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XApotheosisX
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can anyone give me a list or at least a few good "sandbox" MMOs that are out or in developement. I tire of the level and item grind.
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Ryzom and EVE are the current sandboxes.
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A Tale in the Desert 3.
It literally is a sandbox.
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Horizons is a little bit sandbox with its crafting. A Tale In The Desert is yeah....literally a sandbox. UO is a sandbox...EVE is a sandbox. Ryzom is pretty much a sandbox also.
There's a few out there, but i believe a few more sandbox games are in development now....*crosses fingers*
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Don't bother with Horizons. Ever since the game was sold to the new owners, credit cards are charged for trials, double and triple charged for subscriptions, and the owners have basically made it known they have no intentions of adding or fixing anything in the game. What's there is all you will ever have. New expansion was killed the minute they took over.
I think a sandbox mmo is when they let the community build it from the ground up, econemy wise. alot of games think it's fun to see the community build the game for them.
sadly the community state of most mmo's is made up of PVP whores that have a 5 word vocabulary, and crafting junkes that dont do anyhting else but craft (I'm in that group).
There are RP'rs here and there, but after watching a few friends RP in WoW, I just sighed and walked away.
My definition would be that the game has to have multiple fully developed ways of playing. Be it crafting , battling, trading whatever.
Sandbox to most people is a game where you can build your own buildings, along with player run communities etc. or like EVe where you control systems and the economy is very well handled.
Personally I don't consider Tale in Desert a sandbox game. All you can do is build, make stuff. Find it as restrictive in what you can do as a level grind game personally lol.
As far as Roma Victor, all they had to do was release the game as promised. They released too soon, all too common event among the small developers. Basically whover payed for the retail payed for BETA and to allow the devs to finish the damn game. That is simply unaccaptable as far as I'm concerned. Hopefully they manage to fix things up and make the game fully plyable, I might consider playing it since it showed promise.
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The sandbox concept was created by Raph Koster as a way for MMOG developers to avoid having to go to all the trouble and expense of making an actual game with actual content and an actual AI.
Do you know who Raph Koster is? He's the guy who said "The best gamers are the ones who always pay their subscription fees, but never log on!"
Raph Koster is no friend to the gamer! But I digress...
Here are some words that aptly discribe what sandbox MMOGs are: Hollow, vacuous, tedious, unimaginative, unentertaining, and uninspired.
The sandbox concept has been very successful at one thing: separating the simple-minded from their money!
Sandbox term can be bent an twisted,The main thing players look for and call "sandbox" is freeform play,vary few restrictions,And something for everyone.The idea is to atttract multible player types and the option to shape your own politics.
Games that used to hold a Sandbox playerbase:Ultima online-Anarchy online-Shadowbane-SWG.
Games starting to hold a sanbox playerbase:Saga of ryzom-Roma victor.
Games that are holding a sandbox player base:Eve-online.
A sandbox is not somthing you can plan,it needs a good balance of playstyles..And the game needs to offer it the option of freeform play.Main things it needs to attract.pvp/crafting/roleplaying/Good npcing/resorse gathering/questing/Safezones/Evil players/good players.
Once theres to many of the same type of player the games will loose its sandbox feel,.
A "sandbox" MMOG has no levels or character classes or quests or "Good npcing" whatever that is...lol.
Sandbox = no content.
The players and the 3D enviroments only.
Connect a load of peoples computers and see if a game occours.
Hey Baff, do you mind if I use your observation in some of my future posts on this matter? Fuckin' classic!
Here's the true definition:
A sandbox-style videogame is a video game with an open-ended and non-linear style of gameplay. The sandbox
analogy is used to describe this style of gaming because, as with a
physical sa ndbox,
the user is simply allowed to do what he or she wishes (with the
available game elements and within the limitations of the game engine -
the metaphoric toys within, and bounds of, the sandbox). This free-form
experimentation is either an end unto itself - in contrast to competing
models of gaming - or is a variant modality that has no effect on more
traditional or usual play of the same game, such as scores, game level
advancement milestones, player rankings etc. Just as a real-world
sandbox can be smoothed out and resculpted again and again, so the
sandbox game or game mode can be played and explored repeatedly without
a linear "plot" or a particular set of expectations, nor any lasting
game-play consequences.
A sandbox MMO is simply an MMO with no classes, restrictions, and hard-coded boundaries. This creates player-driven content, such as player-run economy, politics, and open PvP.
A "sandbox" game is basically a virtual reality, a world where there are very few restrictions on what a player can or cannot do. Community is most important in these games, because the players create the world.
Thank you for your cooperation.
The sandbox concept was created by Raph Koster as a way for MMOG developers to avoid having to go to all the trouble and expense of making an actual game with actual content and an actual AI.
Do you know who Raph Koster is? He's the guy who said "The best gamers are the ones who always pay their subscription fees, but never log on!"
Raph Koster is no friend to the gamer! But I digress...
Here are some words that aptly discribe what sandbox MMOGs are: Hollow, vacuous, tedious, unimaginative, unentertaining, and uninspired.
The sandbox concept has been very successful at one thing: separating the simple-minded from their money!
Personally I was hoping this post wasn't going to turn into a "Rofflez my game of choice is better than yours". However should have expected that on the net.
So basically you don't like them ... wow, fantastic you have an opinion. you know what they say about opinions and assholes right? But I digress, stick to the EQ2, WoW or whatever other game you seem to be playing that you enjoy. So then why are you posting here? are you that "self important" you need to throw your opinions where they are not wanted?
I guess i could muster up an obligatory insult of current MMOs but you know what? it's ok if you like them, I'm not 5 and don't think the world revolves around me or my playstyle.
that being said ...
To me a sandbox MMO gives me the freedom to do what i want when i want, if i want to sit in a cantina all day chit chatting with friends ... I can. Without feeling like i am missing out on some instanced or some raid that will give me levels or ubah l00t. A place where i can feel like im actually living there and not playing a game. Now don't get me wrong I'm no RPer either never was and never will be (not that I am against Rpers). But for example of SWG there was soo much to do besides ... grind levels and get loot, I didn't need an NPC to tell me what to do or give me direction.
I could log on and hunt for animal hides to sell to crafters
I could log on and look for animals to tame
I could log on and explore Points of interest and get badges
I could log on and Run bounty missions
I could log on and join my PA in hunting Krayts
I could log on and Hunt Rebels
I could log on and hunt Jedi (when they were added)
I could log on and explore space and fight in space
There was just soo much to do where as in EQ2 (the game i play now)
I could log on and level
I could log on and try to get gear
But again there is nothing wrong with EQ2, if you enjoy that ... AWESOME glad you found a game you like to play.
IE. Everything you find in any other MMO minus most of the programming.
Commonly found in cheap, failed, genre monopolised or dinosaur MMO's from prehistory.
Thank you for your cooperation.
Yeah, I did copy and paste it from Wikipedia, how is that an insult? By the way, I added the last paragraph in reference to MMO's.