Originally posted by A-l-a-r-i-c duh.. The game rocks, havent seen ONE negative part of it yet.. Only hope the stealth part take disstance form that nasty game "world of warcraft"'s rogue abilities like the "Vanish" skill etc.. From watching this special "Character Creating,Off Mount/On Mount and siege war" Video i cant get my errection down.. : http://media.pc.ign.com/media/743/743392/vid_1513724.htm l
Now if only any of that was PvP. That's what I'm waiting to see. Nothing in that video really "impressed" me. When they unveil the PvP I'll be in the same "no need for Viagra" position.
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In guess my exp with mmo`s being whacked by there dev team at a later date hasn't really affected me ..I played DDO in beta & for about 60 days after release before I became bored ...I just recently came back after the latest exp & I have to say they have improved the game a bunch ..is it perfect ..that would be a NO is it better that would be a yes ...
I played EQ2 at launch and hated it ...they changed it & its much better still not as good as it could be but they did improve it IMHO ...
who knows what the WOW exp will do to that game but I will check it out ..
the single player aspect of this game is different but I will buy the game & play it before deciding if its a good great or D&L nosebleed....
I still don't see mounting working very well or being very effective in a group setting. You get to attack once every run through, and that's if you hit the mob. Group exping will probably all be off the horse. As long as they can make grinding fun, then I'm fine with it. But AO doesn't convince me that FC has it down yet. We'll see, but i'm still very sceptical.
Originally posted by Kungfubar I still don't see mounting working very well or being very effective in a group setting. You get to attack once every run through, and that's if you hit the mob. Group exping will probably all be off the horse. As long as they can make grinding fun, then I'm fine with it. But AO doesn't convince me that FC has it down yet. We'll see, but i'm still very sceptical.
The fastest and easiest way to take down a group of infantry not equipped with polearms is and will always remain hitting them with a cavalry formation. Even if you miss with your weapon, they get knocked down and trampled.
If you will recall, when the GM did hit the enemy from the horse at a gallop, the NPC almost always died after that one hit, remember that speed and mass both increase the damage dramatically.
Additionally, exping is far from the only group activity available here.
No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main. any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind, and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee. Hemingway
Originally posted by Kungfubar First I want to say the game looks great, and it sounds like it'll be a lot of fun. But after watching the demo video and how things get implimented from the single player part to the MMO part, has me a little sceptical. Seems like some of the things won't work in MMO that are part of the single player.
Originally posted by Aelfinn Originally posted by Kungfubar I still don't see mounting working very well or being very effective in a group setting. You get to attack once every run through, and that's if you hit the mob. Group exping will probably all be off the horse. As long as they can make grinding fun, then I'm fine with it. But AO doesn't convince me that FC has it down yet. We'll see, but i'm still very sceptical.
The fastest and easiest way to take down a group of infantry not equipped with polearms is and will always remain hitting them with a cavalry formation. Even if you miss with your weapon, they get knocked down and trampled.
If you will recall, when the GM did hit the enemy from the horse at a gallop, the NPC almost always died after that one hit, remember that speed and mass both increase the damage dramatically.
Additionally, exping is far from the only group activity available here.
I can see how that fits into PvE, but would you seriously want to be on foot if you knew you were going to get knocked over by an enemy on a horse as a player? What would the advantage to being on foot be? It seems like if you didn't have a horse, you would just get trampled constantly.
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Originally posted by Kungfubar I still don't see mounting working very well or being very effective in a group setting. You get to attack once every run through, and that's if you hit the mob. Group exping will probably all be off the horse. As long as they can make grinding fun, then I'm fine with it. But AO doesn't convince me that FC has it down yet. We'll see, but i'm still very sceptical.
The fastest and easiest way to take down a group of infantry not equipped with polearms is and will always remain hitting them with a cavalry formation. Even if you miss with your weapon, they get knocked down and trampled.
If you will recall, when the GM did hit the enemy from the horse at a gallop, the NPC almost always died after that one hit, remember that speed and mass both increase the damage dramatically.
Additionally, exping is far from the only group activity available here.
I can see how that fits into PvE, but would you seriously want to be on foot if you knew you were going to get knocked over by an enemy on a horse as a player? What would the advantage to being on foot be? It seems like if you didn't have a horse, you would just get trampled constantly.
Option one: get out a damn ranged weapon and shoot the bastard. Every single class has access to some form of ranged combat, they may suck at it, but still.
Option two: get to where the horseman can't get to you without dismounting, works well with option one
Option three: take out the horse, a pike or spear is quite effective for this.
No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main. any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind, and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee. Hemingway
I can see how that fits into PvE, but would you seriously want to be on foot if you knew you were going to get knocked over by an enemy on a horse as a player? What would the advantage to being on foot be? It seems like if you didn't have a horse, you would just get trampled constantly. unless u had a pike/spear... its good to have some weapons effective against other, mixing up the game play and emphasising on tactics, ud have to shuffle your troops into proper position in order to maximize their effectiveness and try to counter enemy counter-shufle who will try to send troops most effective against your troops.. and so on so on. Thats how good battle goes on, something like in Civ4, just mass building one or two type of troops (classic tank-healer-nuker) just doesnt pay off. If they have anything like this, im sold!
I am the type of player where I like to do everything and anything from time to time.
Originally posted by jimmyman99 Originally posted by checkthis500
I can see how that fits into PvE, but would you seriously want to be on foot if you knew you were going to get knocked over by an enemy on a horse as a player? What would the advantage to being on foot be? It seems like if you didn't have a horse, you would just get trampled constantly. unless u had a pike/spear... its good to have some weapons effective against other, mixing up the game play and emphasising on tactics, ud have to shuffle your troops into proper position in order to maximize their effectiveness and try to counter enemy counter-shufle who will try to send troops most effective against your troops.. and so on so on. Thats how good battle goes on, something like in Civ4, just mass building one or two type of troops (classic tank-healer-nuker) just doesnt pay off. If they have anything like this, im sold! So the only way to combat a guy on horseback is to have a pike or spear? That sounds pretty unbalanced.
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not not the ONLY way, just the most efficiant way... at least thats how I imagine it. Dont forget, the game is not in open beta yet, and since admitting to being in beta is against EULA, anything we say here (unless properly authorized by game developers) is our hopes, dreams, wishes and ideas... basicaly speaking speculation.
What i was illustrating was my thought based on checkthis500's post, which in turn was based on AoC video preview.
I am the type of player where I like to do everything and anything from time to time.
Originally posted by Kungfubar First I want to say the game looks great, and it sounds like it'll be a lot of fun. But after watching the demo video and how things get implimented from the single player part to the MMO part, has me a little sceptical. Seems like some of the things won't work in MMO that are part of the single player.
i can definetly say that i am skeptical of this game. not so much of the single player version and how it melds into multiplayer. i think it has more to do with being let down by many crap titles this industry has produced. that looked great and promising to me. then you buy the game play it, and 2 months later you try to scam the old lady working at the wal-mart returns counter to refund you the money for this bad game.
AoC definetly falls into my category of games that look great, promising, and maybe ground breaking. thats why i am skeptical. my own poor judgement in gaming!
I'm too lazy to read all the new posts on this one. So you people go ahead and bitch about whatever you want to. The game will still be as good or bad as it was meant to be upon release...
Played Wow, D and L, AOC, GW, Eve, Rift and many more insignificant games.
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I live to fight, and fight to live.
In guess my exp with mmo`s being whacked by there dev team at a later date hasn't really affected me ..I played DDO in beta & for about 60 days after release before I became bored ...I just recently came back after the latest exp & I have to say they have improved the game a bunch ..is it perfect ..that would be a NO is it better that would be a yes ...
I played EQ2 at launch and hated it ...they changed it & its much better still not as good as it could be but they did improve it IMHO ...
who knows what the WOW exp will do to that game but I will check it out ..
the single player aspect of this game is different but I will buy the game & play it before deciding if its a good great or D&L nosebleed....
I still don't see mounting working very well or being very effective in a group setting. You get to attack once every run through, and that's if you hit the mob. Group exping will probably all be off the horse. As long as they can make grinding fun, then I'm fine with it. But AO doesn't convince me that FC has it down yet. We'll see, but i'm still very sceptical.
The fastest and easiest way to take down a group of infantry not equipped with polearms is and will always remain hitting them with a cavalry formation. Even if you miss with your weapon, they get knocked down and trampled.
If you will recall, when the GM did hit the enemy from the horse at a gallop, the NPC almost always died after that one hit, remember that speed and mass both increase the damage dramatically.
Additionally, exping is far from the only group activity available here.
No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main. any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind, and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee.
Hemingway
The fastest and easiest way to take down a group of infantry not equipped with polearms is and will always remain hitting them with a cavalry formation. Even if you miss with your weapon, they get knocked down and trampled.
If you will recall, when the GM did hit the enemy from the horse at a gallop, the NPC almost always died after that one hit, remember that speed and mass both increase the damage dramatically.
Additionally, exping is far from the only group activity available here.
I can see how that fits into PvE, but would you seriously want to be on foot if you knew you were going to get knocked over by an enemy on a horse as a player? What would the advantage to being on foot be? It seems like if you didn't have a horse, you would just get trampled constantly.
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I live to fight, and fight to live.
The fastest and easiest way to take down a group of infantry not equipped with polearms is and will always remain hitting them with a cavalry formation. Even if you miss with your weapon, they get knocked down and trampled.
If you will recall, when the GM did hit the enemy from the horse at a gallop, the NPC almost always died after that one hit, remember that speed and mass both increase the damage dramatically.
Additionally, exping is far from the only group activity available here.
I can see how that fits into PvE, but would you seriously want to be on foot if you knew you were going to get knocked over by an enemy on a horse as a player? What would the advantage to being on foot be? It seems like if you didn't have a horse, you would just get trampled constantly.
Option one: get out a damn ranged weapon and shoot the bastard. Every single class has access to some form of ranged combat, they may suck at it, but still.
Option two: get to where the horseman can't get to you without dismounting, works well with option one
Option three: take out the horse, a pike or spear is quite effective for this.
No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main. any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind, and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee.
Hemingway
seriously want to be on foot if you knew you were going to get knocked
over by an enemy on a horse as a player? What would the advantage
to being on foot be? It seems like if you didn't have a horse,
you would just get trampled constantly.
unless
u had a pike/spear... its good to have some weapons effective against
other, mixing up the game play and emphasising on tactics, ud have to
shuffle your troops into proper position in order to maximize their
effectiveness and try to counter enemy counter-shufle who will try to
send troops most effective against your troops.. and so on so on. Thats
how good battle goes on, something like in Civ4, just mass building one
or two type of troops (classic tank-healer-nuker) just doesnt pay off.
If they have anything like this, im sold!
I am the type of player where I like to do everything and anything from time to time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor - pre-WW2 genocide.
unless u had a pike/spear... its good to have some weapons effective against other, mixing up the game play and emphasising on tactics, ud have to shuffle your troops into proper position in order to maximize their effectiveness and try to counter enemy counter-shufle who will try to send troops most effective against your troops.. and so on so on. Thats how good battle goes on, something like in Civ4, just mass building one or two type of troops (classic tank-healer-nuker) just doesnt pay off. If they have anything like this, im sold!
So the only way to combat a guy on horseback is to have a pike or spear? That sounds pretty unbalanced.
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I live to fight, and fight to live.
I imagine it. Dont forget, the game is not in open beta yet, and since
admitting to being in beta is against EULA, anything we say here
(unless properly authorized by game developers) is our hopes, dreams,
wishes and ideas... basicaly speaking speculation.
What i was illustrating was my thought based on checkthis500's post, which in turn was based on AoC video preview.
I am the type of player where I like to do everything and anything from time to time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor - pre-WW2 genocide.
Played Wow, D and L, AOC, GW, Eve, Rift and many more insignificant games.
i can definetly say that i am skeptical of this game. not so much of the single player version and how it melds into multiplayer. i think it has more to do with being let down by many crap titles this industry has produced. that looked great and promising to me. then you buy the game play it, and 2 months later you try to scam the old lady working at the wal-mart returns counter to refund you the money for this bad game.
AoC definetly falls into my category of games that look great, promising, and maybe ground breaking. thats why i am skeptical. my own poor judgement in gaming!
Played Wow, D and L, AOC, GW, Eve, Rift and many more insignificant games.