You know, even the "wise men" behind SWG, won't answer that one without being cryptic.
"The man" came up with the idea.
"The man" is many people.
But if you ask me? "The Man" is Nancy McIntyre, Helios, Smedley and Tora Tora Torres. None of wich have any imagination or original ideas, or even a clue to as what made the old SWG so great that despite being broken, it kept almost double the subscriptions over their "not so broken NGE".
Most SWGologists are in agreement that Jeff Freeman, the lead designer of Jump to Lightspeed was the one in charge of the design of SWG's NGE.
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"...when it comes to pimping EVE I have little restraints." --Hellmar, CEO of CCP.
"It's like they took a gun, put it to their nugget sack and pulled the trigger over and over again, each time telling us how great it was that they were shooting themselves in the balls." --Exar_Kun on SWG's NGE
Okay, after careful consideration, I am placing my bets on the three most belligerant defenders of the NGE, the three who never ever are concilliatory, who never are willing to offer compromise:
Originally posted by wolfmann You know, even the "wise men" behind SWG, won't answer that one without being cryptic. "The man" came up with the idea. "The man" is many people.
But if you ask me? "The Man" is Nancy McIntyre, Helios, Smedley and Tora Tora Torres. None of wich have any imagination or original ideas, or even a clue to as what made the old SWG so great that despite being broken, it kept almost double the subscriptions over their "not so broken NGE".
Yeah this one has been doged more time then a ugly girl at a wedding reception.
I think it was Helios, making a promise, LEC's Julio agreeing and the rest is history, no pun intended -- really history though.
I still think in the end this was a good experience for the gaming world to see though, sooner or later someone was going to ruin a game this bad or like this. Sure it sucks, but look at what we got to see!
To bad you cannot surround the SOE building, declare a coup, take it over and then let someone else be in charge period while the president is away on a golf outing or somthing.
lol...
______________________________ I usually picture the Career builder commercial with the room full of monkeys and upside down sales chart when thinking about the SOE/SWG decision making process..... SOE's John Blakely and Todd Fiala issued a warning: "Don't make our mistakes." Ref NGE Winner of the worst MMOS goes to.... the NGE and SWG..!!! http://www.mmorpg.com/showFeature.cfm?loadFeature=1034&bhcp=1
Originally posted by iskareot Originally posted by wolfmann You know, even the "wise men" behind SWG, won't answer that one without being cryptic. "The man" came up with the idea. "The man" is many people.
But if you ask me? "The Man" is Nancy McIntyre, Helios, Smedley and Tora Tora Torres. None of wich have any imagination or original ideas, or even a clue to as what made the old SWG so great that despite being broken, it kept almost double the subscriptions over their "not so broken NGE".
Yeah this one has been doged more time then a ugly girl at a wedding reception.
I think it was Helios, making a promise, LEC's Julio agreeing and the rest is history, no pun intended -- really history though.
I still think in the end this was a good experience for the gaming world to see though, sooner or later someone was going to ruin a game this bad or like this. Sure it sucks, but look at what we got to see!
To bad you cannot surround the SOE building, declare a coup, take it over and then let someone else be in charge period while the president is away on a golf outing or somthing.
When I think of the creators of the NGE, what comes into my mind is a bunch of WWI British Generals sipping port and sherry 20 miles from the front while ordering honest soldiers to go crawling into range of a Gatling gun in the middle of No-Man's-Land for the glory of the British Empire.
Alternatively the father of the NGE could be an incredibly funny comedian since it's a big fooking joke, but unhappily nothing is that funny.
Unfortunately I'm sure it was fathered by a bunch of money-men who realised they could keep the title running while keeping costs as ridiculously low as possible and wringing as much moisture as they can out of the SWG sponge before it runs completely dry.
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
Originally posted by SODAofBRIA "Tora tora torres" I lol'ed at that one. Attacks like that don't show up on the target audiences radar.
Hahahaha, I love it too! I am gonna use that one everytime now.
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
As I understand Freemans old blog, he was the man tasked in selling the NGE to the rest of the team.
Also, he was lead designer or whatever and it was his task to see it written and implemented, and in time for release of Revenge of the Sith, right? (Hmmm who believes the gaming industry needs a new business model? Is on time delivery or something like that a jargonesque phrase?)
He had another comment that indicated he had to tell "the man" many times a day that eveything was cool and going well. A higher up, office/producer/business type needs their ego stroked on a continuous basis, whereas the coder type person is just in there making it work, so I don't believe it fits the motivations of a designer level person to have been the BIG DADDY.
Originally posted by Athela Wolfmann wrote: As I understand Freemans old blog, he was the man tasked in selling the NGE to the rest of the team. Also, he was lead designer or whatever and it was his task to see it written and implemented, and in time for release of Revenge of the Sith, right? (Hmmm who believes the gaming industry needs a new business model? Is on time delivery or something like that a jargonesque phrase?) He had another comment that indicated he had to tell "the man" many times a day that eveything was cool and going well. A higher up, office/producer/business type needs their ego stroked on a continuous basis, whereas the coder type person is just in there making it work, so I don't believe it fits the motivations of a designer level person to have been the BIG DADDY.
In making a game you can only have 2 of the following...
On Time High Quality Low Cost
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Twas a Virgin birth...
And wisemen brought presents from distant lands.
Amen.
Love, Sodapop
SOE carried it. SOE gave birth. But there was no father.
And I guess everyone knows how the story ends...
You know, even the "wise men" behind SWG, won't answer that one without being cryptic.
"The man" came up with the idea.
"The man" is many people.
But if you ask me? "The Man" is Nancy McIntyre, Helios, Smedley and Tora Tora Torres. None of wich have any imagination or original ideas, or even a clue to as what made the old SWG so great that despite being broken, it kept almost double the subscriptions over their "not so broken NGE".
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"Tora tora torres"
I lol'ed at that one. Attacks like that don't show up on the target audiences radar.
Love, Sodapop
__________________________
"Its sad when people use religion to feel superior, its even worse to see people using a video game to do it."
--Arcken
"...when it comes to pimping EVE I have little restraints."
--Hellmar, CEO of CCP.
"It's like they took a gun, put it to their nugget sack and pulled the trigger over and over again, each time telling us how great it was that they were shooting themselves in the balls."
--Exar_Kun on SWG's NGE
Okay, after careful consideration, I am placing my bets on the three most belligerant defenders of the NGE, the three who never ever are concilliatory, who never are willing to offer compromise:
Rogue_5
Julio Torres
Chris Cao
General consensus is Jeff Freeman.
Who has subsequently been removed from SW:G and is one of the head honchos for DC Online.
Yeah this one has been doged more time then a ugly girl at a wedding reception.
I think it was Helios, making a promise, LEC's Julio agreeing and the rest is history, no pun intended -- really history though.
I still think in the end this was a good experience for the gaming world to see though, sooner or later someone was going to ruin a game this bad or like this. Sure it sucks, but look at what we got to see!
To bad you cannot surround the SOE building, declare a coup, take it over and then let someone else be in charge period while the president is away on a golf outing or somthing.
lol...
______________________________
I usually picture the Career builder commercial with the room full of monkeys and upside down sales chart when thinking about the SOE/SWG decision making process.....
SOE's John Blakely and Todd Fiala issued a warning: "Don't make our mistakes." Ref NGE
Winner of the worst MMOS goes to.... the NGE and SWG..!!! http://www.mmorpg.com/showFeature.cfm?loadFeature=1034&bhcp=1
Yeah this one has been doged more time then a ugly girl at a wedding reception.
I think it was Helios, making a promise, LEC's Julio agreeing and the rest is history, no pun intended -- really history though.
I still think in the end this was a good experience for the gaming world to see though, sooner or later someone was going to ruin a game this bad or like this. Sure it sucks, but look at what we got to see!
To bad you cannot surround the SOE building, declare a coup, take it over and then let someone else be in charge period while the president is away on a golf outing or somthing.
lol...
The coup de etat is going on. Quack Quack
When I think of the creators of the NGE, what comes into my mind is a bunch of WWI British Generals sipping port and sherry 20 miles from the front while ordering honest soldiers to go crawling into range of a Gatling gun in the middle of No-Man's-Land for the glory of the British Empire.
Alternatively the father of the NGE could be an incredibly funny comedian since it's a big fooking joke, but unhappily nothing is that funny.
Unfortunately I'm sure it was fathered by a bunch of money-men who realised they could keep the title running while keeping costs as ridiculously low as possible and wringing as much moisture as they can out of the SWG sponge before it runs completely dry.
Double post
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
Hahahaha, I love it too! I am gonna use that one everytime now.
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
As I understand Freemans old blog, he was the man tasked in selling the NGE to the rest of the team.
No wonder they lost many developers before the NGE
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As I understand Freemans old blog, he was the man tasked in selling the NGE to the rest of the team.
Also, he was lead designer or whatever and it was his task to see it written and implemented, and in time for release of Revenge of the Sith, right? (Hmmm who believes the gaming industry needs a new business model? Is on time delivery or something like that a jargonesque phrase?)
He had another comment that indicated he had to tell "the man" many times a day that eveything was cool and going well. A higher up, office/producer/business type needs their ego stroked on a continuous basis, whereas the coder type person is just in there making it work, so I don't believe it fits the motivations of a designer level person to have been the BIG DADDY.
Ha ha! That goes hand in hand with the theory that Anakin was actually created by Darth Plageus.
NGE is a spawn of the Sith!
"All who gain power are afraid to lose it."
In making a game you can only have 2 of the following...
On Time
High Quality
Low Cost
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Eve: Cardoh Dycen
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