Holy shit, danm lots of geeks on here a man writes what he thinks of the game and i get a English topic.
That
footage i on youtude, i know its from a camara taping. Its the char
models that are all messed up so are the graphic's from the iup.com
downloadable clips. There's a interview tape that shows the casting set
up / party system.
The game is basicly party based without any kind of end game content.
well,
hopefully i did on my english test this time please all don't grade me
again. Failing on a online form's site really hurts
.
lol. maybe i'll take up some forums typing / logic classes. Anyone got
a address to a online english course for proper forums grammer /
structure course.
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Please go and take another english class, then come back and type this post again because we have absolutely no clue what in the hell you just said. You actually made my eyes hurt trying to read your post.
Please go and take another english class, then come back and type this post again because we have absolutely no clue what in the hell you just said. You actually made my eyes hurt trying to read your post.
Allow me to translate. He said he downloaded the game and it is a piece of crap.
EQ1, EQ2, SWG, SWTOR, GW, GW2 CoH, CoV, FFXI, WoW, CO, War,TSW and a slew of free trials and beta tests
Yes, I agree with that translation. That is exactly what he said.
Quite possibly one of the most depressing posts I've ever read. User info states he's 23 and lives in America. I am pretty much in shock.
As Ron White says: "Next time you have a thought ... let it go."
You can't fix stupid.
~ Ancient Membership ~
Meh, maybe he's an exchange student
LOL!! this thread is great....
seriously though, so you downloaded it and decided you didn't like the graphix....but did you actually play the game?
The footage at the link is from E3 2005 (1 year ago) and appears to have been taken with a video camera. I know I expect top notch graphics from alpha quality footage taken on a video camera.
I'm no master of spelling and grammer by any stretch of the imagination, but if you're actually 23 and live in the united states and you graduated from a high school with english as your primary language you should make it a point to see an attorney and consider prosecution against your school.
Sorry everyone, I know it's impolite to feed the trolls, but I couldn't resist.
Shadus
If you have any questions please ask. I have moved on to WoW from eq and no longer have any desire to play a dead game. Thank you. (posted by another selling his account in EQ1)
That footage i on youtude, i know its from a camara taping. Its the char models that are all messed up so are the graphic's from the iup.com downloadable clips. There's a interview tape that shows the casting set up / party system.
The game is basicly party based without any kind of end game content.
well, hopefully i did on my english test this time please all don't grade me again. Failing on a online form's site really hurts . lol. maybe i'll take up some forums typing / logic classes. Anyone got a address to a online english course for proper forums grammer / structure course.
exaggerate much? do millions of people even know of its existence? and since they all know its a "flop", surly the game has been released then....no? then how can a game be a flop before it has even been released?
oh i get it, its a flop because YOU don't like it.....freaking unbelievable.
Case in point:
Folks that say Vanguard is a flop before it's even released = the WoW fanboi express, and your train is departing.
How can you judge what you cannot see, sure one can look at the game play vids and comment on the actual game, in terms of pacing, combat engine, animations / art, etc. How can one say that it lacks end game content when no one knows what the end game encounters will be like, frankly, I fully expect VG to have good encounters… a good end game.
How does vanguard compare to FFXI (SC system?)... I mean really, aside for them being heavily influenced by EQLive but then again, what mmo is not?
Just another poster trying to get attention...
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Ez you read, then you watch the full length gameply movies posted by VIP beta testers. Then you E-Mail them or IM them and you find out about the game. its simaply called exploring / reserch. 90% of all mmo's always include what type of / how the game play takes place. you might want to look into it i said it will hit a lower lvl then FFXI cause another party baseed MMO. The game it self is a basic EQII look alike rip off as i stated in the Hype thread.
1up.com, Youtube.com ( yes i know its poted in horrible state / shape cause it copied / pasted ), E3 movie ( yes i know it was a while ago but the game was being worked in for almost 2 years then ).
Look stuff up, just some they call a serch engine.
Hope my english wasn't too bad on this post.
Your making generalizations. Sorry but like most people on this board, you do not discuss exactly HOW you came to your conclusion. As an mmo junkie I read these forums… and I see far too many posts like these, far to many “this is the way I see it and that’s that” threads.
In an MMOP the level range and the activities that take place during these level ranges are VASTLEY different. Speaking as a lvl75 end game toon in FFXI… I know. The reason I read your sad thread is because I saw “FFXI” in the title, so I come here to take a look… and see… I am rather amused.
So you come here and you say Vanguard is going to be pt dependant, I am sure not to the extent that FFXI is… and I am sure that Vanguard will have far better character class balance in place…because if you were educated you would u I am well aware that VG will have things to do (and plenty) besides… LEVELING.
I am one that has been rather critical of Sigil. But I look at the FACTS; I look at what I SEE. And frankly you (like most of the people on this board) are NOT educated enough on the facts to … well. fukn SPEAK. (I guess I am the communist now…)
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Right on, and man, holy cow 12 days played to 63rd and 10 AA's plus the key to Emp's room just as PoP was released is awesome. Guess you showed these WoW hating nerd boys the truth, EQ1 was a joke. Yea, and all those pet classes were played AFK often, witnessed it over and over again in EQ. Expect the same lack of ability to fix bugs and exploits in Vanguard as they had in EQ.
Course I bash Brad and every project he did for another reason. I love Warriors and he created a Wimptior due to lack of ability to design classes. While Druids quaded, a green could eat me and I was a raider!
As many of the same fanbois here bashed me when I complained how bad the Warrior in EQ stunk, and was told "Warriors just suck due to the nature of the beast", WoW proved them wrong as Warriors are RAAR in WoW. One of the pansies Mages played by a Vanguard fanboi got owned by me every chance I got. Now he bashes WoW because unless he can have an overpowered character that requires no thought to win, he can't beat my Warrior! You play those men in dresses, I like my tank in plate, and not the girly man Brad designs.
Right on, and man, holy cow 12 days played to 63rd and 10 AA's plus the key to Emp's room just as PoP was released is awesome. Guess you showed these WoW hating nerd boys the truth, EQ1 was a joke. Yea, and all those pet classes were played AFK often, witnessed it over and over again in EQ. Expect the same lack of ability to fix bugs and exploits in Vanguard as they had in EQ.
Course I bash Brad and every project he did for another reason. I love Warriors and he created a Wimptior due to lack of ability to design classes. While Druids quaded, a green could eat me and I was a raider!
As many of the same fanbois here bashed me when I complained how bad the Warrior in EQ stunk, and was told "Warriors just suck due to the nature of the beast", WoW proved them wrong as Warriors are RAAR in WoW. One of the pansies Mages played by a Vanguard fanboi got owned by me every chance I got. Now he bashes WoW because unless he can have an overpowered character that requires no thought to win, he can't beat my Warrior! You play those men in dresses, I like my tank in plate, and not the girly man Brad designs.
I didn't like how WoW warriors were set up. They had high DPS and Hgh Defense and compared to many of the other classes, were unbalanced. I've always been of the opinion that there needs to be a give and take between survivability and damage out put.
Right on, and man, holy cow 12 days played to 63rd and 10 AA's plus the key to Emp's room just as PoP was released is awesome. Guess you showed these WoW hating nerd boys the truth, EQ1 was a joke. Yea, and all those pet classes were played AFK often, witnessed it over and over again in EQ. Expect the same lack of ability to fix bugs and exploits in Vanguard as they had in EQ.
Course I bash Brad and every project he did for another reason. I love Warriors and he created a Wimptior due to lack of ability to design classes. While Druids quaded, a green could eat me and I was a raider!
As many of the same fanbois here bashed me when I complained how bad the Warrior in EQ stunk, and was told "Warriors just suck due to the nature of the beast", WoW proved them wrong as Warriors are RAAR in WoW. One of the pansies Mages played by a Vanguard fanboi got owned by me every chance I got. Now he bashes WoW because unless he can have an overpowered character that requires no thought to win, he can't beat my Warrior! You play those men in dresses, I like my tank in plate, and not the girly man Brad designs.
I didn't like how WoW warriors were set up. They had high DPS and Hgh Defense and compared to many of the other classes, were unbalanced. I've always been of the opinion that there needs to be a give and take between survivability and damage out put.
I think i read some place that Vanguard was a PVE centric game... this all goes back to old school DnD... who cares about balance, what matters is if that class is fun and if that class is needed in endgame, i never once thought to myself that a class was not needed in WoW, but i sure know that there are far to many warriors in WoW... that should be EVERY devs goal, to make sure that each class is fun and needed. My thinking should never be "im going to play a caster because there always the best"
I will say this, if Vanguard requires a healer or a support char to progress, if i have to wait an hour for the cleric to logon.. then yea, its a failure.
I am sure the above user seb is an MS warrior... i mean how much thinking does it take to spam MS lol.
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i dunno, rogues are pretty worthless in wow endgame...and yeah i play a rogue as one of my main characters. i agree with most of what you wrote though, each class should be fun and needed.
also in a game where 80% of the content is group-centric, one could assume that support classes are needed to progress (i.e tank,healers,dps,cc) not sure how that is making it a "failure" when the game is designed around grouping.
Your making generalizations. Sorry but like most people on this board, you do not discuss exactly HOW you came to your conclusion. As an mmo junkie I read these forums… and I see far too many posts like these, far to many “this is the way I see it and that’s that” threads.
In an MMOP the level range and the activities that take place during these level ranges are VASTLEY different. Speaking as a lvl75 end game toon in FFXI… I know. The reason I read your sad thread is because I saw “FFXI” in the title, so I come here to take a look… and see… I am rather amused.
So you come here and you say Vanguard is going to be pt dependant, I am sure not to the extent that FFXI is… and I am sure that Vanguard will have far better character class balance in place…because if you were educated you would u I am well aware that VG will have things to do (and plenty) besides… LEVELING.
I am one that has been rather critical of Sigil. But I look at the FACTS; I look at what I SEE. And frankly you (like most of the people on this board) are NOT educated enough on the facts to … well. fukn SPEAK. (I guess I am the communist now…)
IMO, FFXI is the JP translation of EQLive, its what they wanted… right now the only thing in common with ffxi is the chaining system that ffxi uses, allot of people have stolen that from ffxi, like EQ2 but no one has pulled it off as slick as ffxi…
I know as far as the Pen and paper. I'm using that idea to more of an extent instead of *Spell + skill makes this strange skill = The damage* (which is dmg+dmg+special dmg= combo) I'm actually going to teak it in a more... Pleasing way. I also wish to make it into a MMORPG. With the same principles.
Also, I always love reading your posts wyzwun. Always fun with you smack people with facts.
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Erkennst du mich
Ganz tief in meinem Herz
ist noch ein Platz f?r dich
Ich suche dich
Ich sehne mich
nach dem was ich geliebt hab
doch ich find es nicht
true warriors were not good at soloing or pvp in eq, but then again eq wasn't a solo friendly game nor was it pvp-centric. thats funny that now you are on some sort of crusade against brad because he didn't design a character in a video game the way you wanted it, and you call us nerds?
one of the very few things i have to agree with you on, wow warriors are alot better than eq's. although in eq's defense, wow is more of a pvp-centric game than eq and warriors in wow still cant kill as well as some of the other classes while soloing.
and just to get it straight, calling people nerds or any other insult because you like a different computer game than they do is pure comedy......do you not see the irony?
i dunno, rogues are pretty worthless in wow endgame...and yeah i play a rogue as one of my main characters. i agree with most of what you wrote though, each class should be fun and needed.
also in a game where 80% of the content is group-centric, one could assume that support classes are needed to progress (i.e tank,healers,dps,cc) not sure how that is making it a "failure" when the game is designed around grouping.
What I am about to say does not directly apply to vanguard, just want to get that out of the way, I see no reason to make an mmo if you do not avoid the mistakes of the past. Now in regard to my current mmo, ffxi which I can say with complete confidence is more group centric then Vanguard (trust me on this). I feel that, FFXI just accentuated this problem in mmops… so much so to the point were all you see is 2 or 3 classes, running around.
I do not want to invest a year plus into a toon (like I did with my DRK in FFXI) and find out that it’s broken. I don’t want to work on an archetype to find out that it’s not effective or that guilds won’t want it in end game. This is unacceptable.
Im not a fan of WoW (for those who don’t know me) but I will say this, blizzard TRIES (IE Hunter) to balance the classes but were they fail is they don’t pay attention to the “fun” part.
Every class should have utility, I shouldn’t need a certain class to make another class not gimped. Classes that are designed to make up for the design flaws of a game should not exist.
FFXI should be looked at by game makers because A) the game has the worst class balance ive ever seen (see loldrg). Set the standard for how a story should be TOLD in a persistent gaming world.
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