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Why do I like WoW better then SWG?
Carbide
Member Posts: 136
Because my crap ass computer can actually run it! See I'm a big fan of PvP but I just can't play with any form of decent framerate in Restuss, or really anywhere for that matter in SWG. The big killer in Restuss is the 40+ npcs running around the city mixed in with the players - all those polys lock down my comp =/
It's too bad because I like SWG PvP much more then WoW pvp because it feels more natural and fluid. You're not contained like in WSG, AB, or AV but tragically WoW is the game that actually runs now-a-days on my comp so it kinda wins by default =/
Anyway, that's my semi-conherent 6am rant. Off to work!
It's too bad because I like SWG PvP much more then WoW pvp because it feels more natural and fluid. You're not contained like in WSG, AB, or AV but tragically WoW is the game that actually runs now-a-days on my comp so it kinda wins by default =/
Anyway, that's my semi-conherent 6am rant. Off to work!
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SWG - 1st Gen MBH (Closed)
EVE (Closed)
WoW (61 Orc Hunter - Blackwing Lair)
GuildWars (Boring...)
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Well thats becuase there has been 2 overhauls of the combat systems which where trew togahter by moneks in a short base of time...........
The game is a mess and it geting worse with each new patch
wows a decent game. i wont even pretend to say its revolutionary or anything but hey, blizzard is coasting by NAILING all the basics soe has never nailed even once on any game theyve ever made.
1) give people tons of content for their subscription money ..... check.... theres prolly more developer provided content in the first 3 zones of any newbie area than there was in all of swg ever.
2) tons of end game content...... check... blizz launched w/ more end game content than swg ever had
3) publish updates that are timely and add story, events, and content. ...... check.... in the last year alone blizz added more new stuff to wow than soe ever game any of its customers for free. end game content, pvp content, casual gamer content.
i miss swg just as much as the next guy, but its because of the community that was there. its never been about any swg system they all had problems. least for me anyway.
wow's just a more professionally made game than any of the amaturesh attempts at game development soe has ever made. people see that kinda quality, and thats why wow makes over a billion a year in subscriptions and soe cant 1/4th that w/ 5 live games.
Games i'm playing right now...
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Of course, marketing drones like pretty pictures and show how nice something looks, but that's also as far as they are capable of comprehending.
To players, only gameplay matters.
To some degree, graphics do attract crowds. But regardless of how good they are, nobody ever said: "I only play because of graphics"
They are means to an end. After a certain degree of quality, the differences become negligible, especially when they tax hardware resources. What was the bloom and heat-shimmer that they added to SWG anyway? Bloom looks cool, especially in the newbie station. But that's also just about the only place where it's used. And I have never managed to figure out where heat shimmer was used.
In the mean time, the abhoration of animations was untouched.
And still, fixing animations didn't change anything, and leaving the broken didn't affect anything. Visuals don't matter, if you want to keep subscribers or get plenty of returning customers.
Games i'm playing right now...
"In short, I thought NGE was a very bad idea" - Raph Koster talking about NGE on his blog at raphkoster.com
I agree graphics don't matter over gameplay, although they can certainly enhance your experience. What I was saying earlier was that WoW seems to use simpler character models then SWG does, so you can probably have alot more WoW characters on screen then you can SWG ones before you start to suffer from FPS lag.
Bloom in SWG is a JTL effect, although it works on ground too. With it on, things that emit light have more of a glow to them as well as many particle effects are more glowy. Heat shimmer is used on Mustafar over the lava. I have to have both turned off though if I want AA turned on (which improves the visuals better then those post processing effects do IMO)
SWG is ccrap.
WoW is crap.
SWG 3 years old. I get lag, rubber banding and bad fps. The grapchics are nto all that great.
WoW runs fine on my pc. No fps lag. no rubber banding. WoW's graphics although cartoony are not bad looking.
If I could have the same fluent gameplay in SWG as I did in WoW it might be more enjoyable. OH and if they made a classic server
SWG with everything cranked up looks great. Unfortunalty I have to put everything on low in game and in the launchpad options if i wish to have a over 20fps. So in my eye the game looks shite compared to WoW. For a 3 year old game its quite stupid.
If you truly believe that right now, today, SWG > WoW, then you are really deluding yourself. Pre-CU, SWG was hands down the winner to me, even with the bugs and glitches and lack of content. Why? Because I prefer skills to levels, I prefer deciding what my toon is all about, rather than being spoonfed content on rails.
Today however, I'm having so much more fun in WoW than in SWG. I hated WoW, but was so bored with SWG I decided to give WoW an honest shot. I didn't get WoW at first, but slowly came to see it for what it is, a very pretty, disney world-ish atmosphere, with tons of people running around, and content up the wazoo. Now I have a level 23 hunter and a level 24 warrior. I don't play the marathon sessions that I used to play pre-CU, but then I only play SWG for 3 minutes at a time these days. My guild is hardly ever on, and I get depressed logging in. I think I need to do something drastic to break my SWG addiction. I think people like me are hanging on to the faint hope that pre-CU will come back, but it's not, not until the ducks get it done. I think what I need to do is delete my level 90 Jedi, both of them, all their stuff, all my toons. That way I don't feel like I have to resub to try this or that.
One last thing, WoW is much much harder than SWG. Log into WoW and try killing something 3 or 4 levels above you solo. You can't unless you get lucky with a couple crits and heal at the right time. You can't as a level 1 noob fighting a level 5 critter, you're assured death. Last night I created a new toon, at level 1 on the noob station, I was tanking purple con critters much higher level than me, no armor, and the shitty 45 dps lance. In WoW, you better be 3 or 4 levels higher than an elite if you want to kill it. In SWG, it's no sweat, you can take out Sher-Kar for fuck's sake, when you're a level 63!
Yeah, I'm fucking pissed off at SOE, and LA. Cocksuckers, all of them.
/logs in to WoW...
more kids play video games then adults
thats why WoW has bigger numbers
all the adults play the better mmo's
Trouble is in swg current state just about any mmo out there beats it hands down.
WOW Does exactly what it ses on the tin. It dosn't try to be something its not. it dons't turf out its playerbase in search of the mythicle new player base. You can load up wow login an know what to expect.
Its not my type of game i found it vey dull. But you know its ten times more profesionaly done the swg.
Its a simple formula but it works.
I like wow better than swg for one reason: "It sucks less."
Shadus
I often times find it hard to express myself in simple sentences. That sentence I just quoted though, is pretty dead on. I'd also add that WoW doesn't act like a slidewhow, it just runs. And it's not my computer, it's pretty new (A64, 1.5gb ram, gf6600 gt)
SWG back in the day was my fave game ever made, besides kotor.
now, i like wow, the end game gets old
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SWG - 1st Gen MBH (Closed)
EVE (Closed)
WoW (61 Orc Hunter - Blackwing Lair)
GuildWars (Boring...)
then those who play mmo's. Average age of an mmo player is 28.
And I do agree that the community is younger until you reach 60. (The
barrens dear god). I dont know too many kids able to do endgame raiding
in serious guilds. It's actually mostly all adults (by that i mean 17+ ). Most kids just run around ganking people on their rogue lol.
Wow isnt tic tac toe, but it aint complex either. It's accessible and quality made, that is why it is so successful. Plus the 9.5 ratings on game sites dont help.
I feel like I always have to defend Wow, because I play it. Im 22 of average intelligence, I get bored of playing it for more than 4 hours, but it is entertaining if you aren't looking to be challenged in an intellectual way. And really, how many mmo's out there are that challenging? And if they are, it's usually at the cost of fun, imo.
So why do i like Wow better than swg? Because it's complete, coherent, thriving, expanding. All of which swg is not.
I also forgot to say that if Wow is successful because it appeals to kids, why isnt the nge successful?
For the Horde!
I don't like WoW and I don't like the NGE. Opinions are like butt holes, but I rather wipe mine then yours
Yes WoW delivered on the MMORPG basics, it's just that I am looking for something more then the MMORPG basics. I'm sure it is wonderful for Warcraft fans new to the Genre, but I am looking for an MMORPG that is trying to create a world and not just a bunch of loot and quests.
I'm not saying there is anything wrong with loot and quests, but they do get boring to me and really fast. What intrests me are player bounties, player driven economies, collecting pets, player cities, purely social content (like cantinas), ect...
I love the Koster philosophy of MMORPG's and maybe I am in the minority, but I never cared about being in the majority in my whole life.
--When you resubscribe to SWG, an 18 yearold Stripper finds Jesus, gives up stripping, and moves with a rolex reverend to Hawaii.
--In MMORPG's l007 is the opiate of the masses.
--The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence!
--CCP could cut off an Eve player's fun bits, and that player would say that it was good CCP did that.
I'm too scared to pick up Ultima. I'm am rather new to MMORPG's compared to the Ultima audience (I started in EQ in 2001) and I would feel like a burden as a new player. Also many Ex-Ultima people give me the notion that the greatest of atrocities has happened to that game.
It really sounds wonderful the way people talk about it, but does that wonder still exist. I'm guessing you say that it does, I'm just nervous. It's like the MMORPG Mecca and I feel unworthy...
--When you resubscribe to SWG, an 18 yearold Stripper finds Jesus, gives up stripping, and moves with a rolex reverend to Hawaii.
--In MMORPG's l007 is the opiate of the masses.
--The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence!
--CCP could cut off an Eve player's fun bits, and that player would say that it was good CCP did that.