This game comes down to, shoveling out the cash for skilling up your skills. No one can argue it but most of the fan bots do. If you’re a gamer who doesn’t mind being always at the bottom this game is for you. There is nothing a vet can say or do (other then giving his account to you) that will ever allow you to catch up to the skills of a player whom has an account older then you. Sure the arguments will come, " the game is not based only on skill" ahh but if it wasn't why not give your account away and just transfer all your belongings to an alt then? who are you fooling? those to blind to see beyond your bs?
Don't take me wrong, EVE is a good concept as far as many things are concerned, but it never has, nor will it ever be, new player friendly. Nor will it ever allow any new players to compete with the vets when it comes down to the nail. yada yada yada, yeah we know you will argue it's players skills (RL and not in game) that can make a difference, but the fact remains that this game is based on skills not levels, you learn these skills to obtain bigger and better things. To enhance your abilities to play the game. With a game based on this concept and adding the idea of time paid = skills gained there will NEVER EVER be anything balanced taking vet players to new players, no matter the time span involved.
Sure in time they will gain these skills, but the same vets will just gain more beyond the new player. This time paid vs. skills gained was a horrible idea in the standpoint of adding new players, fine for those who started in the beginning; it is an elites game that will always cater to the veterans. Which is completely fine by me, but don't go all over different forums bashing those that see the facts for what they are.
Time paid = skills gained. This game offers nothing to a new player only to the vets.
Flame away fan bots, but the facts are facts and you can't argue the truth. I make my comments because of you; you flame those that don't agree with your "kiss the butt of CCP" to show your true dedication.
Have fun in your game no one is stopping you. But don't tell all of us it's all sunshine and lollypops were this game caters to only the elites of the game.
"The monster created isn't by the company that makes the game, it's by the fans that make it something it never was"
Its certainly true that a new character can never catch up to the vets in terms of total skills. Its also true that you dont just compare skill points to see who wins. A new player can specialize and be just as good with a certain ship as any veteran. The veterans just have the advantage of versatility, which the new players gain as time goes on. You cant expect to be good at everything right away, but no matter how long a veteran plays their versatility doesnt make them better at specific tasks. If you start off from scratch you can learn to fly an interceptor as well as anyone else out there, no matter how many dozens of millions of skill points they have. Yes, they can also fly battleships, or recon cruisers, or anything else, and by the time you are able to do all the things they could do when you created your charater they will be able to do a whole slew of new things, but that only adds to their options, not their ability. Your interceptor is still every bit as good as theirs.
If you want to get into a measuring contest, and compare skill points to see who is "better" you'll never match a veteran player, but you're also missing the point.
To all those that are struggling with the few bugs :
I'm in the game since december 2001's beta. And am still in it.
I don't give a shit whether there are bugs. Eve Online is a game that has constant improvements, not because things are broken, but to keep YOUR game interesting for YOU. That means new content, and yes offcourse some parts of that new stuff have a few bugs. So what ..
I'll be playing Eve-Online for the next 5 years as well.
WoW stations that avatars can explore! ...that lackage was why I left.
Explorable planets even on a minimum scale and stations will be great. Avatars would be awesome!
What would truly make EVE an awesome game is the players ship are avatar roamable too.
Earth and Beyond might of been small compare to EVE but it had avatar and room size explorable space station.
I played EVE for over a year and the reasons I left which i stated also back then was due to mainly lacking of avatar, explorable planet, explorable sspace stations, and the skills systems needs revamping...skills based on picking a path then waiting out the time in REAL time while off line and still getting the skills = suckage for players who are commited to playing 24/7.
Like SWG missing the "Stars" part of it, EVE is missing the "Avatars" part of it.
I'd come back if "You" folks add them features above.
Originally posted by Fuzdom WoW stations that avatars can explore! ...that lackage was why I left. Explorable planets even on a minimum scale and stations will be great. Avatars would be awesome! What would truly make EVE an awesome game is the players ship are avatar roamable too. Earth and Beyond might of been small compare to EVE but it had avatar and room size explorable space station. I played EVE for over a year and the reasons I left which i stated also back then was due to mainly lacking of avatar, explorable planet, explorable sspace stations, and the skills systems needs revamping...skills based on picking a path then waiting out the time in REAL time while off line and still getting the skills = suckage for players who are commited to playing 24/7. Like SWG missing the "Stars" part of it, EVE is missing the "Avatars" part of it. I'd come back if "You" folks add them features above.
They first started hinting at this at last years fanfest...when one player lamented the fact that you could not orbit planets or use them tactically in combat, they mentioned that would be possible soon,,,,then the whole avatar space station thing came up and they said it was on their scope. I'm glad to see they weren't shinning us on.
Originally posted by Fuzdom WoW stations that avatars can explore! ...that lackage was why I left. Explorable planets even on a minimum scale and stations will be great. Avatars would be awesome! What would truly make EVE an awesome game is the players ship are avatar roamable too. Earth and Beyond might of been small compare to EVE but it had avatar and room size explorable space station. I played EVE for over a year and the reasons I left which i stated also back then was due to mainly lacking of avatar, explorable planet, explorable sspace stations, and the skills systems needs revamping...skills based on picking a path then waiting out the time in REAL time while off line and still getting the skills = suckage for players who are commited to playing 24/7. Edit- cry more noob :P the 23/7 no-lifers DO get an advantage, not in skills but in ISK. you know, the stuff you have to have to buy top end modules to make those skills really shine.
Like SWG missing the "Stars" part of it, EVE is missing the "Avatars" part of it. I'd come back if "You" folks add them features above.
Why do people want avatars so bad? It would only remove from the immersion. Stations in Eve arn't tiny little outposts, they are city sized masses filled with anything from a few hundred thousand to several million people. If its implemented you can bet you'll only get a small explorable area, which will be essentially empty completely destroying the immersion factor(unlike hanging around in a cavernous hanger that dwarfs even the largest of Eves ships). shops? nope I can already access the whole market from my ship. Manufacturing/research? nope I can already do that from my ship. Player trades? nope..(see where i'm going with this).
You, as a pod pilot, are an elite cast in the Eve world you are above the mundanities of mere civilians. Your crew do the fetching and carrying, and anything too big for them is carried by drones and other mechanical devices. The most you'll stretch to is a trip to the bar, not worth taking the devs off of proper content.
Ohh I forgot, the sad little geeks can't make their female characters dance in their underwear (before developing the inevitable nude mod, cause pixellated tits is pretty much what this comes down to).
Although now that I think about it, if they offered the possibility of executing you agent.......that might just make it worthwhile.
NO life eh?, What do a newb like you know about life?
I'll tell you what life is.
Life is, living it your way, the way you want to live it.
Whether playing mmo's 24/7 or going out there getting drunk, picking up chics and messing with other peoples lives or not.
Life is living it your way. I guess I can go out there in the world and steal someones chic from them at your local dating scenes but no I'd rather play mmo's 24/7.
Btw I'm married and already have someone that requires me to stay home.
Maybe you single folks need to go out and get "Your" so call "Life".
As for me I'm fine and dandy living life playing mmo's 24/7.
Yes EVE's skill system SUCKS, because no lifers like you can set the path of the skills you want and go offline.
Originally posted by Fuzdom NO life eh?, What do a newb like you know about life? I'll tell you what life is. Life is, living it your way, the way you want to live it. Whether playing mmo's 24/7 or going out there getting drunk, picking up chics and messing with other peoples lives or not. Life is living it your way. I guess I can go out there in the world and steal someones chic from them at your local dating scenes but no I'd rather play mmo's 24/7. Btw I'm married and already have someone that requires me to stay home. Maybe you single folks need to go out and get "Your" so call "Life". As for me I'm fine and dandy living life playing mmo's 24/7. Yes EVE's skill system SUCKS, because no lifers like you can set the path of the skills you want and go offline. You suck!
Was there a point to this babbling at all? If so I couldn't see it.
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most of this - like all past interviews
pie in the sky
This game comes down to, shoveling out the cash for skilling up your skills. No one can argue it but most of the fan bots do. If you’re a gamer who doesn’t mind being always at the bottom this game is for you. There is nothing a vet can say or do (other then giving his account to you) that will ever allow you to catch up to the skills of a player whom has an account older then you. Sure the arguments will come, " the game is not based only on skill" ahh but if it wasn't why not give your account away and just transfer all your belongings to an alt then? who are you fooling? those to blind to see beyond your bs?
Don't take me wrong, EVE is a good concept as far as many things are concerned, but it never has, nor will it ever be, new player friendly. Nor will it ever allow any new players to compete with the vets when it comes down to the nail. yada yada yada, yeah we know you will argue it's players skills (RL and not in game) that can make a difference, but the fact remains that this game is based on skills not levels, you learn these skills to obtain bigger and better things. To enhance your abilities to play the game. With a game based on this concept and adding the idea of time paid = skills gained there will NEVER EVER be anything balanced taking vet players to new players, no matter the time span involved.
Sure in time they will gain these skills, but the same vets will just gain more beyond the new player. This time paid vs. skills gained was a horrible idea in the standpoint of adding new players, fine for those who started in the beginning; it is an elites game that will always cater to the veterans. Which is completely fine by me, but don't go all over different forums bashing those that see the facts for what they are.
Time paid = skills gained. This game offers nothing to a new player only to the vets.
Flame away fan bots, but the facts are facts and you can't argue the truth. I make my comments because of you; you flame those that don't agree with your "kiss the butt of CCP" to show your true dedication.
Have fun in your game no one is stopping you. But don't tell all of us it's all sunshine and lollypops were this game caters to only the elites of the game."The monster created isn't by the company that makes the game, it's by the fans that make it something it never was"
If you want to get into a measuring contest, and compare skill points to see who is "better" you'll never match a veteran player, but you're also missing the point.
I'm in the game since december 2001's beta.
And am still in it.
I don't give a shit whether there are bugs.
Eve Online is a game that has constant improvements, not because things are broken, but to keep YOUR game interesting for YOU. That means new content, and yes offcourse some parts of that new stuff have a few bugs.
So what ..
I'll be playing Eve-Online for the next 5 years as well.
nuff said
WoW stations that avatars can explore! ...that lackage was why I left.
Explorable planets even on a minimum scale and stations will be great. Avatars would be awesome!
What would truly make EVE an awesome game is the players ship are avatar roamable too.
Earth and Beyond might of been small compare to EVE but it had avatar and room size explorable space station.
I played EVE for over a year and the reasons I left which i stated also back then was due to mainly lacking of avatar, explorable planet, explorable sspace stations, and the skills systems needs revamping...skills based on picking a path then waiting out the time in REAL time while off line and still getting the skills = suckage for players who are commited to playing 24/7.
Like SWG missing the "Stars" part of it, EVE is missing the "Avatars" part of it.
I'd come back if "You" folks add them features above.
Fuzdom
You, as a pod pilot, are an elite cast in the Eve world you are above the mundanities of mere civilians. Your crew do the fetching and carrying, and anything too big for them is carried by drones and other mechanical devices. The most you'll stretch to is a trip to the bar, not worth taking the devs off of proper content.
Ohh I forgot, the sad little geeks can't make their female characters dance in their underwear (before developing the inevitable nude mod, cause pixellated tits is pretty much what this comes down to).
Although now that I think about it, if they offered the possibility of executing you agent.......that might just make it worthwhile.
NO life eh?, What do a newb like you know about life?
I'll tell you what life is.
Life is, living it your way, the way you want to live it.
Whether playing mmo's 24/7 or going out there getting drunk, picking up chics and messing with other peoples lives or not.
Life is living it your way. I guess I can go out there in the world and steal someones chic from them at your local dating scenes but no I'd rather play mmo's 24/7.
Btw I'm married and already have someone that requires me to stay home.
Maybe you single folks need to go out and get "Your" so call "Life".
As for me I'm fine and dandy living life playing mmo's 24/7.
Yes EVE's skill system SUCKS, because no lifers like you can set the path of the skills you want and go offline.
You suck!
Fuzdom