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New anti-Bush movie rivals Fahrenheit 911

The producer of this outstanding movie has put it on the web for maximum exposure.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1016720641536424083

Michael Moore, you have some competition now!

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  • GorukhaGorukha Member Posts: 1,441
    This drivel is a bit too late I think :)

    It's better be hated for who you are, than loved for who you aren't.
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  • InflictionInfliction Member Posts: 1,115
    Good information, definately worth watching, but I agree with Gorukha, wee bit late for this info.

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  • viadiviadi Member Posts: 816

    worth watching

    but i add this i dont agree its never too late to learn a new, or indeed old lesson.

    Tin Foil hats dont work.. its all a conspiracy

  • honzolohonzolo Member Posts: 321
    /yawn
  • noname12345noname12345 Member Posts: 2,267

    That was a great movie.

    I guess Honzolo doesn't care for a real and unbiased investigation....that's really American. You're such a disgrace to the families of 9/11. Is your allegiance with the government or the American people?

    I don't think you can compare this movie to Moore's movie. If my memory is correct, some of those Jersey Girls are Bush voters and I know one of them is Republican. So this isn't a right vs left issue, it's just an issue of right vs wrong. The Jersey Girls were one of the reasons why there was an investigation at all, so you guys should thank them. Unfortunately the investigation was not transparent, thorough, or unbiased as proven in the movie. Bush and Cheney didn't even want one, that's huge red flag right there.

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  • qotsaqotsa Member UncommonPosts: 835
    Moore movies are crap filled lies. He needs to go back home to France if he hates America so badly.

  • EnigmaEnigma Member UncommonPosts: 11,384


    Originally posted by qotsa
    Moore movies are crap filled lies. He needs to go back home to France if he hates America so badly.


    Aye, I can't stand Moore.

    He needs to take a bath, shave, and actually tell the truth once in a while.

    Personally, I can't stand anti-crap "documentaries."  I didn't like the anti-clinton ones and I dont like the anti-Bush ones either.

    Call it what it is. It isn't a documentary.  It should be called persuasive entertainment.  I can't stand hatemongers. They give me ass rashes.

    People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.

  • noname12345noname12345 Member Posts: 2,267

    This documentary just takes all the media lies along with the nuggets of truth and puts it all together and shows you a larger picture. This isn't hatemongering. I bet you didn't even watch it.

    http://cooperativeresearch.org/project.jsp?project=911_project
    The movie goes over this database and interviews the man who made it. It've very useful because you can piece together a lot of interesting stories that alone aren't seemingly important, this movie helps you do just that.

    Hatemongering my ass...

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  • EnigmaEnigma Member UncommonPosts: 11,384

    I did watch it.....well......30 some minutes of it anyways.

    It pretty much sounded like fearmonger, cover up conspiracy stuff to me.

    Let's blame everyone but the terrorists who actually killed them....yeah...the US government placed explosives at the base of the towers and another building to blow them up, killing thousand. (12:52)  

    For the other folk here is a scientific reason of why the towers fell:

    Link 1                         Link 6

    Link 2                         Link 7

    Link 3                         Link 8

    Link 4                         Link 9

    Link 5                         Link 10

    I'm done with this thread.

    People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.

  • InflictionInfliction Member Posts: 1,115


    Originally posted by Enigma

    I did watch it.....well......30 some minutes of it anyways.
    It pretty much sounded like fearmonger, cover up conspiracy stuff to me.
    Let's blame everyone but the terrorists who actually killed them....yeah...the US government placed explosives at the base of the towers and another building to blow them up, killing thousand. (12:52)  
    For the other folk here is a scientific reason of why the towers fell:
    Link 1                         Link 6
    Link 2                         Link 7
    Link 3                         Link 8
    Link 4                         Link 9
    Link 5                         Link 10
    I'm done with this thread.


    Yeah you definately didn't watch it. This video didn't at all address the conspiracy theories as to why the buildings fell. It was about the government's reaction to its falling.

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  • noname12345noname12345 Member Posts: 2,267
    This documentary isn't about why the buildings fell or really anything regarding physical anomalies. It mentions them in the first 30 minutes maybe, but it doesn't go into real detail. The real meat of the documentary is after the part you watched. The documentary shows all the failures of the 9/11 Commission and the government. It's stuff that no other documentary really talks about. Our government didn't want an investigation and when they set it up, they set it up to fail. Bush administration certainly didn't make it easy for the commission, until we pressured our president some more to give a goddamn interview...but he did it off camera in private. He was covering up 9/11. That's the bottom line.

    You can say it's all been explained but there are videos, voice recordings, and classified documents that we have never seen.

    Maybe we should fear our government, maybe we should expect our government to cover stuff up. You're so naive to think they want the best for us. Maybe you should look into the agenda of "Neocons", that's what we have controlling this country.

    Because you trust our government, it makes it harder for us (including 9/11 families) to put pressure on the government to release information. We need everyone to put pressure on them. Don't you want a transparent government? Just recently they released a video supposedly from 9/11 that was at a gas station near the Pentagon. Did it show anything? Absolutely not. They instead insult our intelligence....again.

    http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/Longsought_911_videotape_didnt_capture_attack_0915.html

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  • lardmouthlardmouth Member Posts: 701
    By "rival", do you mean full of even more paranoia?
  • noname12345noname12345 Member Posts: 2,267


    Originally posted by lardmouth

    http://debunking911.com/meeting.htm


    The first three of those pictures are just strawmen arguments. It's theories about what happened but not really anything CT's believe as absolute fact. the 4th one is hard to say because the government you love so much won't release the tapes after 5 years with constant pressure...Of course they aren't hiding anything right Lardmouth? No, this is just procrastination i'm sure....They're sooo busy after all that going into the back room for one of the 80+ tapes is just overwhelming.

    The next 3 pics are true. The oil is probably not why we went to Iraq, not the only reason at least. Finally the last is true, however with Lardmouth's astronomically low standards i'm sure he feels the government is a wonderful success. Thankfully Lardmouth is in the minority

    No matter how much anyone says to try and debunk our theories, the point still stands, the government is holding information back. It's a FACT. MANY Americans do not like this and they have a RIGHT to know exactly what happened. So with you mocking us, you are being very unpatriotic. I would say the "9/11 truth movement" are a group of more patriotic citizens by getting the government to answer question than you guys who mock us and defend the government....even though they haven't been straight with us.

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  • DraenorDraenor Member UncommonPosts: 7,918

    Didn't watch it...don't need to.

    If that origional poster is likening it to fahrenheit 911, well that's reason enough for me to pass.

    Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.

  • noname12345noname12345 Member Posts: 2,267


    Originally posted by Draenor

    Didn't watch it...don't need to.
    If that origional poster is likening it to fahrenheit 911, well that's reason enough for me to pass.


    Pffft. If you read my post I said it wasn't like fahrenheit at all. It's not a right vs left movie. I've seen both movies.

    You all have to understand that just because someone is conservative/Republican doesn't make them God where they can't do anything bad. This film doesn't attack conservative/Republican beliefs at all. Same goes for Liberals. Clinton did some pretty horrible things. If some films came out showing all of Clintons horrible acts then I would come right on and post it for all to see.

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  • honzolohonzolo Member Posts: 321


    Originally posted by AlexAmore

    That was a great movie.

    I guess Honzolo doesn't care for a real and unbiased investigation....that's really American. You're such a disgrace to the families of 9/11. Is your allegiance with the government or the American people?

    I don't think you can compare this movie to Moore's movie. If my memory is correct, some of those Jersey Girls are Bush voters and I know one of them is Republican. So this isn't a right vs left issue, it's just an issue of right vs wrong. The Jersey Girls were one of the reasons why there was an investigation at all, so you guys should thank them. Unfortunately the investigation was not transparent, thorough, or unbiased as proven in the movie. Bush and Cheney didn't even want one, that's huge red flag right there.


     What are you talking about Alex? I am a disgrace to the 9/11 families? LOL, what does that even mean?? Too funny.
  • daeandordaeandor Member UncommonPosts: 2,695
    Alex must have had his 18th birthday, he turned into an a-hole immediately after he felt he received some independance.

    I don't understand why you come here to argue this crap Alex.  The fact is that most of us capable of discrediting your drivel have written you off as a lost cause.  You base your 'facts' on fallicious logic schemes and internet journalists who search only for evidence to support their theory, yet never account for evidence that does not.  No I did not watch your POS movie yet, but that is irrelevant in the context of my post.


  • noname12345noname12345 Member Posts: 2,267


    Originally posted by honzolo 
     What are you talking about Alex? I am a disgrace to the 9/11 families? LOL, what does that even mean?? Too funny.


    People like you kept telling us that so I figured I throw it right back. The movie is all about the 9/11 families.

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  • noname12345noname12345 Member Posts: 2,267


    Originally posted by daeandor
    Alex must have had his 18th birthday, he turned into an a-hole immediately after he felt he received some independance.
    Yeah, i'm an a-hole because I want my government to release some harmless information.

    I don't understand why you come here to argue this crap Alex.  The fact is that most of us capable of discrediting your drivel have written you off as a lost cause.  You base your 'facts' on fallicious logic schemes and internet journalists who search only for evidence to support their theory, yet never account for evidence that does not.  No I did not watch your POS movie yet, but that is irrelevant in the context of my post.
    All my posts here have been about the 9/11 Commission and the government's lousy job of informing the citizens of everything regarding 9/11. If you can't understand that they are witholding information and video from us (which means covering up) then you are a lost cause. Thanks for ranting completely off-topic though.


    We're not arguing about every single theory. I'm here about the movie. The movie is not about or like Loose Change because it isn't about the theories regarding the physical aspects....yes it does mention them in the beginning but in a context that you must watch the movie to understand. The movie is about how the government did a crap job with the handling of post-9/11....Christ if you watched the movie then you wouldn't have to post this off topic BS.

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  • RyuukoGoRyuukoGo Member Posts: 235
    Is there a movie about the first attack when Clinton was President?   << rhetorical question
  • lardmouthlardmouth Member Posts: 701

    What do you mean the government did a crap job handeling the post 9-11 investigation?  We know what happened.  Al Qaida had planes hijacked and flown into targets.   We can see video of planes hitting the towers.  We can review photos of debris outsided of the pentagon.  And read what witnesses said they saw.  We've all seen Al Qaida admit to the plot multiple times.  Bin laden himself is on video meeting with some of the hijackers.  And, he's admitted it loud and clear on video.  Hell, a great deal of the muslim world believes he did it.  Even the one's that hate us believe he had the plot carried out.  They celebrate him for it.  AL Jazeera (not exactly FOX news!)  obtained many of these videos from AL Qaida directly. 

    Yet, the internet sooper-dooper slueths crank out another movie.   Many who have watched the horribly researched, poor science, bad journalistic videos of "how the towers were blown up" and how " a missle hit the Pentagon"  have grown suspicious of some folks critical thinking.  There will be no investigation good enough to satisfy you folks unless Bush is framed to look guilty of complicity in the acts.  We see this in the god awful excuses for investigation, such as Loose Change, you people post here.  Acting like your videos have caught the government red handed in blowing up the WTC and shooting a missle at the Pentagon.  And, it doesn't even phase you people when the lies are pointed out with scientific articles, scientific evidence, first hand testimony, photographic evidence, etc.   You people are crazier than a crap house mouse, or have an agenda to meet and you don't to care what propaganda you use to get there.

    You ct'ers are the sheeple in this.  You follow your Jones, Avery, Moore around with a cult like zealotry.   It doesn't matter,  the mountain of hard evidence against their charges.  Join the real world.

  • daeandordaeandor Member UncommonPosts: 2,695


    Originally posted by AlexAmore

    Originally posted by daeandor
    Alex must have had his 18th birthday, he turned into an a-hole immediately after he felt he received some independance.
    Yeah, i'm an a-hole because I want my government to release some harmless information.

    I don't understand why you come here to argue this crap Alex.  The fact is that most of us capable of discrediting your drivel have written you off as a lost cause.  You base your 'facts' on fallicious logic schemes and internet journalists who search only for evidence to support their theory, yet never account for evidence that does not.  No I did not watch your POS movie yet, but that is irrelevant in the context of my post.
    All my posts here have been about the 9/11 Commission and the government's lousy job of informing the citizens of everything regarding 9/11. If you can't understand that they are witholding information and video from us (which means covering up) then you are a lost cause. Thanks for ranting completely off-topic though.

    We're not arguing about every single theory. I'm here about the movie. The movie is not about or like Loose Change because it isn't about the theories regarding the physical aspects....yes it does mention them in the beginning but in a context that you must watch the movie to understand. The movie is about how the government did a crap job with the handling of post-9/11....Christ if you watched the movie then you wouldn't have to post this off topic BS.


    No, I don't need to watch it.  It is the same story time and again.  I was not talking about loose change.  I was talking about your information being based on convenient internet theory and the fact that you changed from trying to argue points to being an a-hole about it.  BTW, just because someone is witholding information does not equal covering up.  Like I have told you before many times, I do not know who poisoned your mind in your youth, but you have not learned much about true logic in life.  If A, then B, is not an argument.  It is a fallacy.  Your posts don't need to be taken in context with some lame video that compiles a nice list of errors, problems, whatnot, and only their corroborating evidence.  The day I see you post a video or quote / link that looks at ALL possibilities and supporting evidence, then maybe, just maybe, I will get off your back when it comes to this.
  • noname12345noname12345 Member Posts: 2,267


    Originally posted by lardmouth

    What do you mean the government did a crap job handeling the post 9-11 investigation?  We know what happened. 

    Al Qaida had planes hijacked and flown into targets.
    So why no video of the Pentagon?
    We can see video of planes hitting the towers.
    Nobody is refuting that. 
    We can review photos of debris outsided of the pentagon.
    Not good enough.
    And read what witnesses said they saw.
    You can bet your ass we would have seen it by now, if it happened as they said. Or they can be waiting for a bit, "Poison the well" some more and then release the tapes and make the movement look bad on that issue. Of course the movement doesn't dwell on the Pentagon but of course mainstream media will.
    We've all seen Al Qaida admit to the plot multiple times.
    If you watched Press for Truth which just happens to be the topic of the thread then this was inadvertently explained. You just have to put the pieces together.
    Bin laden himself is on video meeting with some of the hijackers.
    He could be involved. He was also an asset for the CIA back when we fought Russia. Could he still be an asset now? Can't see why not...
    And, he's admitted it loud and clear on video.  Hell, a great deal of the muslim world believes he did it.  Even the one's that hate us believe he had the plot carried out.  They celebrate him for it.  AL Jazeera (not exactly FOX news!)  obtained many of these videos from AL Qaida directly. 
    Yet, the internet sooper-dooper slueths crank out another movie.   Many who have watched the horribly researched, poor science, bad journalistic videos of "how the towers were blown up" and how " a missle hit the Pentagon"  have grown suspicious of some folks critical thinking.
    The movie is more about the government's conflict of interests and the Commission's major conflicts of interest among other things. Commission did a lousy job. The movie proves it. There is MUCH more to 9/11 than what crashed, what left debree, how things fell...ect. 
    There will be no investigation good enough to satisfy you folks unless Bush is framed to look guilty of complicity in the acts.
    Complete BS. For you any investigation is good enough for you....even by politicians who sided and had connections with Bush before the investigation.
    We see this in the god awful excuses for investigation, such as Loose Change, you people post here.
    This thread is about 9/11 Press for Truth. Much different.
    Acting like your videos have caught the government red handed in blowing up the WTC and shooting a missle at the Pentagon.
    There is more to the 9/11 movement than Loose Change. Since then some more evidence has come out and some documentaries that are better than Loose Change in many aspects.
    And, it doesn't even phase you people when the lies are pointed out with scientific articles, scientific evidence, first hand testimony, photographic evidence, etc.
    We have all that on our side too.
    You people are crazier than a crap house mouse, or have an agenda to meet and you don't to care what propaganda you use to get there.
    You ct'ers are the sheeple in this.  You follow your Jones, Avery, Moore around with a cult like zealotry.   It doesn't matter,  the mountain of hard evidence against their charges.  Join the real world.
    Don't even say Moore. The OP said Moore, not me or most other movement member even mention him or like him. Many aren't liberal, except on the war.



    Nice job not even watching the movie. Why do you even post? There is a topic to this thread and you completely ignore it.

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  • DraenorDraenor Member UncommonPosts: 7,918


    Originally posted by AlexAmore

    Originally posted by Draenor

    Didn't watch it...don't need to.
    If that origional poster is likening it to fahrenheit 911, well that's reason enough for me to pass.

    Pffft. If you read my post I said it wasn't like fahrenheit at all. It's not a right vs left movie. I've seen both movies.

    You all have to understand that just because someone is conservative/Republican doesn't make them God where they can't do anything bad. This film doesn't attack conservative/Republican beliefs at all. Same goes for Liberals. Clinton did some pretty horrible things. If some films came out showing all of Clintons horrible acts then I would come right on and post it for all to see.

    How did you disern that as my meaning from my post?  Evel Kenievel couldn't have made that leap........

    I'm not a republican.

    btw, you conspiracy theory people really need to stop...maybe the government is witholding sensative information because they have a reason to do so?  Not everything that Bush does is done with malicious intent, no matter how much you like to think that it is.  I am far from being a Bush fanboy, but you people who challenge every single god damn thing that the man does; you are sad.  Anything to get a republican out of office right?  No matter how petty, no matter how insignificant, you NEED to challenge Bush, because if you don't, then the American people won't hate the man and you won't get your diefied democrats into office.

    Once again, I'm not a republican, you people are just disgusting.

    Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.

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