horde are gonna destroy alliance!

willrose

ok look at this horde own only reason we ally last is cuase of pallys by giving them pallys the gave them wow. ally get shammys yes but this is post to keep it even...no even if we get shammys they will still own us espically in battle grounds so why cant we keep the way it is.

tell me what yall think.

Mastermartz

umm....wtf did u just say....

RavenStJ

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Originally posted by Mastermartz
umm....wtf did u just say....

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hell i dont know... ><

Unknown

Posts like these are what will encourage me to be a good parent.

Brotheryang

Dude first of all with that each side can be any calss so far so thats not why they beat ally. Horde beat ally because all the little kids play ally and dont know how to play. All the mature people who can play there class play Horde . Also i do know some adults play ally so plz dont hate me its just a fact that alot more kids play ally and thats why ally sucks

Volkmar

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Originally posted by willrose

ok look at this horde own only reason we ally last is cuase of pallys by giving them pallys the gave them wow. ally get shammys yes but this is post to keep it even...no even if we get shammys they will still own us espically in battle grounds so why cant we keep the way it is.
tell me what yall think.

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Disclaimer: I do not think to be a English master (it is not even my mothertongue), this service is provided for the community and has no malice or bad intentions in it. thanks.

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Ok, think of this: The Horde is dominant.

The only reason we Alliance can win every now and then is thanks to the paladins. Niow, with blizzard giving the paladins to the Horde, they basically gave them total dominance in WoW. Alliance will get shamans, yes, but that is made to make things even between Horde and Alliance.

No, even if we get shamans, Horde will still dominate us, especially in Battlegrounds, so why can't we all forget about this paladin/shamans things and keep it as it was?

Please, tell me what you think.

Thanks

Have a nice day.

PS: Sorry for my poor english, it is not my first language, please be kind.

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Ok. I disagree. Paladins are not very good in PvP, they have a limited role at best (ie: flag carriers) but that's it.

Shamans on the other hand are very effective in PvP, so actually giving Paladins to the horde will not make them stronger in pvp (they will have an easier time with raids, surely), instead giving alliance shamans WILL make them stronger.

This being said, organization will win your fight most of the time against a not-so-organized enemy.

Thank

Have a nice day

NeonShadow

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Originally posted by Volkmar
Ok. I disagree. Paladins are not very good in PvP, they have a limited role at best (ie: flag carriers) but that's it.
Shamans on the other hand are very effective in PvP, so actually giving Paladins to the horde will not make them stronger in pvp (they will have an easier time with raids, surely), instead giving alliance shamans WILL make them stronger.

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Paladin's not good at PvP? Has it ever occured to you that they are the best PvP healers? Me (Paladin) and my friend (Warrior) can duo about 3-5 people at the same time if they have worse/equal/abit better gear than us. No, we dont have amazing epics (unless you count TuF and Don Julio's band as amazing epics) and no our opponent's dont lack skill's. WoW PvP != skill.

Althought I do admit that sometimes they are just plain stupid because they try to bash my friend while I heal him. It would be better if they'd have atleast 1-2 dudes attacking me too but even then in most cases we would survive, thank's to pally bubbles.

And then Shaman's.. Shaman's aren't that good in grp PvP because they go OOM fast and they can be killed pretty fast/easily depending on the circuimstances. Shamans dont have the ability to just bubble up for 12 seconds and continue healing/doing damage like Paladin's wich can truly change the tide of the battle. Elemental shaman's will do a bit better in PvP with good gear (read: raid epics with +damage stuff. Be it chain/leather/cloth, doesnt matter.) compared to their enhancement shaman brothers.

Main problem with shammies is that you need good gear at 60 to actually be able to do stuff.

And for the record, I have leveled a Shaman and Paladin to 60 so I'm not a complete ignoramus about this matter.

Jarlath

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Originally posted by Brotheryang
Dude first of all with that each side can be any calss so far so thats not why they beat ally. Horde beat ally because all the little kids play ally and dont know how to play. All the mature people who can play there class play Horde . Also i do know some adults play ally so plz dont hate me its just a fact that alot more kids play ally and thats why ally sucks

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All kids i know who play it rape the most of the adults, it's not a question of age. And to the OP gtfo

willrose

ok yall thank you for your comments. yes i do have bad english skills. i agree with most of you but i still agree with my view, but if thats what yall think cool.

kaibigan34

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Originally posted by NeonShadow

Originally posted by Volkmar
Ok. I disagree. Paladins are not very good in PvP, they have a limited role at best (ie: flag carriers) but that's it.
Shamans on the other hand are very effective in PvP, so actually giving Paladins to the horde will not make them stronger in pvp (they will have an easier time with raids, surely), instead giving alliance shamans WILL make them stronger.

Paladin's not good at PvP? Has it ever occured to you that they are the best PvP healers? Me (Paladin) and my friend (Warrior) can duo about 3-5 people at the same time if they have worse/equal/abit better gear than us. No, we dont have amazing epics (unless you count TuF and Don Julio's band as amazing epics) and no our opponent's dont lack skill's. WoW PvP != skill.

Althought I do admit that sometimes they are just plain stupid because they try to bash my friend while I heal him. It would be better if they'd have atleast 1-2 dudes attacking me too but even then in most cases we would survive, thank's to pally bubbles.

And then Shaman's.. Shaman's aren't that good in grp PvP because they go OOM fast and they can be killed pretty fast/easily depending on the circuimstances. Shamans dont have the ability to just bubble up for 12 seconds and continue healing/doing damage like Paladin's wich can truly change the tide of the battle. Elemental shaman's will do a bit better in PvP with good gear (read: raid epics with +damage stuff. Be it chain/leather/cloth, doesnt matter.) compared to their enhancement shaman brothers.

Main problem with shammies is that you need good gear at 60 to actually be able to do stuff.

And for the record, I have leveled a Shaman and Paladin to 60 so I'm not a complete ignoramus about this matter.

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Paladins are not that good at PVP. My main is a 60 hunter (Marksmen and Survival specced). I have limited PVP experiance (Scout rank) in WoW. I dropped a high ranked 60 paladin 4 times in a row and he never touched me.

As to the original postters comments. Alliance out number horde at least 3 to 1. Even with paladins on our side we horde still get the short end of the stick. Along with this cross realm BG they should have added an auto team balance.

Kai

DVsilent

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Originally posted by Brotheryang
Dude first of all with that each side can be any calss so far so thats not why they beat ally. Horde beat ally because all the little kids play ally and dont know how to play. All the mature people who can play there class play Horde . Also i do know some adults play ally so plz dont hate me its just a fact that alot more kids play ally and thats why ally sucks

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To start off, DUDE how old are you man, stick to school, give WOW a breaked, you need to spend some more time in english class or somewhat......No i beg to differ there are allot of more adults than kids that play this game, i almost guarantee it, and a;;iance sucks because of people like you..... stop playing ally and i think we would be alright

sushimees

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Originally posted by willrose

ok look at this horde own only reason we ally last is cuase of pallys by giving them pallys the gave them wow. ally get shammys yes but this is post to keep it even...no even if we get shammys they will still own us espically in battle grounds so why cant we keep the way it is.
tell me what yall think.

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They gave us shaman and them paladins, because then there would be no complex in raiding. Not because allies are doing bad in BGs

Ninix

what? hord will never own alliance..... alliance owns horde and will always do..... most of the hord plays ive battled in wsg sucked kinda much.... but yes.. some of the alliance players sucked 2.. but not as many as on the horde side...

thexegg37

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Originally posted by Jkun
Posts like these are what will encourage me to be a good parent.

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WTF? how does this relate to being a  parrent?

WastedAgain

Anyone else think the thought of Evil-Nightelf-Paladins roaming freely in Undercity is a really BAD idea?

I also found that horde usually are the more mature side.

 I think that has something to do with it honestly.

My first Char was an alliance, then i figured it out.

If i wanted to win BGs i better make a horde.

Horde will have blood elf chicks soon, so who knows what the future will hold. (kids love the female elfs)

Mastermartz

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Originally posted by Jkun
Posts like these are what will encourage me to be a good parent.

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Lmao..thats really funny but true

Volkmar

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Originally posted by thexegg37

Originally posted by Jkun
Posts like these are what will encourage me to be a good parent.

WTF? how does this relate to being a  parrent?

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because it shows you what happen when you are a BAD one. so better teaching your kid from a young age certain basic principles and education.

CaptainRPG

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Originally posted by NeonShadow

Paladin's not good at PvP? Has it ever occured to you that they are the best PvP healers? Me (Paladin) and my friend (Warrior) can duo about 3-5 people at the same time if they have worse/equal/abit better gear than us. No, we dont have amazing epics (unless you count TuF and Don Julio's band as amazing epics) and no our opponent's dont lack skill's. WoW PvP != skill.

Paladins are the best healing tanks in the game, but not the best healers. They are okay tanks and healers in small groups, but in big groups and against smart groups, paladins are dead weight. If a paladin weakness is the same as the warriors, which is being attacked by magic. If you want to take down a paladin easy, wait till he tries to heal himself or someone else then have one of your mages counterspell him. One he's been counter-spelled unload on him with your most powerful magic skills and he'll go down just like the warrior.

Really good teams on the horde don't "F" around, they know that the Alliance's weak point is with their paladins and without their healing spells, paladins are worthless. This is why I didn't like how Blizzard forced the Paladin into one primary role because that made them much more easy to defeat. Even Shaman use similar tactics with Earthshock against paladins.

Althought I do admit that sometimes they are just plain stupid because they try to bash my friend while I heal him. It would be better if they'd have atleast 1-2 dudes attacking me too but even then in most cases we would survive, thank's to pally bubbles.

That's because they were all noobs or undergeared. Again, teams that know what they are doing are not going to let the paladin heal. Sure you can't kill the paladin really fast, but once you take out his friends, the paladin is an egg waiting to be broken. I remember findin myself laughing after reading the post of a fellow level 60 paladin who had all their gear and agreed with me when I had said a paladin will only cast 2 or 3 healing before bubbling then afterwards against a good team. One or two heals will be for your friend while last heal will be for yourself right before you bubble. And bubbling is doing nothing more than staling the inevitable outcome.

And then Shaman's.. Shaman's aren't that good in grp PvP because they go OOM fast and they can be killed pretty fast/easily depending on the circuimstances. Shamans dont have the ability to just bubble up for 12 seconds and continue healing/doing damage like Paladin's wich can truly change the tide of the battle. Elemental shaman's will do a bit better in PvP with good gear (read: raid epics with +damage stuff. Be it chain/leather/cloth, doesnt matter.) compared to their enhancement shaman brothers.
Main problem with shammies is that you need good gear at 60 to actually be able to do stuff.
That maybe so, but with the right gear a Windfury Shaman can outfight a Retribution Paladin anda  Elemental Shaman can one-shot a paladin. The highest damage done to a  paladin was 4k by a shaman using a lightning spell. Such a feat kills all class except a warrior with REALLY GOOD gear as a Warrior is capable of getting 5k HP.

xpowderx

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Originally posted by willrose

ok look at this horde own only reason we ally last is cuase of pallys by giving them pallys the gave them wow. ally get shammys yes but this is post to keep it even...no even if we get shammys they will still own us espically in battle grounds so why cant we keep the way it is.
tell me what yall think.

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LOL@ Alliance!1 The only BG you could stay competitive in is Warsong! Horde(at least on my server) would own alliance all day long in AB/AV..lol

Valentina

LoL