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ray12kray12k Member UncommonPosts: 487
Well i have not played this game yet hehe. But from the videos i have seen on youtube, the combat system looks like a copy of a free korean mmorpg. The rest of the game looks good, but I don't know if i can stand crappy pvm. After i play the beta i will update this post.
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  • CopelandCopeland Member Posts: 1,955

    After you play the beta and update this post you'll promptly be removed from beta and have a 15 day suspension to this website for breaking the NDA.. LOL dippy.

  • ray12kray12k Member UncommonPosts: 487


    Originally posted by Copeland

    After you play the beta and update this post you'll promptly be removed from beta and have a 15 day suspension to this website for breaking the NDA.. LOL dippy.


    doubt it I will most likely be in the open beta when the nda is over. If a 15 day suspension will help fellow gamers out im willing to bite the bullet.
  • CopelandCopeland Member Posts: 1,955

    Originally posted by ray12k

    Originally posted by Copeland
    After you play the beta and update this post you'll promptly be removed from beta and have a 15 day suspension to this website for breaking the NDA.. LOL dippy.
    doubt it I will most likely be in the open beta when the nda is over. If a 15 day suspension will help fellow gamers out im willing to bite the bullet.

    Good luck with that.


    *post 1000* i am now uber! LOL

  • SpiritofGameSpiritofGame Member UncommonPosts: 1,332


    Originally posted by ray12k
    Well i have not played this game yet hehe. But....


    But ... that sure in hell won't stop you from offering up your heaping pile of crap opinion even though you don't know jack about it.

    Kthxbye.

    ~ Ancient Membership ~

  • ray12kray12k Member UncommonPosts: 487


    Originally posted by SpiritofGame

    Originally posted by ray12k
    Well i have not played this game yet hehe. But....


    But ... that sure in hell won't stop you from offering up your heaping pile of crap opinion even though you don't know jack about it.

    Kthxbye.


    WHAT ARE YOU CRYING ABOUT LOOK AT THE COMBAT VIDEO'S. THE COMBAT IS BORING AND LOOKS LIKE MOST FREE KOREAN GAMES. THIS IS A FACT. As I said the rest of the game looks good but I don't know if that will be enough. The pvm is just a copy of korean style grinding.
  • krenalorkrenalor Member Posts: 214


    Originally posted by ray12k

    Originally posted by SpiritofGame

    Originally posted by ray12k
    Well i have not played this game yet hehe. But....


    But ... that sure in hell won't stop you from offering up your heaping pile of crap opinion even though you don't know jack about it.

    Kthxbye.


    WHAT ARE YOU CRYING ABOUT LOOK AT THE COMBAT VIDEO'S. THE COMBAT IS BORING AND LOOKS LIKE MOST FREE KOREAN GAMES. THIS IS A FACT. As I said the rest of the game looks good but I don't know if that will be enough. The pvm is just a copy of korean style grinding.



    Let me spell it out. These crybaby fanbois whine and cry anytime their whole life (Vanguard will be their ENTIRE life) gets a valid critism leveled against this crappy game. It will have a piss poor player base, and Brad is desperately doing everything he can to get any kind of base to even think about this crappy game. He is lying to the casuals that they will have any fun, and not just be the butt of jokes by the raiders. He is lying to group players that grouping will be more then treadmill leveling to....raiding or see "casual" for what you game experience will be. Just include a valid complaint against SOE and you will get "they won't have anything involved game wise". WELL LET ME REPEAT:

    FOOL ME ONCE SHAME ON YOU, FOOL ME TWICE SHAME ON ME!

    Brad sold out his players once, he isn't getting a second chance. He made a game that was raider only, no second chances. He should have fixed his first game, not sold out.

    Remember if you play WoW, or you are a non-hardcore player, the Vanguard players have stated "we don't want you". Take the hint and avoid this turd.

  • baphametbaphamet Member RarePosts: 3,311


    Originally posted by ray12k

    WHAT ARE YOU CRYING ABOUT LOOK AT THE COMBAT VIDEO'S. THE COMBAT IS BORING AND LOOKS LIKE MOST FREE KOREAN GAMES. THIS IS A FACT. .

    the only "fact" is that you are wrong in thinking your opinion is anything more than....an opinion.

  • redavniredavni Member Posts: 72


    Originally posted by ray12k
    ...from the videos i have seen on youtube, the combat system looks like a copy of a free korean mmorpg.


    I don't think the video's do the combat system justice. Have you read the info released on the combat system yet? I'm pretty exited about the system they are planning on implementing.
  • baphametbaphamet Member RarePosts: 3,311


    Originally posted by krenalor

    Let me spell it out. These crybaby fanbois whine and cry anytime their whole life (Vanguard will be their ENTIRE life) gets a valid critism leveled against this crappy game.


    you do a hell of alot more whining and crying than any fanboi i have ever seen in any game, period. how can you sit up there and talk about people crying when thats all you ever do in any post you make?

    your ENTIRE LIFE is obviously full of insulting people and disappointment because a game isn't being made just for you...yeah your a real freaking winner! ::::20::

    vanguard players are not made up of the few trolls on the vanguard forums, even though thats a concept i know you do not understand. in your world everyone is a stereo type, everything is a generalization.

    keep believing that garbage you write because you are butthurt over brad not making your eq warrior the way you wanted.....::::16::::::16::::::16::


  • sublime4u200sublime4u200 Member Posts: 9


    Originally posted by redavni

    Originally posted by ray12k
    ...from the videos i have seen on youtube, the combat system looks like a copy of a free korean mmorpg.

    I don't think the video's do the combat system justice. Have you read the info released on the combat system yet? I'm pretty exited about the system they are planning on implementing.


    I have to agree I have read about it and am pretty excited.  And those videos on Youtube aren't that bad first of all and 2nd of all aren't the only ones out there have a look around and research for yourself it's the only way to form you OWN informed opinoin. 
  • jimmyman99jimmyman99 Member UncommonPosts: 3,221
    Judging combat by videos for a game that is in closed beta is like pissing against the wind. Cmon guys, be serious for a second, you dont judge a car by its paint color, right? At best, you could judge the quality of graphics or the animation, but considering this game is still in closed beta, anything you say is just your opinion based on something that may not be tommorow. 

    I am the type of player where I like to do everything and anything from time to time.
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  • anarchyartanarchyart Member Posts: 5,378


    Originally posted by jimmyman99 
    Cmon guys, be serious for a second, you dont judge a car by its paint color, right?

    I totally do. Yellow cars suck, same with beige.

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  • grinreapergrinreaper Member Posts: 507

    When I was 8...I thought the GI JOE Headquarters looked super cool on TV. Then I got it for Xmas and it sucked. I learned a valuable lesson that day...watching a video may not give you the whole picture!

    Take my wisdom to heart, my son.

  • DimitrioDimitrio Member UncommonPosts: 152


    Originally posted by baphamet


    Originally posted by ray12k



    WHAT ARE YOU CRYING ABOUT LOOK AT THE COMBAT VIDEO'S. THE COMBAT IS BORING AND LOOKS LIKE MOST FREE KOREAN GAMES. THIS IS A FACT. .

    the only "fact" is that you are wrong in thinking your opinion is anything more than....an opinion.


    I think there are  huge group of peeps pissed because some magazines called Vanguard: the  wow killer, and now is already above that, Vanguard: the most ambitous MMO ever!!!.

    Dimitrio Darkblade
    Founder Leader of Vitae Essentia
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  • wyzwunwyzwun Member Posts: 328


    Originally posted by baphamet


    Originally posted by krenalor


    Let me spell it out. These crybaby fanbois whine and cry anytime their whole life (Vanguard will be their ENTIRE life) gets a valid critism leveled against this crappy game.

    you do a hell of alot more whining and crying than any fanboi i have ever seen in any game, period.

    This should be easy, since your one of the ring leaders of the fanboi crew of VG-mmorpg.com. o yea, period. because me saying period at the end of my "point" just makes it even more valid...

    What i think is sad, its that the fanboys have a great home over at the VG forums... why come here? i mean i come to mmorpg.com because, IDK, im interested in the genre as a whole... like i said make your own community forums if you cant stand people being honest... i mean he could take a better route maybe but really.

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  • wyzwunwyzwun Member Posts: 328


    Originally posted by jimmyman99
    Judging combat by videos for a game that is in closed beta is like pissing against the wind. Cmon guys, be serious for a second, you dont judge a car by its paint color, right? At best, you could judge the quality of graphics or the animation, but considering this game is still in closed beta, anything you say is just your opinion based on something that may not be tommorow. 


    My issue with the combat is its not different from games like FFXI. IVe seen all i need in order to say that.

    Thats my major problem, there are other issues but as a gamer who has full motor skills (WHICH IS REALLY RARE ON THIS AND OTHER MMO FORUMS IT WOULD SEEM.) I dont want to play a game that a cripple would excel at...

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  • TrubadurenTrubaduren Member Posts: 575
    Why the ****** do you even care to make this post?

    Starwars Galaxies, An Empier Diveded, That's what it says on my box anyway.

  • baphametbaphamet Member RarePosts: 3,311


    Originally posted by wyzwun

    This should be easy, since your one of the ring leaders of the fanboi crew of VG-mmorpg.com. o yea, period. because me saying period at the end of my "point" just makes it even more valid...
    What i think is sad, its that the fanboys have a great home over at the VG forums... why come here? i mean i come to mmorpg.com because, IDK, im interested in the genre as a whole... like i said make your own community forums if you cant stand people being honest... i mean he could take a better route maybe but really.


    LOL me? a ring leader? hahaha that is quite funny. i spend like 80% of my time here as apposed to the OVF, why? because i like to hear objective opinions and different point of views, i also like alot of different games not just vanguard.

    the problem isn't what he says its how he says it, i cant stand him because of his generalizations and insults he posts every time.

    i know i have explained this to you before, if someone cant have a civilized discussion without stereotyping people or insulting them then i don't want any part of it, but i will call you out on it.

    if you disagree with my point of view that is fine, but when people come here and post ridiculous stuff full of insults and generalizations for no other reason other than to draw attention to themselves then yeah, i have a problem with that.

    there is a forum for that type of stuff, its called fohguild.org...if i wanted to get into huge name calling wars i would go there.


    if you cant stand people being honest...

    i was being honest in my reply to his post, again its not what he said its how he says it. and he has made it quite apparent that he is mad because his eq warrior wasn't the way he felt it should have been.

    to quote you, that is as "emo" as it gets on these boards....and the irony is he is calling vanguard fans "cry baby's". so if you have a problem with me speaking the truth (at least in my mind) and calling him out on that, then feel free to take your own advice and "make your own community forums if you cant stand people being honest... "

    p.s please lets not start another flame war where posts just get deleted, if you reply with pointless insults i will not be replying, just fair warning.


  • baphametbaphamet Member RarePosts: 3,311


    Originally posted by wyzwun


    My issue with the combat is its not different from games like FFXI. IVe seen all i need in order to say that.
    Thats my major problem, there are other issues but as a gamer who has full motor skills (WHICH IS REALLY RARE ON THIS AND OTHER MMO FORUMS IT WOULD SEEM.) I dont want to play a game that a cripple would excel at...


    may i ask what mmorpg's have you played and thought had a good combat system? personally i would love a in depth mmog with great twitch combat but i have not yet seen it.

    the game that got me hooked to mmorpg's was eq1 and yeah....i did not play it for over 3 years because it had good combat system that is for sure.

    i loved it because of the rpg aspect and the community, it was the first online game to remind me on my pnp D&D days, it felt like D&D put into a online world simulation at the time and i loved it.

    thats why the combat isn't as big of a factor for me in vanguard, but i do understand if people like you don't like it. i will say i am alot more worried about vanguards animations than the combat it self...the creature animations i have seen don't look much different than some of the old eq1 animations, that needs to change IMHO.


  • ray12kray12k Member UncommonPosts: 487

    Have you seen the videos released by the devs? The combat is boring it’s a copy of most free Korean mmorpg's. If they are trying to release a next gen game they should improve the combat system. All im saying is this game seems like it is using the old click wait for mob to die and grind some more system. If they don’t add more excitement into the combat system this game will flop like d & l..


  • TrubadurenTrubaduren Member Posts: 575


    Originally posted by ray12k

    Have you seen the videos released by the devs? The combat is boring it’s a copy of most free Korean mmorpg's. If they are trying to release a next gen game they should improve the combat system. All im saying is this game seems like it is using the old click wait for mob to die and grind some more system. If they don’t add more excitement into the combat system this game will flop like d & l..







    Animations hasent been really completed yet though, What I've heard is that combat will be like eq2?

    Besides stop judge the game if you havent played it. God theres to much retards around.

    Starwars Galaxies, An Empier Diveded, That's what it says on my box anyway.

  • ste2000ste2000 Member EpicPosts: 6,194
    Personally i don't give a shit if the combat system suxx.

    For me MMORPG are about comunity, content and immersion, then if the combat is amazing that would be a plus.

    Also I would invite people who is complaining about Vanguard combat system to make a list of the games where combat is amazing.
    The only game who might have an innovative combat system is God & Heroes from the videos I ve seen, but i will have to play beta to verify it.

  • redavniredavni Member Posts: 72
    Here is one guy's very detailed account of the Vanguard's combat system.


  • baphametbaphamet Member RarePosts: 3,311


    Originally posted by ray12k
    Have you seen the videos released by the devs? The combat is boring it’s a copy of most free Korean mmorpg's. If they are trying to release a next gen game they should improve the combat system. All im saying is this game seems like it is using the old click wait for mob to die and grind some more system. If they don’t add more excitement into the combat system this game will flop like d & l..

    rofl so if the combat system isn't the way you think it should be its going to flop like dark and light? no offense but that is one of the most unrealistic posts i have ever read about the combat system, ever.

    yeah you may not like the combat system but if its not a fast twitch system its not going to make the game flop, everyone has a good idea what the combat is going to be like and yet people are still interested in the game.

    also using your logic every single mmorpg to date should have flopped like dark and light, all I'm saying is you might want to actually think before you type. ::::18::

  • MrAzgaardMrAzgaard Member Posts: 36
    Well lets hope they do the crafting more fun then the rest of the games out there, WoW crafting = joke, EQ2 Crafting = Destroyd, SWG crafting where the best untill. yeah u heard it NGE.

    *oh did i mention that i love crafting*

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