Originally posted by Kazeemia Yeah I like what I see, too. I've played Daoc and wow, and in my oppinion daoc graphics were more real than wow's. From what I can see I'd compare the graphics to Oblivion.
Graphics matter when your building a next gen game, a game that uses next gen tech. So your dead wrong in this regard J
How is he wrong again? He is comparing this games graphical direction to that of oblivions. This game's graphic engine is next-gen.
I think most ppl look how the graphics is. My most important critera is, do I get a good story told, and then technical aspects and only then graphics. BUT if I am going to chose and if I am supposed to stay longer I would really have a world with inspirations, with places that catch me and character models that feel homey.
In terms of landscape Conan or LOTR just have the superior graphics and design. Looking far is a nice feature, but it kinda lacks the emotional catch.
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Originally posted by crusher143On the other hand my guess is, if they r done with the main things they have to fix / add they will polish these things, remember they still have at least a half year time so I wouldnt say now just cause of a beta video that it will be the same at release. Unless things have changed once again.. release date is in 2 months. Not in 6 to 8. FAQ, Brad, and Sony have all said by Xmas this year. The game sales sites say Jan 2007. Any way you look at it, they've been supposedly tweaking and improve these very issues for 6 to 8 months now. I haven't seen or heard of any big strides of improvement in game play, fps, or anything else.2 to 3 months doesn't leave much room to address these issues. Still have to make sure network code is up to par, servers functioning correctly, quests working right, bugs, bugs, bugs.. etc.It'll be another typical launch.. game half finished and tweaked. Rest of the tweaking and polishing will happen over the next 2 years via patches and and 3 expansions they'll charge 20 bucks a piece for. Then turn around 2 months later and sell all 3 expansions and the core game for a fraction of the price you paid to get all of them seperately.Yup.. I'm pretty negative about this release. I think they've earned that from me though, and so far they haven't done anything to earn back my trust. This is specially the case with Sony.
heh, you obviously haven't been following vanguard for a bit...let me clear something up for yeah.
the release date is set for this winter not winter '06, yes i know it used to be winter '06 but they changed it for obvious reasons.
the release date that the stores have are not accurate and i will be surprised to see vanguard released before the beginning of spring 07'.
there have been multiple posts on the issue and if you look around a bit I'm sure you will find them, there was actually a huge debate about this on the FOH forums witch the Dev's have cleared it up and it will not be released this year.
i have heard of many strides of improvements since beta3 has launched (not really sure what you are talking about there) the frame rate is better, lesser machines are now able to play the game where before they weren't able to....and they have alot more people logging on and actually playing the game, from what i hear ofcource.
I'm not going to touch on the rest of your post because you have a right to your opinion and it is based mainly on speculation, but rest assured the game is not being released in 2 months, not even close.
just thought i would let ya know.
You mixed my post with Datawights one, was confused cause I thought you are talking to me :P I really dont think the game will come out any time soon. More like middle of next year if we are lucky february / march. And you know what ? I dont care I dont want a half finished game then you play it and think wtf is this shit and never will touch it again ....
Sure I would love to have it now but there is no point in it to play a game with many bugs, not polished spell graphics / animations etc etc ... right now I ordered me EQ2 which will hopefully hook me up until release of Vanguard.
Sometimes I really wonder if alot of ppls on these boards are kids who are waiting for x-mas presents and cant wait, grow up find something else to do and dont cry the whole time it wont help. And if u ppls are not idiots you know it wont come out any time soon ...
Originally posted by Phoenixs And what is up with the Vanguard community and Wow. On the forums, ingame and on fansites. Each time someone says something bad about Vanguard, or someone says that something was done good in Wow, he get's the "return to Wow you worthless piece of sh*t!" or "go play Wow you f**king 12 year old retard!" or just "http://www.worldofwarcraft.com". The Vanguard community is hands down the worst community in this aspect. Grow up people. Wow has some very good sides, you might not like it, but others do, without being 12 year old retards.
Having been a member of the Vanguard forums for some time now, I think I can answer your question. A vocal percentage of Vanguard fans are elitist as*holes who feel that playing EQ in the old days makes them a great authority on MMORPGs, since EQ was the only 'real' one. They hate WoW with a passion for various reasons...some justified (shallow gameplay, too many Bnet kiddies), some not (you don't need to grind as much as EQ, no corpse runs. you don't have to regen for five minutes between battles). On top of this, they believe that EQ was the MMO of choice for 'mature' players, and anyone who didn't like it must be an immature child.
They now wish to turn Vanguard into EQ Redux, claiming that 'Brad made the game just for us!' and b*tch at and flame anyone who dares disagree with this ludricrous assertion. Although they're perhaps 15 to 25 of the board posters, they're super-vocal and try to flame any thread that doesn't fall in line with their EQ as*kissing. Frankly,they're a blight on the community and tend to end up ruining a great many good discussions we start on those boards, so I'm hoping the finished product drives them off, because if they're anything like they are on the forums ingame, community is going to suffer.
Originally posted by spirus7 I just d/l the Vanguard video from the forum post "You have GOT to see this tester made video". Well thank god i did.. The game looks fine..and when i say fine i mean fine!Nothing else.. Soooooo my comments on the video are.. You have stolen alot of things from DAOC..The graffics are good but very static..they are not "warm" instead they are ..hmmm.... "cold 3D" . The movement and attacks from the Players and NPC's look not to real but "robotic".If you want to see real movement see some videos from WoW or AOC or WAR..etc The Terrain from the video seems very empty..Huge castles and towns are good but they still look "cold" towards the player.. I give to the video 4/10 and ihmo Vanguard needs ALOT of work..Tho i dont think it will make it as game versus AoC,WoW,WAR and you know why?.... Because these games dont look Robotic and their enviroment ROCKS!It looks real even if it is Comic based or not (AoC) and the movement of the Chars/NPC's is also real as hell.. Cheers!
You know nothing about the game, just its graphics. Have you done any reading? The game has a completely new and fresh combat system that will actually take skill. The game includes features such as diplomacy, many huge and small dungeons alike, flying mounts, player built boats and cities, and I can keep on going.
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Graphics matter when your building a next gen game, a game that uses next gen tech. So your dead wrong in this regard J
How is he wrong again? He is comparing this games graphical direction to that of oblivions. This game's graphic engine is next-gen.
I think most ppl look how the graphics is. My most important critera is, do I get a good story told, and then technical aspects and only then graphics. BUT if I am going to chose and if I am supposed to stay longer I would really have a world with inspirations, with places that catch me and character models that feel homey.
In terms of landscape Conan or LOTR just have the superior graphics and design. Looking far is a nice feature, but it kinda lacks the emotional catch.
People don't ask questions to get answers - they ask questions to show how smart they are. - Dogbert
heh, you obviously haven't been following vanguard for a bit...let me clear something up for yeah.
the release date is set for this winter not winter '06, yes i know it used to be winter '06 but they changed it for obvious reasons.
the release date that the stores have are not accurate and i will be surprised to see vanguard released before the beginning of spring 07'.
there have been multiple posts on the issue and if you look around a bit I'm sure you will find them, there was actually a huge debate about this on the FOH forums witch the Dev's have cleared it up and it will not be released this year.
i have heard of many strides of improvements since beta3 has launched (not really sure what you are talking about there) the frame rate is better, lesser machines are now able to play the game where before they weren't able to....and they have alot more people logging on and actually playing the game, from what i hear ofcource.
I'm not going to touch on the rest of your post because you have a right to your opinion and it is based mainly on speculation, but rest assured the game is not being released in 2 months, not even close.
just thought i would let ya know.
You mixed my post with Datawights one, was confused cause I thought you are talking to me :P I really dont think the game will come out any time soon. More like middle of next year if we are lucky february / march. And you know what ? I dont care I dont want a half finished game then you play it and think wtf is this shit and never will touch it again ....
Sure I would love to have it now but there is no point in it to play a game with many bugs, not polished spell graphics / animations etc etc ... right now I ordered me EQ2 which will hopefully hook me up until release of Vanguard.
Sometimes I really wonder if alot of ppls on these boards are kids who are waiting for x-mas presents and cant wait, grow up find something else to do and dont cry the whole time it wont help. And if u ppls are not idiots you know it wont come out any time soon ...
lol sorry man, i hate when i do that....i really need to not post when i am tired.
They now wish to turn Vanguard into EQ Redux, claiming that 'Brad made the game just for us!' and b*tch at and flame anyone who dares disagree with this ludricrous assertion. Although they're perhaps 15 to 25 of the board posters, they're super-vocal and try to flame any thread that doesn't fall in line with their EQ as*kissing. Frankly,they're a blight on the community and tend to end up ruining a great many good discussions we start on those boards, so I'm hoping the finished product drives them off, because if they're anything like they are on the forums ingame, community is going to suffer.