What makes this game better than the rest?

Stereoviewer

Well, tell me! I´m curious...

ramadin

Um its not.  Dont waste your money.

 

 

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Apocscott911

I would have to say that the reason this game has the population it has is probably because of two reasons. 1. Its Final Fantasy! enough said. 2. The hype was big due to the nature of an online Final Fantasy plus the idea of PS2 players and PC players together on servers is radical and this in my mind isnt the last we will see of it.

Plus even if we do start losing the good player they can just add new areas where only they can fight.  Dynamis, does the name hit a memory nerve?  Plus the upcoming release of PS2 in NA.  Yeah the economy will go down the drain but i think that a whole bunch more of people playing FFXIO will be good for business and make Playonline expand the game even more due to the popularity.

iduno!

ChronicRick

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Originally posted by ramadin

Um its not.  Dont waste your money. Now if you will excuse me I must go suck cock.
 
 

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Honestly Ramadin...we don't want to hear about it.

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Samusic

Hear about what? He has nothing to say! Really, he does this at the IGN boards and everybody there tells him to shutup and go away as well. Shame, because if he were to open up his mouth to actually say something worthwhile, I'm not sure if anybody would listen now.

Bondelas

 

Yeah...I have only been here for a day, and everyting he has said as been mindless dribble from crack of his ass.

Anyway...What everyone else said.  I would probably also add the fact that Playonline just offers more than anything else right now. 

Misti

I definately dont think FFXI is better then the rest but it does have a few nice elements that are enjoyable.  The skill chains and magic bursts make the combat a bit more involved then most mmorpgs and was one element I really enjoyed.

Overall though I would say Lineage 2 is a far better choice if your looking for a new mmorpg.  It will be out soon and if you preorder you can begin playing in the North American beta right away.  City of Heros is another interesting one coming out soon.

ramadin

Ok, I have posted why I dont like this game a few times on the boards.  Unable to find it at the moment so I will cut and paste one that is basically what I think about this game.  44% of the people on the player review board gave this a 5 or less out of 10 so dont act like its just me.

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I gave it a 4.

This is probably the most unfriendly MMORPG I have ever played. Even starting at the initial installation which is ridiculous. 6gigs of data on 5 CDs, be prepared for nearly an hour just to install the damn thing. Once installed you need to go through this tediously confusing sign-in procedure where you enter code after code after code until finally creating a content ID and managing to get into the game. So now you are ready to play right? Wrong. Be prepared for an initial download patch of at least 2 hours even on a broadband connection. So all in all you are talking 3-4 hours just to get the game set up to play.

The character creation is very basic. You have very limited options in customizing your character and your abilities are fixed so no adjustments there. Then you enter this odd handle/character name phase which I still don't really understand.

So now you are in the game. First challenge, deal with the insanely primative GUI which is the absolute worst UI I have ever seen in a PC game. Even the Final Fantasy console games have a better UI than this thing. Keyboard mapping is limited, mouse...forget it. Might as well get a PS2 controller which begs the question, why did they even release this for the PC? You manage to figure out how to move and do basic functions by someone digging through menus and sub-menus as much as 6 tiers deep do even simple actions.

The graphics are sub-par. If you are used to playing PS2 games, and very little PC gaming then you will find the graphics pretty good but on a PC they are extremely lacking. In order to get any decent quality out of them you have to jack up the resolution on your PC so high that your framerate starts taking major hits. PC animations are nice as well as overall design. But you are stuck with such limited creation options that everyone looks the same. Armor customizations do not exist so now you REALLY look the same. There is nothing unique about your character.

Now we move to experience gathering which is so incredibly slow and boring it makes everquest look like a NASCAR race. Mindlessly slaughter NPC after NPC all looking identical to one another. Your in combat options are very limited. Get in over your head on a monster and just wait to die, there is almost no way to escape unless you pick up the thief class. The level grind starts slow and continues to get slower and slower until you reach the point where its almost as if you are standing still. The oddest part of this all is this is probably the ONLY multiplayer game I have ever played where there is absoluely zero benefit to a group. You get less exp then solo but the oddballs at Square decided to force you to group to kill the mobs. So either way you are screwed here.

Now grouping, welcome to a Japanese game. Good luck finding a group that not only wants you but also speaks English. And although I'm sure there are many Japanese players that are fine people, on the whole I found many MANY of them to be elitest and unwanting of "foreigners" in their groups. Why square did not release NA servers is a mystery to me. Add the fact that you need a perfect group to get anything significant done so unless you are playing with a large group of regular people that can invest the unreal amount of time to play this game, you are at a loss here.

It really does seem that Square is actually discouraging all but the most die hard Final Fantasy players to play this game.

If you are a die hard fan of the genre or an everquest player looking for the same game but more updated, you may like this game. But any avid gamer, move along. There are much better offerings out there and on the horizon.

I was very disappointed in this game considering the quality of Square's FF console games. PC version was, as another person said, an afterthought. This game was meant to be played by PS2 players. And on a PS2 this is probably a decent game, but on a PC its very far behind its competition beating out only everquest and only because EQ is nearly 10 years old with outdated graphics.

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But then you should all know this if you have played it. 

 

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ChronicRick

I plan to end this once and for all! Ask yourself this: If an MMORPG ISN'T the second coming of Jesus H. Christ, is it worth playing? The answer is yes. This is not the greatest mmorpg of all time. But it is certainly groundbreaking. LISTEN TO ME YOU STUPID ELEMENTARY SCHOOLERS; "This game didn't make my eyes bleed and my limbs numb from sheer kool-ness" Does NOT Equal; "Do Not Play This Game because it was certainly good but not so FUCKING addictive as to cause cancer due to sheer kool-ness." Why must you all be so injudicious? Don't know what that means? Then finish elementary school!!!   (not a jab at anyone but Ramadin and stupid elementary schoolers who don't know pronunciation) To be fair and put some reason behind why maybe some of you have hated this: This title was never meant to be on the computer and WAS just an afterthought to rake in more sales. It's only natural that controls and certain game issues would hamper gameplay.

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ramadin

http://vnboards.ign.com/MMORPG_Player_Reviews/b22600/59743524/?50

I guess thats why there are so many bad ratings...

 

"It's only natural that controls and certain game issues would hamper gameplay."  Natural for FFXI maybe, not other MMORPGS.

 

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Stereoviewer

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Originally posted by Misti

I definately dont think FFXI is better then the rest but it does have a few nice elements that are enjoyable.  The skill chains and magic bursts make the combat a bit more involved then most mmorpgs and was one element I really enjoyed.
Overall though I would say Lineage 2 is a far better choice if your looking for a new mmorpg.  It will be out soon and if you preorder you can begin playing in the North American beta right away.  City of Heros is another interesting one coming out soon.

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What makes Linage 2 better? It buggs me that there are no real forests on the screenshots I ´ve seen from Lineage 2. The PvP-system seems cool though, but I heard PvP is coming to FFXI too.

k11keeper

First of all ramadin you are a ass licking donky F$kker and I wish you would just go away.

Now about the game I like this game for the gameplay it is by far the best, also some plusses are the Auction house I think this will be something people will be seeing in all MMO's pretty soon. The Skillchains are cool too do more damage and add more to the game. The exp chains are cool too more XP and your killing things faster with the SC and Magic birsts.

I only have one reserve about the game if you like to solo a lot then it is not for you. Another thing that really doesn't matter to me but was cool in DAoC is the dye thing with your armor that was really cool being able to customize the colors of your armor.

ramadin

Hmm I dont see why we have to resort to name calling.  All I did was offer my opinion which is what these boards are for.  So... I dont know, maybe grow up.  Dont be pissed at me because you play a crappy game.

 

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Samusic

Ramadin, I really have to say that I truly feel sorry for you. You hate this game yet you're always on the VN boards or here or someplace else talking about how much you hate it. I'm sorry you don't have anything else better going for you in life that you're still around so very long after you left the game.

ramadin

I could say the same for you.  And if FFXI is so good than maybe people should go play it rather than posting here if its such a problem for you.

 

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Misti

K11keepr mentioned something else I liked about this game too.  The Auction house was a really neat system I would like to see in more mmorpgs.

As for the trees in Lineage 2 im not sure what you mean.  Are the trees spaced too far apart?  I dunno but I think if you give it a try it has a much more beautiful landscape then FFXI by far.

You asked what was better about Lineage 2 and if you want to post under the lineage 2 forum I will be glad to post my experience with these games there for you. 

 

Glibglib

   I"ll be honest, I'm waiting for the PS2 Version to come out. Don't ask why. I just am. I don't know alot about the game play and the economy of the game, but what I do know is this(I think). I play another game, say Dark Ages (I don't recomend it, if you want to know why email me), and I see spells being cast, and skills being used. I think, what the hell is Beag Suain, or Dragon. I play FF and someone casts Demi on me, I know exactly whats about to happen, and what it can do. I like knowing how I'm going to die. Anyways, FF has good customer service from what I've heard, alot of games out there don't. FF has a story....isin't that enough some of the times? And if it isin't, sorry. Anyways, I'm running out of things to say...and I don't have a pic yet...Later.

Samusic

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Originally posted by ramadin

I could say the same for you.  And if FFXI is so good than maybe people should go play it rather than posting here if its such a problem for you.

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No you couldn't, moron. I don't hate the game and I don't go to message boards all over the place talking about how much I hate a game that I quick long ago. Your last comment is incredibly weak because it assumes that somebody should play a game every waking minute of his life if he likes the game. Anyway, as much as I think you're a moron, I hope life gets more interesting and productive for you and you can finally let this game go.

Asc0tt

You people need to grow up, ramaden or however you spell his name actually gives a decent description of FFXI, or at least hte first 10 hours of it. But that's by far better than what I've seen aside from k11keeper's, who does give some aspects of it as well. Other then that you're all flamers and since we're on message boards instead of out their doing important things we're all wasting our times. (flamers mostly since people who describe the game actually are influencing other ppl's decisions.) In any case, personally I found FFXI to lack anything exciting or new that you wouldn't get from EQ. I mean yes the auction house is great and sure the skillchains are something new and more battle-involved, but the general gameplay is quite boring. Ramaden was right when he said that all you do is kill the same monsters over and over, and that is in fact what you do, the same looking monsters simply get stronger and stronger. One good aspect of the game though is the number of side quests you can do to improve your character, although I wouldn't really recommend playing the game just for that as almost all RPG's already do that like Baldur's Gate. The graphics are quite nice I'll admit, but paying $12 to see the same beautifully-rendered monster die to your spell/weapon gets boring after the 100th one. To sum it up if you like graphics, solo-questing, and don't mind killing monsters up to lvl 75 only to wonder wth you were thinking when you started this game, then by all means buy it. If not then save your money. So let the flaming begin -_-

Stereoviewer

I did post on the Lineage 2 forum too. Look for my name over there. Thanks by the way.

ramadin

Thanks Ascott, some peoples children I guess.  Saying that someone sucks c*ck and licks donkey a$$es should really go back to grade school.  Listen to your mommies and if you dont have something nice to say dont say anything at all.

 

 

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Apocscott911

I agree with Ascott(interesting name by the way, lol) on most of the stuff.  Yes it is true that the mobs u kill are exactly the same looking.  But I wont drop the game until I at least see how the PvsP will work and if I play non stop for say 3 months maybe see Dynamis before i go onto something like the Matrix Online that is supposed to be coming soon.  I would also like to say that quitting after the initial 10-15 levels is kinda moronic even if somepeople are morons and the game ISNT THE BEST OUT THERE.  A game can not be the best. Cuz there is no such thing as a perfect game.  But i think that another expansion and updates could make the game better.  I would like to see more damn jobs i dont know if im the only one.  Peace guys.

iduno!

ramadin

Matrix Online was cancelled unfortunately, the people funding it pulled the funds for it.  Actually a game CAN be the best and still not be perfect.

 

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Apocscott911

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO......lol

iduno!

ChronicRick

Ramadin you are clearly a mature person and I apologize for calling you an elementary schooler. I realize that everyone is entitled to his own opinion and I respect that. You may insult FFXI to your heart's content. And for those of you resorting to crude remarks like donkey fu**er; try to remember that the only way for people to judge you in a forum is by your words. And I feel I have judged Ramadin's character appropriately.

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Tymora

Well, after reading all of these posts, my intent here is to say that obviously we have many Everquest players or former EQ players here that don't like FFXI and I feel like they may not be painting the picture of FFXI the way they mean to.  What I mean is, Everquest and Final Fantasy XI are similar in more ways than any other two MMORPGs.  Yes there is the graphic differences and style differences and so on, but the core gameplay is the same in my opinion.  What I see people complaining about here in regards to FFXI can be taken and applied right back to Everquest.  The developers of FFXI looked at Everquest as a basis for their designs, and it shows.  I do see flaws in the game and it is by no means perfect, as no MMORPGs are, but it's downfalls are what they are, and some people can see through these and have fun playing.  What bothers me is when I read comments about how all the monsters look the same, you have to camp and kill monsters over and over, you must group to get experience, etc.  I seem to remember all of these things when I played EQ.  I loved Everquest, and I am currently really enjoying FFXI, part of the reason is because of the similarity between the two.  I just can't understand how someone can play Everquest and enjoy it, then come on these boards and try to convince others not to bother trying FFXI, when it has alot of the same types of things as Everquest.  Well, whatever the reason, take these comments with a grain of salt, and remember that no matter what anyones says, it will be you and only you that must decide whether a game is fun or not.