my machine can run it pretty well on the highest setting. The only thing it still can't do is have environmental shading on (in town anyway). There are just way too many shadows to draw, even for a crossfire system to handle.
Hmmm, starting to feel annoyed here. I can't see how you guys are runin fine and I'm having problems, then again I dont know half of what your talking about (Regarding Rig set-ups) beyond Graphics Cards, Ram and Motherboards. So your probably one-uping me there.
Think maybe its time to replace my 6800GT, and reccomendations? ATi or N-Visdia?
Originally posted by Speedhaak Hmmm, starting to feel annoyed here. I can't see how you guys are runin fine and I'm having problems, then again I dont know half of what your talking about (Regarding Rig set-ups) beyond Graphics Cards, Ram and Motherboards. So your probably one-uping me there. Think maybe its time to replace my 6800GT, and reccomendations? ATi or N-Visdia?
Speed, just out of curiosity, you have a PCI-E set up right? Just asking because the 6800GT was of cours also sold as an AGP option.
Also, obviously unsure on what driver set your using but you might want to check out http://www.nvnews.net , they have an amazing forums with all sorts of driver options for specific games, more then a few people there play EQ2.
Originally posted by shae Originally posted by Speedhaak Hmmm, starting to feel annoyed here. I can't see how you guys are runin fine and I'm having problems, then again I dont know half of what your talking about (Regarding Rig set-ups) beyond Graphics Cards, Ram and Motherboards. So your probably one-uping me there. Think maybe its time to replace my 6800GT, and reccomendations? ATi or N-Visdia?
Speed, just out of curiosity, you have a PCI-E set up right? Just asking because the 6800GT was of cours also sold as an AGP option.
Also, obviously unsure on what driver set your using but you might want to check out http://www.nvnews.net , they have an amazing forums with all sorts of driver options for specific games, more then a few people there play EQ2.
PCI x16 mate, I just ran my own Benchmark using Fraps. the results:
Extreme performance 48-60 FPS
High performance 30-40 FPS
Balanced 18-38 FPS (sometimes higher in less populated ares)
I didn't tweak anything mind you, but its just an annoyance when all I want to do is enjoy the game at a reasonable FPS without glitch and lag.
I've not over-clocked me card, but thinking about it now. Surely with 2gigs of Ram the 6800GT can do more than 20 odd FPS on balanced right, Shae you seem like a chap in the know, any help or suggestions about over clocking or anything would be appreciated. I've benched all the other MMO's I play and I get between 4-70 FPS in all of them, maybe it is the Driver.
I've gone into the cards manual settings and disabled memory hogging apps like Anti-aliasing and Tri linear buffing ext, and put the card to High performance.
Well, I'll check out that link you sent me, thanks.
You'd be surprised actually. Balanced is still very graphic intense. Make sure environmental shadows is completly off. That might help if you have that on.
Originally posted by Speedhaak PCI x16 mate, I just ran my own Benchmark using Fraps. the results: Extreme performance 48-60 FPS High performance 30-40 FPS Balanced 18-38 FPS (sometimes higher in less populated ares) I didn't tweak anything mind you, but its just an annoyance when all I want to do is enjoy the game at a reasonable FPS without glitch and lag. I've not over-clocked me card, but thinking about it now. Surely with 2gigs of Ram the 6800GT can do more than 20 odd FPS on balanced right, Shae you seem like a chap in the know, any help or suggestions about over clocking or anything would be appreciated. I've benched all the other MMO's I play and I get between 4-70 FPS in all of them, maybe it is the Driver. I've gone into the cards manual settings and disabled memory hogging apps like Anti-aliasing and Tri linear buffing ext, and put the card to High performance. Well, I'll check out that link you sent me, thanks.
Hi Speed, overclocking your card is certainly a valid option, not one I recommend lightly but it's certainly plausible. The problem though occurs within the vertex and pixel pipelines on this card, I believe these are set standard on the 6800GT at something like 16 for pixel and 6 vertex, don't quote me verbadim on this though, it's been some time since I've looked up the specs. These pipelines have a bandwidth very simillar to your P4s Front side bus MHZ, they are what bring the information into the GPU for processing and out for displaying. With smaller amounts of pipelines, obviously the less performance you can gain at higher resolutions as larger textures are bigger in quality and most importantly size, they take longer to display and thus you experience graphical slow down. The good news here is that the NV40 GPU on the 6800GT is basically the same NV40 chip that was on the 6800Ultra, about the only true difference between the two cards is the GDDR3 memory modules, the GT had samsun 2.0 ns and the ultra had 1.6 ns. For all intents and purposes, the cards are relative twins. So what this means for you, and other GT users, is that you can easily gain speeds on the core clock speed which is 350mhz on the GT and 500 memory speed as 1000 DDR3, to meet and or exceed Ultra specs, 400/550*1100. What you must always keep in mind is heat displacement of course, the GTs 2.0 modules will heat more readily then the Ultras 1.6s. By overclocking the card your going to cause more heating then the OEM Cooling set up is specced to handle, now this doesn't mean you absolutely must replace the stock cooling, in fact I've read of many people clocking to ultra and higher speeds on the native solution but keep it mind, if your getting graphical fracturing, shredding, biasing or failure to post, this might be why. The NV5 (Link Here) is a good, innexpensive solution to go with if you need some extra cooling punch.
Use RivaTuner to overclock (Link Here) the card itself, I say this because there's two very important options you need to disable, the first being "Internal Clocktest" as without this you will need to hardmod the card to get the clocks to stick and the second is "3D throtling" which pulls the clocks back when it starts to heat up, which obviously defeats the purpose when OC'ing. Again, I caution, if you do this your risking the card health and longevity so keep a careful eye on those temps, if you start getting 70 C to 80 C hits, you know to tune down.
If for some reason you feel the masachistic need and desire to Hard Mod your GT, I've done it and blowed up a card good for proper so think hard before you do this, there's a great semi How-To at extremesystems (Link Here).
While OC'ing, take it up in small increments of Max 25/Min 10, work your way up with your goal of 400/550*1100 in mind and go up from there if you see it's stable, I will tell you right now, DO NOT go higher then 500/600*1200 with stock cooling because IT WILL do damage and if you want to get even higher then that your looking at voltage mod's and it get's a little more tense after that.
Well that's everything I can think of off the top of my head, hope that even a little to get you started. Let me know of course if you have any more questions.
You absolutely NEED to use custom settings. Put it on Extreme Perfermance then start turning things up.
I'm running at 1600x1200 on an AMD 3500+, Nvidia 6800 and 2gigs of ram and it runs smooth as anything and looks beautiful, especially with AA and AF turned on
No, not the highest. Only about 1% of the computers out there today can run at the "highest" settings. EQ2 didn't want current computers to run this game at the highest. They said this from when it went gold. Their earlier game lasted 5 years, so in that state of mind, they wanted this game's graphics to last that long (if not longer). So the highest settings is for computers in the future, maybe 2-3 years down the road.
It's interesting to hear people saying they are running it in max detail with no problems. Well that maybe, the only problem with this terminology is that everyone has a different view of max detail.
I think if you are saying how the game runs on your system then you should state the resolution, the texture detail as well as which effects you have turned on or off, as well as listing your system specs, this way it will give readers of this post a good indication of what to expect whilst playing eq2. As well maybe put the graphics driver version as well could give some insight eg for NVIDIA users would look something like 91.47.
It is clear that many effects can be enabled in the game so having a look at the tweak guide in the earlier post will definetly enlighten you.
I couldn't run eq2 with everything up full at a playable fps. Even now I don't believe there is any hardware around that could. Maybe after the direct x 10 video cards come out there will be a chance. These are my specs:
ASUS A8N SLI Deluxe Mobo AMD Athlon 64 3500 CPU XFX XXX 7800 GTX Video Card 256MB WD Raptor 74GB 10k Hard drive 2 GB Corsair TwinX CL3 DDR 400 Dual Channel DDR RAM Enermax Noisetaker 470 Watt Power Supply (It really is very quiet)
Originally posted by daniel240279 It's interesting to hear people saying they are running it in max detail with no problems. Well that maybe, the only problem with this terminology is that everyone has a different view of max detail.
I think if you are saying how the game runs on your system then you should state the resolution, the texture detail as well as which effects you have turned on or off, as well as listing your system specs, this way it will give readers of this post a good indication of what to expect whilst playing eq2. As well maybe put the graphics driver version as well could give some insight eg for NVIDIA users would look something like 91.47.
It is clear that many effects can be enabled in the game so having a look at the tweak guide in the earlier post will definetly enlighten you.
I couldn't run eq2 with everything up full at a playable fps. Even now I don't believe there is any hardware around that could. Maybe after the direct x 10 video cards come out there will be a chance. These are my specs:
ASUS A8N SLI Deluxe Mobo AMD Athlon 64 3500 CPU XFX XXX 7800 GTX Video Card 256MB WD Raptor 74GB 10k Hard drive 2 GB Corsair TwinX CL3 DDR 400 Dual Channel DDR RAM Enermax Noisetaker 470 Watt Power Supply (It really is very quiet)
Max settings is well the "very high" quality mode, the max default option you can get... as far as I am concerned. I play at 1600x1200 with those "max" settings. I do this except in raids where I turn off spell effects for other players.
If I have quad sli I imagine even with 30 people casting spells I could easily do it specially consdiering my system now runs max.
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My specs:
DFI LanParty UT RDX200 CF-DR CrossFire 10/05 BIOS
AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+ @ 2.6Ghz 237x11
OCZ (4 x 1GB) @ 178mhz T2 (150 divider)
V1 = SAPPHIRE Radeon X1900 CrossFire Edition @ stock
V2 = SAPPHIRE Radeon X1900XT @ stock
WD Raptor 150GB
OCZ PowerStream 520W PSU
Prime Stable 26hrs
Hmmm, starting to feel annoyed here. I can't see how you guys are runin fine and I'm having problems, then again I dont know half of what your talking about (Regarding Rig set-ups) beyond Graphics Cards, Ram and Motherboards. So your probably one-uping me there.
Think maybe its time to replace my 6800GT, and reccomendations? ATi or N-Visdia?
Speed, just out of curiosity, you have a PCI-E set up right? Just asking because the 6800GT was of cours also sold as an AGP option.
Also, obviously unsure on what driver set your using but you might want to check out http://www.nvnews.net , they have an amazing forums with all sorts of driver options for specific games, more then a few people there play EQ2.
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Speed, just out of curiosity, you have a PCI-E set up right? Just asking because the 6800GT was of cours also sold as an AGP option.
Also, obviously unsure on what driver set your using but you might want to check out http://www.nvnews.net , they have an amazing forums with all sorts of driver options for specific games, more then a few people there play EQ2.
PCI x16 mate, I just ran my own Benchmark using Fraps. the results:
Extreme performance 48-60 FPS
High performance 30-40 FPS
Balanced 18-38 FPS (sometimes higher in less populated ares)
I didn't tweak anything mind you, but its just an annoyance when all I want to do is enjoy the game at a reasonable FPS without glitch and lag.
I've not over-clocked me card, but thinking about it now. Surely with 2gigs of Ram the 6800GT can do more than 20 odd FPS on balanced right, Shae you seem like a chap in the know, any help or suggestions about over clocking or anything would be appreciated. I've benched all the other MMO's I play and I get between 4-70 FPS in all of them, maybe it is the Driver.
I've gone into the cards manual settings and disabled memory hogging apps like Anti-aliasing and Tri linear buffing ext, and put the card to High performance.
Well, I'll check out that link you sent me, thanks.
Hi Speed, overclocking your card is certainly a valid option, not one I recommend lightly but it's certainly plausible. The problem though occurs within the vertex and pixel pipelines on this card, I believe these are set standard on the 6800GT at something like 16 for pixel and 6 vertex, don't quote me verbadim on this though, it's been some time since I've looked up the specs. These pipelines have a bandwidth very simillar to your P4s Front side bus MHZ, they are what bring the information into the GPU for processing and out for displaying.
With smaller amounts of pipelines, obviously the less performance you can gain at higher resolutions as larger textures are bigger in quality and most importantly size, they take longer to display and thus you experience graphical slow down. The good news here is that the NV40 GPU on the 6800GT is basically the same NV40 chip that was on the 6800Ultra, about the only true difference between the two cards is the GDDR3 memory modules, the GT had samsun 2.0 ns and the ultra had 1.6 ns. For all intents and purposes, the cards are relative twins.
So what this means for you, and other GT users, is that you can easily gain speeds on the core clock speed which is 350mhz on the GT and 500 memory speed as 1000 DDR3, to meet and or exceed Ultra specs, 400/550*1100. What you must always keep in mind is heat displacement of course, the GTs 2.0 modules will heat more readily then the Ultras 1.6s.
By overclocking the card your going to cause more heating then the OEM Cooling set up is specced to handle, now this doesn't mean you absolutely must replace the stock cooling, in fact I've read of many people clocking to ultra and higher speeds on the native solution but keep it mind, if your getting graphical fracturing, shredding, biasing or failure to post, this might be why. The NV5 (Link Here) is a good, innexpensive solution to go with if you need some extra cooling punch.
Use RivaTuner to overclock (Link Here) the card itself, I say this because there's two very important options you need to disable, the first being "Internal Clocktest" as without this you will need to hardmod the card to get the clocks to stick and the second is "3D throtling" which pulls the clocks back when it starts to heat up, which obviously defeats the purpose when OC'ing. Again, I caution, if you do this your risking the card health and longevity so keep a careful eye on those temps, if you start getting 70 C to 80 C hits, you know to tune down.
If for some reason you feel the masachistic need and desire to Hard Mod your GT, I've done it and blowed up a card good for proper so think hard before you do this, there's a great semi How-To at extremesystems (Link Here).
While OC'ing, take it up in small increments of Max 25/Min 10, work your way up with your goal of 400/550*1100 in mind and go up from there if you see it's stable, I will tell you right now, DO NOT go higher then 500/600*1200 with stock cooling because IT WILL do damage and if you want to get even higher then that your looking at voltage mod's and it get's a little more tense after that.
Well that's everything I can think of off the top of my head, hope that even a little to get you started. Let me know of course if you have any more questions.
Important Information regarding Posting and You
I'm running at 1600x1200 on an AMD 3500+, Nvidia 6800 and 2gigs of ram and it runs smooth as anything and looks beautiful, especially with AA and AF turned on
Do you think i'll be able to play at the Highest Settings?
Core Duo 1.87ghz
2gb DDR2 Ram
Geforce 7900gs 256mb gpu
???
like at 1400x900??
ive never played Everquest, so im curious.
No, not the highest. Only about 1% of the computers out there today can run at the "highest" settings. EQ2 didn't want current computers to run this game at the highest. They said this from when it went gold. Their earlier game lasted 5 years, so in that state of mind, they wanted this game's graphics to last that long (if not longer). So the highest settings is for computers in the future, maybe 2-3 years down the road.
But here is as guide for current video cards.
Core 2 Duo 6600
2gb DDR2 800 Ram
Geforce 7900GT 256
I can run the highest setting at 1650x1080 for about 10 minutes in a low pop area i.e. noob island
for about 10 minutes before it get's pissy.
I normally run at high at it runs just dandy.
I find the biggest visual quality enhancer is maximum textures
It's interesting to hear people saying they are running it in max detail with no problems. Well that maybe, the only problem with this terminology is that everyone has a different view of max detail.
I think if you are saying how the game runs on your system then you should state the resolution, the texture detail as well as which effects you have turned on or off, as well as listing your system specs, this way it will give readers of this post a good indication of what to expect whilst playing eq2. As well maybe put the graphics driver version as well could give some insight eg for NVIDIA users would look something like 91.47.
It is clear that many effects can be enabled in the game so having a look at the tweak guide in the earlier post will definetly enlighten you.
I couldn't run eq2 with everything up full at a playable fps. Even now I don't believe there is any hardware around that could. Maybe after the direct x 10 video cards come out there will be a chance.
These are my specs:
ASUS A8N SLI Deluxe Mobo
AMD Athlon 64 3500 CPU
XFX XXX 7800 GTX Video Card 256MB
WD Raptor 74GB 10k Hard drive
2 GB Corsair TwinX CL3 DDR 400 Dual Channel DDR RAM
Enermax Noisetaker 470 Watt Power Supply (It really is very quiet)
If I have quad sli I imagine even with 30 people casting spells I could easily do it specially consdiering my system now runs max.
http://www.greycouncil.org/
Heres a good guide to tweaking the options to get the most out of your machine.
http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=tech_support&message.id=3265