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It’s not just the simplification

ebenholtebenholt Member Posts: 312
in SWG Veteran Refuge

I’ve been reading those theories about how MMO games work and the different type of players.

If those “rules” still apply on todays gaming community SOE has overlooked more than trying to attract the WoW/mythical target audience while screwing over the costumers they had.

The new NGE content focus toward the killer (PvP) audience while the content for achievers and socialisers got ripped out or rendered pointless in SOEs attempt to go mainstream/simpler. What is said is that games catered to PvPers/killers drive achievers and socialisers away (the 2 groups that bring in most subscribers) and the fact that killers need other playstyles to feed off

here are some lof the inks:

http://www.psychochild.org/?p=185

http://www.mud.co.uk/richard/hcds.htm

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  • FikusOfAhaziFikusOfAhazi Member Posts: 1,835
    I think they needed or wanted a PVP game for their station pass. They'll get the socializers and acheivers back with Vanguard.

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  • xxthecorexxxxthecorexx Member Posts: 1,078

    Originally posted by FikusOfAhazi
    I think they needed or wanted a PVP game for their station pass. They'll get the socializers and acheivers back with Vanguard.
    o rly ?

    from what i've kept up on there's very little of the socialization NEED in guildwars err.. WoW.. err.. i mean vanguard.

    i'm not bashing, i just don't have alot of hope for it there.

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  • FikusOfAhaziFikusOfAhazi Member Posts: 1,835

    Originally posted by xxthecorexx

    Originally posted by FikusOfAhazi
    I think they needed or wanted a PVP game for their station pass. They'll get the socializers and acheivers back with Vanguard.
    o rly ?

    from what i've kept up on there's very little of the socialization NEED in guildwars err.. WoW.. err.. i mean vanguard.

    i'm not bashing, i just don't have alot of hope for it there.


    me either:/

    See you in the dream..
    The Fires from heaven, now as cold as ice. A rapid ascension tolls a heavy price.

  • bigfootsbigfoots Member Posts: 198

    I've seen quite a number of posts that mention the fact that if you don't like 1 of soloing/grouping/raiding then you shouldn't waste your time with Vanguard.

    I loathe and detest Raiding (that'll be why I left WoW at level 50 something), so I shall be giving Vanguard the old two finger salute.

    Oh yeah, and it's got an SOE association anyway as if that wasn't reason enough for me to avoid it!

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  • FormathorFormathor Member Posts: 53

    Originally posted by FikusOfAhazi
    I think they needed or wanted a PVP game for their station pass. They'll get the socializers and acheivers back with Vanguard.
    They had planetside in the station pass. All pvp a few levels to go up and a fps. No this was an atempt get the claws into a audience that just wasnt there. Bad buisness call bad idea all around really.
  • MX13MX13 Member Posts: 2,489

    Originally posted by bigfoots

    I've seen quite a number of posts that mention the fact that if you don't like 1 of soloing/grouping/raiding then you shouldn't waste your time with Vanguard.
    I loathe and detest Raiding (that'll be why I left WoW at level 50 something), so I shall be giving Vanguard the old two finger salute.
    Oh yeah, and it's got an SOE association anyway as if that wasn't reason enough for me to avoid it!
    Vanguard is a VERY social game... true, you can solo all day long, but name a game you can't. The truth is that in VSoH to advance through tough quest lines, travel through dangerous areas, take on bosses, build Cities, craft major items or even equip yourself with quality items, you need to be social...

    I'll start my own SWG... with Black Jack... and Hookers!!!

    In fact, forget the SWG!!!!

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  • PyscoJuggaloPyscoJuggalo Member UncommonPosts: 1,114


    I don't buy their (the Industry's) demographics.  I want to see the surveys they did and sampling and what not.  They create these poulations achiever, explorer, socializer, and PvP'er and to tell you the truth, I'm all the above.





    Now on to what I don't like about Vangard:  "High End loot will come from crafting 15% of the time."

    A few things I don't like about that statement:

    1- It suggests a loot-centric game.  It suggests your whole drive for playing is the aqusition of loot.  In SWG the whole point of playing was in the interaction between players (am I wrong?).  I'm not really all that interested in playing for a "5W0RD 0F U83RN355."

    2- It suggests lateral advancment through loot.  I just can't stand that concept, your strategy and skill (mental reflexes) should make your ability, not some bit of pixels.

    3- Only 15% of the High End Goodies will be crafted, I'm sorry I just need a real crafter based economy.


    Is this how Vangaurd is gonna be or did I missread / read too deep into something?

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