Multiboxing is not cheating, only jackasses think it is. Putting up with evil little twits in EQ that think anyone who doesn't play exactly like they do (with no talent or ability because they can't do something as simple as multibox) is why the game sucks. If EQ doesn't suck break one million active players, you have one month to do so to compare even remotely with WoW which has 8 million! Prove the game doesn't endlessly suck by getting some players . You can't because EQ sucks. Hell I could three box better then 99% of the retards could play one character in EQ, the game was boring and easy as all hell. When they combining servers again? They will have to soon enough because the game has no players due to mismanagement and piss poor game design. Hell even the new servers are empty and SOE and the players left in EQ are none to bright.
I totally agree with ya 100%. the game blows all ass! i left cuz i got sick of the same bullshit content. (and cuz of an ex) but i digress. i give it at the most 7 years to live. and thats stretching it. but there will always be a better MMO that will come out to dethrone the top dog. in eq's case it was WOW and they are still raping eq when it comes to the most ppl. i'm just curious about what game will dethrone wow.
Fuck the world, for all its worth,Every inch of planet earth!
Multiboxing is not cheating, only jackasses think it is.
Or people who merely have a different opinion than you do might think that way. Personally I could care less if people multi-box or not....it's their money.
Putting up with evil little twits in EQ that think anyone who doesn't play exactly like they do...is why the game sucks.
Yet people who don't goose-step to your personal views are somehow "jackasses."
If EQ doesn't suck break one million active players, you have one month to do so to compare even remotely with WoW which has 8 million! Prove the game doesn't endlessly suck by getting some players.
Dude! Proof-read your sentences before hitting "post message."
And why again does this person have one month to get one million people signed up for EQ?
Hell I could three box better then 99% of the retards could play one character in EQ, the game was boring and easy as all hell.
And WoW isn't easy?
Hell even the new servers are empty and SOE and the players left in EQ are none to bright.
Ah yes, the typical intolerant remark from the classic WoW social retard: you must be stupid if you play EQ!
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Originally posted by Krenalor Multiboxing is not cheating, only jackasses think it is. Putting up with evil little twits in EQ that think anyone who doesn't play exactly like they do (with no talent or ability because they can't do something as simple as multibox) is why the game sucks.
Multiboxing is actually cheating. As EverQuest is designed (and was designed) you can only play one character per account at a time. That is the game design. To multibox requires not just multiple computers but multiple accounts. Thus Multiboxing is cheating, you are circumventing the game design to achive some personal goal that you are not able to achieve within the game - with a single account. Either you can't solo something or you are unable to find a group.
Anyone who disagrees with my Gawdlike and all knowing opinion is a jackass. Thats BUNK! My opinion, like your opinion is equal to everyone else's opinion (and smells the same).
EverQuest sucks because someone made fun of you for having to multibox to play? Wait. I thought you said it sucked because it didn't have 15 billion burgers sold? Wait! I thought you said it sucked because the world was so huge and you needed to box a porter to get around - I'm confused.
Face it. Your a WoW fanboi and you hate EQ.
Whereas the majority of the posters IN the EverQuest Forum, are NOT World of WarCraft fanbois.
Merry Chirstmas
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Proof Evercrap sucks is in its pathetic player population numbers, no matter what some jackassed fans here say. Get some players or shut up!
Put a fork in it, Everquest is done, and so are the pathetic few hanging out in this dead game. Difficulty in a game means nothing or I pronounce Diablo 2 Hardcore the winner!
Those halfwits that think Krenalor is a fanboi of WoW just need to read the signatures of the raider haters, WoW sucks too but at least people play, more then loser EQ can say.
Yep, multiboxing is cheating, sitting "lfg" for hours on end in an empty game is sooooo much better, what a stupid statement, no one plays this crap anymore and thats all you will do is "lfg" for houras on end, or worse that stupid raid garbage with lifeless dweebs.
Multiboxing is not cheating, only jackasses think it is. Putting up with evil little twits in EQ that think anyone who doesn't play exactly like they do (with no talent or ability because they can't do something as simple as multibox) is why the game sucks.
Multiboxing is actually cheating. As EverQuest is designed (and was designed) you can only play one character per account at a time. That is the game design. To multibox requires not just multiple computers but multiple accounts. Thus Multiboxing is cheating, you are circumventing the game design to achive some personal goal that you are not able to achieve within the game - with a single account. Either you can't solo something or you are unable to find a group.
Well, monks where not designed to pull, and knights where not designed to outtank a warrior...nor where chanters design to chain stun mobs...and the list goes on. What Brad has in between his ears hardly matter, what matter is what IS. (same reason I don't accept raiding in vanguard, Brad thinks that raiding is A, while it is B, and B is not acceptable to me, and Brad keep answering following the A logic, which is wrong, since what IS; it is not what he thinks, but something much closer to what you can read on FoH forums)
That's been said, I never multibox and never will. However, I hold no harsh feeling toward dual boxers, as long they can play properly. However, after a group or two, they not make it. I am forgiving a lunatic who is playing only 1 toon, but a guy who actually multibox, he has to back it up with skill, if not I won't bear him.
Dual Boxing in EQ is like playing a bard, it is possible, but you better be a hyperactive person. Most dual boxers where unable to maintain the quality playing I request from them. Some where able however, but they could also play a bard. Bottom line, anyone playing a bard to max level would have been good at multiboxing (not multiboxing a bard however hehe). A multi boxer/dual boxer is under a continual stress to perform when they group me, this is why we usually don't group much; yet if they are up to it, they are welcome...yet, it is streineous to never forget anything critical...so multi-boxing may or not be enjoyable, depending on the situation. A multi-boxer is to me a little like a guy working rather than playing...especially that I forgive peoples with only 1 toon, while multi boxers, they are expected to perform top notch. If sense weakness in a multi-boxers performance, he will get a clear and distinct warning, and we will usually part way past that warning, since they rather be lazily enjoying both toons then to actually perform and reach the highest challenges. I WANT to beat FoH to anything conceivable, I will bear noobs even if it mean that I won't beat FoH...but someone multi-boxing? Only if he perform well enough.
Most dual boxers I know left 1 of their toon outside the group when I was around, so they can focus and play their main toon properly and use a little extra help from the outside boxer, in which case, even if their main toon would be slacking, I would be quite forgiving. While we where down 1 member and checking for an extra, we would group his boxed toon a little, which usually make them quite happy! The way EQ was built, we didn't lose much XP by grouping him until a 6th real player come up.
- "If I understand you well, you are telling me until next time. " - Ren
, and knights where not designed to outtank a warrior
They don't anymore. PoP was a million years ago. Things change all the time, despite people whining that things never change... Except, of course, those pesky people who claim that the game has changed TOO MUCH.
As far as the rest of the screaming on this thread, you can't please all the people all the time. Some people really do enjoy spicy food. Is spicy food bad just because you don't like it? No, it means you shouldn't eat spicy food. Some people really do like EQ, and telling them it sucks won't make them not enjoy it. Get over it.
... This is where I draw the line: __________________.
I love the jackasses here that call multiboxing "cheating" the official rules, and the only ones that matter are it is legal. There are cheaters though who use third party programs to play the second character and here are some rules for that:
1. Macroing is allowed as long as you are at the PC? yes / no - not really. The game offers limited ways to macro using hot keys that you can continually hit over and over again.
2. is 3rd party software allowed? yes / no
3. if answer to question 1 is YES, but a 3rd party software is used / needed for it, is it still allowed? yes / no
4. is there a way WITHOUT 3rd party software to autofollow mobs? yes / no
5. is there a way to autorun in a circle / triangle / whatever without a 3rd party programm? yes / no - not that I know of but possibly
6. is there a way to face a mob automatically while running (alternate way to "autofollow kinda i guess), without the use of 3rd party software? yes / no
If you think you know someone who is doing something they shouldn't then please petition on your server so a GM can investigate it.
Message Edited by Kytherea on 02-06-2006 11:20 AM
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"We're off to bash the {insert character class here}"
I never used third party programs!
Heck some of the same jackasses think camps are legal, and play nice covers that. I used to love getting people suspended/banned for their BS about that. I also reported people buying/selling accounts/items but that went nowhere because both Verant/SOE refused to investigate. I wanted characters out of the game when the primary player quit so new players had to earn their way into raid guilds, not buy them. Every major raid guild is filled with bought characters at this time and nothing is being done about it.
I primarily boxed because of the teenage morons in the game who couldn't play worth a crap with a single character. Several times I would three box an encounter when a full group failed due to the piss poor play of these teenagers.
I also boxed with a character outside guild groups to add DPS as was listed, my Warrior then became a Tank/DPS character. This pisses off the babies playing casters, who played on easy mode for the most part. If Warriors weren't meant for DPS then every game since EQ was wrong. No; it is you that are wrong jackass, and thats why Brad is correcting that error in Vanguard and even EQ went that route to a large degree.
Many foolish teenagers post here like they know the official rules, they know jack and shit. I played since 1999 and they are n00bs.
I stand by my statement that EQ can prove its quality by getting players, that is an objective goal that can be shown and proves the games quality. The babies don't like having to prove anything, WoW hit one million+ players in a month, I again call on EQ to match it.
EQ is a crappy game to start new, beginning players should not bother.
As for screening my posts for errors, piss off! I will do as I please little tyrant, another reason to box, avoid jackasses like that ingame!
A lot of what I post is sarcastic humor, just ignore the silliness and dig out the official information. Yes EQ is a fun game, but not well set-up to join as a new player. You are way behind the power curve and player population is terrible.
As for liking WoW, I multiboxed EQ, you think I can like a game with less challenge then single box EQ? I do respect WoWs player numbers and its high quality, but it isn't for me.
Originally posted by Odenathus Face it. Your a WoW fanboi and you hate EQ.
Whereas the majority of the posters IN the EverQuest Forum, are NOT World of WarCraft fanbois.
I was mistaken. I admit it. I went and read all of Krenalors posts. Krenalor is not a WoW fanboi. Krenalor just seems to post alot of posts that are negative.
Just a note; I've never expressed (to my knowledge) an opinion on how people play EQ. What I've done is identify they way people play.
Originally posted by neschria you can't please all the people all the time. Some people really do enjoy spicy food. Is spicy food bad just because you don't like it? No, it means you shouldn't eat spicy food. Some people really do like EQ, and telling them it sucks won't make them not enjoy it. Get over it.
and I think that actually covers it - says it all, right there
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It's not dead, but it has developed Asthma over time and as a consequence, can't run and play with the other kids in the MMO playground like it used too. And the new kids take it's lunch money and even it's younger brother knows it's hovering near the Zapper.
It is nostalgic though to start it up(wait the forever amount of time for the patches to catch up from however many months I have been away) and roam freely through most zones. I was surprised a while back to see the change to Freeport. It was actually then, that I realized it was heading for the grave. They made a graphical update and might as well spent the time developeing more quests or fixing the annoyance bugs. It felt like I was in the story "The Little Engine That Could" and the little guy was trying to climb that hill but just wasn't getting any traction. Go EQ1, you can do it, I know you can, I beleive in you!!!! while muttering under my breath, just hurry up and die already, geez!
You've heard it ALL before. Right at about the Planes of Power expansion, the EverQuest we had all had grown to love took a giant irreversible dump. The game was dumbed down, and honestly between SoE crankin out expansions like crazy and over-doing the loot, all sense of community was destroyed and truthfully, IMO, EQ is now like any other MMO. It lost it's magic touch if you will.
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Anyone who disagrees with my Gawdlike and all knowing opinion is a jackass. Thats BUNK! My opinion, like your opinion is equal to everyone else's opinion (and smells the same).
EverQuest sucks because someone made fun of you for having to multibox to play? Wait. I thought you said it sucked because it didn't have 15 billion burgers sold? Wait! I thought you said it sucked because the world was so huge and you needed to box a porter to get around - I'm confused.
Face it. Your a WoW fanboi and you hate EQ.
Whereas the majority of the posters IN the EverQuest Forum, are NOT World of WarCraft fanbois.
Merry Chirstmas
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My dog barks some. Mentally you picture my dog, but I have not told you the type of dog which I have. Perhaps you even picture Toto, from "The Wizard of Oz." But I warn you, my dog is always with me.
Proof Evercrap sucks is in its pathetic player population numbers, no matter what some jackassed fans here say. Get some players or shut up!
Put a fork in it, Everquest is done, and so are the pathetic few hanging out in this dead game. Difficulty in a game means nothing or I pronounce Diablo 2 Hardcore the winner!
Those halfwits that think Krenalor is a fanboi of WoW just need to read the signatures of the raider haters, WoW sucks too but at least people play, more then loser EQ can say.
Yep, multiboxing is cheating, sitting "lfg" for hours on end in an empty game is sooooo much better, what a stupid statement, no one plays this crap anymore and thats all you will do is "lfg" for houras on end, or worse that stupid raid garbage with lifeless dweebs.
Well, monks where not designed to pull, and knights where not designed to outtank a warrior...nor where chanters design to chain stun mobs...and the list goes on. What Brad has in between his ears hardly matter, what matter is what IS. (same reason I don't accept raiding in vanguard, Brad thinks that raiding is A, while it is B, and B is not acceptable to me, and Brad keep answering following the A logic, which is wrong, since what IS; it is not what he thinks, but something much closer to what you can read on FoH forums)
That's been said, I never multibox and never will. However, I hold no harsh feeling toward dual boxers, as long they can play properly. However, after a group or two, they not make it. I am forgiving a lunatic who is playing only 1 toon, but a guy who actually multibox, he has to back it up with skill, if not I won't bear him.
Dual Boxing in EQ is like playing a bard, it is possible, but you better be a hyperactive person. Most dual boxers where unable to maintain the quality playing I request from them. Some where able however, but they could also play a bard. Bottom line, anyone playing a bard to max level would have been good at multiboxing (not multiboxing a bard however hehe). A multi boxer/dual boxer is under a continual stress to perform when they group me, this is why we usually don't group much; yet if they are up to it, they are welcome...yet, it is streineous to never forget anything critical...so multi-boxing may or not be enjoyable, depending on the situation. A multi-boxer is to me a little like a guy working rather than playing...especially that I forgive peoples with only 1 toon, while multi boxers, they are expected to perform top notch. If sense weakness in a multi-boxers performance, he will get a clear and distinct warning, and we will usually part way past that warning, since they rather be lazily enjoying both toons then to actually perform and reach the highest challenges. I WANT to beat FoH to anything conceivable, I will bear noobs even if it mean that I won't beat FoH...but someone multi-boxing? Only if he perform well enough.
Most dual boxers I know left 1 of their toon outside the group when I was around, so they can focus and play their main toon properly and use a little extra help from the outside boxer, in which case, even if their main toon would be slacking, I would be quite forgiving. While we where down 1 member and checking for an extra, we would group his boxed toon a little, which usually make them quite happy! The way EQ was built, we didn't lose much XP by grouping him until a 6th real player come up.
- "If I understand you well, you are telling me until next time. " - Ren
They don't anymore. PoP was a million years ago. Things change all the time, despite people whining that things never change... Except, of course, those pesky people who claim that the game has changed TOO MUCH.
As far as the rest of the screaming on this thread, you can't please all the people all the time. Some people really do enjoy spicy food. Is spicy food bad just because you don't like it? No, it means you shouldn't eat spicy food. Some people really do like EQ, and telling them it sucks won't make them not enjoy it. Get over it.
...
This is where I draw the line: __________________.
I love the jackasses here that call multiboxing "cheating" the official rules, and the only ones that matter are it is legal. There are cheaters though who use third party programs to play the second character and here are some rules for that:
1. Macroing is allowed as long as you are at the PC? yes / no - not really. The game offers limited ways to macro using hot keys that you can continually hit over and over again.
Message Edited by Kytherea on 02-06-2006 11:20 AM
Kytherea ~~fear the Halfling that wields a giant hammer & is accompanied by a hairless War Hamster~~
"We're off to bash the {insert character class here}"
I never used third party programs!
Heck some of the same jackasses think camps are legal, and play nice covers that. I used to love getting people suspended/banned for their BS about that. I also reported people buying/selling accounts/items but that went nowhere because both Verant/SOE refused to investigate. I wanted characters out of the game when the primary player quit so new players had to earn their way into raid guilds, not buy them. Every major raid guild is filled with bought characters at this time and nothing is being done about it.
I primarily boxed because of the teenage morons in the game who couldn't play worth a crap with a single character. Several times I would three box an encounter when a full group failed due to the piss poor play of these teenagers.
I also boxed with a character outside guild groups to add DPS as was listed, my Warrior then became a Tank/DPS character. This pisses off the babies playing casters, who played on easy mode for the most part. If Warriors weren't meant for DPS then every game since EQ was wrong. No; it is you that are wrong jackass, and thats why Brad is correcting that error in Vanguard and even EQ went that route to a large degree.
Many foolish teenagers post here like they know the official rules, they know jack and shit. I played since 1999 and they are n00bs.
I stand by my statement that EQ can prove its quality by getting players, that is an objective goal that can be shown and proves the games quality. The babies don't like having to prove anything, WoW hit one million+ players in a month, I again call on EQ to match it.
EQ is a crappy game to start new, beginning players should not bother.
As for screening my posts for errors, piss off! I will do as I please little tyrant, another reason to box, avoid jackasses like that ingame!
A lot of what I post is sarcastic humor, just ignore the silliness and dig out the official information. Yes EQ is a fun game, but not well set-up to join as a new player. You are way behind the power curve and player population is terrible.
As for liking WoW, I multiboxed EQ, you think I can like a game with less challenge then single box EQ? I do respect WoWs player numbers and its high quality, but it isn't for me.
I went and read all of Krenalors posts. Krenalor is not a WoW fanboi. Krenalor just seems to post alot of posts that are negative.
and I think that actually covers it - says it all, right thereJust a note; I've never expressed (to my knowledge) an opinion on how people play EQ. What I've done is identify they way people play.
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For gamers, EQ is over, dead.
However, some international intelligence agencies have looked into using EQ in forced play mode as an interrogation tool.
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=The best bash.org quote ever=
Curt teh Juggler: our graduation ceremony was today, and right when some gamer nerd got his diploma, someone in the audience played the zelda "get item" music and he did the zelda spin-hold-out-item stance
Curt teh Juggler: it was quite possibly the most amazing thing ever.
It's not dead, but it has developed Asthma over time and as a consequence, can't run and play with the other kids in the MMO playground like it used too. And the new kids take it's lunch money and even it's younger brother knows it's hovering near the Zapper.
It is nostalgic though to start it up(wait the forever amount of time for the patches to catch up from however many months I have been away) and roam freely through most zones. I was surprised a while back to see the change to Freeport. It was actually then, that I realized it was heading for the grave. They made a graphical update and might as well spent the time developeing more quests or fixing the annoyance bugs. It felt like I was in the story "The Little Engine That Could" and the little guy was trying to climb that hill but just wasn't getting any traction. Go EQ1, you can do it, I know you can, I beleive in you!!!! while muttering under my breath, just hurry up and die already, geez!
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"Our greatest glory consist not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall."
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