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I seriously don't believe that God exists so I naturally concur with the theory of evolution.
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Did you guys ever think back to that your thinking on someone else beleives if you don't beleive? Maybe becuase of Darwin? some noob in the fourms?
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I know that the majority of people alive are religious but I am still intitled to disagree with all of them and I just dont see any benifits our society has had from the influence of organized religion but rather a negetive history. I honestly assume there is no such thing as an all mighty being who knows all and rather that we are products of chance and quantum mechanics and since we have evolved a thinking brain that is self-aware our evolution might alow us to develop into a non-coporial lifeforms but even that would ahve limitations and be eons away. If infact we are the product of creation by a non-coporial entity and our planets DNA was influnced accordingly then even that only means we are little more than an experiment and the scientist in charge is not infinite in wisdom just far more advanced, which to me means not "perfect" and capable of mistakes.
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Good point!
I shoot for the curve... anything above that is gravy.
Organized religion, faith, or belief in a "higher being" has given many people comfort in times of crisis. This is more of an intangible fact and can’t really be measured. It does do some good. I have seen church groups do many good things for their fellow humans. On the other hand we all have seen what religion taken to extreme can do.
My point: I do not care what you believe, just don’t try to convert me to your way of thinking.I shoot for the curve... anything above that is gravy.
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I believe in a God and I concur with the evolutionary theory as well. "Gasp!"
Well randomness isnt really what quantum mechanics is meant to reveal rather the possibilities within time and space, maby its beyond our comprehension but I could see it possible to create something from nothing.
I try to think of what nothing is and then seperate something from it, sounds crazy right lol? Well if you took everthing fathomable and merged it so that it had no singular definition I believe thats what is called nothing and when something is observed and seen to be seperate from the force that theoreticly unifies us all it becomes something. Could nothing be the dormant state of everything not moving through time and space? lol btw I am very high today
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Now, that I'm done being a jerk, I would like to say that there are Christians who believe in evolution. Hell, there are entire sects that believe in it (or at least consider it a possibility). I should know, considering I'm from the South, where I assume religion is considered somewhat more importantly than in other regions of the US. Darwin himself had a background in religion (and would go on to say that he was "agonistic" and never athiest) so it's not entirely impossible. Then again, even though he didn't believe in God in his later life, he still helped out around the church and didn't go around bashing religion. I guess that's far too docile for todays youth. They can't be open-minded or agonistic. They either have to be devotely and utterly religious, or completely athiest. Athiest...TO THE EXTREME!!
I would like to know what the actual point of this thread is, but questions like that are probably just the result of me wallowing in my religious ignorance. It really is bliss you know.
I also think it is possible for both but for some reason most people think it has to be one way or the other.
As far as the evolution side, there seems to be large problem with this being how we came into being. Anyone who has done any research knows that the time it took us to evolve from primates to our current form is simply impossible. Compaired to the time scale it would take for us to naturaly evolve from neanderthals to our current form we litteraly evolved over night. It is know fact that neanderthals and homosapiens walked the earth at the same time and this can only be explained by some type of rapid mutation in the species or someone/something meddled with the natural process genitically or with powers we can not currently comprehend. Plus there are many gaps in the fossil record that would link us to primates (the missing link). This is why the theory of evolution remains just that, a theory.
As for the god side, I think that there is without a doubt a higher intelligence and the more I research it the more I fall inline with the belief of intelligent design. But this in itself leads to problem mainly with the stories in the bible and the discovery of the dead sea scrolls. This is difficult for me to explain and would deserve its own thread to really get into but to put it simply, the god that created us and the God that created everything in the known univers are not the same.
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yeah..religions are for dumb ppl
darwinism isnt perfect too
humanytie is still young
This topic always gets me fired up. Evolution, however good a theory it is, is just a theory. HOWEVER... It is a well known fact that religions of the past were inventions and collections of mythos designed for the purposes of controlling the masses, and explaining the unknown. Current religions are descendants of those of old, and many of them even use the same stories, with slight alterations. For example, compare stories from the bible with early Greek and Roman mythology, the stories are strikingly similar. The difference? One god instead of several, and slight cultural differences.
People back up religion with the argument that it makes better people. But here I ask... Do you REALLY think people only do good things in the world because they are afraid of going to some supernatural oven in the centre of the earth? I should hope not...
Children are very receptive to what they're taught at an early age... This little point is the reason (that I believe) religion has lasted so long with what we know scientifically. If all children were to remain naive to the existance of religion or any supernatural beings until they were say... Ten years old... Would they be so inclined to believe such things? After all, Santa Claus has the same sort of omnipotence as "God" does, yet people stop believing in him around such an age. Why? Because it is common age in society to reveal such truths of Claus' nonexistance.
In this day and age, principles and stories from the bible are being disproved constantly, yet instead of people coming to their senses on this, people simply shrug it off by calling the stories in the bible templates to live moral lives, and that it shouldn't be taken literally... Funny... Before such things were disproved, I'm quite certain they WERE taken literally.
Religion is also undisputedly the #1 cause of death and destruction in the world. Wars tend to be started because of differences in religious beliefs between two nations, and neither can accept that the religion they grew up with isn't the one and only, thus blood is shed "in God's name".
WELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL, I think I've ranted enough for now
evolution isnt a theory..heh
I also think it is possible for both but for some reason most people think it has to be one way or the other.
As far as the evolution side, there seems to be large problem with this being how we came into being. Anyone who has done any research knows that the time it took us to evolve from primates to our current form is simply impossible. Compaired to the time scale it would take for us to naturaly evolve from neanderthals to our current form we litteraly evolved over night. It is know fact that neanderthals and homosapiens walked the earth at the same time and this can only be explained by some type of rapid mutation in the species or someone/something meddled with the natural process genitically or with powers we can not currently comprehend. Plus there are many gaps in the fossil record that would link us to primates (the missing link). This is why the theory of evolution remains just that, a theory.
Humans did not evolve from neanderthals. Rather neanderthals were either a subspecies of humans or a separate species in themselves.
I also think it is possible for both but for some reason most people think it has to be one way or the other.
As far as the evolution side, there seems to be large problem with this being how we came into being. Anyone who has done any research knows that the time it took us to evolve from primates to our current form is simply impossible. Compaired to the time scale it would take for us to naturaly evolve from neanderthals to our current form we litteraly evolved over night. It is know fact that neanderthals and homosapiens walked the earth at the same time and this can only be explained by some type of rapid mutation in the species or someone/something meddled with the natural process genitically or with powers we can not currently comprehend. Plus there are many gaps in the fossil record that would link us to primates (the missing link). This is why the theory of evolution remains just that, a theory.
Humans did not evolve from neanderthals. Rather neanderthals were either a subspecies of humans or a separate species in themselves.
dude neanderthalers were killed by kromanions (cromanions)
the first genocide in history
theory ..but teh neanderthal culture is gone
we have nothing to do with it..or just alil bit
I don't concur to religion though. I think that's a manmade project that has gone absolutely haywire.
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I just want to know why you have "Buddy Christ" as your avatar?
"Cro-Magnon" is a term used to describe an early modern human that lived in what is now known as Europe. As for genocide, that's just one of the possible explanations. Personaly, I don't know how likely that is since humans and neanderthals co-existed for over 6,000 years without any problems. Anyway, another theory is that Neanderthals were absorbed by the human population and there is some evidence to support that (other studies, however contradict these findings). Yet another theory is that neanderthals could not adapt during the Ice Age and simply died out.
So until we create a time machine and go back, pick the one that sounds better to you and go with it, heh.
"Cro-Magnon" is a term used to describe an early modern human that lived in what is now known as Europe. As for genocide, that's just one of the possible explanations. Personaly, I don't know how likely that is since humans and neanderthals co-existed for over 6,000 years without any problems. Anyway, another theory is that Neanderthals were absorbed by the human population and there is some evidence to support that (other studies, however contradict these findings). Yet another theory is that neanderthals could not adapt during the Ice Age and simply died out.
So until we create a time machine and go back, pick the one that sounds better to you and go with it, heh.
look at some archeological sites
it wasnt friendly coexistence
cromagnon wasnt even sexualy compatible with neanderthals
"Cro-Magnon" is a term used to describe an early modern human that lived in what is now known as Europe. As for genocide, that's just one of the possible explanations. Personaly, I don't know how likely that is since humans and neanderthals co-existed for over 6,000 years without any problems. Anyway, another theory is that Neanderthals were absorbed by the human population and there is some evidence to support that (other studies, however contradict these findings). Yet another theory is that neanderthals could not adapt during the Ice Age and simply died out.
So until we create a time machine and go back, pick the one that sounds better to you and go with it, heh.
look at some archeological sites
it wasnt friendly coexistence
cromagnon wasnt even sexualy compatible with neanderthals
Now that is a visual I did not need.
I shoot for the curve... anything above that is gravy.
"Cro-Magnon" is a term used to describe an early modern human that lived in what is now known as Europe. As for genocide, that's just one of the possible explanations. Personaly, I don't know how likely that is since humans and neanderthals co-existed for over 6,000 years without any problems. Anyway, another theory is that Neanderthals were absorbed by the human population and there is some evidence to support that (other studies, however contradict these findings). Yet another theory is that neanderthals could not adapt during the Ice Age and simply died out.
So until we create a time machine and go back, pick the one that sounds better to you and go with it, heh.
look at some archeological sites
it wasnt friendly coexistence
cromagnon wasnt even sexualy compatible with neanderthals
Now that is a visual I did not need.
u dont need cromagnons?
ok be happy with male neanderthals^^
Link to archeological sites please.
Like I said before, genocide is only one possible explanation. hell, it can be a combination of those explanations. Oh and I'm sorry it was 60,000 years. Not 6,000.
As for genetic incompatability, I beg to differ.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/323657.stm