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Whats with SWG

Just getting into the MMO genre a few years ago (runsecape..dear lord im sorry)

now playing WoW and a few Free ones


whats the deal with SWG..i heard that they re-vamped it entirely..and with the jedis...can someone explain this to me? many thanks

o and a question for WoW

anyone know when BC comes out?

Lifes like a million dollars

You think its alot untill its all gone

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  • SnaKeySnaKey Member Posts: 3,386

    They completely changed the game.

    I played after the change unfortounatly(sp?) but I have to say that it blew. I liked it till I started looking for resources about the game and kept running into old stuff. After doing a bit of research on what it used to be, I totally lost intrest. It really seemed that it was a great game, but they completely botched it up.

    CU referes to the Combat Upgrade. In other words, they totally f'd up combat and made it brainless.
    I don't know what NG stands for, but it's what made all the classes and skills vanish and turn into that screwed up leveling system they have now.

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  • ResetgunResetgun Member Posts: 471


    Originally posted by SnaKey

    They completely changed the game.
    I played after the change unfortounatly(sp?) but I have to say that it blew. I liked it till I started looking for resources about the game and kept running into old stuff. After doing a bit of research on what it used to be, I totally lost intrest. It really seemed that it was a great game, but they completely botched it up.
    CU referes to the Combat Upgrade. In other words, they totally f'd up combat and made it brainless.
    I don't know what NG stands for, but it's what made all the classes and skills vanish and turn into that screwed up leveling system they have now.


    CU (Combat Upgrade) was combat upgrade before NGE (New Game Enchancement). Yes, they have actually upgrade combat system 2 times in 3 years. CU added levels and removed two damage pools (mind, action). CU was still pretty playable. NGE changed game to very bad first person shooter and removed skill based system. SWG is now totally different kind game. It used to be free world, where you can choose your characters skills and mix them without levels or artificial classes. Now it is very bad copy from WoW that have somekind "first person shooter" combat system (far away from real first persons shooter like Battlefield or Counter Strike).

    My recommendation: don't waste your money or time.

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  • wolfmanswolfmans Member Posts: 28


    Originally posted by Resetgun

    Originally posted by SnaKey

    They completely changed the game.
    I played after the change unfortounatly(sp?) but I have to say that it blew. I liked it till I started looking for resources about the game and kept running into old stuff. After doing a bit of research on what it used to be, I totally lost intrest. It really seemed that it was a great game, but they completely botched it up.
    CU referes to the Combat Upgrade. In other words, they totally f'd up combat and made it brainless.
    I don't know what NG stands for, but it's what made all the classes and skills vanish and turn into that screwed up leveling system they have now.

    CU (Combat Upgrade) was combat upgrade before NGE (New Game Enchancement). Yes, they have actually upgrade combat system 2 times in 3 years. CU added levels and removed two damage pools (mind, action). CU was still pretty playable. NGE changed game to very bad first person shooter and removed skill based system. SWG is now totally different kind game. It used to be free world, where you can choose your characters skills and mix them without levels or artificial classes. Now it is very bad copy from WoW that have somekind "first person shooter" combat system (far away from real first persons shooter like Battlefield or Counter Strike).

    My recommendation: don't waste your money or time.



    Worse it was actually twice in 12 months. The cu was known to everyone for a long time it was coming but nge was just dropped on us. SoE believe the path to dominance of the market is to change the combat system every few months with minimal testing. Lose all there veterans and start again to recruit.

    I played for over 2 years and i wouldn't advise anyoen to buy the game now.

  • chlaoschlaos Member Posts: 1,118
    Basically, the only thing "with SWG" is that SOE and LA killed it with the introduction of the NGE.  

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  • BballdudeBballdude Member Posts: 34
    well becuase on the commercial it looked like unreal..becuase i love the starwars universe..but i stil lknew about the NGE...and then i just felt like forgetting about it..is there any chance of the game going back to its original state?

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  • ianubisiianubisi Member Posts: 4,201


    Originally posted by SnaKey
    I don't know if I'm allowed to discuss it here or not

    You're not allowed to discuss it. It's illegal.

  • SnaKeySnaKey Member Posts: 3,386

    nvm

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  • kidRiotkidRiot Member Posts: 209

    I played SWG since it launched, the greatest MMO pre NGE (I thought the CU was fine).

    Anyways, they changed the whole system to SWG 3 times in total, 2 very big ones, the Combat Upgrade, then the New Game Enhancements.  It basically turned original SWG:

    -Best PvPing

    -Awesome player Economy

    -Awesome Profession system

    -Best MMO experiences ive ever had

    Into SWG/WoW.  It use to be with Professions, and being able to dabble in many, like be a Tera Kasi Master and a Combat Medic, or Droid Engineer, it was very fun and customizable, did i say the PvP was awesome?

    Now its lvl based...Woopie.  When they released the CU, SWG lost a big chunk of there community, when they released the NGE, they all almost everyone who didnt leave for WoW.

    My guild on Bloodfin, DREAD (AXIS) was up to 200 members, and when the CU came, many head to WoW for a bit.  Before the NGE hit, they ALL moved to WoW and so did i.  That game is dead and is never going to be good again.  I move where the PvP goes, and when they ruined a great, innovating MMO, they paid for it.

    Now there are classes, 6 or so, and there releasing these expertise trees, i guess like WoWs talent system.  SWG is filled with a bunch of no name non factors who think there the shit because there a Jedi, when Eldar Jedi (people who got jedi before the NGE) had to work DAMN hard to get theres, which is why all the meta pvpers left.

    SWGs economy is shit, no longer skill based, lvl based, gear based...Its shit, basically Star Wars version of WoW.

  • ObraikObraik Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 7,261

    I still play SWG today (been playing since launch) and still find the game alot of fun.  Even after the changes, SWG still has alot of stuff that other MMO's on the market don't come close to.  There is a free trial at www.tryswg.com that will give you a brief introduction to the game and give you a feel of how it works.

    Also, to those that haven't caught up yet, the twitch combat is no longer the only choice available to you.  You now have the option of target lock and autofire (pre-nge type combat) as well as the twitch combat.  You can even go halfway between the two.

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  • zlajavizlajavi Member Posts: 8
    Also, to those that haven't caught up yet, the twitch combat is no longer the only choice available to you. You now have the option of target lock and autofire (pre-nge type combat) as well as the twitch combat. You can even go halfway between the two.
    ==================================================
    YAY, you now have option of target lock and autofire!!! i'm getting back to my good old teras kasi/swordsman, OH, wait, there is no teras kasi or swordsman anymore, right? oh, well, i'll go back to all the nice and chatty people i met, always willing to help, or just plain chat for fun... oh, wait, they also left the game? LOL, the reason they still havent reroled SWG is that some people, like you are still playing it!

    let me see:
    proffesions you are now able to have in SWG/NGE (make just 1 choice):
    Spy
    Entertainer
    Trader
    Medic
    Officer
    Smuggler
    Commando
    Bounty Hunter (who doesn't really do bounty hunting)
    Jedi

    Profesions in original SWG, and SWG/CU:
    Entertainer
    Image Designer
    Musician
    Dancer
    Artisan
    Weaponcrafter
    Armorcrafter
    Arhitect
    Droid Engineer
    Shipwright (added with Jump TO lightspeed)
    Pilot (3 different types. added with JTL)
    Chef
    Tailor
    Merchant
    Brawler
    Teras Kasi
    Swordsman
    Fencer
    Pikeman
    Marksman
    Rifleman
    Carabineer
    Pistoleer
    Commando
    Bounty Hunter
    Smuggler
    Medic
    Combat medic
    Doctor
    Bio-engineer
    Scout
    Ranger
    Politician (if you wanna have player run town, you need to have politician)
    Jedi (if you really put in lotsa of hard work to become one)
    I most probably even missed some proffesions, since i stopped playing bit after CU came, and came back, just in time to see NGE (biggest mistake i ever made)...

    Also, difference is that before CU, you didn't have levels, and you could mix any proffesions you feel like mixing, as long as you don't go over preset 250 skill points you can spend on skills... if you get bored, you could drop some skills and learn other ones... i ussually changed all of my skills once a month to something new, untill i finnaly settled with teras kasi/bounty hunter, so i can hunt Jedi... Player jedi, which was the best fun i had in games ever.

    now (NGE), you choose your class right away, stick to it, level it, and pvp is on the "OMG a commando, run for the hills" basis... unless you are spy, but even than, it's on "OMG a BH, run for the hills" basis...

    Maybe it's not really a bad game for someone who starts it now, but compared to what have it been, super mario bros looks really SUPERb....

  • ObraikObraik Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 7,261


    Originally posted by zlajavi
    Also, to those that haven't caught up yet, the twitch combat is no longer the only choice available to you. You now have the option of target lock and autofire (pre-nge type combat) as well as the twitch combat. You can even go halfway between the two. ================================================== YAY, you now have option of target lock and autofire!!! i'm getting back to my good old teras kasi/swordsman, OH, wait, there is no teras kasi or swordsman anymore, right? oh, well, i'll go back to all the nice and chatty people i met, always willing to help, or just plain chat for fun... oh, wait, they also left the game? LOL, the reason they still havent reroled SWG is that some people, like you are still playing it! let me see: proffesions you are now able to have in SWG/NGE (make just 1 choice): Spy Entertainer Trader Medic Officer Smuggler Commando Bounty Hunter (who doesn't really do bounty hunting) Jedi Profesions in original SWG, and SWG/CU: Entertainer Image Designer Musician Dancer Artisan Weaponcrafter Armorcrafter Arhitect Droid Engineer Shipwright (added with Jump TO lightspeed) Pilot (3 different types. added with JTL) Chef Tailor Merchant Brawler Teras Kasi Swordsman Fencer Pikeman Marksman Rifleman Carabineer Pistoleer Commando Bounty Hunter Smuggler Medic Combat medic Doctor Bio-engineer Scout Ranger Politician (if you wanna have player run town, you need to have politician) Jedi (if you really put in lotsa of hard work to become one) I most probably even missed some proffesions, since i stopped playing bit after CU came, and came back, just in time to see NGE (biggest mistake i ever made)... Also, difference is that before CU, you didn't have levels, and you could mix any proffesions you feel like mixing, as long as you don't go over preset 250 skill points you can spend on skills... if you get bored, you could drop some skills and learn other ones... i ussually changed all of my skills once a month to something new, untill i finnaly settled with teras kasi/bounty hunter, so i can hunt Jedi... Player jedi, which was the best fun i had in games ever. now (NGE), you choose your class right away, stick to it, level it, and pvp is on the "OMG a commando, run for the hills" basis... unless you are spy, but even than, it's on "OMG a BH, run for the hills" basis... Maybe it's not really a bad game for someone who starts it now, but compared to what have it been, super mario bros looks really SUPERb....

    Attack that post with the Enter key and I might have a go at reading it :P

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  • zlajavizlajavi Member Posts: 8
    sad, but true, i did press enter after every proffesion, but i have no idea why it is displayed this way :)
  • MMO_ManMMO_Man Member Posts: 666


    Originally posted by zlajavi
    sad, but true, i did press enter after every proffesion, but i have no idea why it is displayed this way :)

    That's because the enter key has been nerfed.

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  • rex00rex00 Member Posts: 2
    IMO the game has been ruined, last time I played it their are hundreds of bugs, not to mention now that they have jedi as a starter class the majority of players choose them. I think it is a dying game, but thier is a free free trial if you want to bask in it's failure.
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