Originally posted by matraque Originally posted by jonaku Originally posted by baphamet hes just here to troll as usual, its a good thing he found a post from 4 months ago so he can start yet another pointless thread. hey jonaku, why don't you go back to the SWG forum and troll there? from reading all yours and most of the trolls that come here posts, all you guys do is complain and troll on every single forum you go to. i don't want to ever read a post saying you want a legitimate discussion , because its clear you don't. you look on the web for anything negative you could post about vanguard or SOE, and now you are just getting desperate. give it up already, we don't care about your anti-soe emo crusade....your not going to convince anyone to buy into your hate, all the other soe haters have moved back to the SWG forum where they belong, why don't you do the same? its clear you have no true interest in discussing vanguard, i don't see why you keep this up. actually i do and i just fell for it. yeah go ahead and quote me saying "typical vanboi response" but that is the reply you were hoping for right? thats clearly the whole point of you making these threads, this is getting a bit redundant jonaku.
your response is typical of the rabid vanboi. i expected no less.
i come here to provide constructive criticism of the game, but you once again try to squelch any dissenting opinion.
one thing, you forgot to say: "maybe you'd be happier in a game like WOW?".
OP, what you don't get is that you are providing OLD new to us... Just another frustrated SWG player....
Face it : SWG never been good... it will probably never be.
lawl
We should start a list of frustrated SWG players that troll these boards. I'll start.
Originally posted by SpiritofGame BUT warn you now at this point the game is very advanced graphic/processor wise meaning ur gonna need a higher end computer to play the game another friend of mine has a amd 2800 with 1 gig of ram and I forget what video card I think a geforce 5500 and he is unable to play the game
The geforce 5 series sucked. Probably have to turn down the graphics to play EQ with that card. Heck, on my second computer my old 4200ti went out and so I replaced it with a 5200fx and my graphic performance dropped drastically. I know many people think they have a pretty good comp because it was top of the line when they got it, but those three and four year old top of the line comps just won't cut it today (especially with the advancements in graphic cards).
Are people really being that critical of screenshots that a dev on the official forums has said were taken at the medium graphics setting? That, along with the fact that it's early beta 3, which means the game is likely unoptimized and still may lack many graphical aspects that make a game look good (AA and AF are usually some of the last areas to incorporate)...
To early to judge based on graphics. You just dont know if you dont play, which many of us dont. Along with viewing the screenshots, i would imagine it would be a good idea to research them a bit as well before passing judgement.
We should start a list of frustrated SWG players that troll these boards. I'll start. Jonaku Shayde That guy with the Gary Newman pic
Yeah, but Shayde generally doesn't hate anything except SoE for ruining SWG... And people that don't bow to the chaos gods. And I can't blame him. Chaos is strong.
Siehst du mich Erkennst du mich Ganz tief in meinem Herz ist noch ein Platz f?r dich Ich suche dich Ich sehne mich nach dem was ich geliebt hab doch ich find es nicht
yeah ouch...trying to make a pertinent bash out of something that's from the last phase of beta and getting smacked down by a bunch of random stangers has to get you a little butthurt.
Here is my word of advice to everyone. Play the game when it is finished( Ya know not being tested tweaked and changed like they do in beta)) and form your own opinion. You like it go for it, you don't quit it. I personally won't be taking the word of a few people who can't even seem to honor an NDA agreement. Seriously, how credible can they be heh.
Beta is a time of testing. Things are tweaked, tested, and worked on. The game is likly not going to be fun or pretty. Things to expect from a game in beta.
1. It likely won't perform as well as a game that's o say....Finished.
2. Graphics may look good in some areas, but be disastrous in others.
3. Game play will likely be bugged to no end, and probably not be the funnest in the world.
Now that being said it looks to me like a few of the complaints probably came from people who joined the game in its beta infancy and expected to get a free ride into a finished game. Sorry wrong answer. If you want to beta test be ready to test. Its not all about fun. Anyone who has actually Beta tested a game (not just joined up for a sneak peak actually tested)) Knows what beta is all about. Its not pretty, its often frustrating, and sometimes even unplayable.
I myself will wait until Vanguard launches, and I will give it a go then, and try the game for myself. I like the information I am reading, as well as the screenshots I am seeing. For me its about game play not the shiny graphics. I will play and form my own opinion which is what I advise everyone to do. Its a lot better option than taking the word of someone who can't even seem to honor a simple NDA agreement. Don't you think?
Psst. Beta 2. Ancient news. Try for something "fresher."
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Originally posted by Vengeful Originally posted by jonaku Originally posted by baphamet hes just here to troll as usual, its a good thing he found a post from 4 months ago so he can start yet another pointless thread. hey jonaku, why don't you go back to the SWG forum and troll there? from reading all yours and most of the trolls that come here posts, all you guys do is complain and troll on every single forum you go to. i don't want to ever read a post saying you want a legitimate discussion , because its clear you don't. you look on the web for anything negative you could post about vanguard or SOE, and now you are just getting desperate. give it up already, we don't care about your anti-soe emo crusade....your not going to convince anyone to buy into your hate, all the other soe haters have moved back to the SWG forum where they belong, why don't you do the same? its clear you have no true interest in discussing vanguard, i don't see why you keep this up. actually i do and i just fell for it. yeah go ahead and quote me saying "typical vanboi response" but that is the reply you were hoping for right? thats clearly the whole point of you making these threads, this is getting a bit redundant jonaku.
your response is typical of the rabid vanboi. i expected no less.
i come here to provide constructive criticism of the game, but you once again try to squelch any dissenting opinion.
one thing, you forgot to say: "maybe you'd be happier in a game like WOW?".
You know.... you're like that crazy lil' mut, with the lazy eye...the one that looses all it's fur and growls at everyone that comes over....shits on my bed and then bites me after I lay in it.
Everyone has their own likes and dislikes, some people like WOW, some dont, some people say EQ is boring and drags on, some enjoy the aspect of taking time and getting to know your chars.
When it comes live then we can all have a go and as already said some will like it others wont, but there will be problems, that happens in all games. If they are trying to recreate EQ (which i have gone back to after a short break and still love this game to bits, and MY OPINION is its the best going as i have played them all to date), if they want to recreate but make it more modern then good look, i hope it works. If it doesnt then my EQ account will remain open and back i go.
I actually though WOW had promise at first, although after EQ it was a bit to 'spoon fed' for my liking, but after time it got on my nerves, but i stuck with it and got my warrior to 60. That was enough so i left. It takes time and practice to get to know a game.
Lets see what the forums say 3 - 6 months after launch, then i think a better view of the game will appear.
*** lol lifes too short and even shorter when you play EQ ***
Originally posted by Aarodor Everyone has their own likes and dislikes, some people like WOW, some dont, some people say EQ is boring and drags on, some enjoy the aspect of taking time and getting to know your chars. When it comes live then we can all have a go and as already said some will like it others wont, but there will be problems, that happens in all games. If they are trying to recreate EQ (which i have gone back to after a short break and still love this game to bits, and MY OPINION is its the best going as i have played them all to date), if they want to recreate but make it more modern then good look, i hope it works. If it doesnt then my EQ account will remain open and back i go. I actually though WOW had promise at first, although after EQ it was a bit to 'spoon fed' for my liking, but after time it got on my nerves, but i stuck with it and got my warrior to 60. That was enough so i left. It takes time and practice to get to know a game. Lets see what the forums say 3 - 6 months after launch, then i think a better view of the game will appear. *** lol lifes too short and even shorter when you play EQ ***
I think you want the game to fail, so you could say "I told you so". But on the other hand, you want the game to be good, so you can finally quit WoW and play something new because you are bored out of your mind. It's ok, I feel your pain, just wait in line maybe Sigil will give you a beta invite soon.
LoL I never base final judgements on betas , showing how old I am here 2 of us got eq1 beta and could hardly play it for falling out of the world , or for no reason at all falling 10,000+ to our deaths well standing on a large flat area of grassland and there was a billion things wrong , half the time you couldnt even fight as encounters broke or mobs just went poof , there was then a 5 month gap till release and we just said no F-ing way is this going to work , then it was released by no means was every thing fixed , lol god some of the bugs are still there but yes it did work, as myself and loads of people i knew slowly ended up getting divorced and losing our houses and jobs to feed that eq addiction ..Lot of those people are now eyeing Vanguard and old eqcrack brain scars are firing old nearly forgotten addiction signals hell i caught myself sitting cross legged in my lounge with a book over my face refusing to move or talk to anyone and having a strange craving for GEMS(that is a old eq joke so waiting to hear some weird feedback on that joke as some will not get it ) so many people do miss that style of play and so many dont and some with attention spans of just 60 seconds want a game based on a goldfish discovering a castle in its fish bowl every 30 secs and going WOW a castle never seen that before , and vanguard is hopefully about that its a style of gameplay , and it is that that will set it apart and get its diehard fan base , I played WoW after getting fed up with eq2 well not fed up just lvl 3 chars to its then cap , and was shocked to lvl a char up to max in 6 weeks WTF is up with that I ended up feeling embarrassed not gratifed at doing so which was the oddest feeling to have playing a dam game , and I kept waiting for mobs that looked like road runner or bugs bunny to spawn and give be a beating its was so comic book in style play and well the key thing here intelligence which nicely swings me back to my point I miss games in this genre that have intelligence and depth and a huge story and lore base I didnt just grind xp in eq1 i went exploring , found myself killing no reward mobs because i wanted faction to someone or some place badly , i wanted , i felt a need to do this it took years to lvl to max ...Sadly the same can not be said for the rest I have played since , call me jaded , call me old school I honestly dont give a flying F-K , myself and alot of others I know all miss that feeling and want it back.
Originally posted by jordy11 I saw a gameplay vid and it was a disaster. Boring-Boring-Boring!!! This game sucks!!
Which one? There aren't that many so you should be able to tell me. I think you're lying though.
The title of this thread is freaking hilarious. Bad review of a beta? LMAO Anyone who would review a beta shouldn't get the privelege of being referred to as retarded.
Originally posted by anarchyart Originally posted by jordy11 I saw a gameplay vid and it was a disaster. Boring-Boring-Boring!!! This game sucks!!
Which one? There aren't that many so you should be able to tell me. I think you're lying though.
The title of this thread is freaking hilarious. Bad review of a beta? LMAO Anyone who would review a beta shouldn't get the privelege of being referred to as retarded.
Continuing to stalk anarchyart since I saw him the other day in BF2.
Just started the multiplayer myself, and now wondering which of these unlocked sniper rifles do I want to use on him?
This is exactly what i stated before. As harsh as the FoH member sounds on that post, he pretty much sums up what vanguard is currently like at the moment. People can say , "well its beta, what do you expect" all they want, but guess what?
Beta 2, they said it was beta, and it will get better, and they keep saying that after each beta version. Its beta 3 now and guess what, yep....... "its beta and it will get better"
Now when it comes 1 week from release, i wonder if they are going to say it again "its beta and it will get better, or wait! they have this miracle build that they are holding back for release date"
The other guy made a good point which is also true, if all these negative posts and remarks about vanguard are from people that have just tested it for a few hours and logged off at the first thing they didn't like in game and now made a negative post flamming it to hell without any sense of what the game really is all about is rubbish.
If that were the case and vanguard and really that good and there was more goods then bads about vanguard, don't you think that with about over 5k beta invites now that their would be a bit more then say .......300-500 beta testers on at peek time during the weekends????????
And that goes for beta 3 with the more invites they sent out, hell beta 2+ you would jump up and down with joy to log in and see over 100 on a friday night.
But with that said, i am with the rest of the people that hate allot of things about vanguard but still have faith and know deep down in side that if they turn shit around and work hard, they "might" pull it off. But they have a long way to go.
Oh yea, the FPS is a killer and with my monster machine, it still feels like i need to upgrade it more which is pathetic and i am not doing just for a damn game. EQ2 went to the same way and look at them, yea the game got ALLOT better but they don't have a million subscribers or more like they tried to aim for during the makings.
I will take shitty graphics and great gameplay any day of the week, UO was my first MMORPG ever and one of the best back in 1997-1998 and the graphics BLEW!
Originally posted by Evilplayer If that were the case and vanguard and really that good and there was more goods then bads about vanguard, don't you think that with about over 5k beta invites now that their would be a bit more then say .......300-500 beta testers on at peek time during the weekends????????
And that goes for beta 3 with the more invites they sent out, hell beta 2+ you would jump up and down with joy to log in and see over 100 on a friday night.
People were saying in beta 2 that the peak simultaneous was only 100 because the game was so boring. Recently, they have been saying that in beta 3, it's 1,000.
Has the peak simultaneous in the past few weeks in beta 3 already dropped from 1,000 to 300?
yeah I'm not seeing alot of beta leaks since beta3 started and there are thousands of testers, you would think if it sucked so bad that there would be alot more people hating on the game and breaking the NDA because they don't care if they get removed from beta.
Originally posted by Amathe So let me get this straight. If someone doesn't break the NDA that means they like the game. If someone does break the NDA that means they are some kind of loser who wouldn't know a good game from a bad one. That's cute. You've got it covered where no reasonable person could ever dislike the game! What color is the sky in fanboi land?
is it really that hard for you to understand? if you were in beta and liked a game would you risk not being able to play that game just so you can publicly tell people about it?
if you hated it and didn't want to play it anymore would it matter if if you got removed from beta? its not freaking rocket science and yet you still cant seem to grasp the concept.
i know...its because it doesn't support your opinion, tell me what color is the sky in anti-soe land?
Originally posted by anarchyart Originally posted by jordy11 I saw a gameplay vid and it was a disaster. Boring-Boring-Boring!!! This game sucks!!
Which one? There aren't that many so you should be able to tell me. I think you're lying though.
The title of this thread is freaking hilarious. Bad review of a beta? LMAO Anyone who would review a beta shouldn't get the privelege of being referred to as retarded.
I'm talking about that so called "fight video" which reveals the gameplay of Vanguard. Check it out:
Originally posted by baphamet i know...its because it doesn't support your opinion, tell me what color is the sky in anti-soe land?
My criticisms of Vanguard stand regardless of whether SOE is involved or not. I don't like SOE, but I was critical of Vanguard long before they were involved.
I could list 50 reasons why someone might honor an NDA even if they thought a game was trash, beginning with the fact they don't care enough to write about it. For example, I beta tested:
Auto Assualt
Rose Online (omg I am embarassed to admit that)
DDO
((and many, many others, but we will use those as the examples)
I thought all of those games were complete crap. But I never broke the NDA. Yet by your fallacious logic I loved those games!
EQ1, EQ2, SWG, SWTOR, GW, GW2 CoH, CoV, FFXI, WoW, CO, War,TSW and a slew of free trials and beta tests
Anyway, about leaks, I didn't like DDO. I was an Alpha 1 tester. I tried like hell to like the game. I never broke the NDA. I tried to tell them were they went wrong. I looked for bugs, etc. It was just boring. Here is the thing, everyone, I mean everyone knew it was boring. There is something to be said for rumors. Vanguard is going to be EQ2 with updated graphics. I will also bet dollars to donuts that end game will be raiding and if you aren't a raider you are a second class. These companies are too scared to buck the trend of level, level, level, raid, raid, raid.
I have only heard bad things as of yet. I love the "build your own cities" concept but what is the PVP like. If the game looks like the videos I have seen that's pathetic. Games that came out years ago had much better graphics.
Originally posted by Amathe Originally posted by baphamet i know...its because it doesn't support your opinion, tell me what color is the sky in anti-soe land? My criticisms of Vanguard stand regardless of whether SOE is involved or not. I don't like SOE, but I was critical of Vanguard long before they were involved. I could list 50 reasons why someone might honor an NDA even if they thought a game was trash, beginning with the fact they don't care enough to write about it. But it wouldn't persuade you because in your world Bradzzorz 1s da r0xx0rz and the facts don't matter.
that is very true, there are many reasons why if someone didn't like beta they would not break NDA. but my point is, if they did like it and wanted to continue playing it THEY WILL NOT BREAK THE NDA TO RISK BEING REMOVED FROM BETA, PERIOD.
also assuming that there are thousands of new beta invites why is it that there are not tons of beta leaks saying how much people hate beta3?
not everyone that hates beta3 is going to keep quiet (as we seen in beta2 leaks) if it is so bad where are they? thats all i wanna know....the fact is there are thousands of new beta testers now and alot fewer beta leaks, please explain to me why that is?
and as far as you thinking i am some fanboi that ignores facts because I'm all on the Dev's nuts it is soooo far from the truth. see I'm the type of person that does not take speculation and consider it fact, i think for myself i don't consider what some disgruntled beta tester says about the game and assume it is fact or assume it is the same way i will feel about vanguard.
i wait to see for myself, like the gameplay movies......i agree with alot of people that the animations are not very good ATM i go with facts or what i have seen first hand, not beta leaks because again all the beta leaks are being posted by people that don't like the game and don't care if they get removed from beta.
why should i believe that what some dood on the internet says, when he says that he heard from a friend that heard from a friend that beta sucks? why should i assume that just because he doesn't like vanguard or the condition of beta that i will also not like it?
no, you are wrong about me...facts and seeing it with my own eyes are the only thing that matters to me....speculation is what means nothing.
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your response is typical of the rabid vanboi. i expected no less.
i come here to provide constructive criticism of the game, but you once again try to squelch any dissenting opinion.
one thing, you forgot to say: "maybe you'd be happier in a game like WOW?".
OP, what you don't get is that you are providing OLD new to us... Just another frustrated SWG player....
Face it : SWG never been good... it will probably never be.
lawl
We should start a list of frustrated SWG players that troll these boards. I'll start.
Jonaku
Shayde
That guy with the Gary Newman pic
Are people really being that critical of screenshots that a dev on the official forums has said were taken at the medium graphics setting? That, along with the fact that it's early beta 3, which means the game is likely unoptimized and still may lack many graphical aspects that make a game look good (AA and AF are usually some of the last areas to incorporate)...
To early to judge based on graphics. You just dont know if you dont play, which many of us dont. Along with viewing the screenshots, i would imagine it would be a good idea to research them a bit as well before passing judgement.
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Here is my word of advice to everyone. Play the game when it is finished( Ya know not being tested tweaked and changed like they do in beta)) and form your own opinion. You like it go for it, you don't quit it. I personally won't be taking the word of a few people who can't even seem to honor an NDA agreement. Seriously, how credible can they be heh.
Beta is a time of testing. Things are tweaked, tested, and worked on. The game is likly not going to be fun or pretty. Things to expect from a game in beta.
1. It likely won't perform as well as a game that's o say....Finished.
2. Graphics may look good in some areas, but be disastrous in others.
3. Game play will likely be bugged to no end, and probably not be the funnest in the world.
Now that being said it looks to me like a few of the complaints probably came from people who joined the game in its beta infancy and expected to get a free ride into a finished game. Sorry wrong answer. If you want to beta test be ready to test. Its not all about fun. Anyone who has actually Beta tested a game (not just joined up for a sneak peak actually tested)) Knows what beta is all about. Its not pretty, its often frustrating, and sometimes even unplayable.
I myself will wait until Vanguard launches, and I will give it a go then, and try the game for myself. I like the information I am reading, as well as the screenshots I am seeing. For me its about game play not the shiny graphics. I will play and form my own opinion which is what I advise everyone to do. Its a lot better option than taking the word of someone who can't even seem to honor a simple NDA agreement. Don't you think?
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your response is typical of the rabid vanboi. i expected no less.
i come here to provide constructive criticism of the game, but you once again try to squelch any dissenting opinion.
one thing, you forgot to say: "maybe you'd be happier in a game like WOW?".
You know.... you're like that crazy lil' mut, with the lazy eye...the one that looses all it's fur and growls at everyone that comes over....shits on my bed and then bites me after I lay in it.
...but you know what....
YOU'RE STILL MY DOG!
I LOVE YOU JONKAU!!!
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Everyone has their own likes and dislikes, some people like WOW, some dont, some people say EQ is boring and drags on, some enjoy the aspect of taking time and getting to know your chars.
When it comes live then we can all have a go and as already said some will like it others wont, but there will be problems, that happens in all games. If they are trying to recreate EQ (which i have gone back to after a short break and still love this game to bits, and MY OPINION is its the best going as i have played them all to date), if they want to recreate but make it more modern then good look, i hope it works. If it doesnt then my EQ account will remain open and back i go.
I actually though WOW had promise at first, although after EQ it was a bit to 'spoon fed' for my liking, but after time it got on my nerves, but i stuck with it and got my warrior to 60. That was enough so i left. It takes time and practice to get to know a game.
Lets see what the forums say 3 - 6 months after launch, then i think a better view of the game will appear.
*** lol lifes too short and even shorter when you play EQ ***
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I saw a gameplay vid and
it was a disaster. Boring-Boring-Boring!!!
This game sucks!!
Which one? There aren't that many so you should be able to tell me. I think you're lying though.
The title of this thread is freaking hilarious. Bad review of a beta? LMAO Anyone who would review a beta shouldn't get the privelege of being referred to as retarded.
Which one? There aren't that many so you should be able to tell me. I think you're lying though.
The title of this thread is freaking hilarious. Bad review of a beta? LMAO Anyone who would review a beta shouldn't get the privelege of being referred to as retarded.
Continuing to stalk anarchyart since I saw him the other day in BF2.
Just started the multiplayer myself, and now wondering which of these unlocked sniper rifles do I want to use on him?
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This is exactly what i stated before. As harsh as the FoH member sounds on that post, he pretty much sums up what vanguard is currently like at the moment. People can say , "well its beta, what do you expect" all they want, but guess what?
Beta 2, they said it was beta, and it will get better, and they keep saying that after each beta version. Its beta 3 now and guess what, yep....... "its beta and it will get better"
Now when it comes 1 week from release, i wonder if they are going to say it again "its beta and it will get better, or wait! they have this miracle build that they are holding back for release date"
The other guy made a good point which is also true, if all these negative posts and remarks about vanguard are from people that have just tested it for a few hours and logged off at the first thing they didn't like in game and now made a negative post flamming it to hell without any sense of what the game really is all about is rubbish.
If that were the case and vanguard and really that good and there was more goods then bads about vanguard, don't you think that with about over 5k beta invites now that their would be a bit more then say .......300-500 beta testers on at peek time during the weekends????????
And that goes for beta 3 with the more invites they sent out, hell beta 2+ you would jump up and down with joy to log in and see over 100 on a friday night.
But with that said, i am with the rest of the people that hate allot of things about vanguard but still have faith and know deep down in side that if they turn shit around and work hard, they "might" pull it off. But they have a long way to go.
Oh yea, the FPS is a killer and with my monster machine, it still feels like i need to upgrade it more which is pathetic and i am not doing just for a damn game. EQ2 went to the same way and look at them, yea the game got ALLOT better but they don't have a million subscribers or more like they tried to aim for during the makings.
I will take shitty graphics and great gameplay any day of the week, UO was my first MMORPG ever and one of the best back in 1997-1998 and the graphics BLEW!
People were saying in beta 2 that the peak simultaneous was only 100 because the game was so boring. Recently, they have been saying that in beta 3, it's 1,000.
Has the peak simultaneous in the past few weeks in beta 3 already dropped from 1,000 to 300?
yeah I'm not seeing alot of beta leaks since beta3 started and there are thousands of testers, you would think if it sucked so bad that there would be alot more people hating on the game and breaking the NDA because they don't care if they get removed from beta.
So let me get this straight.
If someone doesn't break the NDA that means they like the game.
If someone does break the NDA that means they are some kind of loser who wouldn't know a good game from a bad one.
That's cute. You've got it covered where no reasonable person could ever dislike the game!
What color is the sky in fanboi land?
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is it really that hard for you to understand? if you were in beta and liked a game would you risk not being able to play that game just so you can publicly tell people about it?
if you hated it and didn't want to play it anymore would it matter if if you got removed from beta? its not freaking rocket science and yet you still cant seem to grasp the concept.
i know...its because it doesn't support your opinion, tell me what color is the sky in anti-soe land?
Which one? There aren't that many so you should be able to tell me. I think you're lying though.
The title of this thread is freaking hilarious. Bad review of a beta? LMAO Anyone who would review a beta shouldn't get the privelege of being referred to as retarded.
I'm talking about that so called "fight video" which reveals the gameplay of Vanguard. Check it out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5km0XsbPYjY&mode=related&search=
Now...
Please, try to be honest- and admit that there is NO FUN in what u see!! U have to agree that this vid is PATHETIC even for a game in beta...
i.e. it sucs!
Thank you, and goodnight...
My criticisms of Vanguard stand regardless of whether SOE is involved or not. I don't like SOE, but I was critical of Vanguard long before they were involved.
I could list 50 reasons why someone might honor an NDA even if they thought a game was trash, beginning with the fact they don't care enough to write about it. For example, I beta tested:
Auto Assualt
Rose Online (omg I am embarassed to admit that)
DDO
((and many, many others, but we will use those as the examples)
I thought all of those games were complete crap. But I never broke the NDA. Yet by your fallacious logic I loved those games!
EQ1, EQ2, SWG, SWTOR, GW, GW2 CoH, CoV, FFXI, WoW, CO, War,TSW and a slew of free trials and beta tests
Anyway, about leaks, I didn't like DDO. I was an Alpha 1 tester. I tried like hell to like the game. I never broke the NDA. I tried to tell them were they went wrong. I looked for bugs, etc. It was just boring. Here is the thing, everyone, I mean everyone knew it was boring. There is something to be said for rumors. Vanguard is going to be EQ2 with updated graphics. I will also bet dollars to donuts that end game will be raiding and if you aren't a raider you are a second class. These companies are too scared to buck the trend of level, level, level, raid, raid, raid.
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that is very true, there are many reasons why if someone didn't like beta they would not break NDA. but my point is, if they did like it and wanted to continue playing it THEY WILL NOT BREAK THE NDA TO RISK BEING REMOVED FROM BETA, PERIOD.
also assuming that there are thousands of new beta invites why is it that there are not tons of beta leaks saying how much people hate beta3?
not everyone that hates beta3 is going to keep quiet (as we seen in beta2 leaks) if it is so bad where are they? thats all i wanna know....the fact is there are thousands of new beta testers now and alot fewer beta leaks, please explain to me why that is?
and as far as you thinking i am some fanboi that ignores facts because I'm all on the Dev's nuts it is soooo far from the truth. see I'm the type of person that does not take speculation and consider it fact, i think for myself i don't consider what some disgruntled beta tester says about the game and assume it is fact or assume it is the same way i will feel about vanguard.
i wait to see for myself, like the gameplay movies......i agree with alot of people that the animations are not very good ATM i go with facts or what i have seen first hand, not beta leaks because again all the beta leaks are being posted by people that don't like the game and don't care if they get removed from beta.
why should i believe that what some dood on the internet says, when he says that he heard from a friend that heard from a friend that beta sucks? why should i assume that just because he doesn't like vanguard or the condition of beta that i will also not like it?
no, you are wrong about me...facts and seeing it with my own eyes are the only thing that matters to me....speculation is what means nothing.