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Tater122
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Well I currently play WoW I am level 51 in it and I have heard from about 100000 people that it lacks alot of end game content and it gets boreing which I beleive because I run the same instances over and over right now I really see no reason wasteing my time getting another 9 levels to run a couple different ones until they get bored. No one really wants to do natural pvp like go to a horde town until some high levels come for us to fight its all about the battle grounds which get really boreing really fast.
So I was wondering if city of villains is anything like that. Is it worth buying how much time would I have to dedicate to leveling around level 30 for each level and is there a solo option in the game or is it all groups. Can you fly and stuff or can you ride something like a vehicle to get around. I was also wondering if pvp was based on the villains v the heroes. Does it require I buy both games? If I am a villain and want to play a hero do I have to pay for a subscription fee for both games, basically what I am asking if they are 2 seperate games if not do you get to fight other players who are the heroes.
Thank You
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-CoH takes a while to level. Some WoW player are kind of impatient compaired to CoH/V players. So can't wait a while to level?(Leveling in CoH is alot more rewarding then WoW though)
-CoH has no end game. It's drawing point is that you don't really grind to get to the acual game. The actual game is the adventures you go threw while leveling.
-It kind of getts repetitive. Alot of the instances are the same old Office Building, Abandoned Off. Building or Swere tilesets.
-CoH doesn't have 'Natural PvP' it only has something similar to WoW's Battlegrounds.
--CoH's PvP zones all have reasons behind them.
---There's Bloody Bay, where you and the other side fight over the remains of a space alien, which will allow you to summon one of them to fight with you.(It almost never has good PvP to it though, just shard milking)
---Siren's Call is the closest thing to natural PvP. You get points from killing other players, which you can trade for rewards(Rewards really aren't that great. They're really hard to get too imo. It's mainly 'You like to PvP? Well we're not going to let you PvP and go completely unrewarded for your time.'
---Warburg. It's free-for-all(which makes no sense). It was a nuclear storage facillity for the Villains(Lord Recluse). Not too many people go there, it might be a cool zone if it was more populated. Going there, you hunt for codes to get your own Nuclear, Biological or uhh, I can't remember the third one missles. Missles are like massive attacks, they're pretty cool.
---Recluse's Victory. I don't know much about this one, the level requirement is 40. I only ever got to my thirties.
There are level restrictions. It won't take long for you to get access to BB or SC though. WB isn't really worth worrying about. RV is a pain to get to imo.
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There are a bunch of free trails out for both CoH and CoV. You should try them out.
-Leveling to thiry isn't really a problem, because you aren't leveling to get anywhere. It's more like an adventure they struggling to get to destination.
-You can solo or group. Grouping will probably make things more entertaining. The community is great, they're my favorite MMO players out of any game. With CoV they added a few features exlusive for guilds: Bases, IoPs, a sort of raid-like feature(only the second in CoH). They're pretty cool, you'll want to be in guild.
-No vehicals yet. It's been something they've wanted to add for forever, but it's hard. Travel powers are a yes: Super-speed, Super-Leaping, Flight(alot of people consider it slow and end consuming. I tryed it once and liked it for what it was though), and teliportation.
-PvP is Heroes vrs Villains, which makes sense. Exept in Warburg, which doesn't make sense anyway.
-No, you don't have to buy both games. CoV is required for acess to Bases though. CoH is basicaly outdated, unless you want acess to the old CoH content(which isn't bad to tell you the truth.)
-If you play a villain and you want to play a hero, all you have to do is buy CoH. They run on the same subscription.
Oh, by the way the up point of CoH are the combate system(which is fun) and the lore(which is way more in depth then WoW). The down point is repetitiveness.
No problem man.
I am a long term WoW player and gave CoV a try a couple of months ago on a two weel trial, so my opinion is based solely on getting a couple of characters to L10-15.
Personally i found that the game had a very good character design feature with plenty of options on looks and powers with a good scope of power branches as you progress through the game. The buff function for your powers works very well with a good drop rate from MOB's as well as being able to purchase from suppliers.
That is the good struff.
On the bad side, the quest/mission side of the game is badly flawed and you rely heavily on it to progress. In most MMO's there is going to be a degree of repetetive'ness, but CoV takes it to the extreme in that there is absolutely no difference in the missions you pick up at L3 compared to the missions at L10 for example. The MOB's, building layouts, objectives etc are all IDENTICAL!
The choice of player design weighs very heavily on how successful you are at completing these missions as well. One example was a mission i picked up at L8 with a Brawler type char that i completed quite easily, yet the exact same mission could not be completed until L11 with a tech style character. In the context of levelling in this game that would be the same as one char at L10 in Wow being able to complete a quest, yet another char not being able to complete it until L17/18, which is one hell of a difference. This makes the whole mission system very unbalanced and difficult to predict your possible success rate, leading to much MOB trawling to level before you can catch up sometimes.
The other problem with the mission system is the randomness of locations, in that you can pick up the same mission with two different characters and one may get it within 50 yards of where he is, where as the other may have to trudge all the way to the other end of the island to complete the same mission for the same amount of experience. Believe me when i say that if you think moving from mission to mission on WoW was a haul, it has nothing on this game.
I cannot speak in any way about later levels in the game, so i will bow to other peoples experience as far as that is concerned, but apart from the fun in creating new chars and seeing how their powers worked i got very bored very fast. Overall, character creation and look very good, Gameplay and longevity very bad.
It must be Thursday, i never could get the hang of Thursdays.
I've been playing CoV for a few weeks now and I'm currently lvl19 but tbh I'm bored of it. The repetitiveness of the game and the lack of depth kills it for me.
The mission instances all look the same. The missions them selves become repetitive: Kill /Rescue /Kidnapp Someone, plant/Activate/Steal Something. And no real variety of mob's.
The lag is bad, I believe the developers are going to try and sort it out tho.
PvP from what i've experienced is non excistent and arena PvP is a waste of time, I've signed up for loads of tournies but because hardly anyone is on line they never get started.
Give CoV a go if you can get a free trial but if you like depth, Variety and PvP look some where else.
The story is NOT that engaging as some will lead you to believe because it affects nothing(read Warcry's recent article on storyline in the CoH/V universe).
Which FF Character Are You?
The game is not the most involved
However it is the ONLY game in MMO market that really has spirit.
It is the only game that has humor and lots of it. Graphic is among the best around and gameplay is fun.
Also the game really forces grouping and still lets you do everything solo aswell - so it is very social aswell.
I wouldnt recomend it to power gamers , if you are one go play L2 or EVE
If you are casual player looking for few hours of fun in a day - CoV might be the game for you
"Before this battle is over all the world will know that few...stood against many." - King Leonidas
the game is fun for a while, but the missions are very repitive, they are either, robbery missions, kidnappings, or boss killing, rinse rather repeat, the pvp is pretty fun in the 30's or so when you dont have to play in bloody bay
"Before this battle is over all the world will know that few...stood against many." - King Leonidas
Dude if you got bored of WoW at level 51, there's no way you'll go past level 38 in CoH. CoH is fun for like 2 months max, mission variety is non-existant, you'll be seeing the same damn cave structure over and over again. There's no enemy variation in CoH, you'll be fighting the same stuff pretty much throughout the entire game. Bosses in CoH pale in comparison to the bosses in WoW.
If you manage to get to level 50, you'll be wondering what else to do. Well other than the alien character you get to make when you level up to 50, there's really nothing else to do. You can run around giving influence (cash in CoH) to newbies, but that's about it. This is CoH's biggest weakeness, it has no end-game and as far as I know they haven't done anything to change this since the last time I played just before CoV came out.
As for WoW, I'd say it has tons more content, and actual endgame content. You can either do battlegrounds (which I hear should be quicker to find battleground games now because they added that cross-server stuff) to get PvP gear or just for fun, or you can do PvE raids to get PvE gear. Also, I hear that in the expansion they are raising the level cap to 70!
Man above is right, I played CoV in beta and retail, and got bored real fast, the char creation is really nice just the leveing is boring. And in WoW i got bored of leveling too, CoV is a real nice group game since most mission you will be in a group if not all. But doing same skills over and over in WoW is way more variaty. In CoV you will be doing lot of the missions again or at least the mission zones will be same but then more difficult monsters.
I wouldn't recommend it if you get bored of WoW before hitting lvl 60
Man above is right, I played CoV in beta and retail, and got bored real fast, the char creation is really nice just the leveing is boring. And in WoW i got bored of leveling too, CoV is a real nice group game since most mission you will be in a group if not all. But doing same skills over and over in WoW is way more variaty. In CoV you will be doing lot of the missions again or at least the mission zones will be same but then more difficult monsters.
I wouldn't recommend it if you get bored of WoW before hitting lvl 60
But than again - I wouldnt recomend you anything -
because honestly there is no "more fun" game than WOW ... we all know that.
COH/COV strenght is in the fact it is very grouping friendly. And there is fun element in gameplay. It is not the best game , hell it is not better than WOW.
But it is surely one of better MMOs out there ... and there is not many good ones
"Before this battle is over all the world will know that few...stood against many." - King Leonidas
WoW by far isn't that fun of a game.........unless you were being sarcastic which i probably missed =.=
ive played just about every mmo p2p and by far the best game ive ever played was EQ.....
wow is fun in the beggining lvls then gets boring later on
CoH got boring by the time i reached lvl 21 with a tech/scrapper
i would recommend u quit both games and start playing EQ2 aahahah
~WTFBBQSAUCEPWND~
Oh cmmon WOW is a fun game and whoever says that it isnt is lying. EQ2 is game totally similar to WOW.
And also fun ( but the graphic is just awful + total sistem HOG)
"Before this battle is over all the world will know that few...stood against many." - King Leonidas
I am a big fan of Superhero, so I still play CoH even after many lvl cap toon. This is the great part about this game, the ppl who plays it dont care if it is repetitive, so when they hit the big 50 they start a new character. So the low lvl area are always full of ppl.
I like this game because I like to log in and find a group right away, there is no crafting nothing, instant action. It is good for casual player, get in a supergroup and you will have friend on all the time.
Make sure you go on Freedom server (most populated server).
There is many hidden things to do in this game that ppl does not know about. When you will discover these things it will change you way of playing to try to get these things.
Get a life you freaking Gamer.....no no, you don't understand, I'm a Gamer, I have many lives!!
~WTFBBQSAUCEPWND~
Just my two bits...
CoH/V has been completely enjoyable for me since I've been playing, and here are some things to consider:
1) Toon creation is EXTREMELY enjoyable and immersive... depending on the level of detail you want at character creation, you could literally spend up to an hour crafting your toon's looks. With each new release, new clothing/appearance traits are offered.
2) Graphics quality is just excellent. Standing in a park, watching the trees gently swing in the breeze and seeing leaves fall for the first time just impressed the heck outta me. Atlas Park (in CoV) and the Mercy island Belltower (in CoV) are just two examples of well-crafted monumental structures. The toons have a high-level of detail, as do the enemies and each gang/villain group you run across are easily identified by gang colors/mode of dress/distinct characteristics. And the powers! Damn, the devs worked overtime to make the superpowers you get look just too cool!
3) The number and quality of missions have been steadily increasing, particularly since CoV rolled out, and while I won't disagree with the others posting here about the problems of repitition, I've actually noticed that it's not quite so bad when you're hanging with a bunch of superheroes/villains. It's common on a team to have different members having some of the same missions, and in CoV you're given the option to either keep the mission in your open mish list, or to accept the final XP and $$$ reward as if you'd done your version of the mish, just without the extra xp and $$$ from the MoBs.
4) The base creation options just keep gettting better and better. It's here that crafting can be done using the salvage you've picked up for different items that are useful, both to you personally and to the base. It's not as comprehensive as some crafting system's I've heard of, but it's certainly not bad, and there are lots and LOTS of stuff you can make!
5) The community has been extremely supportive with lots of very cool people playing. There are the occasional irritants who spam general chat but that stops pretty quickly (these folks get reported to support real fast i've noticed). Groups are real easy to find, and I've had no problems hooking up with fellow heroes or villains.
So, while I don't think it's a perfect game, it has a lot of strengths that aren't immediately noticable. If you sign up for the free trial, log on, and ask around for help and pointers. I think you'll like it!
I just bought CoV a few months ago. I have a 42 Emp Def and a 32 Invul tank in CoH. Started playing CoV but the lag was very aggravating. Not sure if it has been fixed or not, havent logged in for a month. I am sticking with CoH for the time being.
Must be different mechanics in that game to lag like that. I have no lag in CoH. I will give it another chance once that is fixed.
I am running a Radeon X700 w/ 256 mb
Maybe I need to upgrade it
My system is P4 3.00 Ghz with 1 gig of ram
Think its my video card?
You going to be real sorry you left WoW for CoV. You have no idea how good you have there. I have a 60 in WoW. In CoV, I have a 49 brute, 41 stalker, 34 scrapper, etc. Cant believe I wasted all that time!
-CoV has ZERO end game. At least WoW has an end game.
-CoV has limited respecs (like only 3-4). Very easy to ruin your toon. Unlike WoW, you have to pick a primary/secondary set. It's the equivalent of creating a Fire Mage in WoW. Now just imagine you are locked into that tree- Fire Mage. If you want to change to Arcane Mage you have to reroll
-The Developers nerf something with each and every patch. It's very apparent this game was released in a very raw, unfinished state
-All missions are the same. Same bosses, same interior, same, same, same. WoW missions are 10x better than this crap
-PvP is super imbalanced. I can jump on my scrapper and it will take 5+ villains to kill me. Yes, that terrible. If you get someone down to low health, they can just use their travbel power to escape. Too many outs for newbs
-PvP: Hero versus Villain so far out of balance its not funny.
-Takes 10x longer to level in CoV unless you get lucky and find an SG to power level you. However, once you get to cap u will stop playing on that toon anyway
-Everytime people find a fast way to level the Devs will nerf it ASAP. Unlike WoW, they dont wont ppl leveling at a decent rate. I'm not lying. They make MAJOR game changes with each patch.
Avoid City Of Repitition at ALL costs! It sucks badly. I'm going back to WoW.
End-Game: No end-game is better than a wrong end-game we don't want such as raiding or enforced PvP. (actually they enforce raiding in CoH (Hamidon) and RvR in both, and PvP in CoV...these are mistakes, peoples want to group and solo, enforcing these lame end-game that has NOTHING to do with the game are mistakes and must not be done, it hurt the game and the franchise in the long run)
Respec: Agree there should be more respec options, you also gain 1 free respec at each issue.
Respec 2: The primary/secondary is GOOOD! Instead of having 5 class, you have 5X5X5 = 125 classes. this increase gameplays, gaming options, fun, gaming experience, diversity. The next step to your logic is screaming that with a respec you should be able to change class, what is the point to level up a class to 50/60 if you already have one, you should be able to just respec into that high level character anyway since you complete the game. Wanting less is purely despictable for me, in every way.
Nerfs: I agree that they where bad, but WoW isn't very well place nerf-wise. Also the devs have a PvP dream...the game at release was GOOOOOD, it was well balanced, for PvE...too bad they lost that in the process. On a side note, I didn't notice the nerf in I7 and I8 seem nerf-free, they might have learn...
Missions: The stories are differents, numerous and well developped. I take a difference in stories that make me happy, smile and enjoy my gaming experience over a slight variation that mean nothing in a mission as WoW missions are. WoW missions have limited stories that turn out to be pale, extremely pale...and the differences are not that big, kill 20 orcs and the rocks in the dungeons are placed differently... I rather have my CoV missions, with extremely differents stories that make me have a blast and similar mission, so what if the corridors are the same instead of been similar as in WoW? Diversity can be added at a later point and they add a lot since release.
PvP: Maybe, I dunno, I don't like PvP myself. The right villain can kill your scrapper with ease however, alone...but yes, the scrapper are usually good...that doesn't mean you are full proof, you aren't. If you meet unskilled players, that doesn't mean there is nothing to do. But the game was originally developped for PvE, and the PvP lack...yet, for PvE players, it doesn't matter that much. Just to give you an idea, some villains can raise their hold and bypass any protection you have, other villains can SAP your endurance and make all your toggles fade, other villains can nuke the crap out of you...There are various temporary powers you can get in the base, IoP, Hamidon...well, I don't like these, but I got the impression you didn't experience HOs, IoP, the powers from the bases...maybe you didn't even experience accolades...
Leveling: You praise Powerleveling? You don't enjoy the game, there is no point to powerleveling, THIS is the game, you skip it, you have no reason to play it.
Nerfs: Again I agree with you, the devs should improve the game instead of nerfing us...add stuff to earn instead of slowing us down...
Going back to WoW: Close the door while you exit, I want nothing of this "raiding enforcement" nightmare, I hope you enjoy it and make it prosper, but me, myself, I rather bang my head in a wall then play such a poorly thinked end-game, making peoples who actually enjoy the game miserable by trapping them in some lame-end-game. No thanks, you keep WoW!
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