your problems..

    Take your effort for the emu and shove it bro.. I dont need it, nor anyone that acts like you running it.

    Having access to a billion $ IP - Billions of dollars..
    Having access to a massive fan base of said IP - Even more Billons...
    Singly handedly alienating them due to stupidity - Priceless.

  • kymekyme Member Posts: 411


    Originally posted by Ultyma

    We have been completely honest with the community.
    We could have remained closed source and underground.
    But we didnt. Make no mistake,

    We are doing this for the community. We all have lives outside of swgemu and we dedicate ALOT of time to the project to make it the best that it can be.
    And when people cant respect some private information the 1 time we ask it, it makes us begin to doubt why were even doing this.
    When I see posts like,
    "SOMEONE SHOULD START AN ECW CHANT,  YOU SOLD OUT, YOU SOLD OUT"
    It makes me want to just quit and not do anything anymore.

    The conversations that we have with Lucasarts and SOE are private and will REMAIN private.
    ANYTHING you hear outside of that statement right there is completely false. We did not leak any transcripts or recordings, we did not tell our friends what happened.
    Like I said, I have respect for Lucasarts and SOE. And you should too.


    Fuck That

    Why keep secrets, do you have something to hide perhaps?

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